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Canada's bank bailout bigger than U.S.!

 
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04/30/2012 09:49 PM
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i can tell u for a certainty there is a massive housing bubble in bc...lets take coquitlam...a vancouver suburb for instance....bought my first house there in 2002 for 250k....it is now worth 900k....its a joke...the numbers mean nothing since if i sell it i have to buy somethihng again....this place is gonna go down hard,and soon...not to mention they wiped out the underground bc bud business...which conservatively pumped billions into bc's economy/....im moving to northern alberta to hit the oil sands before it goes down....




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i can tell u for a certainty there is a massive housing bubble in bc...lets take coquitlam...a vancouver suburb for instance....bought my first house there in 2002 for 250k....it is now worth 900k....its a joke...the numbers mean nothing since if i sell it i have to buy somethihng again....this place is gonna go down hard,and soon...not to mention they wiped out the underground bc bud business...which conservatively pumped billions into bc's economy/....im moving to northern alberta to hit the oil sands before it goes down....




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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10220293


The consequences this time in Canada are unknown, since we’ve never had a housing bubble based on emergency interest rates, cash-back mortgages, variable-rate loans and government lender insurance. Add to that a rapid and building oversupply of housing stock, economic lethargy and a Boomer tsunami, and little F is right to freak out. Very few people are ready for what comes next.

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04/30/2012 10:11 PM
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yeah, but they are drilling themselves out of their hole and running away from socialism.
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04/30/2012 10:13 PM
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Time to start stockpiling the poutine, ya hosers!!! cool2
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04/30/2012 10:15 PM
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same banks same money no difference,same banksters, these are international banksters, its like taking money from the back pocket and putting into the front pocket.
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04/30/2012 10:18 PM
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5a
It seems to work so well I remember a piece last week indicating that a US banking interest is BUYING up a number of RBC locations, reminiscent of the buyout of banks here in the US which were in the throes of failing. Anybody else see or hear about this?
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Sorry man. Way off base.

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Throughout the 2008-2010 financial crisis, Canadian banks were touted by the federal government and the banks themselves as being much more stable than other countries’ big banks. Canadians we assured that our banks needed no bailout. However, in reality, Canada’s banks received billions in cash and loan support during the 2008-2010 financial crisis—and the Canadian government has remained resolutely secretive about the details.

[link to www.policyalternatives.ca]
Between October 2008 and July 2010, Canada’s largest banks relied heavily on financial aid programs provided by the Bank of Canada, the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC), and the U.S. Federal Reserve—all at the same time.

Over the entire aid period, Canada’s banks reported $27 billion in total profits between them and the CEOs of each of the big banks were among the highest paid Canadian CEOs. Between 2008 and 2009, each bank CEO received an average raise in total compensation of 19%.


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By the CCPA’s estimates, that works out to $3,400 for every man, woman and child in the country. On a per capita basis, that’s more than what U.S. banks needed. The most liberal estimates for the U.S.’s Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) place the cost at around $3,000 per person.
 Quoting: Victorian


I read and wrote about his back in 2010. The Canadian banks at the time where very quiet about the issue and as Í commented back then, if everyone else was making money lending in a hot market and environment the Canadian banks had to have been doing it also.
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vargas the exiled

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04/30/2012 10:20 PM
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Let's just face it it's government in general that are screwing us.
 Quoting: JB 12752930


The government certainly made it easier for the banks to rain money on every living soul by insuring the mortgages with taxpayer money. How stupid is putting the population into debt (mortgage insurance via CMHC) in order to get the population into debt by way of mortgages at ever increasing prices?
Just how stupid is that?! EH?! I think it's the stupidest thing ever, and it makes me wonder who exactly is our government working for? Is there any country where the government isn't working for the banks?
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it isnt stupid.its all part of the plan.sabotage.once the smoke clears,they will try to establish a new world order.
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04/30/2012 10:28 PM
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3400 per person. They have raised fuel prices from 80 cents a liter to a 1.35 a liter. The tax revenue from the fuel increase probably paid for the bailout. they will continue to increase the tax on fuel to pay for entitlements.
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04/30/2012 10:29 PM
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they were all loans to the banks.. paid with interest. So infact the Canadian government is guaranteed to get all the money back + the interest.
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04/30/2012 10:35 PM
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they were all loans to the banks.. paid with interest. So infact the Canadian government is guaranteed to get all the money back + the interest.
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And where does the interest come from? Do they have a interest-making machine chugging in the basement somewhere? Or maybe it's also the Canadians who pay for this little help to the financial institutions? Because I'm sure the banks also will gladly pay my interest on whatever emergency loan I will desperately need. I'll go ask tomorrow morning, first thing.
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04/30/2012 10:37 PM
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Everything will get better. Haarper is diminishing the Environmental protection service and is opening thousands of mining projects that were on hold because of environmentalists
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04/30/2012 10:40 PM
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they were all loans to the banks.. paid with interest. So infact the Canadian government is guaranteed to get all the money back + the interest.

This is true, Canadian gov. makes money on this deal, and banks didn't want to use all of 114 billion, because its a cash loan with INTEREST....
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04/30/2012 10:43 PM
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they were all loans to the banks.. paid with interest. So infact the Canadian government is guaranteed to get all the money back + the interest.
 Quoting: Kitsune


And where does the interest come from? Do they have a interest-making machine chugging in the basement somewhere? Or maybe it's also the Canadians who pay for this little help to the financial institutions? Because I'm sure the banks also will gladly pay my interest on whatever emergency loan I will desperately need. I'll go ask tomorrow morning, first thing.
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we pay interest with mortgages and car loans to the banks and they pay to the gov., little less then us....
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04/30/2012 11:08 PM
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[link to www.policyalternatives.ca]
Throughout the 2008-2010 financial crisis, Canadian banks were touted by the federal government and the banks themselves as being much more stable than other countries’ big banks. Canadians we assured that our banks needed no bailout. However, in reality, Canada’s banks received billions in cash and loan support during the 2008-2010 financial crisis—and the Canadian government has remained resolutely secretive about the details.

