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POLL: What do you believe?? Where DOES your spiritual allegiance lie?? Everyone has one!!

 
Kirk

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America is a Christian nation in name only.
75% profess Christianity, but their behaviors
are anything but Christian.
Abortion, pornography, drug abuse, alcoholism,
adultery, murder, thievery...
Every evil you can imagine abounds in America
more than any other place on Earth.

The Lord's judgment is about to fall on America,
and when it does, the entire planet will be shaken.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15148246


^this^
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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bless you,, you are funny,, i will leave you alone to continue your, 'my religions better than yours' thread,,

my apologies, i was mistaken for thinking this was a place of free speach and learning for those that are truly of love and without judgement,,


enjoy your arguments, may they bring you closer to love/truth

please excuse my sarcasm


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 14851008


Wait, you admit to sarcasm ... but get your panties in a bunch when others also enjoy a little sarcasm themselves?

Wow, hypocrite troll is a hypocrite.
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
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Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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America is a Christian nation in name only.
75% profess Christianity, but their behaviors
are anything but Christian.
Abortion, pornography, drug abuse, alcoholism,
adultery, murder, thievery...
Every evil you can imagine abounds in America
more than any other place on Earth.

The Lord's judgment is about to fall on America,
and when it does, the entire planet will be shaken.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15148246


^this^
 Quoting: Kirk


applause2
EvenT6HorizoN

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In terms of human origin, I tend to lean towards to Ancient Astronaut theory. But spiritually I'm a Pagan but I'm also agnostic if that makes sense.
 Quoting: TheGirlinBlack


Agnostic will cover your bases. In my opinion, with the information I have obtained, humans are quite conceded and tend to think we have all the anwers.

I can say that a lot of people of professed religions are usually deeply out of touch with humanity and what this life actually consists of.

Example:
It isnt even common knowledge to most that there is a black hole in the center of our galaxy.

How can one say they are spiritually settled if one does not even know ones place in the universe, or that one even exists in a universe.

I'm, by far, not claiming to know everything, but what I do know is people settle too easily as an excuse not to research any topics in general.

Peace and love to all afro
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Follower of Jesus / Yeshua
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bless you,, you are funny,, i will leave you alone to continue your, 'my religions better than yours' thread,,

my apologies, i was mistaken for thinking this was a place of free speach and learning for those that are truly of love and without judgement,,


enjoy your arguments, may they bring you closer to love/truth

please excuse my sarcasm


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 14851008


If you love someone, you tell them the truth, and of the only way of salvation from the damnation of hell.


(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


If you hate someone, you preach like the the devil's Beatles do and give them a false sense of security that leads to hell: "All you need is love."
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Jesus is the only born son of God. He lived a perfect life, gave up his life to redeem those who would repent of their sins and believe in him, and He arose from the grave in victory over death.

I follow Jesus the Christ/Messiah. Christ is the Greek word for anointed one, the equivalent of the Hebrew word Messiah which is the one who will come. Jesus is the fulfillment of prophesy as the anointed one who will come. The definition of the word Christian is follower of Christ. That's me. Any questions?
 Quoting: Resister


The Christ isn't the Hebrew messiah. He does not represent YHVH.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15156879


Yes actuall. He is and He does.

Daniel 9:25
“So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again, with plaza and moat, even in times of distress.”

Mathew 1:16
“The record of the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah, the son of David, the son of Abraham: was the father of Isaac, Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers. Judah was the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, Perez was the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram. Ram was the father of Amminadab, Amminadab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon. Salmon was the father of Boaz by Rahab, Boaz was the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse. Jesse was the father of David the king.

David was the father of Solomon by Bathsheba who had been the wife of Uriah. Solomon was the father of Rehoboam, Rehoboam the father of Abijah, and Abijah the father of Asa. Asa was the father of Jehoshaphat, Jehoshaphat the father of Joram, and Joram the father of Uzziah. Uzziah was the father of Jotham, Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz the father of Hezekiah. Hezekiah was the father of Manasseh, Manasseh the father of Amon, and Amon the father of Josiah. Josiah became the father of Jeconiah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.

