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Abortion Survivor Meets Nurse Who Saved Her Life

 
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More right wing Christians obsessing over the gynecology and obstetrics of women they don't even know.

If you were more in touch with your own sexuality and weren't so sexually guilty/repressed, you wouldn't treat other women's GYN experiences as a spectator sport.

There should be a constitutional right to privacy, so religious perverts would have to mind their own business and stop obsessing over other people's reproduction.
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Whatever you say, baby killer.
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I wonder what the 50 million aborted fetuses would have to say?
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You people who think you have ANY say-so about abortion/non-abortion are fools.

It is a female's body, her right, her choice.

Not yours, not mine, not a husband's, not a boyfriend's, not a preacher's, not a relative's, not a stranger's.

Period.
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More right wing Christians obsessing over the gynecology and obstetrics of women they don't even know.

If you were more in touch with your own sexuality and weren't so sexually guilty/repressed, you wouldn't treat other women's GYN experiences as a spectator sport.

There should be a constitutional right to privacy, so religious perverts would have to mind their own business and stop obsessing over other people's reproduction.
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You're smart for a person, but faithless as a human being.
There;s no man-made rule (the Constitutional terms, too) to be over the natural laws.
These laws cannot be accepted by most "speaking tools", living in a virtual ideatic/idiotic "land" = manipulated fantasy land.
You think you own your body, you think you have the "right" to do anything with you ... just because is hard to believe your perception is giving you the truth, as it is so materialistic to you... (some Mao, Lenin, Marx in your "library"?)
What have you done to be born?
What is your contribution to have eyes, hands, ears, internal organs.... or to be able to use your brain?
You can say there's nothing outside your mind but doesn't matter - there is the strongest and most intelligent something to let you be and do and this "something" is taking care of life better than a human being, better than any law an Government.
"Your own sexuality" is in your mind only.. when you'll be able to feel and understand you're not a "super-machine" or a very powerful, ... warm computer will be too late and no chance to go back to restore your chance.
Abortion is killing, thinking and planning is human, as is human the love, the respect and the hope.
You don't seem to have anything but selfish and calculus in your sight - so sad to see people thinking they over the power of life just bescause they can use the mouth or type messages like an echo of nothing.
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More right wing Christians obsessing over the gynecology and obstetrics of women they don't even know.

If you were more in touch with your own sexuality and weren't so sexually guilty/repressed, you wouldn't treat other women's GYN experiences as a spectator sport.

There should be a constitutional right to privacy, so religious perverts would have to mind their own business and stop obsessing over other people's reproduction.
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Very well said I agree, these people are so creepy, feels like they are peering up every woman's crotch to see what's going on. And another persons baby (or future baby OR chosen lack thereof) is not any of their business either. Mind your own body but don't you dare come intruding into mine!
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hfhfhf

Thanks, OP. Amazing story. :tears:

Reminds me that obama, when State Senator, voted that babies who survived a botched abortion should not get any medical treatment. A nurse from one hospital testified that such a baby was put in a utility closet to die.

He is a souless, evil monster.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


Yes he is. When I protested him when he came to my area when he was campaigning, you could feel the evil surrounding him, and in him.
 Quoting: tiger1


I do believe you. I have felt the presence of true evil so I don't doubt your experience.

I can't even watch him on tv, I have to change the channel whenever they show him on the screen. The longest I have ever been able to watch him is about thirty seconds if I force myself.
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Me too. Except I can't even get to five seconds. I have become very proficient in banishing him from my screen. I also can't stand the sound of his voice on the radio. *click*

If I have to hear that voice for another four years, my sanity may be truly be in jeopardy.
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Pleased to make your acquaintance. There are still a few real people left...hf
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You people who think you have ANY say-so about abortion/non-abortion are fools.

It is a female's body, her right, her choice.

Not yours, not mine, not a husband's, not a boyfriend's, not a preacher's, not a relative's, not a stranger's.

Period.

