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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8597527 United States 04/27/2012 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All 35,000 translations of it? Really? I'm not a big fan of worshiping the collection of books dictated by the Roman Catholic Council of Nicea. Not only that but, the King James version bible (falsely sworn by born again christians to be authentically God's word) was rewritten by King James who was a pedophile and also a freemason. He rewrote the bible in his favor as a government document to control the people. And you wonder why so many born agains quote Romans 13, I'm sorry but what fools! This is a logical assumption, but the Bible just contains so much language about not worshiping any worldly authority like a king or priest. I don't see why any of TPTB would have sanctioned that kind of language. The bible overwhelmingly rejects any supreme authority of any government or other man made establishment. That's one of the reasons I believe it is really God's word, and not some propaganda that man devised. It rejects man's authority completely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1626866 United States 04/27/2012 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All 35,000 translations of it? Really? I'm not a big fan of worshiping the collection of books dictated by the Roman Catholic Council of Nicea. Not only that but, the King James version bible (falsely sworn by born again christians to be authentically God's word) was rewritten by King James who was a pedophile and also a freemason. He rewrote the bible in his favor as a government document to control the people. And you wonder why so many born agains quote Romans 13, I'm sorry but what fools! This is a logical assumption, but the Bible just contains so much language about not worshiping any worldly authority like a king or priest. I don't see why any of TPTB would have sanctioned that kind of language. The bible overwhelmingly rejects any supreme authority of any government or other man made establishment. That's one of the reasons I believe it is really God's word, and not some propaganda that man devised. It rejects man's authority completely. Romans 13 disagrees with what you just said. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11988438 United States 04/27/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gnostic Agnostic here because of personal gnosis received and an inability to understand other "religious" viewpoints other than my own and realizing no one will get mine either. I'm also Discordian in the spiritual sense that I agree with the principles of order and disorder being tools of both creation and destruction. There's 7 billions spiritual allegiances across the world, not even zealots agreeing on every detail. So by grouping and labeling one as this or that, especially a REAL this or that, I do society as a whole a great disservice. Including me. Forget my first paragraph and label me "no comment", lol. |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 04/27/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All 35,000 translations of it? Really? I'm not a big fan of worshiping the collection of books dictated by the Roman Catholic Council of Nicea. Not to mention that there are quite a few books "missing"...oops...I just mentioned it! Book of Enoch possibly being the biggest travesty. That's one awesome piece of work. However, it didn't lend itself to the Councils ulterior motives. Hence, it was left out. Sad really when you consider that it's actually mentioned in other books that were included. You'd think that would lend to it's credibility substantially. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15162327 United Kingdom 04/27/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So far 79 people have voted 'OTHER' Quoting: AmazingGRACE we all need to continue seeking TRUTH.... with the days we live in, it is vital that we find answers.... I cried out to JESUS.... and HE answered me..... that was years ago.... and HE is still answering my prayers! I have also seen HIM do miracles and I have also witnessed demons being casted out of people.... I have seen gifts of the SPIRIT Just wanted to share that testimony! You're hearing voices ? Get yourself along to your doctor for some anti psychotic meds. |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 04/27/2012 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sir Phydeau All 35,000 translations of it? Really? I'm not a big fan of worshiping the collection of books dictated by the Roman Catholic Council of Nicea. Not only that but, the King James version bible (falsely sworn by born again christians to be authentically God's word) was rewritten by King James who was a pedophile and also a freemason. He rewrote the bible in his favor as a government document to control the people. And you wonder why so many born agains quote Romans 13, I'm sorry but what fools! This is a logical assumption, but the Bible just contains so much language about not worshiping any worldly authority like a king or priest. I don't see why any of TPTB would have sanctioned that kind of language. The bible overwhelmingly rejects any supreme authority of any government or other man made establishment. That's one of the reasons I believe it is really God's word, and not some propaganda that man devised. It rejects man's authority completely. Romans 13 disagrees with what you just said. Well, that doesn't matter. the author of Romans (Saul of Tarsus) has no right nor authority to over-ride YHWH or Yahushua. Anyone that thinks he does is a complete idiot happily skipping to their own destruction. