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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 3741911 United States04/26/2012 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS Greater Israel Greater Israel is a controversial expression with several different Biblical and political meanings over time. Currently, the most common definition of the land encompassed by the term is the territory of the State of Israel together with the Palestinian territories. Other earlier definitions, favored by Revisionist Zionism, included the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine (with or without Transjordan, which developed independently after 1923). Other religious uses refer to one of the Biblical definitions of the Land of Israel found in Genesis 15:18-21, Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1-15 or Ezekiel 47:13-20. The boundaries of the Land of Israel defined by Genesis 15:18-21 The boundaries of the Land of Israel defined by Ezekiel (blue line) and in the Torah (red line). Hide State of Israel, West Bank, and Gaza Strip Currently in Israel, in the debate relating to the borders of Israel, "Greater Israel" is generally used to refer to the territory of the State of Israel and the Palestinian territories, the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine. However, because of the controversial nature of the term, the term Land of Israel is used. Joel Greenberg, writing in the New York Times notes; ‘At Israel's founding in 1948, the Labor Zionist leadership, which went on to govern Israel in its first three decades of independence, accepted a pragmatic partition of what had been British Palestine into independent Jewish and Arab states. The opposition Revisionist Zionists, who evolved into today's Likud party, sought Eretz Yisrael Ha-Shlema -- Greater Israel, or literally, the Whole Land of Israel.[1] The capture of the West Bank and Gaza Strip from Jordan and Egypt during the Six Day War in 1967, led to the growth of the non-parliamentary Movement for Greater Israel and the construction of Israeli settlements. The 1977 elections, which brought Likud to power also had considerable impact on acceptance and rejection of the term. Greenberg notes: THE seed was sown in 1977, when Menachem Begin of Likud brought his party to power for the first time in a stunning election victory over Labor. A decade before, in the 1967 war, Israeli troops had in effect undone the partition accepted in 1948 by overrunning the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Ever since, Mr. Begin had preached undying loyalty to what he called Judea and Samaria (the West Bank lands) and promoted Jewish settlement there. But he did not annex the West Bank and Gaza to Israel after he took office, reflecting a recognition that absorbing the Palestinians could turn Israel into a bi-national state instead of a Jewish one.[1] Yitzhak Shamir was a dedicated proponent of Greater Israel and as Israeli Prime Minister gave the settler movement funding and Israeli governmental legitimisation.[2] Annexation of the Palestinian territories (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) is part of the platform of the Israeli Likud party, and of some other Israeli political parties.[3] On September 14, 2008 Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert remarked that "Greater Israel is over. There is no such thing. Anyone who talks that way is deluding themselves".[4] The same territory, "from the river to the sea", is also claimed as Palestine by the PLO[5] and Hamas.[6] Hillel Weiss, a professor at Bar-Ilan University, "preaches" the necessity of rebuilding the Temple and of Jewish rule over Greater Israel.[7][8][9]Rabbi Meir Kahane, assassinated Jewish leader and Knesset Member who founded the American Jewish Defense League and the Israeli Kach party worked towards this and other Religious Zionist goals. The website of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies has a page on the Geography of Israel containing a description of Israel's borders, including the following:- Egypt to the south and Jordan to the east. The map of Israel shows the West Bank simply as Samaria and Judea. The map notes that both Samaria and Judea were Under Jordanian Rule Until 1967.[10] On the website the Board of Deputies notes that it is the official elected representative roof-body of the Jewish Community in New South Wales,..