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POLL: What do you believe?? Where DOES your spiritual allegiance lie?? Everyone has one!!

 
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So, love isnt all you need?

Lol wowzers
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


No human has survived more than 3 days without water. So, yeah ... love is not all you need ... at least for more than 3 days, anyway.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


That is the physical sense of need.

We are refering to spiritual needs.

Love is the key component of any religion.

It is a key component to my non-religious lifestyle.
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


:D

I'm just trying to have a little fun on what's been a REALLY rough couple of days, brother.

I honestly mean no offense to anyone ... I'm just poking at holes for giggles.

Please don't be offended.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau



(Mark 8:38) Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.


(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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thankyou,,, that mean't a lot to me,,


i knew you was of good heart and kindness,,

and it was nice to feel your love expressed through your own words,,, thanks again,,

your correct, im very gentile, and of love,,,

i love my fellow man and wish the best for us all, yet i dislike the threat side of religions,, the control through fear, to me is not, of love,

the love i get and give comes from creator/source,, and its within me,,

i tend to find the point of scriptures, wether they be true or false, to be a fear based control mechanism, and not of the love i feel in my heart,

but im fully aware others follow the word to the rule and find it a comfort/a direct rule book, of sorts, however this is not my personel experience,,

ive always had this knowledge that evil often hides within human religious organisations, and, if its organised by a man
and his false words , then i will never follow it blindly,,

i hope ive not offended anyone,,

thanks again,,

much love,,

but i love you all
 Quoting: nobody 14851008



(1 John 2:22) Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.


(Revelation 21:8) But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


:(

Why would you post that in reply? I thought that was a very warm posting.

UK AC, I appreciate your kind words and hope you continue to share them.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau



(John 3:17-19) For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
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wow, threats, from loving folk,, hmmm

would a creator of worlds races ect ect harm his children in anyway whatsoever,, a creator of such greater superior knowledge feel the need to burn his children and make them suffer for enternity in a lake of ever burning fire,,,

these sound like mans words, threats, punishments, not a creator, whom creates through love,,

we are taught to forgive by the same scriptures, so why would a creator not lead by example?? hmmm,,

i smell a rat,,

is it not simply man's manipulation of the scripture to maintain control through a fear based mechanism,

makes more sense to me,,,

i have no fear, only love, and forgiveness, as does the true creator of all things,,


there is no hell,, there never was, only that created by man,,

get the irony,,

much love


look forward to your fear based threats of hell ect,,

i forgive you, in advance,, goodnight,,
 Quoting: nobody 14851008


God bears with this kind of drivel from His creations, forgives all of it, and hopes only that you will accept his free gift of salvation through his only son, Jesus Christ who was crucified for your sins...talk about a merciful, loving Creator.

Thank you Lord Jesus.
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The messages from Heaven and you believe prophecy A.G., have
said for years and the saints of the past, the Remnant is
Roman Catholic.


God is going to show this to you personally and then you
will have to decide to accept all of God's revelation and
to let go of belief in the heresies of the revolters.

Bible Alone, the Bible is my authority not the Church that gave me the Bible, Sola Fide, private interpretation of Scripture. Naming some of the heresies, all from the minds of men not God.

Here are more falsehoods to reject.
Declaring the Eucharist is just a symbol, a remembrance, the rejection of the Grace of all the Sacraments, etc.

