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Abraham man of god - married his sister and prostituted her out

 
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Abraham man of god - married his sister and prostituted her out
Genesis 12:11 (NIV) "As he was about to enter Egypt, he said to his wife Sarai, 'I know what a beautiful woman you are. When the Egyptians see you, they will say, 'This is his wife.' Then they will kill me but will let you live. Say you are my sister, so that I will be treated well for your sake and my life will be spared because of you.' "

(Gen 12:16) He treated Abram well for her sake, and Abram acquired sheep and cattle, male and female donkeys, menservants and maidservants, and camels.
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Genesis 12:15 And when Pharaoh's officials saw her, they praised her to Pharaoh, and she was taken into his palace.
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Re: Abraham man of god - married his sister and prostituted her out
yeah it's a central theme ever since the fall, the satanic commodification and pimping of women, can't see how it is pleasing to God ultimately, merely a playing out of satan's ability to influence the human race and the male failing of pride. God does explain in Genesis that he would set satan against the woman, so naturally that means that misogyny is satanic and therefore not pleasing to God, it's a trap for the unwary, the prideful.
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Can't help but wonder if what we have lived through over long drawn out millenia is the fall of the 'man', whereas in Genesis is a brief story, the male fall has taken much longer and has played out in a worldly sense.
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Can't help but wonder if what we have lived through over long drawn out millenia is the fall of the 'man', to match the fall of women portrayed in Genesis as a brief story, the male fall has taken much longer and has played out in a worldly sense.
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Added a phrase to make it more readable.
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He wasn't pimping her out. He didn't lie. Pride is a destroyer. I will say this to you once. Do not trespass on the wife of a man that the Creator loves. They would have killed Abraham and had her anyways so he chose to fool them and by doing so the Egyptians brought an evil upon themselves. Chances are the Creator would have protected Abraham, but he would not have ended up so wealthy or on stable grounds in Egypt. Sarah was his sister of his father, but not of his mother, so he did not lie. He did not say "hey you Pharaoh, fuck her and pay me with livestock". He very intelligently outsmarted them at their own game. By giving up pride he won a kingdoms favor. Maybe it's good that more people don't understand this unique wisdom.

I find it more difficult to let Hagar go into the wild with his first born then to curse the Egyptians with the sin of adultery. That was sad and he didn't want to do it. I don't know if I would have been able to let my first born and his mother into the wild. Then again the Creator told Abraham his seed would be protected and flourish into many nations.
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She was his step sister and it was very common back then , they did not have the problems that we have today with incest . And prostituted out ? She was not touched or whoever touched her would have been slain by the Lord since it would have been adultery which is a capital offense . So please , stop slandering the Word .
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The entire jewish history is utterly bizarre and it can't be reconciled to modern day middle class values, a lot of it is symbolic, these tales aren't necessarily reducable to man good or woman baaaaad crap, there is a larger story playing out.
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She was his step sister and it was very common back then , they did not have the problems that we have today with incest . And prostituted out ? She was not touched or whoever touched her would have been slain by the Lord since it would have been adultery which is a capital offense . So please , stop slandering the Word .
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yes she was
Genesis 20:3

King James Version (KJV)

3But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife.
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The christins will refuse to address your post.

Instead they will copy-paste multiple bible quotes
What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
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bump and 5 stars for Critical Thinking!
What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
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Re: Abraham man of god - married his sister and prostituted her out
She was his step sister and it was very common back then , they did not have the problems that we have today with incest . And prostituted out ? She was not touched or whoever touched her would have been slain by the Lord since it would have been adultery which is a capital offense . So please , stop slandering the Word .
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yes she was
Genesis 20:3

King James Version (KJV)

3But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife.
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Then why did you lie ?
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Re: Abraham man of god - married his sister and prostituted her out
She was his step sister and it was very common back then , they did not have the problems that we have today with incest . And prostituted out ? She was not touched or whoever touched her would have been slain by the Lord since it would have been adultery which is a capital offense . So please , stop slandering the Word .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15203063


So the Lord or Pharaoh took her into his palace to prevent adultery? Simplty to protect her honor?

Yeah riiight!

I had much higher opinion of Irish folks.

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What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
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Re: Abraham man of god - married his sister and prostituted her out
She was his step sister and it was very common back then , they did not have the problems that we have today with incest . And prostituted out ? She was not touched or whoever touched her would have been slain by the Lord since it would have been adultery which is a capital offense . So please , stop slandering the Word .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15203063

yes she was
Genesis 20:3

King James Version (KJV)

3But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife.
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Then why did you lie ?
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no lies from me - she was taken by Abimelech
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By deception thou shall get rich. #2 God's rules of acquisition. #5 if God says go in slaughter them and take it, Don't question, Do it.

