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i wonder why they cant send robots in there and remove the fuel rods and take apart the reactor. if the fuel rods are seperated wont the reactor stop reacting?
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the robots can't work in the radiation.. it feks their parts......
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Let's hope the spent fuel pond at reactor 4 will continue to hold on until something can be done with the spent fuel.

Some encouraging facts.

Of a total 1997 earthquakes since march 11, 2011, 675 were of mag5 or better. 82 were mag6 or better. A couple over mag7.
[link to www.japanquakemap.com]


SFP 4 is still there. Still standing.

The reactor buildings are on bedrock. The site was excavated to achieve this because the engineers felt it was a safer plan. The foundations are solid, with the exception of cracks caused by the mag9 earthquake. We know there are some cracks because of the presence of groundwater in the basements and contamination to the ocean.

4 looks really bad on the outside but it is possible that it is structurally sound at this point, foundation-wise. Those ponds aren't your average swimming pool-type of construction. They are thick-walled and well reinforced with re-bar. The fact that it hasn't collapsed by now is encouraging. There is even a part of the wall under the pond missing and it hasn't collapsed. And, tepco has jacks installed underneath.

But... another mag9 hits, all bets are off. It could fall like a house of cards. Time is the enemy now. They need to bust ass to take care of this, and should have been doing so all along instead of screwing around with clean-up and making pretty covers.

In my humble freakin opinion.

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i wonder why they cant send robots in there and remove the fuel rods and take apart the reactor. if the fuel rods are seperated wont the reactor stop reacting?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11884238


They don't have such a robot that could do any of that. Also I read somewhere that the radiation in there is so intense that it would soon fry the electronic control mechanisms of any such robot.
Note that the rods have to be immersed in water at all times or they will ignite and release their radioactive components into the atmosphere. This makes it much more difficult to move them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15192496


it's called corium (which has already happened)... they did it in very small scales in the 50-60's... it is a mix of all the elements, the pellets, their shielding, the rods of titanium etc..., concrete, metals for houseing etc.... corium... which is the situation we have at all three (known).... is unknown... this is why we don't know the effect on the water table, the earth beneath, the containment, indeed where it is.. it is all speculation... shit.. china syndrome movie was based on 'scientfic' speculation.... this is way beyond the worst.....

remember... chernobyl is still reacting below the containment.... 1 year road plan my arse... cold shut down my arse... atom-boy spin.. my arse...

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 04/28/2012 12:54 AM
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it's called corium (which has already happened)... they did it in very small scales in the 50-60's... it is a mix of all the elements, the pellets, their shielding, the rods of titanium etc..., concrete, metals for houseing etc.... corium... which is the situation we have at all three (known).... is unknown... this is why we don't know the effect on the water table, the earth beneath, the containment, indeed where it is.. it is all speculation... shit.. china syndrome movie was based on 'scientfic' speculation.... this is way beyond the worst.....

remember... chernobyl is still reacting below the containment.... 1 year road plan my arse... cold shut down my arse... atom-boy spin.. my arse...
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The biggest worry isn't the corium in the reactor, it's the pool containing 1500 spent rods that is located above the reactor. Not sayin' that the corium isn't a problem though.
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There's no shortage of issues to be concerned about. If anything goes wrong anywhere, there will likely be a domino effect whereby one problem will create so much radiation release that the site will become even more physically unapproachable and drive workers away from the area, leading to unmanaged/uncooled spent fuel pools, etc... It's a true f***ing mess.
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Cp, our Superman will save the World
because he is so much smarter than
all the Tepco People,
we should visit his Blog to see how
well his Ideas are,
only he can save us!
G.Y.!B.E.
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it's called corium (which has already happened)... they did it in very small scales in the 50-60's... it is a mix of all the elements, the pellets, their shielding, the rods of titanium etc..., concrete, metals for houseing etc.... corium... which is the situation we have at all three (known).... is unknown... this is why we don't know the effect on the water table, the earth beneath, the containment, indeed where it is.. it is all speculation... shit.. china syndrome movie was based on 'scientfic' speculation.... this is way beyond the worst.....

remember... chernobyl is still reacting below the containment.... 1 year road plan my arse... cold shut down my arse... atom-boy spin.. my arse...
 Quoting: citizenperth


The biggest worry isn't the corium in the reactor, it's the pool containing 1500 spent rods that is located above the reactor. Not sayin' that the corium isn't a problem though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15192496


what they're not mentioning also is the shared pool a few 50 meters from number four... check out how much is in there... and it's damaged from debris.....

