Portuguese opening in chess : killer surprise | |
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wisc_natureboy User ID: 14752297 United States 04/28/2012 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks. This opening is praticaly unknown ouside Portugal. U could beat most oponnents with it if u know the strategy and your oponnents dont ... Slay your oponnents with the portuguese opening !! I'll give it a try later this week. ;-`) We all breathe the same air. .-.. --- ...- . / .- .-.. .-.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14701263 United States 04/29/2012 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny you mention this opening, I was taught a counter to this "portuguese" opening in 8th grade. e4..e5.. Bb5..Kc6 And then as long as white doesn't do anything drastic Black's 3rd move is Kd4 Now the trap is set. From this position, you are protected by the pawn, attacking the bishop. Bishop retreats. Black plays Queen to F6, setting up a mate, and also many smothered mates as well. In fact, I won a tournment against someone in the 90's, probably 95, against someone who played white and played e4, I played e5, he played Bishop to B5 and I played my Knight exchange. Basically this entire opening for white only works if black attacks with the pawn, but as I said I don't do that. I would destroy you in a game of chess if you somehow think this is a portuguese opening that's never been heard of here before. As I said, I was playing against and beating this move in the mid 90's. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14701263 United States 04/29/2012 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You want a really strong, unforeseen, seldom used move that will incite terror into your opponent? e4..e5 d4 (it's a sacrifice). I've won thousands of games against people with this opening. After white takes pawn (which happens 90% of the time), I attack with a standard Ruy Lopez bishop/knight attack and completely ignore that pawn until later in the game. If you played against me you would see what I mean, but don't take my word for it, Try it! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15256754 United States 04/29/2012 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone here rated 2000 or above ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15256606 Your coments suggest that your chess level may be around 1600 or lower ... Correct me if im wrong. Yeah that looks like a pretty crappy opening. I used to play the Budapest Defense in tournaments sometimes though. It's fun. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15256606 Portugal 04/29/2012 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny you mention this opening, I was taught a counter to this "portuguese" opening in 8th grade. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14701263 e4..e5.. Bb5..Kc6 And then as long as white doesn't do anything drastic Black's 3rd move is Kd4 Now the trap is set. From this position, you are protected by the pawn, attacking the bishop. Bishop retreats. Black plays Queen to F6, setting up a mate, and also many smothered mates as well. In fact, I won a tournment against someone in the 90's, probably 95, against someone who played white and played e4, I played e5, he played Bishop to B5 and I played my Knight exchange. Basically this entire opening for white only works if black attacks with the pawn, but as I said I don't do that. I would destroy you in a game of chess if you somehow think this is a portuguese opening that's never been heard of here before. As I said, I was playing against and beating this move in the mid 90's. See 70 min 40 sec of IM Andrew Martin Video He sugests after Kc6 , d3 folowed by f4 with good position for white. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15256606 Portugal 04/29/2012 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone here rated 2000 or above ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15256606 Your coments suggest that your chess level may be around 1600 or lower ... Correct me if im wrong. Yeah that looks like a pretty crappy opening. I used to play the Budapest Defense in tournaments sometimes though. It's fun. [link to en.wikipedia.org] This is a GOOD opening acording to IM Andrew Martin. Its not played more often not because of unsoundness but more because of lack of publicity. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9024413 France 04/29/2012 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone here rated 2000 or above ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15256606 Your coments suggest that your chess level may be around 1600 or lower ... Correct me if im wrong. Yeah that looks like a pretty crappy opening. I used to play the Budapest Defense in tournaments sometimes though. It's fun. [link to en.wikipedia.org] This is a GOOD opening acording to IM Andrew Martin. Its not played more often not because of unsoundness but more because of lack of publicity. So, you took it upon you to get publicized... is that it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15256754 United States 04/29/2012 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone here rated 2000 or above ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15256606 Your coments suggest that your chess level may be around 1600 or lower ... Correct me if im wrong. Yeah that looks like a pretty crappy opening. I used to play the Budapest Defense in tournaments sometimes though. It's fun. [link to en.wikipedia.org] This is a GOOD opening acording to IM Andrew Martin. Its not played more often not because of unsoundness but more because of lack of publicity. Well if my opponent didn't know the Alekhine variation I usually could force at least a draw. Had some good wins with it. I usaully played the Petroff or Caro-Kahn with black though. Nimzo-Indian against QP openings. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14778565 United States 05/02/2012 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oi! O Senor, I had a look at the opening system and find to be of novel interest for white... while I do not like to respond 2...e5 as black (not ever), I am would like to explore this system further and accept your challenge with this continuation... 1. e4 e5 2. Bb5 c6 Boa sorte! and a good game... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15462046 Portugal 05/03/2012 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oi! O Senor, Quoting: Imajicatus I had a look at the opening system and find to be of novel interest for white... while I do not like to respond 2...e5 as black (not ever), I am would like to explore this system further and accept your challenge with this continuation... 1. e4 e5 2. Bb5 c6 Boa sorte! and a good game... e4 e5 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9867257 Bb5 Im waiting for your move ... The GLP chess contest has begun !!! Chess anyone ?? Thank U !! My move: Ba4 PS: Its not "senor" its "senhor".But Boa sorte is correct ! Obrigado ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15492408 United States 05/03/2012 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone here rated 2000 or above ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15256606 Your coments suggest that your chess level may be around 1600 or lower ... Correct me if im wrong. Yeah, I've been rated over 2000 for a long time. I first encountered this opening ten years ago. White isn't committing any crime with 2. Bb5 so sure, it's playable. But it's nothing for Black to fear in my opinion - he can do anything he wants in response. I personally like 2....c6. I saw a brilliant miniature with this in which the grandmaster played the black pieces aggressively, got a huge lead in development and crushed in about 15 moves. I think there's also a "Portuguese" line in the Center Counter but I've forgotten. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76042902 United States 04/21/2021 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Video: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15233395 [link to en.chessok.net] "Portuguese opening is a very extravagant debut that may be used in serious games. The lesson is led by IM Andrew Martin. It is difficult for Black to get the parity in this debut, according to Martin. 1.e4 e5 2.Bb5!. By the way, this debut has some ideas similar to the ones of Trompovsky Attack." That is the Ruy Lopez opening and has been around since the 1600's. Some also say it is the Max Lange attack. All Chess players who are serious get R.F. Green's book On Chess which has been around for over 200 years now and has all the traditional openings and their counters. |
Wharf Rat User ID: 79386534 United States 04/21/2021 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is the Ruy Lopez opening and has been around since the 1600's. Some also say it is the Max Lange attack. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76042902 All Chess players who are serious get R.F. Green's book On Chess which has been around for over 200 years now and has all the traditional openings and their counters. The video says this comes from the Scandinavian Accepted line, but it does kind of resemble the Ruy Lopez, so good call AC ~Wharf Rat |