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A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war

 
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A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
This guy should know, being an ex-defence minister - or is this part of a larger disinfo-campaign?

"A former Canadian Minister of Defence has joined forces with three Non-governmental organizations to ask the Parliament of Canada to hold public hearings on with Alien "ET" Civilizations. Paul Hellyer, Canada´s Defence Minister from 1963-67 under Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Prime Minister Lester Pearson, publicly stated: "UFOs, are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head." Hellyer warned, "The United States military are preparing weapons which could be used against the aliens, and they could get us into an intergalactic war without us ever having any warning. Mr. Hellyer went on to say, "I´m so concerned about what the consequences might be of starting an intergalactic war, that I just think I had to say something." "Time is on the side of open disclosure that there are ethical Extraterrestrial civilizations visiting Earth," a spokesperson for the Non-Governmental Organizations stated. "Our Canadian government needs to openly address these important issues of the possible deployment of weapons in outer war plans against ethical Extraterrestrial societies."

[link to rense.com]
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11/25/2005 09:15 AM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
Hewllyer does NOT ´know´ ETs exist. He has only been told they do by an American general. The point he is making is very relevant and I cannot see any disinformation lurking within his admission. The ONLY interface ETs have had with humanity other than those they abduct is with its military - think of Roswell and Kecksburg, for example. Now, how many loving, kind types can you think ETs will meet when a squad of soldiers, who would shoot even their fellow citizens if ordered, advances towards their crashed craft? No wonder the ´good´ ones mostly stay away! The ET issue is in the hostile hands of a priviledged few who merely want to take advantage of their captured technology in order to improve their country´s weaponry and to collaborate with the ´bad´ ones so as to maintain their power/control over us and to maintain global, military dominance. These people are a million miles away from the rest of us who want to receive ETs with kindness and to learn from - not exploit - their knowledge. Somehow, the issue has to de-militarised.
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11/25/2005 10:32 AM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
Having only the US military as source is suspect and invites suspicions of disinfo. The ulterior motives of the military are seldom or never to the greater good of people in general.
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11/25/2005 11:04 AM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
in American terms this would be like believing something Robert McNamara said, or here in UK getting a prediction off John Profumo. These people were in the know 40 years ago, i would be more inclined to believe somebody who is on the inside at the highest levels at this very moment, not somebody who is still fighting old battles from the 1950´s and 1960´s.
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11/25/2005 11:06 AM
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bump

PIN THIS
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11/25/2005 11:26 AM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
Its on DrudgeReport and Yahoo right now... [link to news.yahoo.com]
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11/25/2005 11:35 AM
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"send your letter to the Parliament of Canada requesting public "ET" Hearings"

[link to exopolitics.blogs.com]
star_dreams_initiative/2005/10/the_senate_of_c.html
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11/25/2005 11:35 AM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
208.

Absolutely.

Just because they were here 40 years ago does not mean they still exist.

Was that your arguement?

Because honestly, it is terrible.

Sorry.

Peace.
David.
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11/25/2005 11:39 AM
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We don´t stand a snowball´s chance in hell.
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11/25/2005 11:42 AM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
"We don´t stand a snowball´s chance in hell."

I do not quite understand what you mean.

DO you mean that we do not have a chance of hearing the truth from any government? If so, I might have to agree..

If you are saying we would not stand a chance in an intergalactic war... I have to vehemently disagree..

We are bioweapons. We were designed to destroy. WE may be the most dangerous species in existance.
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11/25/2005 11:45 AM
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"We are bioweapons."

Yes, that may work in the movies, but I think the aliens will be smart enough to get their shots before they land.
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11/25/2005 11:48 AM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
Sinanju, forgive me for not finishing my thought. I do respect your opinion and appreciate reasonable people like yourself offering comforting words to people like me.

My comment applies to your second statement. Now it is also a response to your third. Maybe I´m just shook up from watching War of the Worlds last nite, IDK.

Having an underground bunker is looking more appealing as time goes on.
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11/25/2005 11:53 AM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
Hah!