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clappa Goofy Thum
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hfhfhf

Thanks, OP. Amazing story. :tears:

Reminds me that obama, when State Senator, voted that babies who survived a botched abortion should not get any medical treatment. A nurse from one hospital testified that such a baby was put in a utility closet to die.

He is a souless, evil monster.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


Yes he is. When I protested him when he came to my area when he was campaigning, you could feel the evil surrounding him, and in him.
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Pleased to make your acquaintance, too, Tiger1. Three cheers for the humans...hf
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All of the conversation is about to abort or not to abort which frustrates me to no end as that is all the young women think about that this is their right. How about replacing the coversation of abortion with planning and responsibility for ones sexuality. With all the focus on abortion some women hear this as their contraceptive of choice is being threatened. And when women make this choice they need to also hear of the medical repercussions ie scarring etc and the emotional repercussions - depression.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14600959


1. It is. Roe V Wade dumbass.

2. People can and do get pregnant while using precautions.

3. Women don't use it as a "contraception of choice". That's a fallacy pushed by FOX NEWS et al

4. Depression - also a fallacy. Those who become depressed should have not made that choice.

Abortion will always be legal, it is used merely as a wedge issue and then dropped. Every 4 years. Don't like it? Don't have one. Very simple indeed.
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So you would just stand and wath millions of sweet innocent babies murdered by some scumbag murdering baby killing son of satan like george tiller or any other abortion doctor?? Well what does the Bible say about what needs to happen to murderers???????

Genesis 9:6

Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man
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That is beautiful! I love when God takes something planned for evil and makes something good from it. There are millions of others not as fortunate to have a voice today.
tissue
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God doesn't care about the millions of others. Obviously.
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He doesnt care about me and thats for sure. I just found out today that I will be having another miscarriage. I should be 7 weeks but the (vaginal) ultrasound today showed a sac and yolk but no embryo. I had a missed miscarriage in February and had to have a D&C. I was 9 weeks then. We even heard a heartbeat at 6 weeks and then the embryo just stopped growing and died.

If God gave a shit about people he wouldnt allow people to have children that end up beating and killing them yet deny my husband and I a child. We have a loving and stable marriage and are financially capable of giving a child everything. I am not the type of person who usually gets depressed but this is too much. I am really starting to question God. Im in my mid 30s and my husband is in his mid 40s so time is not on our side. I am beside myself with grief.
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Abortion Survivor Meets Nurse Who Saved Her Life

The abortion survivor steps into the room and comes face to face with a nurse volunteer that held and rocked her nearly thirty-five years ago when she was in a neonatal intensive care unit (NICU). Tears flow quickly and they embrace. Sounds like a scene straight out of a Hollywood movie, doesn’t it?

[link to www.lifenews.com]
 Quoting: julie ertelt 4490782


Abortion Survivor? NOPE. A FAILED Abortion Survivor. One cannot survive a correctly preformed abortion. do some of you only use 1% of your brian power?
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I was thinking the exact same thing. What she was holding a fetus???
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I wonder what the 50 million aborted fetuses would have to say?
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Creator of all God will give them a voice. He is not moved. He loves all the little children. It matters not to Him who they were sacrifice to. Whether it be the god of convenience or the god of finances, or the god of bad timing, they are His.

It really doesn't matter to Him how people reason these children out of relevance. That is just evil justifying itself. Temporary deduction of common cause for the benevolent mystical promotion of self can never cover the shed blood of the innocent, as those that reason the very source of life, Creator God, out of the equation, that a mere child that is the only hope they have of a continual namesake, must die, so they might live for their my own cause - self.

