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Obama lawyers admit to LYING to SCOTUS to win a case

 
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Regrets, but no apology

Saying they had regrets, but without apologizing directly, the federal government’s lawyers have admitted to the Supreme Court that the partial victory they won in a case three years ago was based on flawed information they had given to the Court. They filed a letter Tuesday “in order to clarify and correct” that information. The Court need not do anything about it, the letter suggested.

The problem with the information, supplied in the 2009 case of Nken v. Holder (docket 08-681), was not turned up by the government. Rather, it turned up in a federal court in New York City when immigrants’ rights attorneys demanded an explanation for a policy statement on which the Supreme Court had relied in deciding the Nken case. The policy that the goverrment had told the Court existed apparently did not exist. (This controversy over what the Justices had been told by the government was discussed on this blog in this post in February.)

In the new letter to the Court, Deputy Solicitor General Michael R. Dreeben did not concede that the information provided in the government brief in that case was actually wrong. Rather, it said, the information was designed to “encapsulate” information gleaned within the government as the brief was being prepared. “The government,” the letter said, “should have provided a more complete and precise explanation.”

The Nken decision came down three years ago this month. Lately, the government had been resisting — in a federal District Court in New York City — the forced disclosure of an exchange of e-mails that supposedly was in the background of the information supplied to the Justices in Nken. The District judge had ordered the government to hand over at least parts of those e-mails, and the government earlier this month challenged that ruling in an appeal to the Second Circuit Court.
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Heh.
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All these people need to go to JAIL.
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Scotus? Can't you just say Supreme Court?
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All these people need to go to JAIL.
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And they never will do you know why?
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Isnt telling lies to a judge called PERJURY ? If they have openly admitted to it they should be charged and sentenced accordingly....unless you have a two tier system, one rule for the ruling class and another one for the general population, and that my friends is a dictatorship.
Add in the antics of the TSA, the FBI "creating" the terrorists they catch....where does it end ?
Or indeed has it already ended?
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This adminstration is collapsing hard...things could get ugly...and dangerous...
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It does seem that way and that is what makes it dangerous.
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Isnt telling lies to a judge called PERJURY ? If they have openly admitted to it they should be charged and sentenced accordingly....unless you have a two tier system, one rule for the ruling class and another one for the general population, and that my friends is a dictatorship.
Add in the antics of the TSA, the FBI "creating" the terrorists they catch....where does it end ?
Or indeed has it already ended?
 Quoting: ScepticalSam


No, it isn't. I can see the morons here know nothing about courts.
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This adminstration is collapsing hard...things could get ugly...and dangerous...
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Fools like you have said this since before Obama was in office. "Any. day. now."

This isn't a "collapse" of anything.
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This adminstration is collapsing hard...things could get ugly...and dangerous...
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Fools like you have said this since before Obama was in office. "Any. day. now."

This isn't a "collapse" of anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15145933


Oh Puleeze, have you looked out the basement window lately? This adminstration has had nothing BUT a conga line of either scandals or fuckups virtually non-stop for weeks now. It was steady since the beginning, but lately it's just been insane.
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Heh.
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Heh.
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Hey, he said it, not me. I'm just pointing it out since this story made me think of it. Not my fault he didn't keep his word.
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Scotus? Can't you just say Supreme Court?
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It's an American thing
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Isnt telling lies to a judge called PERJURY ? If they have openly admitted to it they should be charged and sentenced accordingly....unless you have a two tier system, one rule for the ruling class and another one for the general population, and that my friends is a dictatorship.
Add in the antics of the TSA, the FBI "creating" the terrorists they catch....where does it end ?
Or indeed has it already ended?
 Quoting: ScepticalSam


If you or I or any of the other little people lied in court and got caught at it, where do you think we'd be?
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Scotus? Can't you just say Supreme Court?
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It's an American thing
 Quoting: Chaos


Yes. We love our acronyms.

SCOTUS, CIA, FBI, KGB, NKVD etc.
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This adminstration is collapsing hard...things could get ugly...and dangerous...
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Let's pray there is no Kristallnacht.
They have already said that they do not need to listen to the congress.
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Scotus? Can't you just say Supreme Court?
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I was also wondering what the fuck the op was talking about.
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This adminstration is collapsing hard...things could get ugly...and dangerous...
 Quoting: SHR


Let's pray there is no Kristallnacht.
They have already said that they do not need to listen to the congress.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14881771


Kristallnacht?

And why are we dragging this into it????
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Heh.
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I understand the irony here but really, who cares who visited the White House? And he has to read THIS off of the Teleprompters.

Insane propoganda that is so easily bought by the sheople.
Everyone is so happy patting themselves on the back for achieving the U.S.'s first (half)black president, that all reason goes out the window.

