Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 1,938 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 523,179
Pageviews Today: 758,759Threads Today: 196Posts Today: 4,120
07:18 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 15112303
United States
04/26/2012 06:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
ahhh

Approximately every 11 years the magnetic field on the sun reverses completely – the north magnetic pole switches to south, and vice versa. It’s as if a bar magnet slowly lost its magnetic field and regained it in the opposite direction, so the positive side becomes the negative side. But, of course, the sun is not a simple bar magnet and the causes of the switch, not to mention the complex tracery of moving magnetic fields throughout the eleven-year cycle, are not easy to map out.

Mapping such fields, however, is a crucial part of understanding how – and, in turn, when – the sun will exercise its next flip. This flip coincides with the greatest solar activity seen on the sun in any given cycle, known as "solar maximum."

While the cycle unfolds with seeming regularity every 11 years, in two upcoming papers scientists highlight just how asymmetrical this process actually is. Currently the polarity at the north of the sun appears to have decreased close to zero – that is, it seems to be well into its polar flip from magnetic north to south -- but the polarity at the south is only just beginning to decrease.

"Right now, there's an imbalance between the north and the south poles," says Jonathan Cirtain, a space scientist at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., who is also NASA's project scientist for a Japanese solar mission called Hinode. "The north is already in transition, well ahead of the south pole, and we don't understand why."

[link to www.nasa.gov]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 14841669
United Kingdom
04/26/2012 06:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
when they say something like 'we don't understand', think the EXACT OPPOSITE!
tarfonwxx

User ID: 14988183
Israel
04/26/2012 06:12 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7840805
United States
04/26/2012 06:15 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
when they say something like 'we don't understand', think the EXACT OPPOSITE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14841669


why?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 15117751
United Kingdom
04/26/2012 06:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
Currently the polarity at the north of the sun appears to have decreased close to zero – that is, it seems to be well into its polar flip from magnetic north to south -- but the polarity at the south is only just beginning to decrease.

What happened to the basic rules of magnetism, unless the laws of physics just changed & the Sun can be a magnetic monopole?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


They're either taking the piss or this is happening inside our Sun:

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

The weirdness continues...

blink
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 14841669
United Kingdom
04/26/2012 06:17 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
when they say something like 'we don't understand', think the EXACT OPPOSITE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14841669


why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7840805


because they know.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 15117751
United Kingdom
04/26/2012 06:22 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
Oh lordy!
Black holes as monopoles, local fluff, Galactic Ecliptic & Solar System transit, etc.

ahhh
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3115472
United States
04/26/2012 06:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
A stronger opposing magnet can flip the polarity of a weaker magnet. You can also make a magnet have a stronger north or south if it's in the vicinity of strong magnet.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7840805
United States
04/26/2012 06:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
when they say something like 'we don't understand', think the EXACT OPPOSITE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14841669


why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7840805


because they know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14841669



How do you know that?

This is something that will prove and also disprove a lot of current theory and modeling
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 15112303
United States
04/26/2012 06:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
A stronger opposing magnet can flip the polarity of a weaker magnet. You can also make a magnet have a stronger north or south if it's in the vicinity of strong magnet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3115472


But isn't the sun essentially one huge magnet?
So where is the second magnet causing the weirdness?
TBar1984

User ID: 13725461
United States
04/26/2012 06:27 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
Just because they can't tell you why something happens doesn't mean it's never happened before or is unusual. You left out this part, "Such adjustments to models are of course expected whenever new and better data is collected. Indeed, David Hathaway, who is a solar scientist at NASA's Marshall, and who is a co-author on the microwave observations paper with Gopalswamy, points out that the idea that asymmetries exist in the sun is not completely new. Other work has recently emphasized symptoms of this asymmetry, measuring, for example, more sunspots in the northern hemisphere than in the south at the moment. "But most of the well-developed models don't incorporate the asymmetry in them," Hathaway says. "More complicated models that incorporate asymmetries do exist, but they have other ways in which they fail to match observations."

That's CYA explaining why Hathaway's model doesn't use the 'asymmetries' when other current models do. I asked Dr Strong about it and he responded that Dr Strong himself confronted Hathaway about his models not using the asymmetries over three years ago...

Here is a article from 2003 saying those asymmetries are 'normal'.
A Star with two North Poles [link to science.nasa.gov]

"In fact, it's a fairly normal side-effect of the solar cycle." Every 11 years around solar maximum, the Sun's magnetic field goes haywire as the Sun's underlying magnetic dynamo reorganizes itself. The March 2000 event was simply a part of that upheaval..."