Self is a god
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 Quoting: julie ertelt 4490782

All of the conversation is about to abort or not to abort which frustrates me to no end as that is all the young women think about that this is their right. How about replacing the coversation of abortion with planning and responsibility for ones sexuality. With all the focus on abortion some women hear this as their contraceptive of choice is being threatened. And when women make this choice they need to also hear of the medical repercussions ie scarring etc and the emotional repercussions - depression.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14600959


1. It is. Roe V Wade dumbass.

2. People can and do get pregnant while using precautions.

3. Women don't use it as a "contraception of choice". That's a fallacy pushed by FOX NEWS et al

4. Depression - also a fallacy. Those who become depressed should have not made that choice.

Abortion will always be legal, it is used merely as a wedge issue and then dropped. Every 4 years. Don't like it? Don't have one. Very simple indeed.
 Quoting: WretchedHollywood



So you would just stand and wath millions of sweet innocent babies murdered by some scumbag murdering baby killing son of satan like george tiller or any other abortion doctor?? Well what does the Bible say about what needs to happen to murderers???????

Genesis 9:6

Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man
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Don't bother. You are dealing with sociopaths, not caring human beings.

Ever see the movie (or read the novel) "The Stand"? The ones who went to Vegas are the ones who can callously dispose of a human life. They are lost souls without a moral compass.
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hfhfhf

Thanks, OP. Amazing story. :tears:

Reminds me that obama, when State Senator, voted that babies who survived a botched abortion should not get any medical treatment. A nurse from one hospital testified that such a baby was put in a utility closet to die.

He is a souless, evil monster.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


Yes he is. When I protested him when he came to my area when he was campaigning, you could feel the evil surrounding him, and in him.
 Quoting: tiger1


I do believe you. I have felt the presence of true evil so I don't doubt your experience.

I can't even watch him on tv, I have to change the channel whenever they show him on the screen. The longest I have ever been able to watch him is about thirty seconds if I force myself.
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Me too. Except I can't even get to five seconds. I have become very proficient in banishing him from my screen. I also can't stand the sound of his voice on the radio. *click*

If I have to hear that voice for another four years, my sanity may be truly be in jeopardy.
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LOL WHY U MAD THO?
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You people who think you have ANY say-so about abortion/non-abortion are fools.

It is a female's body, her right, her choice.

Not yours, not mine, not a husband's, not a boyfriend's, not a preacher's, not a relative's, not a stranger's.

Period.
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So you are saying if a man got his wife pregnant he has no
say in the matter of the life of his unborn child?
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Abortion Survivor Meets Nurse Who Saved Her Life

The abortion survivor steps into the room and comes face to face with a nurse volunteer that held and rocked her nearly thirty-five years ago when she was in a neonatal intensive care unit (NICU). Tears flow quickly and they embrace. Sounds like a scene straight out of a Hollywood movie, doesn’t it?

[link to www.lifenews.com]
 Quoting: julie ertelt 4490782


Abortion Survivor? NOPE. A FAILED Abortion Survivor. One cannot survive a correctly preformed abortion. do some of you only use 1% of your brian power?
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A teenager was killed in a motorcycle crash, while on his way to the grocery store.

Now, according to your logic, the above headline should have read "A teenager was killed during a FAILED trip to the grocery store."
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clappa
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You people who think you have ANY say-so about abortion/non-abortion are fools.

It is a female's body, her right, her choice.

Not yours, not mine, not a husband's, not a boyfriend's, not a preacher's, not a relative's, not a stranger's.

Period.
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So you are saying if a man got his wife pregnant he has no
say in the matter of the life of his unborn child?
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CORRECT!
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That is beautiful! I love when God takes something planned for evil and makes something good from it. There are millions of others not as fortunate to have a voice today.
tissue
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God doesn't care about the millions of others. Obviously.
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He doesnt care about me and thats for sure. I just found out today that I will be having another miscarriage. I should be 7 weeks but the (vaginal) ultrasound today showed a sac and yolk but no embryo. I had a missed miscarriage in February and had to have a D&C. I was 9 weeks then. We even heard a heartbeat at 6 weeks and then the embryo just stopped growing and died.