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 04/28/2012 01:21 AM
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it's called corium (which has already happened)... they did it in very small scales in the 50-60's... it is a mix of all the elements, the pellets, their shielding, the rods of titanium etc..., concrete, metals for houseing etc.... corium... which is the situation we have at all three (known).... is unknown... this is why we don't know the effect on the water table, the earth beneath, the containment, indeed where it is.. it is all speculation... shit.. china syndrome movie was based on 'scientfic' speculation.... this is way beyond the worst.....

remember... chernobyl is still reacting below the containment.... 1 year road plan my arse... cold shut down my arse... atom-boy spin.. my arse...
 Quoting: citizenperth


The biggest worry isn't the corium in the reactor, it's the pool containing 1500 spent rods that is located above the reactor. Not sayin' that the corium isn't a problem though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15192496


and don't forget that there's a huge spent fuel storage
building across the road from reactor Bdg. #3 that
contains god knows how many fuel rods. and TEPCO
has never said anything about that building nor what
the conditions are inside of it.
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from [link to fukushima-diary.com]
Prof. Takeda
“3/31/2015 ii the last day of Japan”
Posted by Mochizuki on April 27th, 2012
Prof. Takeda Kunihiko from Chubu university roughly estimated anyone can no longer live in Japan after 3/31/2015.
According to his explanation, the yearly dose will reach 5mSv/y (External dose and the slight internal dose) in 3 years and 4 months from January of 2012.
He states, he receives radiation data from one of his readers. The person measures radiation three times a day, at work, doorway of house, and the living room in Mie prefecture (500km from Fukushima)
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Prophecy being fulfilled in front of our faces.
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These are GE designed plants, and no one is holding them responsible.
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We are all responsible for being energy users and for not stopping these plants from going up in the first place. wall
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15182238


Ping Pong, Ping Pong, 777,
we are not many who think in that way
but i am getting happier every day
because this Group is growing!

Reclaim your own Responsibility!

 Quoting: Atom-Boy


I get annoyed because it's not like there wasn't opposition to nuclear plants but all those people got labelled as hippie lunatics. peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15182238


Kind of like we are labeled as conspiracy theorists - when in truth, we only want the TRUTH
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There is not enough coverage of this. I personally would like to see everyday want is being done at Fukushima. All the " reality tv" out there and yet nothing on real unfolding dramas.
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We are all responsible for being energy users and for not stopping these plants from going up in the first place. wall
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15182238


Ping Pong, Ping Pong, 777,
we are not many who think in that way
but i am getting happier every day
because this Group is growing!

Reclaim your own Responsibility!

 Quoting: Atom-Boy


I get annoyed because it's not like there wasn't opposition to nuclear plants but all those people got labelled as hippie lunatics. peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15182238


Kind of like we are labeled as conspiracy theorists - when in truth, we only want the TRUTH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9512525


We can't handle the truth apparently. goodnews
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These are GE designed plants, and no one is holding them responsible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15134555


It's not GE's fault the Japs won't fix it. They just sold them the equipment. Nor is it GE's responsibility to run them the right way. These are old. Mark I is obsolete.
 Quoting: GeekOfTheWeek


WTH are you defending GE for? They are part of the globalist cabal that don't give a damn about the 'little' people as long as they can make money.

Must be a SHILL!!!!!!

shill
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There is not enough coverage of this. I personally would like to see everyday want is being done at Fukushima. All the " reality tv" out there and yet nothing on real unfolding dramas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15182238


It reminds me of 'The Masters' golf tournament TV coverage.

We only see what they 'let' us see.