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States 04/27/2012 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All 35,000 translations of it? Really? I'm not a big fan of worshiping the collection of books dictated by the Roman Catholic Council of Nicea. The King James Bible was meticulously transcribed through scholars by the Holy Ghost and is virtually identical to the Dead Sea Scrolls. Almighty God is perfectly capable of preserving His Word. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States 04/27/2012 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will be singing a different tune when standing before the judgment seat of your Creator, Jesus Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491 Just as man crucified Him in the flesh 2000 years ago, man continues to crucify Him today by rejecting His Word. before jesus teleports me to hell, i will request of him "jesus, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." (Galatians 6:7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States 04/27/2012 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The catagories are insulting/condescending. Would it have been so hard to list list Catholic and Protestant instead of implying that Catholics are not "Christian"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6387633 Then there are Pentecostals -- that would have been interesting. And also, with current affairs being what they are (Mit Romney's run for president), it would have been fun to see how many Mormons there are. Very insulting yes. Catholic is a Faith of the Christian Religion. OP should have named the first one "Born Again Christian", because that is what she is referring to. Catholicism is pure idolatry abomination unto God according to His Word. (Matthew 23:9) And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1626866 United States 04/27/2012 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13332604 Not only that but, the King James version bible (falsely sworn by born again christians to be authentically God's word) was rewritten by King James who was a pedophile and also a freemason. He rewrote the bible in his favor as a government document to control the people. And you wonder why so many born agains quote Romans 13, I'm sorry but what fools! This is a logical assumption, but the Bible just contains so much language about not worshiping any worldly authority like a king or priest. I don't see why any of TPTB would have sanctioned that kind of language. The bible overwhelmingly rejects any supreme authority of any government or other man made establishment. That's one of the reasons I believe it is really God's word, and not some propaganda that man devised. It rejects man's authority completely. Romans 13 disagrees with what you just said. Well, that doesn't matter. the author of Romans (Saul of Tarsus) has no right nor authority to over-ride YHWH or Yahushua. Anyone that thinks he does is a complete idiot happily skipping to their own destruction. Ok I agree with that. But you said the bible rejects government authority, and that is 100% wrong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States 04/27/2012 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Went for Agnostic.. but dunno now.. could be Athiest.. other, spiritual, or if I think there's a God.. it wouldn't be the 'religious God.'... Quoting: computer says no I'm leaning towards the existence of a supreme Godhead..simply cos.. 'Who made all this anyway?!' (Genesis 1:1) "In the begining God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:31) And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 3:17) And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; |
nobody User ID: 14851008 United Kingdom 04/27/2012 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i believe in humans beings being able to trangress beyound all labels of religion and arguments with regards to any/all religions, and to simply learn to love each other, as sisters and brothers, and forgive those that aspire to control the rest of humanity through falsehood and deception ,, my belief is that humans are wonderful creatures capable of so much love, kindness, warmth, empathy and compassion, that they should know better, than to to wish to disagree through ego based emotions as to whom's beliefs are greater and more infinately just, or, correct,,, we are all here together, so quit judging, labelling,, and posting threads to encite people to look for our differences, when we should instead, be realising our simularities,, cause lets face it,, we are all happy when sharing love,, and all sad when sharing hate,, simple really, is it not? much love,, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States 04/27/2012 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8597527 This is a logical assumption, but the Bible just contains so much language about not worshiping any worldly authority like a king or priest. I don't see why any of TPTB would have sanctioned that kind of language. The bible overwhelmingly rejects any supreme authority of any government or other man made establishment. That's one of the reasons I believe it is really God's word, and not some propaganda that man devised. It rejects man's authority completely. Romans 