AS IF weapons built by humans are any match for a civilization hundreds of thousands of years more advanced than ours!

The US military could not shoot down ONE saucer when they tried back in 1942 over Los Angeles.
COGITO, ERGO, SUM
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11/25/2005 11:56 AM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
I am talking physically.. not technologically..

Our physical shells are vastly more powerful than any others races.

One or two humanson a rampage could rip to shreds dozens of alien lifeforms... only their technology gives them an adavantage.

Like someone else said.. they will just blast the planet from space. If they try to get "down and dirty".. we will win.
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
Intergalactic wars?, as in war between galaxies.., what about the more probable interplanetary wars. Why did he say intergalactic, that sound scifi-ish and pompous, wtf?
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11/25/2005 12:03 PM
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I don´t think he was being pompous...

I think he was giving us a messsage, that this is bigger than it appears...
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
"One or two humans on a rampage could rip to shreds dozens of alien lifeforms..."

On what are you basing this theory? If you mean the little guys with big eyes often reported, maybe.

But what about a race from a totally different atmosphere that were nothing close to humanoid? What if they were like 8 foot tall cockroaches?
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
Its quite possible that we have been raised liked sheltered children in the universe, and we´re about to come of age.
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11/25/2005 12:36 PM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
ID: 2276.. Uh.. maybe because they are from a different galaxy?
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11/25/2005 12:43 PM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
Interstellar maybe, but INTERGALACTIC!!!
Come off it!

Anyone here care to explain how far awy the NEAREST galaxy is.....?
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11/25/2005 12:44 PM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
Intra-Galactic?

lol
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11/25/2005 12:49 PM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
Our science is quite inaccurate on many matters.

It would be foolish to assume there are not ways around vast distances. Simply because we don´t know of them yet...

Except that even we have conceived of wormholes, other dimensions, and warp power.

That´s three ways, right there. To travel "impossible" distances quickly.

Peace.
David.

Here, go find out how Einstein and Newton were wrong.
Thefinaltheory.com
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
ID: 15676 ... who cares how far the next galaxy is.. distance is obviously not a factor for ETs.. And when the guy says intergalactic war.. it just mean it is a possibility that includes other possibilities like interplanetary wars , etc...
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Hmmmm
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
Now THIS is an interesting realitry to wake-up to!

It´s all about the timing. Why now? What´s happening now to call for this urgent disclosure?

And...this speech was given on September 25th. Why the delay in it making the news?

Think on this. Reagan tried 3 times to warn us, but nobody paid serious attention.

The first, in a December 4, 1985, speech at the Fallston High School in Maryland - "...how easy [Gorbachev´s] task and mine might be...if suddenly there was a threat to this world from some other species from another planet outside in the universe."

Next, from Reagen´s address to the United Nations General Assembly on Sept. 21, 1987 - "I occasionally think, how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask is not an alien force ALREADY among us?"

Finally, from a Q&A that took place after a speech Reagan gave to the National Strategy Forum in Chicago - "...what if all of us in the world discovered that we were threatened by an outer -- a power from outer space, from another planet."

Just a voice from the past...and food for thought.
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11/25/2005 01:37 PM
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
I talked about this on my show last Sunday...it was in the news last week in places not in the US at least. And do not think that people in government have no idea. Canada also has had an airforce for a number of decades and their own UFO experiences. This minister also admitted the existence of chemtrails in Canada a few years back.
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
Hellyer´s a nut. He´s the one who started the merge all of our military branches together in the 60´s. The most he ever was while in the Forces was a low ranking enlisted man (MstrCpl).

Pshaw I say. Pshaw.
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Earth First!
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
the final theory sucks in many many many ways
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Re: A former Canadian Minister of Defence says "UFO´s as real as airplanes" - warns against an intergalactic war
what show Monty, u mean the one on the freggin Live365 free radio prg. anyone can download. You shmuck!


damned
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1165 I do not know WTF you´re talking about....sorry.

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