[11] ↑Jump back a section Hide Promised Land Main article: Land of Israel See also: Promised Land Greater Israel occasionally refers to the Promised Land (defined in Genesis 15:18-21) or to the Land of Israel, and is also called Complete Land of Israel or "Entire Land of Israel" (Hebrew: ארץ ישראל השלמה‎, Eretz Yisrael Hashlemah). This is a more accurate translation than "Greater" Israel, which is used in English but has no real counterpart in Hebrew. The Bible contains three geographical definitions of the Land of Israel. The first, found in Genesis 15:18-21, seems to define the land that was given to all of the children of Abraham, including Ishmael, Zimran, Jokshan, Midian, etc. It describes a large territory, "from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates", comprising all of modern-day Israel, the Palestinian Territories, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq, as well as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, U.A.E, Oman, Yemen, most of Turkey, and all the land east of the Nile river. The other definitions are found in Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1-15, and Ezekiel 47:13-20. They describe smaller territories (see the map included in this article). The definition in Numbers and Ezekiel refers to the land that was divided between the original twelve tribes of Israel after they were delivered from Egypt, and finally, the borders defined in the book of Deuteronomy are those that will be given to the children of Israel slowly throughout the years (please see Exodus 23:29 & Deuteronomy 7:22). 10 Agorot coin controversy Main article: 10 Agorot controversy Zionists, and the State of Israel, have been accused of plotting to expand Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates. This so-called 10 Agorot controversy is named after the Israeli coin brandished by PLO chairman Yasser Arafat in 1988 as evidence for this accusation.[12] The Bank of Israel denies this claim and maintains the coin is a replica of historical coin dating from 37-40 BCE.[13] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8541689 United States05/02/2012 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS Greater Israel Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3741911 Greater Israel is a controversial expression with several different Biblical and political meanings over time. Currently, the most common definition of the land encompassed by the term is the territory of the State of Israel together with the Palestinian territories. Other earlier definitions, favored by Revisionist Zionism, included the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine (with or without Transjordan, which developed independently after 1923). Other religious uses refer to one of the Biblical definitions of the Land of Israel found in Genesis 15:18-21, Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1-15 or Ezekiel 47:13-20. The boundaries of the Land of Israel defined by Genesis 15:18-21 The boundaries of the Land of Israel defined by Ezekiel (blue line) and in the Torah (red line). Hide State of Israel, West Bank, and Gaza Strip Currently in Israel, in the debate relating to the borders of Israel, "Greater Israel" is generally used to refer to the territory of the State of Israel and the Palestinian territories, the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine. However, because of the controversial nature of the term, the term Land of Israel is used. Joel Greenberg, writing in the New York Times notes; ‘At Israel's founding in 1948, the Labor Zionist leadership, which went on to govern Israel in its first three decades of independence, accepted a pragmatic partition of what had been British Palestine into independent Jewish and Arab states. The opposition Revisionist Zionists, who evolved into today's Likud party, sought Eretz Yisrael Ha-Shlema -- Greater Israel, or literally, the Whole Land of Israel.[1] The capture of the West Bank and Gaza Strip from Jordan and Egypt during the Six Day War in 1967, led to the growth of the non-parliamentary Movement for Greater Israel and the construction of Israeli settlements. The 1977 elections, which brought Likud to power also had considerable impact on acceptance and rejection of the term. Greenberg notes: THE seed was sown in 1977, when Menachem Begin of Likud brought his party to power for the first time in a stunning election victory over Labor. A decade before, in the 1967 war, Israeli troops had in effect undone the partition accepted in 1948 by overrunning the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Ever since, Mr. Begin had preached undying loyalty to what he called Judea and Samaria (the West Bank lands) and promoted Jewish settlement there. But he did not annex the West Bank and Gaza to Israel after he took office, reflecting a recognition that absorbing the Palestinians could turn Israel into a bi-national state instead of a Jewish one.[1] Yitzhak Shamir was a dedicated proponent of Greater Israel and as Israeli Prime Minister gave the settler movement funding and Israeli governmental legitimisation.[2] Annexation of the Palestinian territories (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) is part of the platform of the Israeli Likud party, and of some other Israeli political parties.[3] On September 14, 2008 Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert remarked that "Greater Israel is over. There is no such thing. Anyone who talks that way is deluding themselves".[4] The same territory, "from the river to the sea", is also claimed as Palestine by the PLO[5] and Hamas.[6] Hillel Weiss, a professor at Bar-Ilan University, "preaches" the necessity of rebuilding the Temple and of Jewish rule over Greater Israel.