Ultimate Hypocracy - Florida Rules Drug Testing Govt Workers Unconstitutional | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14150728 United States 04/26/2012 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're correct, OP. People on welfare can't afford drugs. But somehow some do - either by selling their food stamps or by robberies. Welfare recipients should be tested on a regular basis. Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain It's none of your business asshole. I think you should have hands amputated after first traffic violation . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13113519 United States 04/26/2012 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
IRQ_1 User ID: 1157608 United States 04/26/2012 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're correct, OP. People on welfare can't afford drugs. But somehow some do - either by selling their food stamps or by robberies. Welfare recipients should be tested on a regular basis. Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain It's none of your business asshole. I think you should have hands amputated after first traffic violation . Cool story bro. Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13113519 United States 04/26/2012 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your an idiot. So I guess you should have a chip implanted if you want to use currency with your thinking. Just keep on giving up liberties until we're totally locked down huh! Your a fucking tard, getting government money is NOT a liberty you dumb shit. If your on public assistance, you should be privy to drug testing. I live in Florida and know people who have been on welfare and used the welfare money to get food so they can use their food money for drugs. I'm tired of paying for freeloading drug addicts. You that stupid dude wtf do you call those fuckers with a Gov job the ultimate welfare damn you stupid cuz. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1554538 United States 04/27/2012 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1554538 United States 04/27/2012 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your an idiot. So I guess you should have a chip implanted if you want to use currency with your thinking. Just keep on giving up liberties until we're totally locked down huh! Your a fucking tard, getting government money is NOT a liberty you dumb shit. If your on public assistance, you should be privy to drug testing. I live in Florida and know people who have been on welfare and used the welfare money to get food so they can use their food money for drugs. I'm tired of paying for freeloading drug addicts. You that stupid dude wtf do you call those fuckers with a Gov job the ultimate welfare damn you stupid cuz. Sigh... It's not your and idiot. It's You're (you are) an idiot! Please continue on now! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1402512 United States 04/27/2012 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1554538 United States 04/27/2012 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're correct, OP. People on welfare can't afford drugs. But somehow some do - either by selling their food stamps or by robberies. Welfare recipients should be tested on a regular basis. Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain It's none of your business asshole. I think you should have hands amputated after first traffic violation . I don't think it's a matter of rather one feels they should be tested, but rather a matter of it being rulled as unconstitutional for govt workers and not for the people of the united states. You can't say one thing and do another. Treat everyone the same :D :grouphug: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1402512 United States 04/27/2012 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3936560 Your an idiot. So I guess you should have a chip implanted if you want to use currency with your thinking. Just keep on giving up liberties until we're totally locked down huh! Your a fucking tard, getting government money is NOT a liberty you dumb shit. If your on public assistance, you should be privy to drug testing. I live in Florida and know people who have been on welfare and used the welfare money to get food so they can use their food money for drugs. I'm tired of paying for freeloading drug addicts. You that stupid dude wtf do you call those fuckers with a Gov job the ultimate welfare damn you stupid cuz. Sigh... It's not your and idiot. It's You're (you are) an idiot! Please continue on now! I admire your attempt at corrections. Yet, even with you revisions, the post, in questiion, still make ZERO sense. |
NISA715 User ID: 8662631 United States 04/27/2012 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14822163 United States 04/27/2012 12:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my view there shouldn't be drug tests for public or private anything, but private institutions do have the right to require them. Public (government) institutions do not |
C,. User ID: 15117120 United States 04/27/2012 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe testing is a violation of my rights. What happened to the Constitution? What happened to America? If an employer has a reason to question your work or your mental state while at work, then that's different. By all means, they should investigate. Is this now a police state? WTF?????????? And it always boils down to money. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15079414 Australia 04/27/2012 01:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15079414 Australia 04/27/2012 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe testing is a violation of my rights. Quoting: C,. 15117120 What happened to the Constitution? What happened to America? If an employer has a reason to question your work or your mental state while at work, then that's different. By all means, they should investigate. Is this now a police state? WTF?????????? And it always boils down to money. It is of course but here many jobs have drug and alcohol testing, and im not talking about a breathalyser to see if you're drunk at work. Im talking blood and urine tests to see what you did on the weekend. Which is of course discrimination is in purest form. And the jobs im talking about are menial types of jobs not important ones. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1517659 Canada 04/27/2012 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck the Fucking Pigs and fuck the government they all need to get off their high horse. We need to take them down to our level. Lets knock them hypocrites down to our level. Take them down a notch Politicians are Scum Police are pigs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15093441 United States 04/27/2012 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
