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Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................

 
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Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................
There seems to be some confusion about whether or not the OT is to be followed. A testament is a will or a covenant. We still use the word today when we speak of a person's "last will and testament." These names indicate that the Bible is composed of two wills of God an old will and a new will.

The change in wills is discussed in the letter to the Hebrews. In Hebrews 1:1-2, the author says, "God after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world." God has changed the manner in which he directs his people. This change was told in Jeremiah 31:31-34: "Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD.

The OT is still a part of our bibles because it contains examples for us so that we will not be caught unaware and make the same mistakes that the Israelites made we find that the Old Law(OT) is our teacher to bring us to Christ. Now that Christ has come we are no longer under it. We see that we can learn from the examples found in the Old Testament but when we must determine what God would have us to do today, we must turn to his current will which is the NT.

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Re: Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................
OP this same question was raised a couple of thousand years ago. The answer is in the bible.


But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. -- Acts 15:5


Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: -- Acts 15:24
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Re: Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................
OP this same question was raised a couple of thousand years ago. The answer is in the bible.


But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. -- Acts 15:5


Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: -- Acts 15:24
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15342376


The OT is the foundation for the NT but the OT would be impossible to follow
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
-Norman Bates

I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
-Tupac Shakur

Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
-Tupac Shakur

I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
-Tupac Shakur

I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
-Malcolm X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
-Malcolm X

When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.
-Dawn of the Dead

What an excellent day for an exorcism.
-The Exorcist
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Re: Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................
OP this same question was raised a couple of thousand years ago. The answer is in the bible.


But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. -- Acts 15:5


Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: -- Acts 15:24
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15342376


The OT is the foundation for the NT but the OT would be impossible to follow
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


So What's the deal OP? Trying to single handedly turn this site into The Old Time Gospel Hour?

:religion:
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Re: Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................
OP this same question was raised a couple of thousand years ago. The answer is in the bible.


But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. -- Acts 15:5


Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: -- Acts 15:24
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15342376


The OT is the foundation for the NT but the OT would be impossible to follow
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


So What's the deal OP? Trying to single handedly turn this site into The Old Time Gospel Hour?

religion
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20,000 post today alone I do not think so.
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
-Norman Bates

I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
-Tupac Shakur

Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
-Tupac Shakur

I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
-Tupac Shakur

I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
-Malcolm X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
-Malcolm X

When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.
-Dawn of the Dead

What an excellent day for an exorcism.
-The Exorcist
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hey OP you spelled Testament wrong in your subject line
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hey OP you spelled Testament wrong in your subject line
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thx for pointing that out
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
-Norman Bates

I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
-Tupac Shakur

Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
-Tupac Shakur

I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
-Tupac Shakur

I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
-Malcolm X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
-Malcolm X

When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.
-Dawn of the Dead

What an excellent day for an exorcism.
-The Exorcist
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Thanks OP


Unbelievers are under the law.


Once a person turns their life over to Christ......and indwelt by the Holy Spirit......born again of the Spirit.....they are no longer under the law......but under grace (unmerited favor).
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Thanks OP


Unbelievers are under the law.


Once a person turns their life over to Christ......and indwelt by the Holy Spirit......born again of the Spirit.....they are no longer under the law......but under grace (unmerited favor).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13424880


And then what?

With the help of God's grace, you must still choose to follow
Him.
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Luke 5:36
And he spoke also a similitude to them: That no man putteth a piece from a new garment upon an old garment; otherwise he both rendeth the new, and the piece taken from the new agreeth not with the old.
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YOU ARE IF YOU ARE IGNORANT OF WHAT JESUS TAUGHT, AND THAT IS 99.9% OF THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH.

DON'T BOTHER RESPONDING FOR WITHOUT THE PEARL, SWINE JUST FIGHT , PROFIT, HATE, AND KILL EACH OTHER.
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YOU ARE IF YOU ARE IGNORANT OF WHAT JESUS TAUGHT, AND THAT IS 99.9% OF THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH.

DON'T BOTHER RESPONDING FOR WITHOUT THE PEARL, SWINE JUST FIGHT , PROFIT, HATE, AND KILL EACH OTHER.
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what law are we under?
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Rather a fickle deity.

maybe she will change her mind again tomorrow.
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Thanks OP


Unbelievers are under the law.


Once a person turns their life over to Christ......and indwelt by the Holy Spirit......born again of the Spirit.....they are no longer under the law......but under grace (unmerited favor).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13424880


And then what?

With the help of God's grace, you must still choose to follow
Him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14488282


Of course 282. We must do our best to please the Lord.....although as a human.....I stumble quite often.


It is a legal concept which I spoke of earlier. Once you have complete faith in Christ....and have turn yourself over to Him......you are instantly justified.....declared just....declared "not guilty".....based on what Christ has done. (justification)


You are clothed in the righteousness of Christ.....and seen as white by the Father. It is a gift from God.....God's grace.....unmerited favor bestowed upon you.