After the deportation to Babylon: Jeconiah became the father of Shealtiel, and Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel. Zerubbabel was the father of Abihud, Abihud the father of Eliakim, and Eliakim the father of Azor. Azor was the father of Zadok, Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim the father of Eliud. Eliud was the father of Eleazar, Eleazar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob. Jacob was the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, by whom Jesus was born, who is called the Messiah.”

John 4:25-26
“The woman said to Him, “I know that Messiah is coming (He who is called Christ); when that One comes, He will declare all things to us.” Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am He.”

Mathew 16:13-17
“Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.” He *said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.
 Quoting: Resister


What do the words of Nicea justify? What even gives these words any authority, a church?
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bless you,, you are funny,, i will leave you alone to continue your, 'my religions better than yours' thread,,

my apologies, i was mistaken for thinking this was a place of free speach and learning for those that are truly of love and without judgement,,


enjoy your arguments, may they bring you closer to love/truth

please excuse my sarcasm


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 14851008


If you love someone, you tell them the truth, and of the only way of salvation from the damnation of hell.


(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


If you hate someone, you preach like the the devil's Beatles do and give them a false sense of security that leads to hell: "All you need is love."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


So, love isnt all you need?

Lol wowzers
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bless you,, you are funny,, i will leave you alone to continue your, 'my religions better than yours' thread,,

my apologies, i was mistaken for thinking this was a place of free speach and learning for those that are truly of love and without judgement,,


enjoy your arguments, may they bring you closer to love/truth

please excuse my sarcasm


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 14851008


If you love someone, you tell them the truth, and of the only way of salvation from the damnation of hell.


(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


If you hate someone, you preach like the the devil's Beatles do and give them a false sense of security that leads to hell: "All you need is love."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


So, love isnt all you need?

Lol wowzers
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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire

"Some feel the rain, others just get wet" - Bob Marley
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The messages from Heaven and you believe prophecy A.G., have
said for years and the saints of the past, the Remnant is
Roman Catholic.


God is going to show this to you personally and then you
will have to decide to accept all of God's revelation and
to let go of belief in the heresies of the revolters.

Bible Alone, the Bible is my authority not the Church that gave me the Bible, Sola Fide, private interpretation of Scripture. Naming some of the heresies, all from the minds of men not God.

Here are more falsehoods to reject.
Declaring the Eucharist is just a symbol, a remembrance, the rejection of the Grace of all the Sacraments, etc.

Protestants remain "spiritual babies", each deciding their own salvation. They need the "grace" of God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, His presence in the most Holy Eucharist.
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Re: POLL: What do you believe?? Where DOES your spiritual allegiance lie?? Everyone has one!!
WHAT IS AT THE HEART OF GLPers??

WHERE DOES THEIR TRUE ALLEGIANCE LIE??



I tried to change the poll....but it wouldn't let me...

so please forgive me! In no way am I saying that you are not Christian....

I was just trying to point out the different religions...

again, my apologies

peace,
ag

hf
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I send demons back to Hell.

All demons.

From ANY religion.

A demon... is a demon...is a demon...

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bless you,, you are funny,, i will leave you alone to continue your, 'my religions better than yours' thread,,

my apologies, i was mistaken for thinking this was a place of free speach and learning for those that are truly of love and without judgement,,


enjoy your arguments, may they bring you closer to love/truth

please excuse my sarcasm


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 14851008


If you love someone, you tell them the truth, and of the only way of salvation from the damnation of hell.


(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


If you hate someone, you preach like the the devil's Beatles do and give them a false sense of security that leads to hell: "All you need is love."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


subliminal in the band title

Beatles

Be-A-t-Less

t - christian cross


got that from another GLP'er, not sure if it's true but seems a pretty big coincidence otherwise seeing that Beatles is obviously satanic influence.
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I have no "allegiance".

I like to mix and match from different sages. Buddha, Black Elk, the Christ, the Dalai Lama, Frank Zappa, William Blake, ICP, etc...
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 14985884


Awesome....we can learn something from many sources.
 Quoting: ohhappydays



You will be singing a different tune when standing before the judgment seat of your Creator, Jesus Christ.

Just as man crucified Him in the flesh 2000 years ago, man continues to crucify Him today by rejecting His Word.



