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The two big questions I have are Why?...and How?

Why do we need a new agency when we already have so many clandestine organizations that we've used the entire alphabet in 3 or 4 letter agencies. Why would the Pentagon unveil this now? What is happening that makes it necessary now verses some other time frame in the past or some time in the future?

How...how are we able to afford this agency when the government is completely broke? How are we able to afford a new agency when the military is being cut back drastically? How do we afford this agency when the nation is abolsutely broke???

What special capabilities do they have in relation to U.S. citizens? Does this unit fit into the new NDAA? Is it being given some special authority to kill where the CIA, DIA and other agencies could not?

Are they allowed to operate on U.S. soil?



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"Several hundred case officers will make up the new spy shop. Drawn from the Defense Intelligence Agency, the officers will be sent to beef up US intelligence teams in areas that are now receiving more attention.

Those include Africa, where al-Qaida is increasingly active, to parts of Asia where the North Korean missile threat and Chinese military expansion are causing increasing US concern."
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There have been other attempts at launching a thread about this subject today but there were no responses. Is it because GLP is an uneducated bunch regarding this new agency? Or...is it just that nobody cares? Was there any news this was coming???
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You dont get it yet.

The Public trust is broke. "America". "Main street". Is broke.

The cabal however that has usurped the "America", and "Main Street", thus "our" Government, is not broke however.

They have in fact further solidified their positions by buying up tangible assets, things of inherit value.

Like those 700 million rounds of hollow points. byekittyohyeahukchuckle
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Yes, the US certainly needs an even larger and more expensive military and intelligence service.
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The U.S. government is obviously capable of locating money somewhere. Perhaps it's in our pockets right now, but our money is borrowed money...right?
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That was a great representation of the show. Loved it! Rangers...lead the way.
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This is the kind of stuff that happens when you have CIA directors who become def sec (Panetta) and Generals that become CIA directors (petraeus). Civilian intelligence agencies and the military should NEVER mix and know they are almost inseparable.

It's environments like this that you start to see totalitarian governments forming.
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Must keep the war machine going. Soon the war will be against the American citizens. barry will fight wars as long as he can.
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Guess you don't get it at all. These new agencies are funded by the NWO. Trade between governments, is just moving money, resources etc... around to make it LOOK like there is a thing called money.
Do you know HOW many countries owe the US from WW2??? Do you know how many have paid us back? 2.
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"Several hundred case officers will make up the new spy shop. Drawn from the Defense Intelligence Agency, the officers will be sent to beef up US intelligence teams in areas that are now receiving more attention.
 Quoting: Idgits


LOL wasn't there just a post that says pentagon laid off several hundred officers? Well now we know which department they were moved to
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Nobody trusts are leaders anymore, they know it and are throwing more money at the problem. More control , more fear , more paranoia. We are not a great free country anymore. Just sheep and thugs!
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This is where a majority of taxes go, down the black hole of black ops in the black budget.
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Believe it or not, all operational expenses are paid by the "agents" themselves. The new agency is entirely self sufficient. TRUST ME BRO :P

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The U.S. government is obviously capable of locating money somewhere. Perhaps it's in our pockets right now, but our money is borrowed money...right?
 Quoting: Idgits


You dont have anything in your pocket but debt. That is all the dollar is at this point.

Where did all the bailout money go to besides the Banking Cartel?

And you all think this is going to collapse?

Pfft.

Who has all the tangible assets wins.

You have nothing but debt.

Because you choose to enter the game and system, and play, although it was always "voluntary".

Since you have used a debt instrument, and borrowed off of tangible assets as collateral(loan), you are in the weaker position, as all Americans.

Read the Federal Reserve Act of 1933.

Make your demand for Lawful money under section 12, subsection 411.

You are then on the Lawful system, and no longer need to be taxed for the use of the debt instrument which is fiat.

All it takes is a Demand.
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Nobody trusts are leaders anymore, they know it and are throwing more money at the problem. More control , more fear , more paranoia. We are not a great free country anymore. Just sheep and thugs!
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hate to break it to ya bro, we were never free. banksters fingerprints all over the whole shebang.

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They can't keep track of what all the spy agencies are doing anyway.

Too much information can't see the forest for the trees.
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I guess we now know where the ex-secret service men are being transferred to

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How...how are we able to afford this agency when the government is completely broke? How are we able to afford a new agency when the military is being cut back drastically? How do we afford this agency when the nation is abolsutely broke???

 Quoting: Idgits


How can they afford it? What do you think America is doing in Afghanistan. Helping? No, they are in control of something like 90% of the world's heroin supply. That is hundreds upon hundreds of billions of dollars a year that are completely off the books.

So yeah, on paper America is broke, that way they can avoid having to do things like fund schools, and try to better the life of their citizens, in general. In the back rooms everyone is only getting richer.
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These agencies are virtual countries within the US government. They compete against each other like multinational corporations.

They needed a weak President, they got one ... Obomba. They needed a gobermint with no spending limit. Here it is 5 trillion dollars in debt later. The economy collapsed, the banks and Federal Reserve took over - no problemo for them. Its more unproductive waste piled on someone else to pay off.
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I guess we now know where the ex-secret service men are being transferred to

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the eastern front....?
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The two big questions I have are Why?...and How?

Why do we need a new agency when we already have so many clandestine organizations that we've used the entire alphabet in 3 or 4 letter agencies. Why would the Pentagon unveil this now? What is happening that makes it necessary now verses some other time frame in the past or some time in the future?

How...how are we able to afford this agency when the government is completely broke? How are we able to afford a new agency when the military is being cut back drastically? How do we afford this agency when the nation is abolsutely broke???

What special capabilities do they have in relation to U.S. citizens? Does this unit fit into the new NDAA? Is it being given some special authority to kill where the CIA, DIA and other agencies could not?

Are they allowed to operate on U.S. soil?



[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]


"Several hundred case officers will make up the new spy shop. Drawn from the Defense Intelligence Agency, the officers will be sent to beef up US intelligence teams in areas that are now receiving more attention.

Those include Africa, where al-Qaida is increasingly active, to parts of Asia where the North Korean missile threat and Chinese military expansion are causing increasing US concern."
 Quoting: Idgits


I think this has to be analyzed by understanding things at the bureaucratic or higher organization level. What happens when an individual within such an organization screws up badly and can no longer function in their position? They are transferred to some other department!

The lack of consequences or appropriate punitive action to bureaucratic individuals extends up to the organizaitonal level - very seldom will a governmental body higher up in a hierarchy try to completely eliminate a department when it is dysfunctional. Instead, they will shuffle responsibilites and jurisdictions around, create sub-departments, etc. Just an endless juggling and passing the buck.

So really what your seeing is this "new and improved" gee whiz buck rogers type agency created because nobody in government is willing or able to enforce the discipline on others enough to GET THERE FREAKING JOBS DONE.

BTW, I don't think this attitude is limited to Government, or even large Corporations, but I see it mostly as an extension of modern slacker-retard culture.

In summary, the creation of more and more bureaucracies to handle basically the same things is a sign of weakness, not strength.
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I bet you're right OP - they probably draw power from the NDAA in some form or fashion.

So what is it now? CIA, DHS, NSA, DIA, now DCS?????????????

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PAY INFORMATES FIRST,then with the info do your job as law enforcement sees fit
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where do i sign up?
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I wonder if this is related to the new Spec Ops that is being developed at Quantico.
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A poorly educated lot on these forums apparently. The sacrifice and hard work of the many men and women of America's clandestine services may be the only thing saving you from learning Chinese





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