Protestants remain "spiritual babies", each deciding their own salvation. They need the "grace" of God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, His presence in the most Holy Eucharist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14488282


Well the bible says:
''- paraphrase
""-quote
[apostles to Jesus] 'Master, we saw someone casting demons out in your name and we stopped him. [Jesus] Do not stop him, he who is not against us is for us'
Remind you of Catholics and Protestants?
Or
[people to Jesus] 'Your mother and brothers are here to see You master [Jesus] Who are my mother and brother? Those that do the will of God are my mother and brothers and sisters'
Reminds me of all the crummy sermons I ALMOST always hear at Catholic mass and how they DON"T do God's will and just let sin, pedophilia, abortion, porn, drugs, loving one's enemies just NEVER BE TALKED ABOUT AT THE PULPIT -OR- ADVice durring confession but how the Protestants regularly feed me with Godly advice on the subjects of life, even if it's not in the same persepective as an online truther, they're STILL doing God's will while my priest is making my face turn red with his -yes it's this bad so I use this word- Treason towards God by letting crap just go on all over the place and most priests won't say a word or much at all and nothing NEARLY as good as what a Protestant will say.
I'd rather have Godliness than 'technically' being under the pope who I used to think was in the line of those since Peter, but if You read around it seems that the Druids were the true Christians way back when, and Christianity was a warped version of that so that Rome could get a power grab on the religiosity of people. I'm more inclined to think that rather than that the Catholic church with all it's dribble about being right and all others wrong while CLEARLY they are letting Satan have a field day. Except for about 2 or 4 priests I've seen in my whole life going to about 10 churches in my life, they should all be demoted and replaced with people willing to speak GOD"S WORD not some happy dribble I get every time I hear a sermon. Protestant churches aren't NEARLY THAT BAD.

I will say that the Catholic church will put in it doctrines sequestered away safely where no one reads it like in Humane Vitae that contraception is wrong, medically it is abortion. WHy? I yanked my dad's medical textbook that says, as with all things human, it doesn't always work. Meaning you have "Breakthrough ovulations" so eggs DO COME OUT sometimes and WHEN THEY DO - the eggs meets with a bunch more mucus in the uterus than normal. So if you ahve sex, ovulate because the contraceptive messes up, and get pregnant, well to concieve 'medically' it has to implant. So the fact that it just washes down with the mucus means you have a fertilized egg, a child, that doesn't implant so 'medically' you didn't conceived when you REALLY DID and your baby dies in the toilet when it's 4 cells old. OR sometimes people get pregnant on birth control because the egg SOMEHOW makes it up to the womb, but my dad told me when I explained it to him like that, that he, as a Pediatrician, a child's doctor of some 30 years or so, 'yes son, actually when you show me all that I do see how contraceptive pills cause abortions'.

Protestants won't say that, Catholics really won't say that except for the hardcore ones, but they'll write it in big books and hide it away at least which is more than the Protestatns on that subject in particular. So sometimes it's good to read Catholic stuff. I still don't understand what I'm expecting teh priest to say at mass to make it worthwhile, I mainly go because of family and I'm hopeing that the Eucharist really is the Body and the wine the Blood of Jesus as it says in the Gospels at the last supper
[Jesus] 'Take this [bread] and eat, this is my body. .. Take this [wine] and drink, this is my blood of the new covenant'
Or maybe they just wrote that into the gospels when they were coming up with the 'version' of the scriptures they wanted us to have so they could control us and send us on crusades and have 100 years of war and murder all over Europe after Martin Luther plowed through and made for Protestantism.
THERE'S MORE TO THE STORY THAN CATHOLICS ARE THE ORIGINAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH BUB. READ UP ON IT. You'll save me some headache the next time you post!!
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My spiritual allegiance lays with the God of Unconditional Love.hf
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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No human has survived more than 3 days without water. So, yeah ... love is not all you need ... at least for more than 3 days, anyway.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


That is the physical sense of need.

We are refering to spiritual needs.

Love is the key component of any religion.

It is a key component to my non-religious lifestyle.
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


:D

I'm just trying to have a little fun on what's been a REALLY rough couple of days, brother.

I honestly mean no offense to anyone ... I'm just poking at holes for giggles.

Please don't be offended.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau



(Mark 8:38) Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.