SHR Forum Administrator 04/27/2012 02:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a Federal Appeals court Judge ruling AGAINST florida ya nimrod... Where the fuck did you get that Florida govt rules drug testing unconstitutional bullshit from?.... Oh, you made it up I see.... ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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RTS REDUX User ID: 8620349 United States 04/27/2012 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Legalize Cannabis. Why are there two classes of people? The elite government types that can use cannabis... While the elites & tptb punishes everyone else for using cannabis. This should not be. I don't see why cannabis is illeagal, ecspecially when Barack Obama is snorting cocain, shooting up, and doing no telling what other kind of drugs everyday. ever noticed the shit eating grins most politicians sport nowadays? I guarantee it's not cannabis that makes them 'happy' the only politician I'd ever (maybe) trust is a person like Darrell Issa who usually just looks disgusted with the whole mess |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 04/27/2012 03:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the ultimate in your face hypocracy, the Florida govt has rules drug testing govt employees unconstitutional, stating it's violating the right of unreasonable search and seizure. Quoting: MadBob 15113491 MIAMI (AP) - A Miami federal judge has declared that Gov. Rick Scott's order requiring drug testing for state workers is unconstitutional. U.S. District Judge Ursula Ungaro ruled Thursday that blanket testing of some 85,000 workers violates the Fourth Amendment ban on unreasonable searches and seizures. [link to www.wtsp.com] yet, at the very same time.... Required drug tests for people seeking welfare benefits ended up costing taxpayers more than it saved and failed to curb the number of prospective applicants, data used against the state in an ongoing legal battle shows. The findings — that only 108 of the 4,086 people who took a drug test failed — are additional ammunition for the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida, which sued the state and won a temporary ban on the drug-testing program in October, said ACLU spokesman Derek Newton. Attorneys for the state immediately appealed the ban, and will face off against the ACLU again at the 11th Circuit Court in Atlanta and the U.S. District Court in Orlando in coming months. [link to www.miamiherald.com] Umm, duh. Poor people can't afford drugs. Here we have the same people saying that govt employees are protected by the constitution, but the people aren't? What a crock of shit! Wait a sec ... was this a ruling by the Supreme Court? Or just the highest court of FL? I ask because if it was the SCOTUS, then a precedent was just set that means ALL "on the job drug testing" is a violation of our 4th amendment protected rights, something I've said for quite some time. What's more, this should also include jobs gaining access to potential employee's tax records, credit reports and medical records. Recent reports stating that jobs are demanding passwords to people's social connection sites and such. This slippery slope has been going on long enough. In this economy, to hold the possibility of employment over someone's head to force them to waive their rights is DURESS. Last Edited by Sir Phydeau on 04/27/2012 03:18 AM "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 04/27/2012 03:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Government Statute Citizens have no rights, but are fictitious persons, created by common interest for the public trust. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7709473 This is more of their bullshit, trying to merge the corporate person (public official) into the same definition of a "living" person. Of course in doing so that fancifully and irresponsibly change the meanings of Maxims of Law. The day I see this drivel held up by the Supreme Court I'll buy into it. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 04/27/2012 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cops and politicians should be drug tested. But apparently, it's a violation of their rights. Um ... cops ARE tested. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15075723 United States 04/27/2012 04:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Didn't you know? Government workers are a "special" class of people. In fact, they are 1st class citizens, and you are a mere 2nd class (at best) citizen. Even though they are SUPPOSED to be our "servants", constitutionally. |
F F S User ID: 1430651 United Kingdom 04/27/2012 04:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe testing is a violation of my rights. Quoting: C,. 15117120 What happened to the Constitution? What happened to America? If an employer has a reason to question your work or your mental state while at work, then that's different. By all means, they should investigate. Is this now a police state? WTF?????????? And it always boils down to money. ditto to that, what i do or place in my body in my own time has fuck all to do with anyone else especially and including my employer and the guberment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2744068 United States 04/27/2012 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bring this ruling to the private sector and all shall be well. Everyone who says "I get tested, so should they" are complete retards. Your line of thought should be "suspicionless drug testing is a violation of my constitutional rights. Nobody should have to take suspicionless drug tests" For-cause, post-accident, and pre-employment tests are different, though. I see nothing wrong with them. |
F F S User ID: 1430651 United Kingdom 04/27/2012 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bring this ruling to the private sector and all shall be well. Everyone who says "I get tested, so should they" are complete retards. Your line of thought should be "suspicionless drug testing is a violation of my constitutional rights. Nobody should have to take suspicionless drug tests" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2744068 For-cause, post-accident, and pre-employment tests are different, though. I see nothing wrong with them. I suppose you think the TSA are keeping you safer as well, read my post above, it has fuck all to do with an employer what you do in your time, so no, they do not have the right |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15148625 United States 04/27/2012 06:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
ABDUL-RAHEEM User ID: 15173752 United States 04/27/2012 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i was locked up in FL back in the summer of 2011 i was hit with a dope case, a man named macrol vincent SHELTON came back on an appeal of FLoridas Drug Statue 893.13 his conviction was overturned becuz he challanged the constitutionallity on the law itself, it was ruled in his favor the supreme court heard it becuz they had 2 throw out ALOT OF DRUG CASES whether they were dead wrong or innocent i never heard the results but i beat a dope case bassed on that statue being ruled unconstitutional on its face |
ABDUL-RAHEEM User ID: 15173752 United States 04/27/2012 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it was challanging the constitutionallity of ALL drug charges from possesion,sales,manufacturing and TRAFFICKING they had 2 re write the law..... becuz they removed the work KNOWLEDGE from the statue goahead check it out FLA 893.13 |
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