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the Jewish people did not practice homosexuality, never they were Torah observant and new the sexual sins of sodom and Gomorrah...

The pagans, heathens and hooligans were the ones to engage in the sins of the bible and Torah.....

Jewish people were sentenced for Torah offenses,Jesus taught them about the forgiveness that was needed and GOD,s mercy for those sinners....

Sexual sin including the sin of homosexuality is condemned eternally.
 Quoting: christian


show me where Jesus teaches this.
 Quoting: Salt


JEsus said he never came to abolish the law, but to full-fill the law.


The laws of God, Torah are eternal.
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NT scripture. don't go bringing up OT stuff
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he has to bring up NT if he is putting words in the mouth of Christ.
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homosexuals are running to satanic religions because of this false teaching.

this is an important topic.
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False teaching? Sheol and the lake of burning fire?
 Quoting: Xerces


sheol and lake of fire is a topic i have posted about quite a bit. i do not subscribe to eternal hellfire damnation for people. its another long topic.
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It's quite simple. The second death is to be cast into the lake of eternal fire which will wipe you from existence. That is an everlasting punishment. Only Azazel and his puppets are going to burn eternally.
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Re: Jesus never mentioned homosexuality in the New Testament
the Jewish people did not practice homosexuality, never they were Torah observant and new the sexual sins of sodom and Gomorrah...

The pagans, heathens and hooligans were the ones to engage in the sins of the bible and Torah.....

Jewish people were sentenced for Torah offenses,Jesus taught them about the forgiveness that was needed and GOD,s mercy for those sinners....

Sexual sin including the sin of homosexuality is condemned eternally.
 Quoting: christian


show me where Jesus teaches this.
 Quoting: Salt


JEsus said he never came to abolish the law, but to full-fill the law.


The laws of God, Torah are eternal.
 Quoting: christian


we already clarified this false teaching you are throwing out there.

scroll back. fulfilling the law has a very specific meaning. are we still required to sacrifice animals?
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the Jewish people did not practice homosexuality, never they were Torah observant and new the sexual sins of sodom and Gomorrah...

The pagans, heathens and hooligans were the ones to engage in the sins of the bible and Torah.....

Jewish people were sentenced for Torah offenses,Jesus taught them about the forgiveness that was needed and GOD,s mercy for those sinners....

Sexual sin including the sin of homosexuality is condemned eternally.
 Quoting: christian


show me where Jesus teaches this.
 Quoting: Salt


JEsus said he never came to abolish the law, but to full-fill the law.


The laws of God, Torah are eternal.
 Quoting: christian


what does fulfill mean to you? to me it means complete. as in it is done. but this is also another thread
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homosexuals are running to satanic religions because of this false teaching.

this is an important topic.
 Quoting: Salt


False teaching? Sheol and the lake of burning fire?
 Quoting: Xerces


sheol and lake of fire is a topic i have posted about quite a bit. i do not subscribe to eternal hellfire damnation for people. its another long topic.
 Quoting: Salt


It's quite simple. The second death is to be cast into the lake of eternal fire which will wipe you from existence. That is an everlasting punishment. Only Azazel and his puppets are going to burn eternally.
 Quoting: Xerces


we are pretty much singing from the same songsheet here.
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show me scriptures where Jesus Himself condemns homosexuality. because I am a bible student, and i can't find any.
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prove it with scripture
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show me scriptures where Jesus Himself condemns homosexuality. because I am a bible student, and i can't find any.
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huh?
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Jesus however said to adhere to the commandments. this would mean no sex outside of marriage, no adultery...
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And no homosexuality.

Hate the sin, love the sinner.

I am puzzled as to the purpose of this thread Salt. The only aroma it gives off to me is being apologetic for God's condemnation of homosexuality as an immoral act and trying to provide to others room to rationalize homosexuality as 'not that bad' because "Jesus didn't say it".

In truth, Jesus did condemn homosexuality although it was in the Old Testament, for He is the Great I AM Who spoke to Moses and the Israelites.


It is time for God's true people to live Ezekiel 3:17-21
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


gay people need God. my gay friends need God and are turning to dark arts because of this.

God's true people to live Ezekiel means live in the OT.

help me to understand this logic.
 Quoting: Salt


Everyone needs God. I have had best friends who are homosexuals. I love them, but I can't condone or approve of their lifestyle nor give forth any idea that what they do is acceptable in the eyes of God. One who truly loves God will seek to help lead souls to the foot of the Cross and departure from sin.

"Search the Scriptures... for they are they which testify of Me." John 5:39. There was no 'New Testament' in Jesus' day. The OT & NT together make up the Holy Scriptures. The idea that one chapter, book, or testament is more important than another is an unGodly doctrine.
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Jesus however said to adhere to the commandments. this would mean no sex outside of marriage, no adultery...
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And no homosexuality.