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We are all responsible for being energy users and for not stopping these plants from going up in the first place. wall
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15182238


Ping Pong, Ping Pong, 777,
we are not many who think in that way
but i am getting happier every day
because this Group is growing!

Reclaim your own Responsibility!

 Quoting: Atom-Boy


I get annoyed because it's not like there wasn't opposition to nuclear plants but all those people got labelled as hippie lunatics. peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15182238


Kind of like we are labeled as conspiracy theorists - when in truth, we only want the TRUTH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9512525


bingo ... well said.. i have a life expectancy.. i would enjoy knowing that life goes on after i leave.. and i'll be fucked if i sit on my arse watching this shit happen... (first time i fully swore)... anyhoos... people need to know... we have children that need to be raised to continue on.. at the present moment... it seems we do need to keep them out of the picture, becuase there is no plan... sad.... and biologically destructive for our species..... natural develotion????... we only have our selves to blame then....

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 04/28/2012 01:48 AM
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They know about it....they know what it can do. They COULD offer free health checks and iodine tabs for the entire population to help us but nah....they don't. Wonder why?
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Japan’s former Ambassador to Switzerland, Mr. Mitsuhei Murata, was invited to speak at the Public Hearing of the Budgetary Committee of the House of Councilors on March 22, 2012, on the Fukushima nuclear power plants accident.

Before the Committee, Ambassador Murata strongly stated that if the crippled building of reactor unit 4—with 1,535 fuel rods in the spent fuel pool 100 feet (30 meters) above the ground—collapses, not only will it cause a shutdown of all six reactors but will also affect the common spent fuel pool containing 6,375 fuel rods, located some 50 meters from reactor 4.

In both cases the radioactive rods are not protected by a containment vessel; dangerously, they are open to the air.

This would certainly cause a global catastrophe like we have never before experienced.

He stressed that the responsibility of Japan to the rest of the world is immeasurable.




here is the entire article [link to akiomatsumura.com]

who invented the nuclear death tool? A HUGE ASSHOLE AND A CRIMINAL bad_smelly
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Poster/Prophet Once4All was told by the Lord Jesus Christ, "A Toxic Fire Will Contaminate the Whole World", some months before the Japan earthquake.

Just sayin'.....
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Ping Pong, Ping Pong, 777,
we are not many who think in that way
but i am getting happier every day
because this Group is growing!

Reclaim your own Responsibility!

 Quoting: Atom-Boy


I get annoyed because it's not like there wasn't opposition to nuclear plants but all those people got labelled as hippie lunatics. peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15182238


Kind of like we are labeled as conspiracy theorists - when in truth, we only want the TRUTH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9512525


bingo ... well said.. i have a life expectancy.. i would enjoy knowing that life goes on after i leave.. and i'll be fucked if i sit on my arse watching this shit happen... (first time i fully swore)... anyhoos... people need to know... we have children that need to be raised to continue on.. at the present moment... it seems we do need to keep them out of the picture, becuase there is no plan... sad.... and biologically destructive for our species..... natural develotion????... we only have our selves to blame then....
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I'm sorry?
Please enlighten us, what exactly have you done to improve the situation?
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Two entities you never hear discussed together are Fukushima and Al Qaida, but has anyone contemplated the devastating effect of a terrorist strike on the crippled #4 reactor and more specifically the spent fuel pool ? Japan is also home to that home-grown suicide cult responsible for the subway gas attack back in the 90's.

Even if the structures could withstand further earthquakes and not collapse on their own, imagine the damage a quick-strike, several man amphibian suicide force could do with some C4 in just a matter of minutes if they attacked the plant from a small submarine surfacing just off the coast.

