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POLL: What do you believe?? Where DOES your spiritual allegiance lie?? Everyone has one!!

 
AtheistRepublican

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I'm an atheist until the clouds part and the flying spaghetti monster says hello!
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04/27/2012 12:18 PM
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Re: POLL: What do you believe?? Where DOES your spiritual allegiance lie?? Everyone has one!!
I believe god is all that is, and no religion is needed.

Only belief and faith.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6248700


This^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528419


Jesus passionately opposed religion.

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Re: POLL: What do you believe?? Where DOES your spiritual allegiance lie?? Everyone has one!!
FOR ALL my Catholic brothers and sisters...

please forgive me if I have offended you....

that was not my intention at all.

I tried to change the poll....but it wouldn't let me...

so please forgive me! In no way am I saying that you are not Christian....

I was just trying to point out the different religions...

again, my apologies.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Okay, that was classy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15089596


but the faux pas was enlightening...
Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream...
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04/27/2012 12:26 PM

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I try to learn from all religions, all spiritual practices, all philosophies.

Brought up Catholic, I found that lacking, moved on to Christian, then Bhuddist, then Zen, then Qabalist then Orthodox Hindu, then Sufi and on and on.

I was however able to come back to Christianity and see it in a new light later on but it's only a few pages, Jesus's actual words.

The Holy Spirit or Prana or Hare or my favorite term, Light, shines down upon all who seek and think about God, it's universal, certainly not exclusive to any one religion but rather incluse of all.

But I don't really like the term Religion, it has implications of shackles being placed upon you and restraints from seeking in other places. Threats against your immortal soul for simply seeking God in other religions are seriously damaging lies that are unfortunately, very effective as will be seen demonstrated by people on this very thread as they tell you you will burn in hell. Just Lovely, very loving.

One should ask him/herself "Am I RELIGIOUS because of fear of God/Hell or am I SPIRITUAL out of love for and joy from God?"

In the end it's very personal, it's between You and God. let no other tell you they can broker that relationship for you.

Today I participate in a Fraternity of open minded spiritual people, it's called The Golden Dawn and it's not a religion, it's way, way better, for me.

In LVX,

Frater

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Last Edited by Frater on 04/27/2012 02:31 PM
LVX!
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04/27/2012 12:29 PM
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I believe god is all that is, and no religion is needed.

Only belief and faith.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6248700


This^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528419


hf
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04/27/2012 12:30 PM
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I'm an atheist until the clouds part and the flying spaghetti monster says hello!
 Quoting: AtheistRepublican


The FSM(flying spaghetti monster)parody is an instance of intelligent design, but unjustified as it attributes properties to the designer which can not be inferred from biological complexity.

As a material object, extended in space and time- it can not be the cause of the Big Bang, because the CAUSE of the big bang has to exist BEYOND space and time and be the creator of all matter and energy in the universe.

So....the FSM parody does NOTHING to undercut the standard arguments for a trancendent creator.
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04/27/2012 12:31 PM
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When you know God, religion is not needed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 803433


Really, you know God?


Do any of you think you are religious? If you do not control your tongue, your religion is worthless and you deceive yourself. What God the Father considers to be pure and genuine religion is this: to take care of orphans and widows in their suffering and to keep oneself from being corrupted by the world.
(Jas 1:26-27)
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this is true
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I believe god is all that is, and no religion is needed.

Only belief and faith.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6248700


This^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528419


hf
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


In who or what?

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04/27/2012 12:39 PM
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goodnews

I'm a Born Again follower of the Lord Jesus Christ.By HIS GRACE and MERCY ONLY. I was a Catholic, but Jesus showed me His death on the cross was for MY salavtion. There was nothing I could do to add to His Holy Sacrfice. I judge no Catholic, or any one else, but I know I am a Christian.
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04/27/2012 12:41 PM

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FOR ALL my Catholic brothers and sisters...

please forgive me if I have offended you....

that was not my intention at all.

I tried to change the poll....but it wouldn't let me...

so please forgive me! In no way am I saying that you are not Christian....

I was just trying to point out the different religions...

again, my apologies.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Okay, that was classy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15089596


but the faux pas was enlightening...
 Quoting: Edge Rider


I'm not perfect....

that is for sure....

ohyeah
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04/27/2012 12:42 PM
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Satanist

Hail Lucifer!
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04/27/2012 12:46 PM
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you needed to add Ancient Alien Theroist :)
AmazingGRACE (OP)

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04/27/2012 12:46 PM

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Re: POLL: What do you believe?? Where DOES your spiritual allegiance lie?? Everyone has one!!
So far 79 people have voted 'OTHER'

we all need to continue seeking TRUTH....

with the days we live in,

it is vital that we find answers....

I cried out to JESUS....

and HE answered me.....

that was years ago....

and HE is still answering my prayers!

I have also seen HIM do miracles and I have also witnessed demons being casted out of people....

I have seen gifts of the SPIRIT

Just wanted to share that testimony!
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04/27/2012 12:57 PM

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My spiritual allegiance lies with 'spirituality' and no organized religion.

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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04/27/2012 01:03 PM
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Re: POLL: What do you believe?? Where DOES your spiritual allegiance lie?? Everyone has one!!
WHAT IS AT THE HEART OF GLPers??

WHERE DOES THEIR TRUE ALLEGIANCE LIE??




I am curious.....

I've been here for over a year now....

Why?



For 2 reasons....

ONE:

To warn people of the days we live in---Apocolypitic, prophetic, biblical times....

the beginning of the end....

and to point them to GOD through JESUS CHRIST



SECOND:

To encourage my brothers and sisters here





SOOOO.....


HERE IS THE QUESTION:

which one are you??

Christian??

Catholic??

Muslims??

Atheist??

Agnostic??

New Ager??

Buddist??