[7][8][9]Rabbi Meir Kahane, assassinated Jewish leader and Knesset Member who founded the American Jewish Defense League and the Israeli Kach party worked towards this and other Religious Zionist goals. The website of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies has a page on the Geography of Israel containing a description of Israel's borders, including the following:- Egypt to the south and Jordan to the east. The map of Israel shows the West Bank simply as Samaria and Judea. The map notes that both Samaria and Judea were Under Jordanian Rule Until 1967.[10] On the website the Board of Deputies notes that it is the official elected representative roof-body of the Jewish Community in New South Wales,..[11] ↑Jump back a section Hide Promised Land Main article: Land of Israel See also: Promised Land Greater Israel occasionally refers to the Promised Land (defined in Genesis 15:18-21) or to the Land of Israel, and is also called Complete Land of Israel or "Entire Land of Israel" (Hebrew: ארץ ישראל השלמה‎, Eretz Yisrael Hashlemah). This is a more accurate translation than "Greater" Israel, which is used in English but has no real counterpart in Hebrew. The Bible contains three geographical definitions of the Land of Israel. The first, found in Genesis 15:18-21, seems to define the land that was given to all of the children of Abraham, including Ishmael, Zimran, Jokshan, Midian, etc. It describes a large territory, "from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates", comprising all of modern-day Israel, the Palestinian Territories, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq, as well as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, U.A.E, Oman, Yemen, most of Turkey, and all the land east of the Nile river. The other definitions are found in Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1-15, and Ezekiel 47:13-20. They describe smaller territories (see the map included in this article). The definition in Numbers and Ezekiel refers to the land that was divided between the original twelve tribes of Israel after they were delivered from Egypt, and finally, the borders defined in the book of Deuteronomy are those that will be given to the children of Israel slowly throughout the years (please see Exodus 23:29 & Deuteronomy 7:22). 10 Agorot coin controversy Main article: 10 Agorot controversy Zionists, and the State of Israel, have been accused of plotting to expand Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates. This so-called 10 Agorot controversy is named after the Israeli coin brandished by PLO chairman Yasser Arafat in 1988 as evidence for this accusation.[12] The Bank of Israel denies this claim and maintains the coin is a replica of historical coin dating from 37-40 BCE.[13] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8541689 United States05/04/2012 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS Greater Israel Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3741911 Greater Israel is a controversial expression with several different Biblical and political meanings over time. Currently, the most common definition of the land encompassed by the term is the territory of the State of Israel together with the Palestinian territories. Other earlier definitions, favored by Revisionist Zionism, included the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine (with or without Transjordan, which developed independently after 1923). Other religious uses refer to one of the Biblical definitions of the Land of Israel found in Genesis 15:18-21, Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1-15 or Ezekiel 47:13-20. The boundaries of the Land of Israel defined by Genesis 15:18-21 The boundaries of the Land of Israel defined by Ezekiel (blue line) and in the Torah (red line). Hide State of Israel, West Bank, and Gaza Strip Currently in Israel, in the debate relating to the borders of Israel, "Greater Israel" is generally used to refer to the territory of the State of Israel and the Palestinian territories, the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine. However, because of the controversial nature of the term, the term Land of Israel is used. Joel Greenberg, writing in the New York Times notes; ‘At Israel's founding in 1948, the Labor Zionist leadership, which went on to govern Israel in its first three decades of independence, accepted a pragmatic partition of what had been British Palestine into independent Jewish and Arab states. The opposition Revisionist Zionists, who evolved into today's Likud party, sought Eretz Yisrael Ha-Shlema -- Greater Israel, or literally, the Whole Land of Israel.[1] The capture of the West Bank and Gaza Strip from Jordan and Egypt during the Six Day War in 1967, led to the growth of the non-parliamentary Movement for Greater Israel and the construction of Israeli settlements. The 1977 elections, which brought Likud to power also had considerable impact on acceptance and rejection of the term. Greenberg notes: THE seed was sown in 1977, when Menachem Begin of Likud brought his party to power for the first time in a stunning election victory over Labor. A decade before, in the 1967 war, Israeli troops had in effect undone the partition accepted in 1948 by overrunning the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Ever since, Mr. Begin had preached undying loyalty to what he called Judea and Samaria (the West Bank lands) and promoted Jewish settlement there. But he did not annex the West Bank and Gaza to Israel after he took office, reflecting a recognition that absorbing the Palestinians could turn Israel into a bi-national state instead of a Jewish one.