(Deuteronomy 6:14) Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you
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If Jesus was next to you right now, he'd slap you in the face and format your hard drive.
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ROFLMAO!!!!laugh
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bless you,, you are funny,, i will leave you alone to continue your, 'my religions better than yours' thread,,

my apologies, i was mistaken for thinking this was a place of free speach and learning for those that are truly of love and without judgement,,


enjoy your arguments, may they bring you closer to love/truth

please excuse my sarcasm


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 14851008


If you love someone, you tell them the truth, and of the only way of salvation from the damnation of hell.


(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


If you hate someone, you preach like the the devil's Beatles do and give them a false sense of security that leads to hell: "All you need is love."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


So, love isnt all you need?

Lol wowzers
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


No human has survived more than 3 days without water. So, yeah ... love is not all you need ... at least for more than 3 days, anyway.
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
Real men keep Torah.
Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10.

Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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its ok ,,

i forgive you,,

im wrong to engage your holy superior knowledge,,

im so sorry,, i mean it,,

all are more worthy than me,,

can you equally apologise??

it would be kind if you could?

as your spirit must be more capable of humbleness than my own

much love,,
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The messages from Heaven and you believe prophecy A.G., have
said for years and the saints of the past, the Remnant is
Roman Catholic.


God is going to show this to you personally and then you
will have to decide to accept all of God's revelation and
to let go of belief in the heresies of the revolters.

Bible Alone, the Bible is my authority not the Church that gave me the Bible, Sola Fide, private interpretation of Scripture. Naming some of the heresies, all from the minds of men not God.

Here are more falsehoods to reject.
Declaring the Eucharist is just a symbol, a remembrance, the rejection of the Grace of all the Sacraments, etc.

Protestants remain "spiritual babies", each deciding their own salvation. They need the "grace" of God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, His presence in the most Holy Eucharist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14488282


Mary, is that you?
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
Real men keep Torah.
Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10.

Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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its ok ,,

i forgive you,,

im wrong to engage your holy superior knowledge,,

im so sorry,, i mean it,,

all are more worthy than me,,

can you equally apologise??

it would be kind if you could?

as your spirit must be more capable of humbleness than my own

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 14851008


Wow, someone's feeling are crushed.

Calm down!

If it makes you feel any better ... I apologize if my playful nature has somehow offended your precious heart made of glass.

That's the best you're gonna get from me.
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
Real men keep Torah.
Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10.

Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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I believe in God. I consider myself a Christian. I have however, come away from Religiosity.

I saw so many folks struggling with sin. These folks needed to know that there was a power greater then themselves, that there was unconditional love for ALL Sinners, and that God loved them. Yet, time after time, they heard judgmental Christians telling them they were sinning and they were going to hell.

I had been deeply involved in ministry. I begin to notice that some Christians are the nastiest, most hateful people in the world.

In studying the bible I could never find a place where Jesus told people they were going to hell. Lets take the woman at the well, for instance. Jesus could have said, "You are a whore, who is going to hell! Repent so you will be with me in paradise!"

No, he discerned, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, what was going on with her. He kindly told her, that she was trying to fill the hole in her heart with "men" and relationships when what she needed was relationship with HIM.

Then he walked away, he didn't say, "This is your last chance! Repent."

People are in these suits of flesh, until the day we die the best Christian amongst us will be tempted.

I recently studied the Jewish teaching on the 13 attributes of Mercy. Some of the judgmental ones here, need to look them up and do the study. Moses was given these at the time he received the "tablets." Over and Over again they speak of God's mercy. The 10th or 11th one is interesting in that God tells Moses that there is punishment, but after punishment is Mercy. These 13 attributes are still recited on special Jewish Holiday.

Some of you act as if you never sin. You need to quit talking love and start showing love. You need to learn that God is merciful.

Judgment sounds ugly and it looks ugly, and it gives God a bad name. You catch the fish, and let HIM clean them up.

I could go on and on. I could talk about all these ministers who live like royalty, while their congregation is made to feel guilty for not tithing. My thought on that? If they have such faith themselves, they would take the tithes one month out of the year and divide them amongst the congregation, and then try living on FAITH themselves.
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1



(Matthew 15:8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.


(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


(John 8:24) I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491

Did you read a thing I wrote? Where did Jesus EVER tell a person they were going to hell? You will not find it.