(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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um ... k
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Re: POLL: What do you believe?? Where DOES your spiritual allegiance lie?? Everyone has one!!
its obvious that this site is riddled with those of evil intention,,

infact that's the exact reason im here,

its my job to weed them out,

antagonise them, reflect their falsehoods back upon them for all to see,,

yet its so easy as they stumble amoungst their lies, and reveal themselves, as to what they truly are,,

so carry on, and know this,,

rehabilitation is an option,, nothing is wasted ever, all has the chance of redemption,,

yet refuse this option and it may be your last oppertunity, as the conduit is closing,,

source,,
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I don’t follow the dogma of any religion--too much unnecessary ceremony. I believe in an almighty Creator Source, the energy that put everything into motion (The God of Creation/Genesis). But at the same time, I believe Yahushua was one who was closest to what I would consider “Christ consciousness”.

I believe in micro-evolution, or adaptation. I don’t believe we “evolved” from any other creature. I believe the DNA of earlier man was manipulated by some other beings (the gods referenced in the Bible after the Genesis). Because of this, I don’t believe we’re the only intelligent life forms in this existence.

I’m sure I don’t have it all figured out just yet, but I feel I’m getting closer.

hf
"...and we dance to the music that plays in our teeth..."

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My spiritual allegiance lays with the God of Unconditional Love.hf
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(Acts 4:10-12) Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
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The catagories are insulting/condescending. Would it have been so hard to list list Catholic and Protestant instead of implying that Catholics are not "Christian"?

Then there are Pentecostals -- that would have been interesting. And also, with current affairs being what they are (Mit Romney's run for president), it would have been fun to see how many Mormons there are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6387633


the poll only gives 12 choices....

I put Catholic as separate because they have their own rituals apart from Protestants...

I wasn't trying to leave anyone out....

there just wasn't enough room....


you could start a poll with only 'Christian-type' faiths/religions....

this one is just more basic.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


"Soon" says Heaven, you will decide to convert, I hope
pray you do. Right now...

Too bad, so sad, amazing grace, Protestantism is heresy, you all rejected the true faith.

Everything you know of Christ came from the faith, Roman Catholicism.

You are going to have to convert soon, the "awakening"
God Himself is going to try to persuade you with your own
personal NDE type life review. Until you accept the Real Presence, you will forever remain a "spiritual baby."

Proof, denying the authority of the Church Jesus established
while at very same time, naming the Bible, a Catholic
book, your new authority!! Makes no sense, it's all protesting Martin Luther could come up with.

"Bible Alone", everything of God's revelation is written in Scripture, everyone can interpret Scripture, ALL heresy.




How the Canon of the Bible (the official catalogue of inspired books) was officially declared.


All books that were considered for the Cannon, but not included were called Apocrypha, and thus declared not inspired.

362 A.D. Catholic Church's Council of Rome defines the Canon of Holy Scripture.
382 Pope Damasus issues a listing of the present OT and NT Canon of 73 books
383 Saint Jerome translates the Latin Vulgate from Greek & Hebrew
393 Council of Hippo (North Africa) approves the present Canon of 73 books
397 Council of Constantinople produces first bound Bible (the Vulgate: previously, all
were separate books)
397 Council of Carthage (North Africa) approves the same OT and NT canon
405 Pope Saint Innocent I approves the Canon again and closes it (with 73 books)
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The messages from Heaven and you believe prophecy A.G., have
said for years and the saints of the past, the Remnant is
Roman Catholic.


God is going to show this to you personally and then you
will have to decide to accept all of God's revelation and
to let go of belief in the heresies of the revolters.

Bible Alone, the Bible is my authority not the Church that gave me the Bible, Sola Fide, private interpretation of Scripture. Naming some of the heresies, all from the minds of men not God.

Here are more falsehoods to reject.
Declaring the Eucharist is just a symbol, a remembrance, the rejection of the Grace of all the Sacraments, etc.