[1] Yitzhak Shamir was a dedicated proponent of Greater Israel and as Israeli Prime Minister gave the settler movement funding and Israeli governmental legitimisation.[2] Annexation of the Palestinian territories (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) is part of the platform of the Israeli Likud party, and of some other Israeli political parties.[3] On September 14, 2008 Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert remarked that "Greater Israel is over. There is no such thing. Anyone who talks that way is deluding themselves".[4] The same territory, "from the river to the sea", is also claimed as Palestine by the PLO[5] and Hamas.[6] Hillel Weiss, a professor at Bar-Ilan University, "preaches" the necessity of rebuilding the Temple and of Jewish rule over Greater Israel.[7][8][9]Rabbi Meir Kahane, assassinated Jewish leader and Knesset Member who founded the American Jewish Defense League and the Israeli Kach party worked towards this and other Religious Zionist goals. The website of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies has a page on the Geography of Israel containing a description of Israel's borders, including the following:- Egypt to the south and Jordan to the east. The map of Israel shows the West Bank simply as Samaria and Judea. The map notes that both Samaria and Judea were Under Jordanian Rule Until 1967.[10] On the website the Board of Deputies notes that it is the official elected representative roof-body of the Jewish Community in New South Wales,..[11] ↑Jump back a section Hide Promised Land Main article: Land of Israel See also: Promised Land Greater Israel occasionally refers to the Promised Land (defined in Genesis 15:18-21) or to the Land of Israel, and is also called Complete Land of Israel or "Entire Land of Israel" (Hebrew: ארץ ישראל השלמה‎, Eretz Yisrael Hashlemah). This is a more accurate translation than "Greater" Israel, which is used in English but has no real counterpart in Hebrew. The Bible contains three geographical definitions of the Land of Israel. The first, found in Genesis 15:18-21, seems to define the land that was given to all of the children of Abraham, including Ishmael, Zimran, Jokshan, Midian, etc. It describes a large territory, "from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates", comprising all of modern-day Israel, the Palestinian Territories, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq, as well as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, U.A.E, Oman, Yemen, most of Turkey, and all the land east of the Nile river. The other definitions are found in Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1-15, and Ezekiel 47:13-20. They describe smaller territories (see the map included in this article). The definition in Numbers and Ezekiel refers to the land that was divided between the original twelve tribes of Israel after they were delivered from Egypt, and finally, the borders defined in the book of Deuteronomy are those that will be given to the children of Israel slowly throughout the years (please see Exodus 23:29 & Deuteronomy 7:22). 10 Agorot coin controversy Main article: 10 Agorot controversy Zionists, and the State of Israel, have been accused of plotting to expand Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates. This so-called 10 Agorot controversy is named after the Israeli coin brandished by PLO chairman Yasser Arafat in 1988 as evidence for this accusation.[12] The Bank of Israel denies this claim and maintains the coin is a replica of historical coin dating from 37-40 BCE.[13] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15536316 United States05/04/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS Shame they didn't stay there. Brief History: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3741911 In 1978, Israeli forces illegally invaded the southern part of Lebanon. In 1982, Israel continued with its invasion up to and including Beirut. The United States, France, Italy and the United Kingdom sent a multi-national force to provide security while Israel pulled back and Palestinian forces left for Tunis. Israel defying UN Resolution 425, remained in a large part of south Lebanon.. Israel partially withdrew from central Lebanon in 1984 and 1985 but enlarged its occupation of the southern part of the country up to the area of Jezzine. In 1985, it declared that part of the country as a security zone for its border. On April 11, 1996, following an escalation in intermittent skirmishes, Israel commenced a bombardment of southern Lebanon and certain other targets in Lebanon, including the southern suburbs of Beirut. On April 27, 1996, a cease-fire "April Understanding" came into effect. The cease-fire was based on a written but unsigned agreement drawn