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Paul Krugman vs Ron Paul

 
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Paul Krugman vs Ron Paul

(Ron) Paul is unique among the GOP contenders, or for that matter among politicians in general, in making monetary policy his signature issue. So itís worth noting that he is among those who have been wrong about everything in this slump.

Iím sure that the Paulistas will find a way to claim that their man has been right about everything, even though his predictions have been all wrong. But he really has built his political career around the notion that heís an expert in a subject about which he actually understands nothing.

[link to krugman.blogs.nytimes.com]
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April 30 (Bloomberg) -- Nobel-prize winning economist Paul Krugman and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul talk about inflation, monetary policy and the role of the Federal Reserve. They speak on Bloomberg Television's "Street Smart."
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Krugman lost big time
Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

From page 405 of Rockefeller's 2002 book Memoirs.

A vote for the lesser of two evils is
still a vote for evil

"those that don't ask questions have no options"

Ron Paul 2008!
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There was a previous thread on this that went no where, OP.

I watched it and thought it was fairly decent.

Both looked a bit nervous.


Ron Paul likes to read economic stuff and has no doubt read some of Krugman's writings, but for the life of me I have no idea why Professor Krugman thinks that more government spending and Federal Reserve manipulations will solve anything in the long run. It only makes matters worse and at this stage of debt to GDP, more spending is not the answer. Ironically enough, the old Marxist tenants of 'means of production' and 'capital' as the source of tangible wealth creation has long since lost meaning when 'money = capital' that the FED can just create out of computerized journal entries.
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inflation and increasing the money supply is theft to anyone saving dollars.
Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

From page 405 of Rockefeller's 2002 book Memoirs.

A vote for the lesser of two evils is
still a vote for evil

"those that don't ask questions have no options"

Ron Paul 2008!
Quayle shows email me: puppystaygo@sogetthis.com
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The Pauls debate.

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The Pauls debate.

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(Ron) Paul is unique among the GOP contenders, or for that matter among politicians in general, in making monetary policy his signature issue. So itís worth noting that he is among those who have been wrong about everything in this slump.

Iím sure that the Paulistas will find a way to claim that their man has been right about everything, even though his predictions have been all wrong. But he really has built his political career around the notion that heís an expert in a subject about which he actually understands nothing.

[link to krugman.blogs.nytimes.com]
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Krugman is a LEFT WING NUT.

bsmetar
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(Ron) Paul is unique among the GOP contenders, or for that matter among politicians in general, in making monetary policy his signature issue. So itís worth noting that he is among those who have been wrong about everything in this slump.

Iím sure that the Paulistas will find a way to claim that their man has been right about everything, even though his predictions have been all wrong. But he really has built his political career around the notion that heís an expert in a subject about which he actually understands nothing.

[link to krugman.blogs.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15340776


Krugman is a LEFT WING NUT.

:bsmetar:
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Reaganomics is a RIGHT WING SCAM that has bankrupted this country.
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I watched this live Ron Paul won hands down
everything in its right place
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(Ron) Paul is unique among the GOP contenders, or for that matter among politicians in general, in making monetary policy his signature issue. So itís worth noting that he is among those who have been wrong about everything in this slump.

Iím sure that the Paulistas will find a way to claim that their man has been right about everything, even though his predictions have been all wrong. But he really has built his political career around the notion that heís an expert in a subject about which he actually understands nothing.

[link to krugman.blogs.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15340776


Krugman is a LEFT WING NUT.

bsmetar
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Reaganomics is a RIGHT WING SCAM that has bankrupted this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15341338


Actually Bill Clinton did that with his repeal of Glass Steagall....and then the ENDLESS spending ensued.
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There was a previous thread on this that went no where, OP.

I watched it and thought it was fairly decent.

Both looked a bit nervous.


Ron Paul likes to read economic stuff and has no doubt read some of Krugman's writings, but for the life of me I have no idea why Professor Krugman thinks that more government spending and Federal Reserve manipulations will solve anything in the long run. It only makes matters worse and at this stage of debt to GDP, more spending is not the answer. Ironically enough, the old Marxist tenants of 'means of production' and 'capital' as the source of tangible wealth creation has long since lost meaning when 'money = capital' that the FED can just create out of computerized journal entries.
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It's the fallacy of man. He is so convinced that he cannot see the forest for the trees
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lol Ron Paul owns this guy. Ron Paul clearly compared his fiscal policy to some government beginning with the letter B, and the guy was like, I'm not like that government! Totally diverts the conversation.

Ron Paul OWNS.
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(Ron) Paul is unique among the GOP contenders, or for that matter among politicians in general, in making monetary policy his signature issue. So itís worth noting that he is among those who have been wrong about everything in this slump.

Iím sure that the Paulistas will find a way to claim that their man has been right about everything, even though his predictions have been all wrong. But he really has built his political career around the notion that heís an expert in a subject about which he actually understands nothing.