Protestants remain "spiritual babies", each deciding their own salvation. They need the "grace" of God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, His presence in the most Holy Eucharist.
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This is the most shocking suggestion i have ever heard of....it even beats darwins fantasy.
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I don’t follow the dogma of any religion--too much unnecessary ceremony. I believe in an almighty Creator Source, the energy that put everything into motion (The God of Creation/Genesis). But at the same time, I believe Yahushua was one who was closest to what I would consider “Christ consciousness”.

I believe in micro-evolution, or adaptation. I don’t believe we “evolved” from any other creature. I believe the DNA of earlier man was manipulated by some other beings (the gods referenced in the Bible after the Genesis). Because of this, I don’t believe we’re the only intelligent life forms in this existence.

I’m sure I don’t have it all figured out just yet, but I feel I’m getting closer.

hf
 Quoting: MrCash



The Bible never calls God "Creator Source" nor does it say anything about "Christ consciousness." Jesus also does not say he was closest to anything.

(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


(1 John 2:22) Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.


(Romans 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
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who created jesus?

exactly,, ?
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The messages from Heaven and you believe prophecy A.G., have
said for years and the saints of the past, the Remnant is
Roman Catholic.


God is going to show this to you personally and then you
will have to decide to accept all of God's revelation and
to let go of belief in the heresies of the revolters.

Bible Alone, the Bible is my authority not the Church that gave me the Bible, Sola Fide, private interpretation of Scripture. Naming some of the heresies, all from the minds of men not God.

Here are more falsehoods to reject.
Declaring the Eucharist is just a symbol, a remembrance, the rejection of the Grace of all the Sacraments, etc.

Protestants remain "spiritual babies", each deciding their own salvation. They need the "grace" of God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, His presence in the most Holy Eucharist.
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This is the most shocking suggestion i have ever heard of....it even beats darwins fantasy.
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Sorry...Ref " The catholic church is the Remnant" THERE'S 2 BILLION OF THEM WORSHIPPING HORUS
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to whom did jesus pray too?
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OF COURSE...........you never mentioned GNOSTICISM,the truth about this evil world in which we are trapped
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which arts did solomen teach jesus?
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aus 153,, your mind is your trap, as is your definate belief within this reality,,
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It's easy to have faith when you are stupid.
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The messages from Heaven and you believe prophecy A.G., have
said for years and the saints of the past, the Remnant is
Roman Catholic.


God is going to show this to you personally and then you
will have to decide to accept all of God's revelation and
to let go of belief in the heresies of the revolters.

Bible Alone, the Bible is my authority not the Church that gave me the Bible, Sola Fide, private interpretation of Scripture. Naming some of the heresies, all from the minds of men not God.

Here are more falsehoods to reject.
Declaring the Eucharist is just a symbol, a remembrance, the rejection of the Grace of all the Sacraments, etc.

Protestants remain "spiritual babies", each deciding their own salvation. They need the "grace" of God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, His presence in the most Holy Eucharist.
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Well the bible says:
''- paraphrase
""-quote
[apostles to Jesus] 'Master, we saw someone casting demons out in your name and we stopped him. [Jesus] Do not stop him, he who is not against us is for us'
Remind you of Catholics and Protestants?
Or
[people to Jesus] 'Your mother and brothers are here to see You master [Jesus] Who are my mother and brother? Those that do the will of God are my mother and brothers and sisters'
Reminds me of all the crummy sermons I ALMOST always hear at Catholic mass and how they DON"T do God's will and just let sin, pedophilia, abortion, porn, drugs, loving one's enemies just NEVER BE TALKED ABOUT AT THE PULPIT -OR- ADVice durring confession but how the Protestants regularly feed me with Godly advice on the subjects of life, even if it's not in the same persepective as an online truther, they're STILL doing God's will while my priest is making my face turn red with his -yes it's this bad so I use this word- Treason towards God by letting XXX just go on all over the place and most priests won't say a word or much at all and nothing NEARLY as good as what a Protestant will say.
I'd rather have Godliness than 'technically' being under the pope who I used to think was in the line of those since Peter, but if You read around it seems that the Druids were the true Christians way back when, and Christianity was a warped version of that so that Rome could get a power grab on the religiosity of people. I'm more inclined to think that rather than that the Catholic church with all it's dribble about being right and all others wrong while CLEARLY they are letting Satan have a field day. Except for about 2 or 4 priests I've seen in my whole life going to about 10 churches in my life, they should all be demoted and replaced with people willing to speak GOD"S WORD not some happy dribble I get every time I hear a sermon. Protestant churches aren't NEARLY THAT BAD.