up by France and the United States and setting out a position mutually acceptable to Israel, Syria and Lebanon, which expanded and consolidated oral cease-fire understanding reached in July 1993. These arrangements established an international group composed of representatives of the United States, France, Syria, Lebanon and Israel to monitor the cease-fire. Meetings of the monitoring group took place on a regular basis for the purpose of addressing repeated breaches of the cease-fire. On June 24, 1999, February 7, 2000, and May 5, 2000, Israeli military aircraft attacked several power stations and bridges near Beirut, as part of more frequent recent air attacks on Lebanese territory. The rehabilitation of the infrastructure damaged by these Israeli attacks has been completed. On May 24, 2000, Israel withdrew its troops from a large territory in southern Lebanon, which it had been occupying since 1978. A significant issue relating to the withdrawal remains unsettled. This relates to the status of certain villages and adjacent land on the eastern side of Alsheikh Mountain, known as the “Shebaa Farms”, which have been occupied by Israel since 1967. The Government advised the United Nations that it considers the area to be Lebanese territory and that, as such, the withdrawal must encompass it. On January 22, 2001, the Secretary General of the United Nations submitted to the United Nations Security Council a report covering the period from the withdrawal by Israeli forces from southern Lebanon (excluding the “Shebaa Farms”) on July 18, 2000 to January 18, 2001 which described the situation in southern Lebanon as generally stable, with the exception of certain breaches of the line of withdrawal (the so called “Blue Line”). The breaches consist of Israeli attacks on Lebanese territory and attacks on Israeli occupation military targets in the “Shebaa Farms” area. On June 12, 2006, in response to the Lebanese group, Hezbollah, capture of two Israeli soldiers, Israel backed by few Western powers attacked Lebanon infrastructures, from bridges, airport, ports, depots, hospitals, everything it can bomb. It attacked children, women, and elders. Over 1,300 Lebanese, including infants, and children were killed on the order of the Israeli prime minister Ohud Olmert. The economical loss to Lebanon was in approximate number of 1.6 billion. Lebanese group in response attacked several cities on the Israeli side with a significant damage to the local infrastructure. Israel failed to meet its objective of its war on Lebanon, and the Lebanese group, Hezbollah declared victory. The issue of Shebaa Farms was a point of the UN Resolution 1701, which ended the June 2006 war. Israeli Occupation of the Shebaa Farms: During the 1967 Six Day War Israeli forces seized a piece of Lebanese territory called the Shebaa Farms, a 25 square kilometer area consisting of 14 farms located south of the Shebaa, a Lebanese village on the western slopes of Mount Hermon. Since Lebanon was not a participant in the Six Day War, UN representatives were biased for Israel, pointing out that the 1923 Anglo-French demarcation and the 1949 Armistice line clearly designated the area as Syrian territory. The UN backed Israel and certified its pullout from Lebanon. However, Lebanese and Syrian officials insisted that Syria had officially given the territory to Lebanon in 1951. Lebanese officials pointed to the fact that a number of residents in the area have land deeds stamped by the Lebanese government. Lebanese army maps published in 1961 and 1966 specifically pinpoint several of the Shebaa Farms, including Zebdine, Fashkoul, Mougr Shebaa and Ramta, all of which are designated as being lebanese. Lebanese Ministry of Tourism maps also show the Lebanese-Syrian border running west of the Shebaa Farms. Syria has officially acknowledged the Farms are Lebanese. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said the Israeli-occupied Shebaa Farms belong to Lebanon. Assad told a news conference in Paris before ending a state visit to France, Beirut and Damascus will demarcate their countries' border at Shebaa Farms after Israel withdraws from the region. They will then submit a new map to the UN. The Lebanese Resistance has vowed to keep up resistance operations in the area until Israel withdraws. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1119811 United States05/12/2012 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS Greater Israel Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3741911 Greater Israel is a controversial expression with several different Biblical and political meanings over time. Currently, the most common definition of the land encompassed by the term is the territory of the State of Israel together with the Palestinian territories. Other earlier definitions, favored by Revisionist Zionism, included the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine (with or without Transjordan, which developed independently after 1923). Other religious uses refer to one of the Biblical definitions of the Land of Israel found in Genesis 15:18-21, Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1-15 