Hindu??

Satanist??

Black Magic??

Other?

IF OTHER....let us know what you mean.....thanks!


EDITED TO ADD:

FOR ALL my Catholic brothers and sisters...


I tried to change the poll....but it wouldn't let me...

so please forgive me! In no way am I saying that you are not Christian....

I was just trying to point out the different religions...

again, my apologies

peace,
ag

hf
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Catholics are not christian. I know because I once was a catholic. I prayed to Mary. Thanks to Lisa Lisa I now pray to the Heavenly Father through Jesus Christ. I have thrown out all my statues of Mary and I have put my rosary in the trash along with my prayer book. Thank you lisa lisa.
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04/27/2012 01:04 PM
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My soul fits no pigeon hole
No prefix or suffix will suffice
No ist, ian, ic, im OR ism.
No a, e, i,o, u

all prisons!

Belief systems are soothing surrogates for people who can't live with the mysteries of their own existence.
Yeah, that includes all belief variations from the emptiest atheist to those who pine over the absolute omniscient.


Know yourself
Do not lie to yourself about what you know or do not know.
No belief is necessary for what is.
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04/27/2012 01:06 PM
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I wont even bother answering your question, what do you mean everyone has a spiritual allegiance ? Thats typical brainwashed religitards, you really should wake up - its bullshit, designed to control people 2000 years ago and fools like you are still falling for this nonsense.
If there was a creator he'd have wiped the human species from this planet a long time ago for destroying everything else he made.
The biggest arguement against a "god" is humanity!
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04/27/2012 01:09 PM
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Other - my true heart cannot be listed.
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04/27/2012 01:11 PM
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Re: POLL: What do you believe?? Where DOES your spiritual allegiance lie?? Everyone has one!!
"Black" magic.

Well, just magic.

But without all the self righteous "white" or "black" nonsense.

It's more of a tool to accomplish my ends.

charlie
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04/27/2012 01:19 PM
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Re: POLL: What do you believe?? Where DOES your spiritual allegiance lie?? Everyone has one!!
I believe in God, the almighty creator.



Anything else I view as some sort of self, man, or nature worship.

Nothing comes before the creator.
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04/27/2012 01:20 PM
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All religions can die in a hole.
All are wrong and only divide us.
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04/27/2012 01:23 PM
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DRAKONS RULE
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I had to choose "other". The vast majority of modern Christians don't accept Torah observant believers hence, I don't feel I really am one these days.

Heh, ya'll might not want us, but He does.
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Other - my true heart cannot be listed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1221101


I like your answer. cool2

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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All religions can die in a hole.
All are wrong and only divide us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14816364


2000 years ago modern religion was started by a guy getting hung on a cross and to this day wars are being waged and people killed because of religion.
Thou shalt not kill.....f*cking hypocrites.
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04/27/2012 01:33 PM
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you left out none, you don't need religion in your life to know good and truth. all you need is a brain. i was raised in church as catholic and went to many other religions to educate myself about them. in a lot of them they would talk down about how someone else was doing something in their own life. stating that that church know what was better for them. which we all know is a bunch of crock. then i read all that i could about each one (yes it took time). getting information from both these churches and outside sources. it didn't take to long before i saw that most outside sources had the same views about all religions. and the religions had the same views about all others but their own. not in all cases, some churches had a little different view then a church of the same religion one town over. but in reading the religions one thing does stand out. a simple simple message hidden within pages and pages of half truths and lager fables. to just have a kind heart and be respectful to all.

but that has been lost for a long time. and it's sad.
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04/27/2012 01:34 PM
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historically, my family were JWs. my grandmother was convinced that she would see armageddon during her lifetime. she died at 95.

i was raised a JW and as a child and I was taught that the world would be ending in 1976. but, i would be in a better place? i dont recommend teaching your children that they will be dieing anytime soon...

when the JW thing didnt work out, my parents started shipping me off to some nazarene church on saturdays and sundays. i found out later it was so they could have lots of weekend sex...

its been science, of all things, that has helped me understand my creator better...
Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream...
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I'm an atheist until the clouds part and the flying spaghetti monster says hello!
 Quoting: AtheistRepublican

Wrong.
You will be an atheist until the moment you die.
Then, like Lucifer, all the rebel angels, and all
the lost souls down through history, you will be
a true believer.
But then it will be eternally too late.
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I'm an atheist until the clouds part and the flying spaghetti monster says hello!
 Quoting: AtheistRepublican


The FSM(flying spaghetti monster)parody is an instance of intelligent design, but unjustified as it attributes properties to the designer which can not be inferred from biological complexity.

As a material object, extended in space and time- it can not be the cause of the Big Bang, because the CAUSE of the big bang has to exist BEYOND space and time and be the creator of all matter and energy in the universe.

So....the FSM parody does NOTHING to undercut the standard arguments for a trancendent creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15138120


The "creator" is far more likely to be a computer programmer and what we think of reality is just a future advanced civilization running simulations... of when their previously STUPID ancestors believed in mythology.
The entire christian thing is just a rehash of ancient religions, and yet you laugh at people worshiping sun and moon gods - just as future people will laugh at people believing in a "creator". Its actually pretty sad that in this day and age some people need to cling on to ancient myths.
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I'm an atheist until the clouds part and the flying spaghetti monster says hello!
 Quoting: AtheistRepublican


The FSM(flying spaghetti monster)parody is an instance of intelligent design, but unjustified as it attributes properties to the designer which can not be inferred from biological complexity.

As a material object, extended in space and time- it can not be the cause of the Big Bang, because the CAUSE of the big bang has to exist BEYOND space and time and be the creator of all matter and energy in the universe.

So....the FSM parody does NOTHING to undercut the standard arguments for a trancendent creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15138120




dude? what the hell did you just say?

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