Hate the sin, love the sinner.

I am puzzled as to the purpose of this thread Salt. The only aroma it gives off to me is being apologetic for God's condemnation of homosexuality as an immoral act and trying to provide to others room to rationalize homosexuality as 'not that bad' because "Jesus didn't say it".

In truth, Jesus did condemn homosexuality although it was in the Old Testament, for He is the Great I AM Who spoke to Moses and the Israelites.


It is time for God's true people to live Ezekiel 3:17-21
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


gay people need God. my gay friends need God and are turning to dark arts because of this.

God's true people to live Ezekiel means live in the OT.

help me to understand this logic.
 Quoting: Salt


Everyone needs God. I have had best friends who are homosexuals. I love them, but I can't condone or approve of their lifestyle nor give forth any idea that what they do is acceptable in the eyes of God. One who truly loves God will seek to help lead souls to the foot of the Cross and departure from sin.

"Search the Scriptures... for they are they which testify of Me." John 5:39. There was no 'New Testament' in Jesus' day. The OT & NT together make up the Holy Scriptures. The idea that one chapter, book, or testament is more important than another is an unGodly doctrine.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


i completely agree that they are not two SEPARATE books. however, i am not convinced that anything outside of sexual immorality (lust, empty sex, sex without marriage, sex with multiple partners, promiscuity, prostitution, sodomy, fornication, and adultery) were considered sinful in the NT
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prove it with scripture
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yea what verse please?
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you do realize Jesus was speaking to the Jewish people, not the Gentiles, the Jewish people knew the laws of GOD, they knew and lived the Torah, Jesus did not have to tell them about the laws of GOD, they knew them, he
Had to tell them about the forgiveness and Mercy of GOD through the atonement of the Son of GOD, the promised messiah and his blood atonement for the worlds sin....


Jesus was the fulfillment of the LAW......
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prove it with scripture
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"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Leviticus 20:13, KJV


You do know abomination is a very harsh word, don't you.
...and it is servant not son by the way. What are you reading out of the misleading NIV?
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For this reason, I don't know why any homosexual would want to be a Christian. I urge all of you to quote Leviticus 20:13 to your Christian identifying homosexual friends.
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Jesus however said to adhere to the commandments. this would mean no sex outside of marriage, no adultery...
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And no homosexuality.

Hate the sin, love the sinner.

I am puzzled as to the purpose of this thread Salt. The only aroma it gives off to me is being apologetic for God's condemnation of homosexuality as an immoral act and trying to provide to others room to rationalize homosexuality as 'not that bad' because "Jesus didn't say it".

In truth, Jesus did condemn homosexuality although it was in the Old Testament, for He is the Great I AM Who spoke to Moses and the Israelites.


It is time for God's true people to live Ezekiel 3:17-21
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


gay people need God. my gay friends need God and are turning to dark arts because of this.

God's true people to live Ezekiel means live in the OT.

help me to understand this logic.
 Quoting: Salt


You are your brother's keeper, but all you can do is inform them of their error according to the word. YHWH will have to make the changes in their hearts once they meet HIM halfway.

Proverbs

14:7 Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.

14:8 The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit.

14:9 Fools make a mock at sin: but among the righteous there is favour.

26:10 The great Elohiym that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors.

26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
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"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Leviticus 20:13, KJV


You do know abomination is a very harsh word, don't you.
...and it is servant not son by the way. What are you reading out of the misleading NIV?
 Quoting: Chop's


For this reason, I don't know why any homosexual would want to be a Christian. I urge all of you to quote Leviticus 20:13 to your Christian identifying homosexual friends.
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YES, please do. Much better than continuing to lie to them.
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prove it with scripture
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oh haha. are you just sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling? if you find scripture give us a yell.
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OP, I did as you requested and showed you where Jesus indirectly spoke of homosexuality as it refers to marriage and gave you the line of logic that will lead you to understand that homosexuality is in fact a sin because marriage is between a man and woman and that sex outside of marriage is a sin. If a man can not marry a man then any sex they may engage in is a sin. The same goes for a woman.
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Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born? - Yeats, 1919
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OP, I did as you requested and showed you where Jesus indirectly spoke of homosexuality as it refers to marriage and gave you the line of logic that will lead you to understand that homosexuality is in fact a sin because marriage is between a man and woman and that sex outside of marriage is a sin. If a man can not marry a man then any sex they may engage in is a sin. The same goes for a woman.
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i agree, which brings me to the issue of gay marriage.
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the Jewish people did not practice homosexuality, never they were Torah observant and new the sexual sins of sodom and Gomorrah...

The pagans, heathens and hooligans were the ones to engage in the sins of the bible and Torah.....

Jewish people were sentenced for Torah offenses,Jesus taught them about the forgiveness that was needed and GOD,s mercy for those sinners....