or Ezekiel 47:13-20. The boundaries of the Land of Israel defined by Genesis 15:18-21 The boundaries of the Land of Israel defined by Ezekiel (blue line) and in the Torah (red line). Hide State of Israel, West Bank, and Gaza Strip Currently in Israel, in the debate relating to the borders of Israel, "Greater Israel" is generally used to refer to the territory of the State of Israel and the Palestinian territories, the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine. However, because of the controversial nature of the term, the term Land of Israel is used. Joel Greenberg, writing in the New York Times notes; ‘At Israel's founding in 1948, the Labor Zionist leadership, which went on to govern Israel in its first three decades of independence, accepted a pragmatic partition of what had been British Palestine into independent Jewish and Arab states. The opposition Revisionist Zionists, who evolved into today's Likud party, sought Eretz Yisrael Ha-Shlema -- Greater Israel, or literally, the Whole Land of Israel.[1] The capture of the West Bank and Gaza Strip from Jordan and Egypt during the Six Day War in 1967, led to the growth of the non-parliamentary Movement for Greater Israel and the construction of Israeli settlements. The 1977 elections, which brought Likud to power also had considerable impact on acceptance and rejection of the term. Greenberg notes: THE seed was sown in 1977, when Menachem Begin of Likud brought his party to power for the first time in a stunning election victory over Labor. A decade before, in the 1967 war, Israeli troops had in effect undone the partition accepted in 1948 by overrunning the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Ever since, Mr. Begin had preached undying loyalty to what he called Judea and Samaria (the West Bank lands) and promoted Jewish settlement there. But he did not annex the West Bank and Gaza to Israel after he took office, reflecting a recognition that absorbing the Palestinians could turn Israel into a bi-national state instead of a Jewish one.[1] Yitzhak Shamir was a dedicated proponent of Greater Israel and as Israeli Prime Minister gave the settler movement funding and Israeli governmental legitimisation.[2] Annexation of the Palestinian territories (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) is part of the platform of the Israeli Likud party, and of some other Israeli political parties.[3] On September 14, 2008 Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert remarked that "Greater Israel is over. There is no such thing. Anyone who talks that way is deluding themselves".[4] The same territory, "from the river to the sea", is also claimed as Palestine by the PLO[5] and Hamas.[6] Hillel Weiss, a professor at Bar-Ilan University, "preaches" the necessity of rebuilding the Temple and of Jewish rule over Greater Israel.[7][8][9]Rabbi Meir Kahane, assassinated Jewish leader and Knesset Member who founded the American Jewish Defense League and the Israeli Kach party worked towards this and other Religious Zionist goals. The website of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies has a page on the Geography of Israel containing a description of Israel's borders, including the following:- Egypt to the south and Jordan to the east. The map of Israel shows the West Bank simply as Samaria and Judea. The map notes that both Samaria and Judea were Under Jordanian Rule Until 1967.[10] On the website the Board of Deputies notes that it is the official elected representative roof-body of the Jewish Community in New South Wales,..[11] ↑Jump back a section Hide Promised Land Main article: Land of Israel See also: Promised Land Greater Israel occasionally refers to the Promised Land (defined in Genesis 15:18-21) or to the Land of Israel, and is also called Complete Land of Israel or "Entire Land of Israel" (Hebrew: ארץ ישראל השלמה‎, Eretz Yisrael Hashlemah). This is a more accurate translation than "Greater" Israel, which is used in English but has no real counterpart in Hebrew. The Bible contains three geographical definitions of the Land of Israel. The first, found in Genesis 15:18-21, seems to define the land that was given to all of the children of Abraham, including Ishmael, Zimran, Jokshan, Midian, etc. It describes a large territory, "from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates", comprising all of modern-day Israel, the Palestinian Territories, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq, as well as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, U.A.E, Oman, Yemen, most of Turkey, and all the land east of the Nile river. The other definitions are found in Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1-15, and Ezekiel 47:13-20. They describe smaller territories (see the map included in this article). The definition in Numbers and Ezekiel refers to the land that was divided between the original twelve tribes of Israel after they were delivered from Egypt, and finally, the borders defined in the book of Deuteronomy are those that will be given to the children of Israel slowly throughout the years (please see Exodus 23:29 & Deuteronomy 7:22). 10 Agorot coin controversy Main article: 10 Agorot controversy Zionists, and the State of Israel, have been accused of plotting to expand Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates. This so-called 10 Agorot controversy is named after the Israeli coin brandished by PLO chairman Yasser Arafat in 1988 as evidence for this accusation.[12] The Bank of Israel denies this claim and maintains the coin is a replica of historical coin dating from 37-40 BCE.[13] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16147520 United States05/16/2012 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15958119 But wait, there's more. [link to www.globalsecurity.org] Failure to believe Jewish wizdum is terrorism. |