God is like a good crime boss. He works with you. But don't screw up.
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Re: Abraham man of god - married his sister and prostituted her out
She was his step sister and it was very common back then , they did not have the problems that we have today with incest . And prostituted out ? She was not touched or whoever touched her would have been slain by the Lord since it would have been adultery which is a capital offense . So please , stop slandering the Word .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15203063

yes she was
Genesis 20:3

King James Version (KJV)

3But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15204317


Then why did you lie ?
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no lies from me - she was taken by Abimelech
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You said she was prostituted out !
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hey pimpin aint easy but somebodies gotta do it.. ;)
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that's hot
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She was his step sister and it was very common back then , they did not have the problems that we have today with incest . And prostituted out ? She was not touched or whoever touched her would have been slain by the Lord since it would have been adultery which is a capital offense . So please , stop slandering the Word .
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incest is a vice, nothing more you are defending a crime and something very disgusting and disturbing.
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The christins will refuse to address your post.

Instead they will copy-paste multiple bible quotes
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I think I have addressed his post and I'm a christian. Show me where I have not addressed his post.
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yes she was
Genesis 20:3

King James Version (KJV)

3But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15204317


Then why did you lie ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15203063


no lies from me - she was taken by Abimelech
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You said she was prostituted out !
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gen20:14 And Abimelech took sheep, and oxen, and menservants, and womenservants, and gave them unto Abraham, and restored him Sarah his wife.
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Then why did you lie ?
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no lies from me - she was taken by Abimelech
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You said she was prostituted out !
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gen20:14 And Abimelech took sheep, and oxen, and menservants, and womenservants, and gave them unto Abraham, and restored him Sarah his wife.
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And ? What does that have to do with what I asked you ?
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no lies from me - she was taken by Abimelech
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You said she was prostituted out !
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gen20:14 And Abimelech took sheep, and oxen, and menservants, and womenservants, and gave them unto Abraham, and restored him Sarah his wife.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15204317


And ? What does that have to do with what I asked you ?
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thats the payment for sleeping with his sister/wife
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You said she was prostituted out !
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gen20:14 And Abimelech took sheep, and oxen, and menservants, and womenservants, and gave them unto Abraham, and restored him Sarah his wife.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15204317


And ? What does that have to do with what I asked you ?
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thats the payment for sleeping with his sister/wife
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Eh no . Did you not read what God said to him in the dream . That if he touches her , he is a dead man for she is a Man's wife ?

King James Version (KJV)

3But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife.

He gave Abraham those things out of respect and fear .
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gen20:14 And Abimelech took sheep, and oxen, and menservants, and womenservants, and gave them unto Abraham, and restored him Sarah his wife.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15204317


And ? What does that have to do with what I asked you ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15203063


thats the payment for sleeping with his sister/wife
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15204317


Eh no . Did you not read what God said to him in the dream . That if he touches her , he is a dead man for she is a Man's wife ?

King James Version (KJV)

3But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife.

He gave Abraham those things out of respect and fear .
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thou hast taken not about to take or to take taken thou hast taken
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genesis 12
more whoring out of his sister

13Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.

14And it came to pass, that, when Abram was come into Egypt, the Egyptians beheld the woman that she was very fair.

15The princes also of Pharaoh saw her, and commended her before Pharaoh: and the woman was taken into Pharaoh's house.

16And he entreated Abram well for her sake: and he had sheep, and oxen, and he asses, and menservants, and maidservants, and she asses, and camels.
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wheres irish gone ?
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more whoring out of his sister

genesis 12
13Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.

14And it came to pass, that, when Abram was come into Egypt, the Egyptians beheld the woman that she was very fair.

15The princes also of Pharaoh saw her, and commended her before Pharaoh: and the woman was taken into Pharaoh's house.

16And he entreated Abram well for her sake: and he had sheep, and oxen, and he asses, and menservants, and maidservants, and she asses, and camels.
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Despite all this Abraham still struggled to believe God's promises. Despite his experience in Egypt Abraham would once again leave the promised land of Canaan. He would once again lie about his relationship to his wife. And he would once again ask his wife to prostitute herself to foreigners.

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bump and 5 stars for Critical Thinking!
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bump
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Re: Abraham man of god - married his sister and prostituted her out
The Bible tells us that Abraham married his sister:

Genesis 20:11-12: 11 And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake. 12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.


However we also see the Bible later on forbids such an action:

Deuteronomy 27:22: 22 Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen

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