I will say that the Catholic church will put in it doctrines sequestered away safely where no one reads it like in Humane Vitae that contraception is wrong, medically it is abortion. WHy? I yanked my dad's medical textbook that says, as with all things human, it doesn't always work. Meaning you have "Breakthrough ovulations" so eggs DO COME OUT sometimes and WHEN THEY DO - the eggs meets with a bunch more mucus in the uterus than normal. So if you ahve sex, ovulate because the contraceptive messes up, and get pregnant, well to concieve 'medically' it has to implant. So the fact that it just washes down with the mucus means you have a fertilized egg, a child, that doesn't implant so 'medically' you didn't conceived when you REALLY DID and your baby dies in the toilet when it's 4 cells old. OR sometimes people get pregnant on birth control because the egg SOMEHOW makes it up to the womb, but my dad told me when I explained it to him like that, that he, as a Pediatrician, a child's doctor of some 30 years or so, 'yes son, actually when you show me all that I do see how contraceptive pills cause abortions'.

Protestants won't say that, Catholics really won't say that except for the hardcore ones, but they'll write it in big books and hide it away at least which is more than the Protestatns on that subject in particular. So sometimes it's good to read Catholic stuff. I still don't understand what I'm expecting teh priest to say at mass to make it worthwhile, I mainly go because of family and I'm hopeing that the Eucharist really is the Body and the wine the Blood of Jesus as it says in the Gospels at the last supper
[Jesus] 'Take this [bread] and eat, this is my body. .. Take this [wine] and drink, this is my blood of the new covenant'
Or maybe they just wrote that into the gospels when they were coming up with the 'version' of the scriptures they wanted us to have so they could control us and send us on crusades and have 100 years of war and murder all over Europe after Martin Luther plowed through and made for Protestantism.
THERE'S MORE TO THE STORY THAN CATHOLICS ARE THE ORIGINAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH BUB. READ UP ON IT. You'll save me some headache the next time you post!!
 Quoting: Johnston12


You show such reverence and knowledge of the faith.

"stuff"

Life begins at conception not implantation.

One of the inventors of the "pill" condemns it now. It
causes an abortion of a newly conceived human person with
a body and a soul. It is an abortifacient.


Come home, I think you will very soon.
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My soul fits no pigeon hole
No prefix or suffix will suffice
No ist, ian, ic, im OR ism.
No a, e, i,o, u

all prisons!

Belief systems are soothing surrogates for people who can't live with the mysteries of their own existence.
Yeah, that includes all belief variations from the emptiest atheist to those who pine over the absolute omniscient.


Know yourself
Do not lie to yourself about what you know or do not know.
No belief is necessary for what is.
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Yes.
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I don’t follow the dogma of any religion--too much unnecessary ceremony. I believe in an almighty Creator Source, the energy that put everything into motion (The God of Creation/Genesis). But at the same time, I believe Yahushua was one who was closest to what I would consider “Christ consciousness”.

I believe in micro-evolution, or adaptation. I don’t believe we “evolved” from any other creature. I believe the DNA of earlier man was manipulated by some other beings (the gods referenced in the Bible after the Genesis). Because of this, I don’t believe we’re the only intelligent life forms in this existence.

I’m sure I don’t have it all figured out just yet, but I feel I’m getting closer.

hf
 Quoting: MrCash



The Bible never calls God "Creator Source" nor does it say anything about "Christ consciousness." Jesus also does not say he was closest to anything.