| TXGal4Truth User ID: 1013398 United States05/16/2012 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS Last Edited by TXGal4Truth on 05/16/2012 08:45 PM So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16172451 United States05/16/2012 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS You can bet that greater Israel is in the Zionist's plans. It may take, 50 to 100 years but they are very patient and will keep up the pressure until they get what they want. It is how the tribe works. They just keep going no matter how long it takes. . |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14422899 United States05/16/2012 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS Anytime someone brings up palestine in efforts to make it credible has no credibility. Look back further in history and then look at newly discovered proof that that area belongs to the jewish people...and always will. You will find more proof of the Arabs trying to cover up for this than anything that can be spun contrary. Your arms are not long enough to box with God. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6543219 United States05/16/2012 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS Anytime someone brings up palestine in efforts to make it credible has no credibility. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14422899 Look back further in history and then look at newly discovered proof that that area belongs to the jewish people...and always will. You will find more proof of the Arabs trying to cover up for this than anything that can be spun contrary. Your arms are not long enough to box with God. You have it backwards. Israel is the synagogue of satan. If I fight Israel, I fight satan. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6543219 United States05/16/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219 I think TXShill4Israel is really an Iranian agent trying to create more 'antisemites'. She's doing a terrific job, too.  She/he/it certainly has a way of pissing people off. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 876310 United States05/17/2012 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS Greater Israel Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3741911 Greater Israel is a controversial expression with several different Biblical and political meanings over time. Currently, the most common definition of the land encompassed by the term is the territory of the State of Israel together with the Palestinian territories. Other earlier definitions, favored by Revisionist Zionism, included the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine (with or without Transjordan, which developed independently after 1923). Other religious uses refer to one of the Biblical definitions of the Land of Israel found in Genesis 15:18-21, Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1-15 or Ezekiel 47:13-20. The boundaries of the Land of Israel defined by Genesis 15:18-21 The boundaries of the Land of Israel defined by Ezekiel (blue line) and in the Torah (red line). Hide State of Israel, West Bank, and Gaza Strip Currently in Israel, in the debate relating to the borders of Israel, "Greater Israel" is generally used to refer to the territory of the State of Israel and the Palestinian territories, the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine. However, because of the controversial nature of the term, the term Land of Israel is used. Joel Greenberg, writing in the New York Times notes; ‘At Israel's founding in 1948, the Labor Zionist leadership, which went on to govern Israel in its first three decades of independence, accepted a pragmatic partition of what had been British Palestine into independent Jewish and Arab states. The opposition Revisionist Zionists, who evolved into today's Likud party, sought Eretz Yisrael Ha-Shlema -- Greater Israel, or literally, the Whole Land of Israel.