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A Question of Doom Priority

 
mikebo2
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A Question of Doom Priority
A 2 sided scenario:

A major event is to take place in a certain place.
The Threat of Terrorism is real.

Which scenario do you choose?

1. The government takes precautions and tries to protect against all possibilities of a terrorist attack. This includes spy cameras and missiles on roof tops and planned evacuation routes and road blocks and military personnel on alert to take over(Martial Law) if needed.

2. The government does very little and does not plan for the worst case scenario. They don't have evacuation plans, They allow the people to move freely and hope nothing happens.


A terrorist activity does indeed occur. Many people are hurt and killed and it is feared that a harmful gas or biological weapon was released.


Now, Which scenario do you choose?
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Re: A Question of Doom Priority
Shameful update to try to promote debate on my part.


Imagine you are a leader of the community that is(possibly) in harms way.

What do you do?
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04/30/2012 08:21 PM

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Re: A Question of Doom Priority
Sad... But I knew I would have to keep bumping this thread.

People on this forum are generally not interested in asking themselves tough questions.
They just like bitching and blaming and scaring people.
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04/30/2012 08:25 PM
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Re: A Question of Doom Priority
Your first problem is thinking the government could or would stop the attack.All of the security measures you spoke of really do next to nothing to stop a terrorist attack,unless the borders are secure.

Your second is that people are helpless and dependent on a government for there well being.While some may be,most are not.Community is the key to safety,not government involvement.

The government(federal) has one job.To secure the state by protecting borders.If they did just that job would they not eliminate the scenario you are asking about?If they did that job there is no need for a police state,evacuation plans,or for citizens to give up any rights for "protection". If the government focused the effort at the border and spent the resources available to it would missiles on roof tops be needed?

So I offer a third option to your question.

The government does the job of protecting citizens by protecting the borders,thus eliminating a possible attack before it happens not dealing with the aftermath.
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04/30/2012 08:34 PM

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Your first problem is thinking the government could or would stop the attack.All of the security measures you spoke of really do next to nothing to stop a terrorist attack,unless the borders are secure.

Your second is that people are helpless and dependent on a government for there well being.While some may be,most are not.Community is the key to safety,not government involvement.

The government(federal) has one job.To secure the state by protecting borders.If they did just that job would they not eliminate the scenario you are asking about?If they did that job there is no need for a police state,evacuation plans,or for citizens to give up any rights for "protection". If the government focused the effort at the border and spent the resources available to it would missiles on roof tops be needed?

So I offer a third option to your question.

The government does the job of protecting citizens by protecting the borders,thus eliminating a possible attack before it happens not dealing with the aftermath.
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Well stated and I agree for the most part.

However, you are describing a perfect government... which does not exist.

We must deal with the cards that we have, not the ones we wish we had.

My scenario is very real. We have 2 things coming up that require, just these questions that I have put forth.
Chicago
and
London
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04/30/2012 08:40 PM

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bump
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04/30/2012 08:56 PM

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Re: A Question of Doom Priority
I'm guessing that if this thread stated that GIANT ANTS ARE ATTACKING PORTLAND... I would have lots of posting.

Sorry, This thread requires deep thinking.
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Your first problem is thinking the government could or would stop the attack.All of the security measures you spoke of really do next to nothing to stop a terrorist attack,unless the borders are secure.

Your second is that people are helpless and dependent on a government for there well being.While some may be,most are not.Community is the key to safety,not government involvement.

The government(federal) has one job.To secure the state by protecting borders.If they did just that job would they not eliminate the scenario you are asking about?If they did that job there is no need for a police state,evacuation plans,or for citizens to give up any rights for "protection". If the government focused the effort at the border and spent the resources available to it would missiles on roof tops be needed?

So I offer a third option to your question.

The government does the job of protecting citizens by protecting the borders,thus eliminating a possible attack before it happens not dealing with the aftermath.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13965468


Well stated and I agree for the most part.

However, you are describing a perfect government... which does not exist.

We must deal with the cards that we have, not the ones we wish we had.

My scenario is very real. We have 2 things coming up that require, just these questions that I have put forth.
Chicago
and
London
 Quoting: mikebo2


There is no point in option one.It will not prevent anything.That said option two is unrealistic,doing nothing to prepare for large events is just stupid.

So how about option 4.
Put plans in place to deal with your inevitable failure to prevent the attack.Put the resources(physical)toward dealing with an attack after it occurs,put your intelligence assets to preventing an attack.

You could wall off the entire city,and not prevent an attack.Surface to air missiles and tanks will not stop a man with an ink pen sized vile from throwing it to the ground in a crowd,nor would it stop a suicide bomb of any type.

The reality is bad things have and will happen in the world.Try to deal with the most likely with out over reacting and set up to deal with an eventual event happening.Do not use fear of an event as a reason to curb freedoms or you become an event to the people you think you are protecting.

As in all things in life.Prepare but do not act irrationally and do not give up freedoms and liberty for the sake of safety or you have already lost.

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