Some may go to hell, but not because Jesus cursed them to hell.

You turned around and did just what I warned about. You quoted scripture, without a bit of love regarding sinners.

You are guilty of the sin of looking for a splinter in someone's eye, and neglecting the BOARD in your own.

"Preach the gospel always, If necessary use words." ~ St. Francis of Assisi.

If you like words, remember these "Judge not, Lest ye be Judged."
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before jesus teleports me to hell, i will request of him "jesus, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing."
 Quoting: Edge Rider



(Galatians 6:7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


would you be disappointed to know that my life is wonderful?
 Quoting: Edge Rider


According to the Word of God, this is a tell tale sign that one is not saved.


(John 15:19-20) If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you


(2 Timothy 3:12) Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491



well, no im not "saved" because i dont subscribe to that. i meet my persecutors head on. things can still be wonderful even tho life is challenging...
Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream...
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bless you,, you are funny,, i will leave you alone to continue your, 'my religions better than yours' thread,,

my apologies, i was mistaken for thinking this was a place of free speach and learning for those that are truly of love and without judgement,,


enjoy your arguments, may they bring you closer to love/truth

please excuse my sarcasm


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 14851008


If you love someone, you tell them the truth, and of the only way of salvation from the damnation of hell.


(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


If you hate someone, you preach like the the devil's Beatles do and give them a false sense of security that leads to hell: "All you need is love."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


subliminal in the band title

Beatles

Be-A-t-Less

t - christian cross


got that from another GLP'er, not sure if it's true but seems a pretty big coincidence otherwise seeing that Beatles is obviously satanic influence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8597527


makes sense, the beatles are one of the devil's sickest attacks on humanity ever vomited out of the pits of hell

note the mutilated babies on their album cover as they laugh in the face of the deceived masses as to the murderous hate and witchcraft they are consuming 'in the name of peace and love':


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(Galatians 6:7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


would you be disappointed to know that my life is wonderful?
 Quoting: Edge Rider


According to the Word of God, this is a tell tale sign that one is not saved.


(John 15:19-20) If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you


(2 Timothy 3:12) Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491



well, no im not "saved" because i dont subscribe to that. i meet my persecutors head on. things can still be wonderful even tho life is challenging...
 Quoting: Edge Rider



(1 John 2:15) Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
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So far 79 people have voted 'OTHER'

we all need to continue seeking TRUTH....

with the days we live in,

it is vital that we find answers....

I cried out to JESUS....

and HE answered me.....

that was years ago....

and HE is still answering my prayers!

I have also seen HIM do miracles and I have also witnessed demons being casted out of people....

I have seen gifts of the SPIRIT

Just wanted to share that testimony!
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Near the onset of World War II, five college students determined to search for the Lord's true church. One of the group compiled a list of seventeen characteristics and key doctrines of the church Christ established. He suggested that Christ's church today should include them all and that they should try to find such a church. The five friends began talking to priests and ministers, comparing the structure and doctrines of various churches with the list. None matched more than half of the requirements.

The five friends parted and it was years before they met again. Individually, they had found and joined the Church of - [link to www.redmondfamily.com]

1. Christ organized the Church (Ephesians 4:11-14)
2. The true church must bear the name of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 5:23)
3. The true church must have a foundation of Apostles and Prophets (Ephesians 2:19-20)
4. The true church must have the same organization as Christ's Church (Ephesians 4:11-14)
5. The true church must claim divine authority (Hebrews 4:4-10)
6. The true church must have no paid ministry (Acts 20:33-34; John 10:11-13)
7. The true church must baptize by immersion (Matthew 3:13-16)
8. The true church must bestow the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands (Acts 8:14-17)
9. The true church must practice divine healing (Mark 3:14-15)
10. The true church must teach that God and Jesus are separate and distinct individuals (John 17:11; 20:17)
11. The true church must teach that God and Jesus have bodies of flesh and bone (Luke 23:36-39; Acts 1:9-11; Hebrews 1:1-3)
12. The officers must be called by God (Hebrews 4:4; Exodus 28:1; 40:13-16)
13. The true church must claim revelation from God (Amos 3:7)
14. The true church must be a missionary church (Matthew 28:19-20)
15. The true church must be a restored church (Acts 3:19-20)
16. The true church must practice baptism for the dead (1 Corinthians 15:16&29)
17. "By their fruits ye shall know them." (Matthews 7:20)

