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Any Prepper with a bit of sense would NEVER have "1 way in... 1 way out" of a bunker. You always have a "second" JICTSHTF "exit" strategy as well as using this bunker daily in the event of WORL, you never risk coming and going from the same place twice.

There should be munitions of some sort that would pretty much take care of the group of intruders once all have entered the bunker... "Boom goes the Dynamite" as they say on ESPN.

and there should be a "back way" out for the bunkerist.

Good luck to the feds if they decide to breech ;)... and the longer they wait, the longer any smart "bunkerist" would be bugged out.

If guilty of murder... I suggest a larger perimeter and remote/drone type entry into said bunker... Teargas? HaHa... He has this base covered if he has a bunker.
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As these things happen, this is the time to take notes and observe how they as in the police handle things.
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[link to www.foxnews.com]


SWAT team in Seattle surrounded a mans bunker believing he murdered his family. Stand Off could take days.
 Quoting: Medic


Sadly, we won't know the real truth of what has happened / is happening here.

The Feds could surround your home, after coming in and killing your family and placing the blame on you. Of course the MSM will say "Oh, looky here folks! We got ourselves another nutjob gunnut survivaltard! Ain't they evil?"

Sure, the guy could have flipped out - entirely possible. My point is only this: don't take ANYTHING you see/read/hear on the MSM at face value.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here but it bears repeating.
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I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH U POSTER!!
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Its could be one of the cabals bunkers and this is the start of mass arrests
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Re: SWAT teams surround Seattle 'survivalist's' bunker
how to kill man in bunker with gas mask on
unless he had oxygen supply, maybe block ventillation and suck the oxygen out with chem or something
or pump heat into bunker till it bakes him
or maybe just drill holes and pump it full of high expansion foam
just speculating options
never really thought about it much
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SWAT team in Seattle surrounded a mans bunker believing he murdered his family. Stand Off could take days.
 Quoting: Medic


Sadly, we won't know the real truth of what has happened / is happening here.

The Feds could surround your home, after coming in and killing your family and placing the blame on you. Of course the MSM will say "Oh, looky here folks! We got ourselves another nutjob gunnut survivaltard! Ain't they evil?"

Sure, the guy could have flipped out - entirely possible. My point is only this: don't take ANYTHING you see/read/hear on the MSM at face value.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here but it bears repeating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139

+1
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[link to www.seattlepi.com]

Another article.

It seems as though he's on the run and they're not likely to find him. This Fox article ( [link to www.foxnews.com] said he "could be hiding in numerous places around the country and nearby Cascade Mountains."

Is this another ploy to get the public to entrust the parks to DHS? A ploy by MSM to get the public to scoff at survivalist types? Washington is notorious for their crazies and serial killers, though.
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The guy must have seen the movie Rambo !
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PSYOP.
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This. Conditioning. The new terror threat is YOU America.
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Yup... It's BEEN about YOU even before WACO, Randy Weaver, and the OKC False Flag bombing.
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The cops need to send in some food err I mean a dog. Thats always a good move.
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You cannot defend a static position. This guy will eventually surrender or die. I hope preppers take notes. Your ability to survive is wholly dependent upon whether or not you are detected. Replace the swat team with a hungry group of killers and you'll end up with the same result. If you plan on defending a static position you better have a well armed, well fed group of people helping you.

Otherwise, like this guy, your bunker is your homemade grave.
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That's not true. It depends on how the bunker was built.

:)

The key is to make the price of admission so high it's taking becomes meaningless or negative for the party(s) involved.
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The cops need to send in some food err I mean a dog. Thats always a good move.
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How about some Kentucky Fried Chicken.. Can lure the guy out with that I bet :)
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[link to www.foxnews.com]


SWAT team in Seattle surrounded a mans bunker believing he murdered his family. Stand Off could take days.
 Quoting: Medic


Sadly, we won't know the real truth of what has happened / is happening here.

The Feds could surround your home, after coming in and killing your family and placing the blame on you. Of course the MSM will say "Oh, looky here folks! We got ourselves another nutjob gunnut survivaltard! Ain't they evil?"

Sure, the guy could have flipped out - entirely possible. My point is only this: don't take ANYTHING you see/read/hear on the MSM at face value.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here but it bears repeating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


you're suggesting "The Feds" murdered this man's family so they could create an anti survivalist news story? people are going to forget about this in a few hours
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He's suggesting the possibility of this. After Waco, WTC 1 and 2, Ruby Ridge, etc., how could you even think to dismiss this possibility?
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The cops need to send in some food err I mean a dog. Thats always a good move.
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Dude is gone.

Probably another DB Cooper.
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Re: SWAT teams surround Seattle 'survivalist's' bunker
It's hard to imagine a guy killing his family, after working years to protect them by building a bunker.
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Re: SWAT teams surround Seattle 'survivalist's' bunker
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SWAT team in Seattle surrounded a mans bunker believing he murdered his family. Stand Off could take days.
 Quoting: Medic


Sadly, we won't know the real truth of what has happened / is happening here.

The Feds could surround your home, after coming in and killing your family and placing the blame on you. Of course the MSM will say "Oh, looky here folks! We got ourselves another nutjob gunnut survivaltard! Ain't they evil?"

Sure, the guy could have flipped out - entirely possible. My point is only this: don't take ANYTHING you see/read/hear on the MSM at face value.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here but it bears repeating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


you're suggesting "The Feds" murdered this man's family so they could create an anti survivalist news story? people are going to forget about this in a few hours
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14763150


He's suggesting the possibility of this. After Waco, WTC 1 and 2, Ruby Ridge, etc., how could you even think to dismiss this possibility?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10771907

It's also a "possibility" the aliens did it. Get a grip people.
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It's hard to imagine a guy killing his family, after working years to protect them by building a bunker.
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I agreeIdol1
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SWAT team in Seattle surrounded a mans bunker believing he murdered his family. Stand Off could take days.
 Quoting: Medic


Sadly, we won't know the real truth of what has happened / is happening here.