[link to www.policyalternatives.ca]
Between October 2008 and July 2010, Canada’s largest banks relied heavily on financial aid programs provided by the Bank of Canada, the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC), and the U.S. Federal Reserve—all at the same time.

Over the entire aid period, Canada’s banks reported $27 billion in total profits between them and the CEOs of each of the big banks were among the highest paid Canadian CEOs. Between 2008 and 2009, each bank CEO received an average raise in total compensation of 19%.


[link to www.huffingtonpost.ca]
By the CCPA’s estimates, that works out to $3,400 for every man, woman and child in the country. On a per capita basis, that’s more than what U.S. banks needed. The most liberal estimates for the U.S.’s Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) place the cost at around $3,000 per person.
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they were all loans to the banks.. paid with interest. So infact the Canadian government is guaranteed to get all the money back + the interest.
 Quoting: Kitsune


And where does the interest come from? Do they have a interest-making machine chugging in the basement somewhere? Or maybe it's also the Canadians who pay for this little help to the financial institutions? Because I'm sure the banks also will gladly pay my interest on whatever emergency loan I will desperately need. I'll go ask tomorrow morning, first thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11363251


we pay interest with mortgages and car loans to the banks and they pay to the gov., little less then us....
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The mind boggles at the amount of ponziness.
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04/30/2012 11:12 PM
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A lot of Butthurt Canadians in this thread lmao
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04/30/2012 11:19 PM
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damn.

im glad i live in Alberta at least. some other provinces are not going to make it out of this so well.
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05/01/2012 12:11 AM
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Canadian real estate market to be hit hard this year, along with Australia. China is their lynchpin and they are in trouble.
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I hope so. There needs to be a price correction.

It don't think the hot areas, Toronto and Vancouver, will ever be hit. It's crazy how expensive a basic home is ($800,000) I'm not kidding. You could buy four the same size in the States.

Too many rich people in China. I don't think it will be hit.
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Canadian real estate market to be hit hard this year, along with Australia. China is their lynchpin and they are in trouble.
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Yep I feel so, too.

Tried to convince two friends to wait til 2013 to buy. None listened.
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What about the two hot markets, Vancouver and Toronto? Do you think prices will come down for houses?
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UPDATE:
“These funding measures were put in place to ensure that credit was available to lend to businesses and consumers to help the economy through the recession. These funding measures were not put in place because banks were in financial difficulty.”
[link to www.huffingtonpost.ca]

You have got to be kidding me! This is the banker's response to the report:
We did not need a bailout, we just had to put this debt on your tab in order to lend the money back to you!
WOW, just WOW!
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05/01/2012 12:41 AM
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in Toronto the condo market is on fire they're still building new condos. Too much money there fueling the boom. To foreigners the Canadian real estate market is seen as a good investment market. In the greater delta area of BC the immigrants (Hong Kong primarily) are driving the market higher and higher so much so regular Canadians can't afford it. Can't forget Calgary, real estate is rising higher and higher too. The bubble will burst it's only a matter of time; not likely to happen any time soon though.

Funny how Harper's government is able to keep much of what they do hidden from the public. At least in the States all "moves" seem to be transparent.

It really doesn't matter folks as a global community we are all fucked. Shit like this only prolongs the agony
Victorian  (OP)

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05/01/2012 12:56 AM
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Thanks for the bad karma fucktard.

You're an idiot! There are 300 million in the US and 30 million in Canada. Moran!

It's per capita!!!!!!!!!!!!pick
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Thanks for the bad karma fucktard.

You're an idiot! There are 300 million in the US and 30 million in Canada. Moran!

It's per capita!!!!!!!!!!!!pick
 Quoting: Victorian


cruise
axis mutatis

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05/01/2012 01:11 AM
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who cares,CANADA OWES $582,368,631,898. and thats $17000+ per individual canuck.


AMERICA OWES $15,690.000,000,000+ and thats
$50,000+ per individual yankie.


and these fucks get on our cases to pay our bills on time and to manage and keep our shit together.We as citizens are not allowed to screw up but these countries and big banks can fuk up and they get rewarded for it..
TIME is a resource,
but its a different kind of resource.You cant buy it, rent it, borrow it, store it, save it, renew it or multiply it. All you can do is spend it.
And unlike other resources..such as talent, education, or money..we all have the exact same amount of time. It’s the only aspect of our lives where we are all truly equal.
Victorian  (OP)

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05/01/2012 01:30 AM
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who cares,CANADA OWES $582,368,631,898. and thats $17000+ per individual canuck.


AMERICA OWES $15,690.000,000,000+ and thats
$50,000+ per individual yankie.


and these fucks get on our cases to pay our bills on time and to manage and keep our shit together.We as citizens are not allowed to screw up but these countries and big banks can fuk up and they get rewarded for it..
 Quoting: axis mutatis


^That
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05/01/2012 01:33 AM
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Anyone seen my tuke? eh?
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05/01/2012 01:34 AM
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the puerto rico of the north needs being dealt with


expect black helicopters monitoring the situation
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Anyone seen my tuke? eh?
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It's touque.

And yes my home territory has been completely overrun by too many wannabee fuken trustafarian Americans posing as real Canadiens.
Victorian  (OP)

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Anyone seen my tuke? eh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15345924


It's touque.

And yes my home territory has been completely overrun by too many wannabee fuken trustafarian Americans posing as real Canadiens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14998685


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