[1] The capture of the West Bank and Gaza Strip from Jordan and Egypt during the Six Day War in 1967, led to the growth of the non-parliamentary Movement for Greater Israel and the construction of Israeli settlements. The 1977 elections, which brought Likud to power also had considerable impact on acceptance and rejection of the term. Greenberg notes: THE seed was sown in 1977, when Menachem Begin of Likud brought his party to power for the first time in a stunning election victory over Labor. A decade before, in the 1967 war, Israeli troops had in effect undone the partition accepted in 1948 by overrunning the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Ever since, Mr. Begin had preached undying loyalty to what he called Judea and Samaria (the West Bank lands) and promoted Jewish settlement there. But he did not annex the West Bank and Gaza to Israel after he took office, reflecting a recognition that absorbing the Palestinians could turn Israel into a bi-national state instead of a Jewish one.[1] Yitzhak Shamir was a dedicated proponent of Greater Israel and as Israeli Prime Minister gave the settler movement funding and Israeli governmental legitimisation.[2] Annexation of the Palestinian territories (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) is part of the platform of the Israeli Likud party, and of some other Israeli political parties.[3] On September 14, 2008 Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert remarked that "Greater Israel is over. There is no such thing. Anyone who talks that way is deluding themselves".[4] The same territory, "from the river to the sea", is also claimed as Palestine by the PLO[5] and Hamas.[6] Hillel Weiss, a professor at Bar-Ilan University, "preaches" the necessity of rebuilding the Temple and of Jewish rule over Greater Israel.[7][8][9]Rabbi Meir Kahane, assassinated Jewish leader and Knesset Member who founded the American Jewish Defense League and the Israeli Kach party worked towards this and other Religious Zionist goals. The website of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies has a page on the Geography of Israel containing a description of Israel's borders, including the following:- Egypt to the south and Jordan to the east. The map of Israel shows the West Bank simply as Samaria and Judea. The map notes that both Samaria and Judea were Under Jordanian Rule Until 1967.[10] On the website the Board of Deputies notes that it is the official elected representative roof-body of the Jewish Community in New South Wales,..[11] ↑Jump back a section Hide Promised Land Main article: Land of Israel See also: Promised Land Greater Israel occasionally refers to the Promised Land (defined in Genesis 15:18-21) or to the Land of Israel, and is also called Complete Land of Israel or "Entire Land of Israel" (Hebrew: ארץ ישראל השלמה‎, Eretz Yisrael Hashlemah). This is a more accurate translation than "Greater" Israel, which is used in English but has no real counterpart in Hebrew. The Bible contains three geographical definitions of the Land of Israel. The first, found in Genesis 15:18-21, seems to define the land that was given to all of the children of Abraham, including Ishmael, Zimran, Jokshan, Midian, etc. It describes a large territory, "from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates", comprising all of modern-day Israel, the Palestinian Territories, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq, as well as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, U.A.E, Oman, Yemen, most of Turkey, and all the land east of the Nile river. The other definitions are found in Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1-15, and Ezekiel 47:13-20. They describe smaller territories (see the map included in this article). The definition in Numbers and Ezekiel refers to the land that was divided between the original twelve tribes of Israel after they were delivered from Egypt, and finally, the borders defined in the book of Deuteronomy are those that will be given to the children of Israel slowly throughout the years (please see Exodus 23:29 & Deuteronomy 7:22). 10 Agorot coin controversy Main article: 10 Agorot controversy Zionists, and the State of Israel, have been accused of plotting to expand Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates. This so-called 10 Agorot controversy is named after the Israeli coin brandished by PLO chairman Yasser Arafat in 1988 as evidence for this accusation.[12] The Bank of Israel denies this claim and maintains the coin is a replica of historical coin dating from 37-40 BCE.[13] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1256231 United States05/17/2012 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15958119 better question, who is israel's g-d? sure looks alot like satan to me. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1256231 United States05/17/2012 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS I think TXShill4Israel is really an Iranian agent trying to create more 'antisemites'. She's doing a terrific job, too. She/he/it certainly has a way of pissing people off. ignorance has that effect. |
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| alisoleiman User ID: 16218486  Egypt05/17/2012 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israel Is currently occupying Palestine and part of Syria ,lebonon ,Jordan ,Egypt ---PLAN OF GREATER ISRAEL IS TAKING SHAPE FOLKS IS israeil is welcomed here. we waiting for them . it will be end of 2 of us . its not about courage . but we havnot any thing to lose . if they plan to ocuppy sinia again . we will go tel aviv whatever it will cost us . |