13 disagrees with what you just said. Well, that doesn't matter. the author of Romans (Saul of Tarsus) has no right nor authority to over-ride YHWH or Yahushua. Anyone that thinks he does is a complete idiot happily skipping to their own destruction. Ok I agree with that. But you said the bible rejects government authority, and that is 100% wrong. (Matthew 4:4) But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Yes, man is to obey the government EXCEPT where the government goes against any other command of God. (Mark 12:30) And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States 04/27/2012 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i believe in humans beings being able to trangress beyound all labels of religion and arguments with regards to any/all religions, and to simply learn to love each other, as sisters and brothers, and forgive those that aspire to control the rest of humanity through falsehood and deception ,, Quoting: nobody 14851008 my belief is that humans are wonderful creatures capable of so much love, kindness, warmth, empathy and compassion, that they should know better, than to to wish to disagree through ego based emotions as to whom's beliefs are greater and more infinately just, or, correct,,, we are all here together, so quit judging, labelling,, and posting threads to encite people to look for our differences, when we should instead, be realising our simularities,, cause lets face it,, we are all happy when sharing love,, and all sad when sharing hate,, simple really, is it not? much love,, There is no "love, kindness, warmth, empathy and compassion" without the Creator of it, Jesus Christ. Our Creator has made it very simple: (John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States 04/27/2012 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no "allegiance". Quoting: Captain Spaulding 14985884 I like to mix and match from different sages. Buddha, Black Elk, the Christ, the Dalai Lama, Frank Zappa, William Blake, ICP, etc... Awesome....we can learn something from many sources. You will be singing a different tune when standing before the judgment seat of your Creator, Jesus Christ. Just as man crucified Him in the flesh 2000 years ago, man continues to crucify Him today by rejecting His Word. (Deuteronomy 6:14) Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you If Jesus was next to you right now, he'd slap you in the face and format your hard drive. Scripture to support your claim? (2 Timothy 4:2-5) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. (1 Corinthians 1:18) For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. |
nobody User ID: 14851008 United Kingdom 04/27/2012 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i guess you missed my point,,, you read what i said, yet seem to have ignored its meaning completely,, by quoting scripture, you are seperating yourself from your brother whom may beielve in a different scripture than yourself, as he does you,,, please look deeper within ,, i wish not to be told of scriptures, tell me in your own words the love you feel for your brothers and sisters,, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8597527 United States 04/27/2012 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok I agree with that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1626866 But you said the bible rejects government authority, and that is 100% wrong. I said that, and all throughout the Bible it says all authority is below God. Worshiping any authority higher than God is forbidden. Even in Romans 13 it is very clear that any rulers are subject to God's will. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States 04/27/2012 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe in God. I consider myself a Christian. I have however, come away from Religiosity. Quoting: CuriosityCat1 I saw so many folks struggling with sin. These folks needed to know that there was a power greater then themselves, that there was unconditional love for ALL Sinners, and that God loved them. Yet, time after time, they heard judgmental Christians telling them they were sinning and they were going to hell. I had been deeply involved in ministry. I begin to notice that some Christians are the nastiest, most hateful people in the world. In studying the bible I could never find a place where Jesus told people they were going to hell. Lets take the woman at the well, for instance. Jesus could have said, "You are a whore, who is going to hell! Repent so you will be with me in paradise!" No, he discerned, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, what was going on with her. He kindly told her, that she was trying to fill the hole in her heart with "men" and relationships when what she needed was relationship with HIM. Then he walked away, he didn't say, "This is your last chance! Repent." People are in these suits of flesh, until the day we die the best Christian amongst us will be tempted. I recently studied the Jewish teaching on the 13 attributes of Mercy. Some of the judgmental ones here, need to look them up and do the study. Moses was given these at the time he received the "tablets." Over and Over again they speak of God's mercy. The 10th or 11th one is interesting in that God tells Moses that there is punishment, but after punishment is Mercy. These 13 attributes are still recited on special Jewish Holiday. Some of you act as if you never sin. You need to quit talking love and start showing love. You