(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


(1 John 2:22) Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.


(Romans 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


"Creator Source" and "Christ Consciousness" are terms I use to define the Creator and His greatest pupil. You calling me out for not using the terminology specifically stated in your written and rewritten and rewritten scripture is exactly the dogma that drove me from seminary.
"...and we dance to the music that plays in our teeth..."

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The messages from Heaven and you believe prophecy A.G., have
said for years and the saints of the past, the Remnant is
Roman Catholic.


God is going to show this to you personally and then you
will have to decide to accept all of God's revelation and
to let go of belief in the heresies of the revolters.

Bible Alone, the Bible is my authority not the Church that gave me the Bible, Sola Fide, private interpretation of Scripture. Naming some of the heresies, all from the minds of men not God.

Here are more falsehoods to reject.
Declaring the Eucharist is just a symbol, a remembrance, the rejection of the Grace of all the Sacraments, etc.

Protestants remain "spiritual babies", each deciding their own salvation. They need the "grace" of God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, His presence in the most Holy Eucharist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14488282


Well the bible says:
''- paraphrase
""-quote
[apostles to Jesus] 'Master, we saw someone casting demons out in your name and we stopped him. [Jesus] Do not stop him, he who is not against us is for us'
Remind you of Catholics and Protestants?
Or
[people to Jesus] 'Your mother and brothers are here to see You master [Jesus] Who are my mother and brother? Those that do the will of God are my mother and brothers and sisters'
Reminds me of all the crummy sermons I ALMOST always hear at Catholic mass and how they DON"T do God's will and just let sin, pedophilia, abortion, porn, drugs, loving one's enemies just NEVER BE TALKED ABOUT AT THE PULPIT -OR- ADVice durring confession but how the Protestants regularly feed me with Godly advice on the subjects of life, even if it's not in the same persepective as an online truther, they're STILL doing God's will while my priest is making my face turn red with his -yes it's this bad so I use this word- Treason towards God by letting XXX just go on all over the place and most priests won't say a word or much at all and nothing NEARLY as good as what a Protestant will say.
I'd rather have Godliness than 'technically' being under the pope who I used to think was in the line of those since Peter, but if You read around it seems that the Druids were the true Christians way back when, and Christianity was a warped version of that so that Rome could get a power grab on the religiosity of people. I'm more inclined to think that rather than that the Catholic church with all it's dribble about being right and all others wrong while CLEARLY they are letting Satan have a field day. Except for about 2 or 4 priests I've seen in my whole life going to about 10 churches in my life, they should all be demoted and replaced with people willing to speak GOD"S WORD not some happy dribble I get every time I hear a sermon. Protestant churches aren't NEARLY THAT BAD.

I will say that the Catholic church will put in it doctrines sequestered away safely where no one reads it like in Humane Vitae that contraception is wrong, medically it is abortion. WHy? I yanked my dad's medical textbook that says, as with all things human, it doesn't always work. Meaning you have "Breakthrough ovulations" so eggs DO COME OUT sometimes and WHEN THEY DO - the eggs meets with a bunch more mucus in the uterus than normal. So if you ahve sex, ovulate because the contraceptive messes up, and get pregnant, well to concieve 'medically' it has to implant. So the fact that it just washes down with the mucus means you have a fertilized egg, a child, that doesn't implant so 'medically' you didn't conceived when you REALLY DID and your baby dies in the toilet when it's 4 cells old. OR sometimes people get pregnant on birth control because the egg SOMEHOW makes it up to the womb, but my dad told me when I explained it to him like that, that he, as a Pediatrician, a child's doctor of some 30 years or so, 'yes son, actually when you show me all that I do see how contraceptive pills cause abortions'.