If what some scientists and diplomats are saying is true (I believe them) a well-planned, quick terrorist strike on the plant could actually produce an extinction-level event.
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I get annoyed because it's not like there wasn't opposition to nuclear plants but all those people got labelled as hippie lunatics. peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15182238


Kind of like we are labeled as conspiracy theorists - when in truth, we only want the TRUTH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9512525


bingo ... well said.. i have a life expectancy.. i would enjoy knowing that life goes on after i leave.. and i'll be fucked if i sit on my arse watching this shit happen... (first time i fully swore)... anyhoos... people need to know... we have children that need to be raised to continue on.. at the present moment... it seems we do need to keep them out of the picture, becuase there is no plan... sad.... and biologically destructive for our species..... natural develotion????... we only have our selves to blame then....
 Quoting: citizenperth



I'm sorry?
Please enlighten us, what exactly have you done to improve the situation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15196625


good question...

i don't come home and watch operah... look to see what is happening first...

then i look to see who is saying something from tepco, and the government...

then i look to see the papers and their responses (online globaly)

then i check other induses from other web-sites....

then i google fukushima (last 24 hours)

then i check back here to see if anyone has anymore news

then i post to my site.......

what the fuck do you do?

you do realise how dire this situation is yes?


thanks for asking....
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Remember....Edgar Cayce said... :Japan MUST go into the sea"
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Is people in the south pacific coast also in danger from this radiation?
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Remember....Edgar Cayce said... :Japan MUST go into the sea"
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that is the most major statement from the man that got everything right, and therefore 1012
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Two entities you never hear discussed together are Fukushima and Al Qaida, but has anyone contemplated the devastating effect of a terrorist strike on the crippled #4 reactor and more specifically the spent fuel pool ? Japan is also home to that home-grown suicide cult responsible for the subway gas attack back in the 90's.

Even if the structures could withstand further earthquakes and not collapse on their own, imagine the damage a quick-strike, several man amphibian suicide force could do with some C4 in just a matter of minutes if they attacked the plant from a small submarine surfacing just off the coast.

If what some scientists and diplomats are saying is true (I believe them) a well-planned, quick terrorist strike on the plant could actually produce an extinction-level event.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12108080


That is a horrible scenario but sadly in this world not impossible.
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Tepco should quit the business. They think everything is fine and green like their green tea.
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Two entities you never hear discussed together are Fukushima and Al Qaida, but has anyone contemplated the devastating effect of a terrorist strike on the crippled #4 reactor and more specifically the spent fuel pool ? Japan is also home to that home-grown suicide cult responsible for the subway gas attack back in the 90's.

Even if the structures could withstand further earthquakes and not collapse on their own, imagine the damage a quick-strike, several man amphibian suicide force could do with some C4 in just a matter of minutes if they attacked the plant from a small submarine surfacing just off the coast.

If what some scientists and diplomats are saying is true (I believe them) a well-planned, quick terrorist strike on the plant could actually produce an extinction-level event.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12108080


That is a horrible scenario but sadly in this world not impossible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15182238


i wonder, and ponder why.. so we get worked over.. but why the planet?
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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I should have specified all "human life" at least.
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Kind of like we are labeled as conspiracy theorists - when in truth, we only want the TRUTH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9512525


bingo ... well said.. i have a life expectancy.. i would enjoy knowing that life goes on after i leave.. and i'll be fucked if i sit on my arse watching this shit happen... (first time i fully swore)... anyhoos... people need to know... we have children that need to be raised to continue on.. at the present moment... it seems we do need to keep them out of the picture, becuase there is no plan... sad.... and biologically destructive for our species..... natural develotion????... we only have our selves to blame then....
 Quoting: citizenperth



I'm sorry?
Please enlighten us, what exactly have you done to improve the situation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15196625


good question...

i don't come home and watch operah... look to see what is happening first...

then i look to see who is saying something from tepco, and the government...

then i look to see the papers and their responses (online globaly)

then i check other induses from other web-sites....

then i google fukushima (last 24 hours)

then i check back here to see if anyone has anymore news

then i post to my site.......

what the fuck do you do?

you do realise how dire this situation is yes?


thanks for asking....
 Quoting: citizenperth


Delightful language.
Sounds like your sitting on your arse to me.
The media has done a great job of making you live in fear of the invisible boogie monster.
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If we're all going to die, why sit on a computer all day whining about it.Shouldnt you be outside enjoying the last of your days?

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