If God gave a shit about people he wouldnt allow people to have children that end up beating and killing them yet deny my husband and I a child. We have a loving and stable marriage and are financially capable of giving a child everything. I am not the type of person who usually gets depressed but this is too much. I am really starting to question God. Im in my mid 30s and my husband is in his mid 40s so time is not on our side. I am beside myself with grief.
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I have had 11 pregnancies, and lost them all except for 2. I lost a set of twins, and from 6 1/2 weeks gestation, to a stillborn at 7 months. You are NOT alone. Yes, it is rough, no doubt about it. I wanted a large family, but it didn't work out that way. But, I am very blessed to have 3 daughters,2 birth, 1 adopted. My last child was born when I was almost 42. It was a rough pregnancy, and I almost didn't make it.
I know your pain, as I have lived through it too many times.
Don't question God, but ask Him for strength. Personally, I think the fact that most of my children who are not here with me, because they were taken so soon, makes me appreciate even more, the ones I do have here with me.

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Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!!
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Abortion Survivor? NOPE. A FAILED Abortion Survivor. One cannot survive a correctly preformed abortion. do some of you only use 1% of your brian power?
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wow. YOU SIR ARE AN IDIOT.

She obviously survived her mom trying to abort her...therefore *DING* *DING* *DING* "a SURVIVOR"

Just like Breast Cancer survivors....it was something that COULD'VE TAKEN THEIR LIVES...and yet they are still HERE...to talk about it.

Survivor (definition):
1. To remain alive or in existence.
2. To carry on despite hardships or trauma; persevere: families that were surviving in tents after the flood.
3. To remain functional or usable: I dropped the radio, but it survived.

or

1. To live longer than; outlive: She survived her husband by five years.
2. To live, persist, or remain usable through: plants that can survive frosts; a clock that survived a fall.
3. To cope with (a trauma or setback); persevere after: survived child abuse.
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I wonder what the 50 million aborted fetuses would have to say?
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God is not mocked. Expect 50 million to die as our punishment. Judgement is at hand
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You people who think you have ANY say-so about abortion/non-abortion are fools.

It is a female's body, her right, her choice.

Not yours, not mine, not a husband's, not a boyfriend's, not a preacher's, not a relative's, not a stranger's.

Period.
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So you are saying if a man got his wife pregnant he has no
say in the matter of the life of his unborn child?
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Ultimately, no he does not.

Whether or not a couple BOTH want to have a child is something they BOTH should talk about BEFORE becoming sexually involved - and certainly BEFORE they get married.

People need to THINK BEFORE they ACT.
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I wonder what the 50 million aborted fetuses would have to say?
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hmmm they would probably say, "my mommy SUCKS"....and by sucks I mean the sucking sound of a vaacum to scoop her vagina out...sickos

ABORTION IS WRONG!!!!!!
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I have had 11 pregnancies, and lost them all except for 2. I lost a set of twins, and from 6 1/2 weeks gestation, to a stillborn at 7 months. You are NOT alone. Yes, it is rough, no doubt about it. I wanted a large family, but it didn't work out that way. But, I am very blessed to have 3 daughters,2 birth, 1 adopted. My last child was born when I was almost 42. It was a rough pregnancy, and I almost didn't make it.
I know your pain, as I have lived through it too many times.
Don't question God, but ask Him for strength. Personally, I think the fact that most of my children who are not here with me, because they were taken so soon, makes me appreciate even more, the ones I do have here with me.
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11 pregnancies.

WHY would you do that to your body????

You wanted a "large family".

WHY?

You had a child when you were 42.

WHY?

Oh because YOU wanted to, never mind that the child comes into the world with a middle-aged mother.


"Adults" are so frigging selfish and destructive.
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I wonder what the 50 million aborted fetuses would have to say?
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God is not mocked. Expect 50 million to die as our punishment. Judgement is at hand
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Like the judgement for killing countless innocents in your phony man made religious based foreign wars?
Oh yeah, I'd say judgement is at hand alright! ohyeah
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You people who think you have ANY say-so about abortion/non-abortion are fools.

It is a female's body, her right, her choice.