Protestants won't say that, Catholics really won't say that except for the hardcore ones, but they'll write it in big books and hide it away at least which is more than the Protestatns on that subject in particular. So sometimes it's good to read Catholic stuff. I still don't understand what I'm expecting teh priest to say at mass to make it worthwhile, I mainly go because of family and I'm hopeing that the Eucharist really is the Body and the wine the Blood of Jesus as it says in the Gospels at the last supper
[Jesus] 'Take this [bread] and eat, this is my body. .. Take this [wine] and drink, this is my blood of the new covenant'
Or maybe they just wrote that into the gospels when they were coming up with the 'version' of the scriptures they wanted us to have so they could control us and send us on crusades and have 100 years of war and murder all over Europe after Martin Luther plowed through and made for Protestantism.
THERE'S MORE TO THE STORY THAN CATHOLICS ARE THE ORIGINAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH BUB. READ UP ON IT. You'll save me some headache the next time you post!!
 Quoting: Johnston12


You show such reverence and knowledge of the faith.

"stuff"

Life begins at conception not implantation.

One of the inventors of the "pill" condemns it now. It
causes an abortion of a newly conceived human person with
a body and a soul. It is an abortifacient.


Come home, I think you will very soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14488282


Oh yeah, that's Mary alright. At least I'm pretty sure, anyway.

hi

What is an abortifacient? I'm not sure that's even a word.

EDIT TO ADD: Google reveals it is indeed a word ... I just learned something new!

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The messages from Heaven and you believe prophecy A.G., have
said for years and the saints of the past, the Remnant is
Roman Catholic.


God is going to show this to you personally and then you
will have to decide to accept all of God's revelation and
to let go of belief in the heresies of the revolters.

Bible Alone, the Bible is my authority not the Church that gave me the Bible, Sola Fide, private interpretation of Scripture. Naming some of the heresies, all from the minds of men not God.

Here are more falsehoods to reject.
Declaring the Eucharist is just a symbol, a remembrance, the rejection of the Grace of all the Sacraments, etc.

Protestants remain "spiritual babies", each deciding their own salvation. They need the "grace" of God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, His presence in the most Holy Eucharist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14488282


Well the bible says:
''- paraphrase
""-quote
[apostles to Jesus] 'Master, we saw someone casting demons out in your name and we stopped him. [Jesus] Do not stop him, he who is not against us is for us'
Remind you of Catholics and Protestants?
Or
[people to Jesus] 'Your mother and brothers are here to see You master [Jesus] Who are my mother and brother? Those that do the will of God are my mother and brothers and sisters'
Reminds me of all the crummy sermons I ALMOST always hear at Catholic mass and how they DON"T do God's will and just let sin, pedophilia, abortion, porn, drugs, loving one's enemies just NEVER BE TALKED ABOUT AT THE PULPIT -OR- ADVice durring confession but how the Protestants regularly feed me with Godly advice on the subjects of life, even if it's not in the same persepective as an online truther, they're STILL doing God's will while my priest is making my face turn red with his -yes it's this bad so I use this word- Treason towards God by letting crap just go on all over the place and most priests won't say a word or much at all and nothing NEARLY as good as what a Protestant will say.
I'd rather have Godliness than 'technically' being under the pope who I used to think was in the line of those since Peter, but if You read around it seems that the Druids were the true Christians way back when, and Christianity was a warped version of that so that Rome could get a power grab on the religiosity of people. I'm more inclined to think that rather than that the Catholic church with all it's dribble about being right and all others wrong while CLEARLY they are letting Satan have a field day. Except for about 2 or 4 priests I've seen in my whole life going to about 10 churches in my life, they should all be demoted and replaced with people willing to speak GOD"S WORD not some happy dribble I get every time I hear a sermon. Protestant churches aren't NEARLY THAT BAD.