need to learn that God is merciful. Judgment sounds ugly and it looks ugly, and it gives God a bad name. You catch the fish, and let HIM clean them up. I could go on and on. I could talk about all these ministers who live like royalty, while their congregation is made to feel guilty for not tithing. My thought on that? If they have such faith themselves, they would take the tithes one month out of the year and divide them amongst the congregation, and then try living on FAITH themselves. (Matthew 15:8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. (John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 8:24) I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 04/27/2012 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8597527 This is a logical assumption, but the Bible just contains so much language about not worshiping any worldly authority like a king or priest. I don't see why any of TPTB would have sanctioned that kind of language. The bible overwhelmingly rejects any supreme authority of any government or other man made establishment. That's one of the reasons I believe it is really God's word, and not some propaganda that man devised. It rejects man's authority completely. Romans 13 disagrees with what you just said. Well, that doesn't matter. the author of Romans (Saul of Tarsus) has no right nor authority to over-ride YHWH or Yahushua. Anyone that thinks he does is a complete idiot happily skipping to their own destruction. Ok I agree with that. But you said the bible rejects government authority, and that is 100% wrong. *wonders when he started to resemble an AC* I don't recall ever making that claim. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States 04/27/2012 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i guess you missed my point,,, you read what i said, yet seem to have ignored its meaning completely,, Quoting: nobody 14851008 by quoting scripture, you are seperating yourself from your brother whom may beielve in a different scripture than yourself, as he does you,,, please look deeper within ,, i wish not to be told of scriptures, tell me in your own words the love you feel for your brothers and sisters,, (1 Corinthians 1:18) For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. (Matthew 23:33) Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? |
Edge Rider User ID: 1377922 United States 04/27/2012 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will be singing a different tune when standing before the judgment seat of your Creator, Jesus Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491 Just as man crucified Him in the flesh 2000 years ago, man continues to crucify Him today by rejecting His Word. before jesus teleports me to hell, i will request of him "jesus, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." (Galatians 6:7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. would you be disappointed to know that my life is wonderful? Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream... [link to en.wikipedia.org] / [link to www.youtube.com] |
nobody User ID: 14851008 United Kingdom 04/27/2012 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do you wish to be fools ?,, i want to here your own words,, YOUR OWN WORDS,, why you love each other,, ,, My Words,,, I feel you are all great, way beyound definition,, ive witnessed kindness that's brought me to tears, so much love, that ive jumped with joy,,, the weakest helping the strongest and forgiving the evils of all others,,, So this is why I love you all,,, |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 04/27/2012 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then perhaps you should start a thread on it instead of trying to hijack and control a thread that is not yours. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States 04/27/2012 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will be singing a different tune when standing before the judgment seat of your Creator, Jesus Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491 Just as man crucified Him in the flesh 2000 years ago, man continues to crucify Him today by rejecting His Word. before jesus teleports me to hell, i will request of him "jesus, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." (Galatians 6:7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. would you be disappointed to know that my life is wonderful? According to the Word of God, this is a tell tale sign that one is not saved. (John 15:19-20) If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you (2 Timothy 3:12) Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. |
11.11.11 User ID: 14501125 United States 04/27/2012 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just spiritual ! ! ! ! ! V Spirituality is the opposite of religion, religion is a substitute for spirituality. Spirituality is a direct connection to Creator The Most high. Anyone who inflicts pain on others will suffer themself from that pain. Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil. |
nobody User ID: 14851008 United Kingdom 04/27/2012 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bless you,, you are funny,, i will leave you alone to continue your, 'my religions better than yours' thread,, my apologies, i was mistaken for thinking this was a place of free speach and learning for those that are truly of love and without judgement,, enjoy your arguments, may they bring you closer to love/truth please excuse my sarcasm much love,, |