The Feds could surround your home, after coming in and killing your family and placing the blame on you. Of course the MSM will say "Oh, looky here folks! We got ourselves another nutjob gunnut survivaltard! Ain't they evil?"

Sure, the guy could have flipped out - entirely possible. My point is only this: don't take ANYTHING you see/read/hear on the MSM at face value.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here but it bears repeating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


precisely, we cannot forget that the people delivering messages like this one are bought and paid for shills for the federal government.

He may have actually killed his family. He could be a great big psy-op meant for stirring up shit among the fringe.

Here's a couple thoughts:

1. if the man weren't a survivalist, would we hear about this at all?

2. if the bunker is so tough, then what information do they have to make them think the family inside is murdered or even modestly uncomfortable?

3. If he is well off enough to build such a bad ass bunker, then where are his lawyers to speak for him now?

4. Why is it pinned on GLP instead of an emergency bulletin on CNN?
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The cops need to send in some food err I mean a dog. Thats always a good move.
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


Dude is gone.

Probably another DB Cooper.
 Quoting: Vermonster


The predictors of happiness for an fbi profiler are severely limited.
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Re: SWAT teams surround Seattle 'survivalist's' bunker
Most of you guys are not familiar with the area that he built his bunker, so you would not know how it is laid out and how many people are in and around it.

This trail head is like Wal Mart. There are people in and out of it all the time. That means that people are hiking and combing the area like ants.

It does not make sense that the man would build his bunker in such a congested area.
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somebody going "postal" again?
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SWAT team in Seattle surrounded a mans bunker believing he murdered his family. Stand Off could take days.
 Quoting: Medic


Sadly, we won't know the real truth of what has happened / is happening here.

The Feds could surround your home, after coming in and killing your family and placing the blame on you. Of course the MSM will say "Oh, looky here folks! We got ourselves another nutjob gunnut survivaltard! Ain't they evil?"

Sure, the guy could have flipped out - entirely possible. My point is only this: don't take ANYTHING you see/read/hear on the MSM at face value.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here but it bears repeating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


precisely, we cannot forget that the people delivering messages like this one are bought and paid for shills for the federal government.

He may have actually killed his family. He could be a great big psy-op meant for stirring up shit among the fringe.

Here's a couple thoughts:

1. if the man weren't a survivalist, would we hear about this at all?

2. if the bunker is so tough, then what information do they have to make them think the family inside is murdered or even modestly uncomfortable?

3. If he is well off enough to build such a bad ass bunker, then where are his lawyers to speak for him now?

4. Why is it pinned on GLP instead of an emergency bulletin on CNN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1435831


Like the Zimmerman story presented by the media it has elements of fact but is mostly lies.

This doesn't sound like a survivalist bunker to me. Its more like what a homeless person would live in while he collected food stamps. In Florida a friend of mine said they call them "woodsmen" now. They can't afford to live in apartments and don't want to live in homeless shelters. Doesn't really sound like the guy they're hunting owns it but he very likely visited whoever lived there fairly often.
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Re: SWAT teams surround Seattle 'survivalist's' bunker
Any Prepper with a bit of sense would NEVER have "1 way in... 1 way out" of a bunker. You always have a "second" JICTSHTF "exit" strategy as well as using this bunker daily in the event of WORL, you never risk coming and going from the same place twice.

There should be munitions of some sort that would pretty much take care of the group of intruders once all have entered the bunker... "Boom goes the Dynamite" as they say on ESPN.

and there should be a "back way" out for the bunkerist.

Good luck to the feds if they decide to breech ;)... and the longer they wait, the longer any smart "bunkerist" would be bugged out.

If guilty of murder... I suggest a larger perimeter and remote/drone type entry into said bunker... Teargas? HaHa... He has this base covered if he has a bunker.
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he has a bunker in another location for the just in case...my gues he has bugged out....at the first sign of trouble...
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how come everyone with a bunker is crazy as fuck?
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Their not. Do you believe everything you hear or read?
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Drop and give me 10, son.
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how come everyone with a bunker is crazy as fuck?
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Their not. Do you believe everything you hear or read?
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the government will not tolerate sedition of any kind.

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Re: SWAT teams surround Seattle 'survivalist's' bunker
Most of you guys are not familiar with the area that he built his bunker, so you would not know how it is laid out and how many people are in and around it.

This trail head is like Wal Mart. There are people in and out of it all the time. That means that people are hiking and combing the area like ants.

It does not make sense that the man would build his bunker in such a congested area.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


here's a map of the bunkers location

[link to seattletimes.nwsource.com]

and a Google map of the same area

[link to maps.google.com]

according to the Seattle times, the North Bend outlet mall was visible in pictures Keller took from the bunker

[link to seattletimes.nwsource.com]
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This is probably the governments way of showing the people how "crazy and silly" survivalists are. They want the sheeple hate preppers.
"We learn from history that we learn nothing from history." - George Bernard Shaw
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SWAT team in Seattle surrounded a mans bunker believing he murdered his family. Stand Off could take days.
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Bunker? Fucking Lame stream media
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who cares
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IMO, We shall see if SWAT/Police have learned from WACO...

This will be the proving ground for SWAT/Police in routing preppers....

As they say on commercials "Coming soon to a town like yours."





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