[link to krugman.blogs.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15340776


Krugman is a LEFT WING NUT.

bsmetar
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Reaganomics is a RIGHT WING SCAM that has bankrupted this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15341338


Actually Bill Clinton did that with his repeal of Glass Steagall....and then the ENDLESS spending ensued.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


actually the dollar is worth 1% or even less of what it was before the fed took over in 1913... wait till wiemar inflation to arrive soon enough
Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

From page 405 of Rockefeller's 2002 book Memoirs.

A vote for the lesser of two evils is
still a vote for evil

"those that don't ask questions have no options"

Ron Paul 2008!
Quayle shows email me: puppystaygo@sogetthis.com
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Re: Paul Krugman vs Ron Paul

(Ron) Paul is unique among the GOP contenders, or for that matter among politicians in general, in making monetary policy his signature issue. So itís worth noting that he is among those who have been wrong about everything in this slump.

Iím sure that the Paulistas will find a way to claim that their man has been right about everything, even though his predictions have been all wrong. But he really has built his political career around the notion that heís an expert in a subject about which he actually understands nothing.

[link to krugman.blogs.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15340776


Krugman is a LEFT WING NUT.

:bsmetar:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Reaganomics is a RIGHT WING SCAM that has bankrupted this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15341338


Actually Bill Clinton did that with his repeal of Glass Steagall....and then the ENDLESS spending ensued.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


The repeal of Glass-Steagall was supported by 100% of the repubs and it was spearheaded by Phil Gramm. Clinton was mistaken to go along with it.

As far as spending into trillions in debt, that began with Reagan TRIPLING the national debt. It's only been under control once since then, under the Democratic Clinton administration.



Gummer, I know you think you know politics extraordinarily well, but the sad truth is your underanding is childish and ridiculous and your opinions are just lowbrow rethuglican horseshit, no more valuable than the idiocy that Sarah Palin spews.
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Krugman is a LEFT WING NUT.

:bsmetar:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Reaganomics is a RIGHT WING SCAM that has bankrupted this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15341338


Actually Bill Clinton did that with his repeal of Glass Steagall....and then the ENDLESS spending ensued.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


The repeal of Glass-Steagall was supported by 100% of the repubs and it was spearheaded by Phil Gramm. Clinton was mistaken to go along with it.

As far as spending into trillions in debt, that began with Reagan TRIPLING the national debt. It's only been under control once since then, under the Democratic Clinton administration.



Gummer, I know you think you know politics extraordinarily well, but the sad truth is your underanding is childish and ridiculous and your opinions are just lowbrow rethuglican horseshit, no more valuable than the idiocy that Sarah Palin spews.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15341338



Reagan built the US back up from a second rate military status to the Soviet Union at that time, and the Soviet Union collapsed. Deficit spending is not good, admittedly, but the US was losing ground to communist interests at that time.

As for as the Clinton administration balancing the budget, that was largely due to a Republican House. Sad to see the Republicans have given up on balancing budgets, or that Cheney ever lived to say that deficits don't matter.
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There was a previous thread on this that went no where, OP.

I watched it and thought it was fairly decent.

Both looked a bit nervous.


Ron Paul likes to read economic stuff and has no doubt read some of Krugman's writings, but for the life of me I have no idea why Professor Krugman thinks that more government spending and Federal Reserve manipulations will solve anything in the long run. It only makes matters worse and at this stage of debt to GDP, more spending is not the answer. Ironically enough, the old Marxist tenants of 'means of production' and 'capital' as the source of tangible wealth creation has long since lost meaning when 'money = capital' that the FED can just create out of computerized journal entries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15271632


It's the fallacy of man. He is so convinced that he cannot see the forest for the trees
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it is the fallacy of man, krugman has a vested interest in maintaining his line. He can't back out of it. Or repudiate it. He has to continue in hopes that he is right. I believe that hope is all he has. When the reckoning comes krugman will get away scot free. He will deny he ever said any such things.
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Krugman is an idiot.
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Reaganomics is a RIGHT WING SCAM that has bankrupted this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15341338


Actually Bill Clinton did that with his repeal of Glass Steagall....and then the ENDLESS spending ensued.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


The repeal of Glass-Steagall was supported by 100% of the repubs and it was spearheaded by Phil Gramm. Clinton was mistaken to go along with it.

As far as spending into trillions in debt, that began with Reagan TRIPLING the national debt. It's only been under control once since then, under the Democratic Clinton administration.



Gummer, I know you think you know politics extraordinarily well, but the sad truth is your underanding is childish and ridiculous and your opinions are just lowbrow rethuglican horseshit, no more valuable than the idiocy that Sarah Palin spews.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15341338



Reagan built the US back up from a second rate military status to the Soviet Union at that time, and the Soviet Union collapsed. Deficit spending is not good, admittedly, but the US was losing ground to communist interests at that time.

As for as the Clinton administration balancing the budget, that was largely due to a Republican House. Sad to see the Republicans have given up on balancing budgets, or that Cheney ever lived to say that deficits don't matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15271632


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