I will say that the Catholic church will put in it doctrines sequestered away safely where no one reads it like in Humane Vitae that contraception is wrong, medically it is abortion. WHy? I yanked my dad's medical textbook that says, as with all things human, it doesn't always work. Meaning you have "Breakthrough ovulations" so eggs DO COME OUT sometimes and WHEN THEY DO - the eggs meets with a bunch more mucus in the uterus than normal. So if you ahve sex, ovulate because the contraceptive messes up, and get pregnant, well to concieve 'medically' it has to implant. So the fact that it just washes down with the mucus means you have a fertilized egg, a child, that doesn't implant so 'medically' you didn't conceived when you REALLY DID and your baby dies in the toilet when it's 4 cells old. OR sometimes people get pregnant on birth control because the egg SOMEHOW makes it up to the womb, but my dad told me when I explained it to him like that, that he, as a Pediatrician, a child's doctor of some 30 years or so, 'yes son, actually when you show me all that I do see how contraceptive pills cause abortions'.

Protestants won't say that, Catholics really won't say that except for the hardcore ones, but they'll write it in big books and hide it away at least which is more than the Protestatns on that subject in particular. So sometimes it's good to read Catholic stuff. I still don't understand what I'm expecting teh priest to say at mass to make it worthwhile, I mainly go because of family and I'm hopeing that the Eucharist really is the Body and the wine the Blood of Jesus as it says in the Gospels at the last supper
[Jesus] 'Take this [bread] and eat, this is my body. .. Take this [wine] and drink, this is my blood of the new covenant'
Or maybe they just wrote that into the gospels when they were coming up with the 'version' of the scriptures they wanted us to have so they could control us and send us on crusades and have 100 years of war and murder all over Europe after Martin Luther plowed through and made for Protestantism.
THERE'S MORE TO THE STORY THAN CATHOLICS ARE THE ORIGINAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH BUB. READ UP ON IT. You'll save me some headache the next time you post!!
 Quoting: Johnston12


Want irony? The EXACT same thing can and does happen when a woman is pregnant.

So, is being pregnant also a form of abortion?
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
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Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10.

Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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the creator forgives, those that are entrencehed within false religious dogma,, as the wisdom is infinate, by design

the same creator that created all,,

the creator is of love,,

the creator would never threaten nor harm his children,

only false endoctrines would threaten children with the false belief of hell,,

its funny really, how easily man has been manipulated through fear by other men who pertain to know the truth and be at one with god,,, even though they know that they will forgiven upon redemption by creator,

yet they are so quick to condemm those who are truly of good heart/nature, simply because they fear losing their own power/control,,

source,,
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the creator, created man,

man created religion,




who created jesus?

who did jesus pray too?

which arts did solomen teach jesus?

is your faith blind?

i love all, jesus , man , animals , fish ect ,

and i will bow down willingly to the fact,

yet im bonded directly to the creator,

if no man can get to the creator other than through jesus, why exactly is this? because jesus somehow did?

and then how did jesus do this? that no other man can?

afterall he was a man was he not?,

and if the creator created jesus, did he not also create all of us aswell,,or was jesus's dad another seperate creator, if so why more than one creator,, are we not all his sons,, sons of the creator,,

so why can i not get directly to the creator as he did?,

makes no sense, whatsoever, as im already connected through source to the creator,,


sorry about that,,
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Spiritually resides in one's being....

Religion resides in the mouth of others and the ears of followers...

Be your own temple and follow your heart & mind. It was blessed upon you for a reason.

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Jesus is the only born son of God. He lived a perfect life, gave up his life to redeem those who would repent of their sins and believe in him, and He arose from the grave in victory over death.

I follow Jesus the Christ/Messiah. Christ is the Greek word for anointed one, the equivalent of the Hebrew word Messiah which is the one who will come. Jesus is the fulfillment of prophesy as the anointed one who will come. The definition of the word Christian is follower of Christ. That's me. Any questions?
 Quoting: Resister


This is the biggest LIE in christianity. Everyone who can think, whether born or angel is a Son of God. He did not give up his life. HE was MURDERED. No one can redeem you except you. Not any other person can bear your own karma or educate your mind FOR YOU.

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