Sexual sin including the sin of homosexuality is condemned eternally.
 Quoting: christian


show me where Jesus teaches this.
 Quoting: Salt


JEsus said he never came to abolish the law, but to full-fill the law.


The laws of God, Torah are eternal.
 Quoting: christian


we already clarified this false teaching you are throwing out there.

scroll back. fulfilling the law has a very specific meaning. are we still required to sacrifice animals?
 Quoting: Salt


Yeshua replaced the sacrifice as the ultimate sacrifice. The Torah is still valid regarding the statutes, commandments, and laws.

Thread: Satan's corruption in Christianity
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
-Dresden James

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
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prove it with scripture
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oh haha. are you just sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling? if you find scripture give us a yell.
 Quoting: malfunkshun007
Jumping on the bandwagon of misguided questions does not show much effort. Instead show me where the Bible says that this act and behavior is right.
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False teaching? Sheol and the lake of burning fire?
 Quoting: Xerces


sheol and lake of fire is a topic i have posted about quite a bit. i do not subscribe to eternal hellfire damnation for people. its another long topic.
 Quoting: Salt


It's quite simple. The second death is to be cast into the lake of eternal fire which will wipe you from existence. That is an everlasting punishment. Only Azazel and his puppets are going to burn eternally.
 Quoting: Xerces


we are pretty much singing from the same songsheet here.
 Quoting: Salt


We always have...but this topic needed clarification.
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
-Dresden James

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
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Sexual sins will not get you into hell any faster than lying, stealing, hate ect....


All sin is equal. While I don't really agree with a homosexuality on a spiritual level, I still never look upon any one who is gay as... "gay". Just another guy that should be treated respectfully and lovingly just like anyone else.

All sin is equal, it says this in the bible. If you lie then don't look towards a gay nd say he's going to hell simply for being "Gay".
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GOD's Laws are eternal, the TEN commandments do not have an expiration date.....
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you do realize Jesus was speaking to the Jewish people, not the Gentiles, the Jewish people knew the laws of GOD, they knew and lived the Torah, Jesus did not have to tell them about the laws of GOD, they knew them, he
Had to tell them about the forgiveness and Mercy of GOD through the atonement of the Son of GOD, the promised messiah and his blood atonement for the worlds sin....


Jesus was the fulfillment of the LAW......
 Quoting: christian


yea the isrealites did a great job living by the laws of God. i think we just see this 2 different ways. and thats ok. to me fulfillment means it is done. we are no longer sentenced to hell for our sins. the sacrifice was no longer needed and it was complete. i am not condoning sin at all. i am shouting about forgivness though. how can Jesus forgive us of sin that we should have been stoned to death for if we still had to follow the law. also remember that if the law is still applied then we cant pick and chose which ones to follow. so we better break out our alter and start offering up some burnt ones.
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Sexual sins will not get you into hell any faster than lying, stealing, hate ect....


All sin is equal. While I don't really agree with a homosexuality on a spiritual level, I still never look upon any one who is gay as... "gay". Just another guy that should be treated respectfully and lovingly just like anyone else.

All sin is equal, it says this in the bible. If you lie then don't look towards a gay nd say he's going to hell simply for being "Gay".
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Jesus is called a pais (Stong's G3816) in Luke 2:43. You might want to rethink your assertion.
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OP, I did as you requested and showed you where Jesus indirectly spoke of homosexuality as it refers to marriage and gave you the line of logic that will lead you to understand that homosexuality is in fact a sin because marriage is between a man and woman and that sex outside of marriage is a sin. If a man can not marry a man then any sex they may engage in is a sin. The same goes for a woman.
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i agree, which brings me to the issue of gay marriage.
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You already accepted the correct answer. A man and A woman.
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show me where Jesus teaches this.
 Quoting: Salt


JEsus said he never came to abolish the law, but to full-fill the law.


The laws of God, Torah are eternal.
 Quoting: christian


we already clarified this false teaching you are throwing out there.

scroll back. fulfilling the law has a very specific meaning. are we still required to sacrifice animals?
 Quoting: Salt


Yeshua replaced the sacrifice as the ultimate sacrifice. The Torah is still valid regarding the statutes, commandments, and laws.

Thread: Satan's corruption in Christianity
 Quoting: Xerces


...


show me where Jesus teaches this.
 Quoting: Salt


JEsus said he never came to abolish the law, but to full-fill the law.


The laws of God, Torah are eternal.
 Quoting: christian


we already clarified this false teaching you are throwing out there.

scroll back. fulfilling the law has a very specific meaning. are we still required to sacrifice animals?
 Quoting: Salt


Yeshua replaced the sacrifice as the ultimate sacrifice. The Torah is still valid regarding the statutes, commandments, and laws.

Thread: Satan's corruption in Christianity
 Quoting: Xerces


AMEN!

Thank you for speaking truth!
Susie

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