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Re: POLL: What do you believe?? Where DOES your spiritual allegiance lie?? Everyone has one!!
thankyou,,, that mean't a lot to me,,


i knew you was of good heart and kindness,,

and it was nice to feel your love expressed through your own words,,, thanks again,,

your correct, im very gentile, and of love,,,

i love my fellow man and wish the best for us all, yet i dislike the threat side of religions,, the control through fear, to me is not, of love,

the love i get and give comes from creator/source,, and its within me,,

i tend to find the point of scriptures, wether they be true or false, to be a fear based control mechanism, and not of the love i feel in my heart,

but im fully aware others follow the word to the rule and find it a comfort/a direct rule book, of sorts, however this is not my personel experience,,

ive always had this knowledge that evil often hides within human religious organisations, and, if its organised by a man
and his false words , then i will never follow it blindly,,

i hope ive not offended anyone,,

thanks again,,

much love,,

but i love you all
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thankyou,,, that mean't a lot to me,,


i knew you was of good heart and kindness,,

and it was nice to feel your love expressed through your own words,,, thanks again,,

your correct, im very gentile, and of love,,,

i love my fellow man and wish the best for us all, yet i dislike the threat side of religions,, the control through fear, to me is not, of love,

the love i get and give comes from creator/source,, and its within me,,

i tend to find the point of scriptures, wether they be true or false, to be a fear based control mechanism, and not of the love i feel in my heart,

but im fully aware others follow the word to the rule and find it a comfort/a direct rule book, of sorts, however this is not my personel experience,,

ive always had this knowledge that evil often hides within human religious organisations, and, if its organised by a man
and his false words , then i will never follow it blindly,,

i hope ive not offended anyone,,

thanks again,,

much love,,

but i love you all
 Quoting: nobody 14851008



(1 John 2:22) Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.


(Revelation 21:8) But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
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bless you,, you are funny,, i will leave you alone to continue your, 'my religions better than yours' thread,,

my apologies, i was mistaken for thinking this was a place of free speach and learning for those that are truly of love and without judgement,,


enjoy your arguments, may they bring you closer to love/truth

please excuse my sarcasm


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 14851008


If you love someone, you tell them the truth, and of the only way of salvation from the damnation of hell.


(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


If you hate someone, you preach like the the devil's Beatles do and give them a false sense of security that leads to hell: "All you need is love."
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So, love isnt all you need?

Lol wowzers
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No human has survived more than 3 days without water. So, yeah ... love is not all you need ... at least for more than 3 days, anyway.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


That is the physical sense of need.

We are refering to spiritual needs.

Love is the key component of any religion.

It is a key component to my non-religious lifestyle.
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If you love someone, you tell them the truth, and of the only way of salvation from the damnation of hell.


(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


If you hate someone, you preach like the the devil's Beatles do and give them a false sense of security that leads to hell: "All you need is love."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


So, love isnt all you need?

Lol wowzers
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


No human has survived more than 3 days without water. So, yeah ... love is not all you need ... at least for more than 3 days, anyway.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


That is the physical sense of need.

We are refering to spiritual needs.

Love is the key component of any religion.

It is a key component to my non-religious lifestyle.
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


:D

I'm just trying to have a little fun on what's been a REALLY rough couple of days, brother.

I honestly mean no offense to anyone ... I'm just poking at holes for giggles.

Please don't be offended.
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
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Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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thankyou,,, that mean't a lot to me,,


i knew you was of good heart and kindness,,

and it was nice to feel your love expressed through your own words,,, thanks again,,

your correct, im very gentile, and of love,,,

i love my fellow man and wish the best for us all, yet i dislike the threat side of religions,, the control through fear, to me is not, of love,

the love i get and give comes from creator/source,, and its within me,,

i tend to find the point of scriptures, wether they be true or false, to be a fear based control mechanism, and not of the love i feel in my heart,

but im fully aware others follow the word to the rule and find it a comfort/a direct rule book, of sorts, however this is not my personel experience,,

ive always had this knowledge that evil often hides within human religious organisations, and, if its organised by a man
and his false words , then i will never follow it blindly,,

i hope ive not offended anyone,,

thanks again,,

much love,,

but i love you all
 Quoting: nobody 14851008



(1 John 2:22) Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.