Normal indeed, it's described in a 1959 article [link to adsabs.harvard.edu] and another 2003 article 'Observations of the Sun’s magnetic field during the recent solar maximum' [link to www.ias.fr]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 14770674
United States
04/26/2012 06:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
what does this mesn for us?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3115472
United States
04/26/2012 06:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
The sun's matter is not a magnet, it's the substance circulating in the matter that is the real magnet. It's what holds the sun together. That same substance holds the Earth together too. The reason they don't understand is because what they learned in school was wrong. So they never had a true foundation of understanding.
Monbazillac

User ID: 8958455
France
04/26/2012 06:33 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
when they say something like 'we don't understand', think the EXACT OPPOSITE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14841669


lying again the liars are lying again banana2
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 15119741
United States
04/26/2012 06:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
Is this why there are 2 strange strips of sunspots going around the sun?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3115472
United States
04/26/2012 06:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
A stronger opposing magnet can flip the polarity of a weaker magnet. You can also make a magnet have a stronger north or south if it's in the vicinity of strong magnet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3115472


But isn't the sun essentially one huge magnet?
So where is the second magnet causing the weirdness?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15112303


That's the right question, but I don't know!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 15118269
Brazil
04/26/2012 06:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
The reason, in two words:


MUTATED NEUTRINOS


damned
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3115472
United States
04/26/2012 06:37 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
A stronger opposing magnet can flip the polarity of a weaker magnet. You can also make a magnet have a stronger north or south if it's in the vicinity of strong magnet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3115472


But isn't the sun essentially one huge magnet?
So where is the second magnet causing the weirdness?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15112303


That's the right question, but I don't know!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3115472


I could just be the collective push and pull of the planets in a specific alignment. An even that only happens every 13000 years. Just kidding. No I'm not. Yeah, just kidding.
Plane

User ID: 14899888
Norway
04/26/2012 06:39 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
Currently the polarity at the north of the sun appears to have decreased close to zero – that is, it seems to be well into its polar flip from magnetic north to south -- but the polarity at the south is only just beginning to decrease.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15117751


What happened to the basic rules of magnetism, unless the laws of physics just changed & the Sun can be a magnetic monopole?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


They're either taking the piss or this is happening inside our Sun:

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

The weirdness continues...

blink


antichrist?

the researchers, for the first time, attest that monopoles exist as emergent states of matter, i.e. they emerge from special arrangements of dipoles and are completely different from the constituents of the material.
 Quoting: sciencedaily.com
TBar1984

User ID: 13725461
United States
04/26/2012 06:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
what does this mesn for us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14770674


'Little Ice Age' (Maunder-Dalton) circulation patterns are emerging and more rapid world cooling is taking over.
[link to sc25.com]
""At the same time independent observers have noticed an increase in Little Ice Age type (Maunder-Dalton type) weather events and circulation patterns around the world such as more extreme hailstorms and cyclonic cold weather in Britain and Ireland with the Jet stream shifted well south... "
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 14770674
United States
04/26/2012 06:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
so there is anther magnet affecting the suns magnet.
Would a large incoming celestial body fit this scenario?
LaniJane

User ID: 15119838
United States
04/26/2012 06:45 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
The reason, in two words:


MUTATED NEUTRINOS


damned
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15118269


damned
"There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls." ~
George Carlin
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3115472
United States
04/26/2012 06:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
Currently the polarity at the north of the sun appears to have decreased close to zero – that is, it seems to be well into its polar flip from magnetic north to south -- but the polarity at the south is only just beginning to decrease.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15117751


What happened to the basic rules of magnetism, unless the laws of physics just changed & the Sun can be a magnetic monopole?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


They're either taking the piss or this is happening inside our Sun:

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

The weirdness continues...

blink
 Quoting: Plane


antichrist?

the researchers, for the first time, attest that monopoles exist as emergent states of matter, i.e. they emerge from special arrangements of dipoles and are completely different from the constituents of the material.
 Quoting: sciencedaily.com



There cannot be a true monopole, what they are describing is a cancellation effect created by the push and pull of the 'special arrangement'. Maillison discovered this in the 70's: See the Hallbach Array: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 908143
United States
04/26/2012 06:47 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
so there is anther magnet affecting the suns magnet.
Would a large incoming celestial body fit this scenario?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14770674


You get the cookie.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3115472
United States
04/26/2012 06:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
so there is anther magnet affecting the suns magnet.
Would a large incoming celestial body fit this scenario?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14770674


Yes it would, but not likely.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 14770674
United States
04/26/2012 06:53 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
so there is anther magnet affecting the suns magnet.
Would a large incoming celestial body fit this scenario?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14770674


Yes it would, but not likely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3115472


what kida answr is that? the anciest said it....its been WELL documented throughout the years despite mans stupidity and refusal to see. And now this.....I would say it is VERY likley....is there another scenario that anyone can think of? One more likley?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 15111872
Croatia
04/26/2012 06:53 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
Revelation of Jesus Christ
Menow
User ID: 2913051
United States
04/26/2012 06:55 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
what does this mesn for us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14770674


'Little Ice Age' (Maunder-Dalton) circulation patterns are emerging and more rapid world cooling is taking over.
[link to sc25.com]
""At the same time independent observers have noticed an increase in Little Ice Age type (Maunder-Dalton type) weather events and circulation patterns around the world such as more extreme hailstorms and cyclonic cold weather in Britain and Ireland with the Jet stream shifted well south... "
 Quoting: TBar1984


I'll take this opportunity to thank you for all your efforts and information, TBar.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 908143
United States
04/26/2012 06:55 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
so there is anther magnet affecting the suns magnet.
Would a large incoming celestial body fit this scenario?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14770674


Yes it would, but not likely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3115472


Very likely as most other star systems are composed of two, three and more members...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 14770674
United States
04/26/2012 06:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
so if the pole of a star changes to positive...and there are two positive poles....would it not begin to spin faster?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 14770674
United States
04/26/2012 06:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NASA: "We don't understand what's going on with the sun, why there's an imbalance between its north and south poles..."
bump

this needs a pin for more info

News