Not yours, not mine, not a husband's, not a boyfriend's, not a preacher's, not a relative's, not a stranger's.

Period.
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So you are saying if a man got his wife pregnant he has no
say in the matter of the life of his unborn child?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13100401



Ultimately, no he does not.

Whether or not a couple BOTH want to have a child is something they BOTH should talk about BEFORE becoming sexually involved - and certainly BEFORE they get married.

People need to THINK BEFORE they ACT.
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That's interesting logic because I know of plenty of "husbands" who'd much rather wish their wives had aborted their own seed...and BEFORE they got "married" he claimed he wanted them but after he got what he wanted and stuff started getting real, he backtracked...so what say you know...

Men are just as double minded as women...
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You people who think you have ANY say-so about abortion/non-abortion are fools.

It is a female's body, her right, her choice.

Not yours, not mine, not a husband's, not a boyfriend's, not a preacher's, not a relative's, not a stranger's.

Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15131093


So you are saying if a man got his wife pregnant he has no
say in the matter of the life of his unborn child?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13100401



Ultimately, no he does not.

Whether or not a couple BOTH want to have a child is something they BOTH should talk about BEFORE becoming sexually involved - and certainly BEFORE they get married.

People need to THINK BEFORE they ACT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15131093


That's interesting logic because I know of plenty of "husbands" who'd much rather wish their wives had aborted their own seed...and BEFORE they got "married" he claimed he wanted them but after he got what he wanted and stuff started getting real, he backtracked...so what say you know...

Men are just as double minded as women...
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Well, your post was a bit hard to decipher, but I think you are referring to men who "say" they are ok with having kids, or will say anything the female wants to hear, and then when the responsibility is there, they don't stick around.

There is no doubt that such things happen.

Which is just another of the countless dysfunctional layers to human relationships.
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You know . . .

If humans would use self-restraint, if humans did not weakly give in to the "sex is important" mental programming, if humans concentrated on spending their time more creatively and productively, if humans were not so selfish and shallow, if humans were not so obsessed with sex, if humans would realize how destructive and distracting sex is, and if humans used rationale to understand the seriousness and complexity of existence on earth . . . the topic of abortion would seldom to never be an issue.
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A mental exercise for the "pro-lifers", this is purely hypothetical, just use your imagination.

How would you feel about abortion, if you KNEW without a shadow of a doubt, that there is no God?
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A teenager was killed in a motorcycle crash, while on his way to the grocery store.

Now, according to your logic, the above headline should have read "A teenager was killed during a FAILED trip to the grocery store."
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Does teenager was killed during a SUCCESSFUL trip to the grocery store. sound correct?
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I have had 11 pregnancies, and lost them all except for 2. I lost a set of twins, and from 6 1/2 weeks gestation, to a stillborn at 7 months. You are NOT alone. Yes, it is rough, no doubt about it. I wanted a large family, but it didn't work out that way. But, I am very blessed to have 3 daughters,2 birth, 1 adopted. My last child was born when I was almost 42. It was a rough pregnancy, and I almost didn't make it.
I know your pain, as I have lived through it too many times.
Don't question God, but ask Him for strength. Personally, I think the fact that most of my children who are not here with me, because they were taken so soon, makes me appreciate even more, the ones I do have here with me.
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11 pregnancies.

WHY would you do that to your body????

You wanted a "large family".

WHY?

You had a child when you were 42.

WHY?

Oh because YOU wanted to, never mind that the child comes into the world with a middle-aged mother.


"Adults" are so frigging selfish and destructive.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15131093


I totally agree WTF???

Why MUST people INSIST on having children of THEIR OWN?

WHY?

Don't you people think that if you can't have children that then maybe God is trying to tell you something???

Why not adopt? There are millions of unwanted children out there that need homes...

And don't be an abusive POS that treats a child who is not your own LESS than a child who is your own! There are too many of those people out there! I'm sick of hearing of abuse and peophiliac P's OS!!!!!





GLP