(Revelation 21:8) But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


:(

Why would you post that in reply? I thought that was a very warm posting.

UK AC, I appreciate your kind words and hope you continue to share them.
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
Real men keep Torah.
Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10.

Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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wow, threats, from loving folk,, hmmm

would a creator of worlds races ect ect harm his children in anyway whatsoever,, a creator of such greater superior knowledge feel the need to burn his children and make them suffer for enternity in a lake of ever burning fire,,,

these sound like mans words, threats, punishments, not a creator, whom creates through love,,

we are taught to forgive by the same scriptures, so why would a creator not lead by example?? hmmm,,

i smell a rat,,

is it not simply man's manipulation of the scripture to maintain control through a fear based mechanism,

makes more sense to me,,,

i have no fear, only love, and forgiveness, as does the true creator of all things,,


there is no hell,, there never was, only that created by man,,

get the irony,,

much love


look forward to your fear based threats of hell ect,,

i forgive you, in advance,, goodnight,,
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she, queen of the universe, mother all.

not new age, . .
more all age, . .

there is no original sin.
there is only joy.

no need to be saved
union with her her heart consciousness is eternal.

simple as that.
get the feeling.
spread the joy.
love shall prevail.
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I believe in God. I consider myself a Christian. I have however, come away from Religiosity.

I saw so many folks struggling with sin. These folks needed to know that there was a power greater then themselves, that there was unconditional love for ALL Sinners, and that God loved them. Yet, time after time, they heard judgmental Christians telling them they were sinning and they were going to hell.

I had been deeply involved in ministry. I begin to notice that some Christians are the nastiest, most hateful people in the world.

In studying the bible I could never find a place where Jesus told people they were going to hell. Lets take the woman at the well, for instance. Jesus could have said, "You are a whore, who is going to hell! Repent so you will be with me in paradise!"

No, he discerned, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, what was going on with her. He kindly told her, that she was trying to fill the hole in her heart with "men" and relationships when what she needed was relationship with HIM.

Then he walked away, he didn't say, "This is your last chance! Repent."

People are in these suits of flesh, until the day we die the best Christian amongst us will be tempted.

I recently studied the Jewish teaching on the 13 attributes of Mercy. Some of the judgmental ones here, need to look them up and do the study. Moses was given these at the time he received the "tablets." Over and Over again they speak of God's mercy. The 10th or 11th one is interesting in that God tells Moses that there is punishment, but after punishment is Mercy. These 13 attributes are still recited on special Jewish Holiday.

Some of you act as if you never sin. You need to quit talking love and start showing love. You need to learn that God is merciful.

Judgment sounds ugly and it looks ugly, and it gives God a bad name. You catch the fish, and let HIM clean them up.

I could go on and on. I could talk about all these ministers who live like royalty, while their congregation is made to feel guilty for not tithing. My thought on that? If they have such faith themselves, they would take the tithes one month out of the year and divide them amongst the congregation, and then try living on FAITH themselves.
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1



(Matthew 15:8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.


(John 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


(John 8:24) I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491



Did you read a thing I wrote? Where did Jesus EVER tell a person they were going to hell? You will not find it.

Some may go to hell, but not because Jesus cursed them to hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1445528



(John 8:47) He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.


(Matthew 5:29-30) And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.


(Matthew 8:11-12) And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


(Matthew 10:28) And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


(Matthew 13:49-50) So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


You turned around and did just what I warned about. You quoted scripture, without a bit of love regarding sinners.

You are guilty of the sin of looking for a splinter in someone's eye, and neglecting the BOARD in your own.

"Preach the gospel always, If necessary use words." ~ St. Francis of Assisi.

If you like words, remember these "Judge not, Lest ye be Judged."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1445528



You warned me, you told me, you feel, you believe, you think, you pronounce me guilty, St. Francis says...how about the Holy Word of God?


(John 8:37) I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.


Ah, finally...


(Matthew 7:1-5) Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


(John 8:26) I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.


(2 Timothy 4:2-5) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.


(Titus 1:13) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;





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