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First time in the history of the US we get to know who visited the White House?

That's it, fuck Ron Paul, if I was american I'd be supporting Obama now and you should too.
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This adminstration is collapsing hard...things could get ugly...and dangerous...
 Quoting: SHR


Let's pray there is no Kristallnacht.
They have already said that they do not need to listen to the congress.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14881771


Kristallnacht?

And why are we dragging this into it????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15147819


Because the fuhrer in chief is leading us toward the 4th reich. I realize the Obamabots can't or won't see it, but those who are not blinded by the "anointed one's" messianic halo can see it clearly.
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This adminstration is collapsing hard...things could get ugly...and dangerous...
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Let's pray there is no Kristallnacht.
They have already said that they do not need to listen to the congress.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14881771


Kristallnacht?

And why are we dragging this into it????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15147819


He means another Reichstag fire / OKC, 911, 2008, traycon etc. etc.

Its a Roman thing, burn villages and crucify people as examples. Lie first - apologize later. The libs have it down pat.

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Let's pray there is no Kristallnacht.
They have already said that they do not need to listen to the congress.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14881771


Kristallnacht?

And why are we dragging this into it????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15147819


Because the fuhrer in chief is leading us toward the 4th reich. I realize the Obamabots can't or won't see it, but those who are not blinded by the "anointed one's" messianic halo can see it clearly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 851544


Which groups of people are enemies of the 4th Reich?
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Isnt telling lies to a judge called PERJURY ? If they have openly admitted to it they should be charged and sentenced accordingly....unless you have a two tier system, one rule for the ruling class and another one for the general population, and that my friends is a dictatorship.
Add in the antics of the TSA, the FBI "creating" the terrorists they catch....where does it end ?
Or indeed has it already ended?
 Quoting: ScepticalSam


If you or I or any of the other little people lied in court and got caught at it, where do you think we'd be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15147819


Mexico.
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Let's pray there is no Kristallnacht.
They have already said that they do not need to listen to the congress.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14881771


Kristallnacht?

And why are we dragging this into it????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15147819


Because the fuhrer in chief is leading us toward the 4th reich. I realize the Obamabots can't or won't see it, but those who are not blinded by the "anointed one's" messianic halo can see it clearly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 851544


Which groups of people are enemies of the 4th Reich?
 Quoting: Ms.Why


Most Americans that don't have their heads up their asses, for starters.

Thinking is terrorism. Don't do it. naughty
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This adminstration is collapsing hard...things could get ugly...and dangerous...
 Quoting: SHR


Fools like you have said this since before Obama was in office. "Any. day. now."

This isn't a "collapse" of anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15145933


Oh Puleeze, have you looked out the basement window lately? This adminstration has had nothing BUT a conga line of either scandals or fuckups virtually non-stop for weeks now. It was steady since the beginning, but lately it's just been insane.
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There was a rumor around the I-Net, Obama's wife was fucking a Secret Service Agent. This was long before the 11 SS Agents were fired.

Personally, I think Obama walked in on 11 Secret Service Agents fucking his wife. Explains why they were fired on the spot with out a good explanation.

Imagine that, his wife is a loose goose!
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Liars gonna lie



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Isnt telling lies to a judge called PERJURY ? If they have openly admitted to it they should be charged and sentenced accordingly....unless you have a two tier system, one rule for the ruling class and another one for the general population, and that my friends is a dictatorship.
Add in the antics of the TSA, the FBI "creating" the terrorists they catch....where does it end ?
Or indeed has it already ended?
 Quoting: ScepticalSam


No, it isn't. I can see the morons here know nothing about courts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15145933


how about instead of calling people morons, explain why you believe its not perjury. because in the U.S courts lying to a judge knowingly is perjury. if you for some reason don't believe it how about doing a little research for yourself, and then explain yourself. unless your argument is just to try to attack people.
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This government is illegitimate.
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This adminstration is collapsing hard...things could get ugly...and dangerous...
 Quoting: SHR


Fools like you have said this since before Obama was in office. "Any. day. now."

This isn't a "collapse" of anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15145933


Oh Puleeze, have you looked out the basement window lately? This adminstration has had nothing BUT a conga line of either scandals or fuckups virtually non-stop for weeks now. It was steady since the beginning, but lately it's just been insane.
 Quoting: SHR


There was a rumor around the I-Net, Obama's wife was fucking a Secret Service Agent. This was long before the 11 SS Agents were fired.

Personally, I think Obama walked in on 11 Secret Service Agents fucking his wife. Explains why they were fired on the spot with out a good explanation.

Imagine that, his wife is a loose goose!
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Imagine this -- people just make up speculations and act like they know everything. I think it is more likely you walked in on your wife fucking around.

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