Sanctification then takes place as you grow in the Lord. God helps you to become more mature... as any good Father would. Sometimes there is chastisement....but it is for our own good. Sanctification is the process of becoming more Christ like over time.....with God's help.
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OP this same question was raised a couple of thousand years ago. The answer is in the bible.


But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. -- Acts 15:5


Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: -- Acts 15:24
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15342376


The OT is the foundation for the NT but the OT would be impossible to follow
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Hey killuminati you might wanna know who's house you're posting in google search armageddon conspiracy, visit the link that has a .co and a uk and see if you can post that link to this site
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what law are we under?
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the Law of Christ

Help carry one another's burdens, and in this way you will obey the law of Christ. -- Galatians 6:2
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Re: Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................
There seems to be some confusion about whether or not the OT is to be followed. A testament is a will or a covenant. We still use the word today when we speak of a person's "last will and testament." These names indicate that the Bible is composed of two wills of God an old will and a new will.

The change in wills is discussed in the letter to the Hebrews. In Hebrews 1:1-2, the author says, "God after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world." God has changed the manner in which he directs his people. This change was told in Jeremiah 31:31-34: "Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD.

The OT is still a part of our bibles because it contains examples for us so that we will not be caught unaware and make the same mistakes that the Israelites made we find that the Old Law(OT) is our teacher to bring us to Christ. Now that Christ has come we are no longer under it. We see that we can learn from the examples found in the Old Testament but when we must determine what God would have us to do today, we must turn to his current will which is the NT.

[link to www.gotquestions.org]

We are still underneath the same God of the Old Testament which testifies of Jesus. Jesus created Adma and Eve and the creator and had several guidelines.



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OP this same question was raised a couple of thousand years ago. The answer is in the bible.


But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. -- Acts 15:5


Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: -- Acts 15:24
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15342376


The OT is the foundation for the NT but the OT would be impossible to follow
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Hey killuminati you might wanna know who's house you're posting in google search armageddon conspiracy, visit the link that has a .co and a uk and see if you can post that link to this site
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15341810


Is that code for something ?
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
-Norman Bates

I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
-Tupac Shakur

Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
-Tupac Shakur

I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
-Tupac Shakur

I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
-Malcolm X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
-Malcolm X

When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.
-Dawn of the Dead

What an excellent day for an exorcism.
-The Exorcist
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Re: Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................
Right...that's why Yeshua said that He clearly didn't come to destroy the law.

Matthew
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Last time I checked Earth is still here and has not passed away. Mosaic Law is still in effect.
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Christ Fulfills the Law

17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
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Jesus expounded on OT laws, Jesus was the burning bush and in the den with Daniel. Jesus quoted OT scripture, we are not under the Mosaic laws but under the 10 commandments still. That is the foundation of God. We follow 9 commandments as a Christian but the one that has to do with the 4th commandmenbt which tells us to remember because WE have forgot states to observe the Sabbath day. Made before any jewish, it is for mankind, amen...
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Right...that's why Yeshua said that He clearly didn't come to destroy the law.

Matthew
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Last time I checked Earth is still here and has not passed away. Mosaic Law is still in effect.
 Quoting: Xerces


And again...

Matthew - 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, YHWH: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Matthew - 22:36-40 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Yeshua said unto him, Thou shalt love the YHWH with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Yeshua was the word in the flesh, meaning that His life was lived by the Old Testament and He clearly supported it. Mosaic Law was not done away with when a new covenant was created.
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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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Under grace is not a free ride to sin, it means we have a high priest who is able to forgive us for our sins. On your deathbed you can refuse Christ and grace is not enough to save one, if we believe in the Lord we follow His commandments.
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OP this same question was raised a couple of thousand years ago. The answer is in the bible.


But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. -- Acts 15:5


Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: -- Acts 15:24
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15342376


The OT is the foundation for the NT but the OT would be impossible to follow
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Hey killuminati you might wanna know who's house you're posting in google search armageddon conspiracy, visit the link that has a .co and a uk and see if you can post that link to this site
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15341810

just google search it

Is that code for something ?
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Last time I checked Earth is still here and has not passed away. Mosaic Law is still in effect.
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So tell us about what you did last sabbath day. Did you join in with the sacrifices required under Mosaic Law?


9 On the Sabbath day offer two one-year-old male lambs without any defects, 4 pounds of flour mixed with olive oil as a grain offering, and the wine offering. 10 This burnt offering is to be offered every Sabbath in addition to the daily offering with its wine offering.
(Numbers 28:9-10)
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Right...that's why Yeshua said that He clearly didn't come to destroy the law.

Matthew
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Last time I checked Earth is still here and has not passed away. Mosaic Law is still in effect.
 Quoting: Xerces



Hebrew writers lists several proofs that the covenant between man and God had changed. Suppose that the law of Moses was still in effect. We would be forced to say that Jesus violated the law when he became our high priest. The law bound sin to men but Christ freed us from sin
Galatians 4:21-31; 5:1-4.
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
-Norman Bates

I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
-Tupac Shakur

Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
-Tupac Shakur

I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
-Tupac Shakur

I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
-Malcolm X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
-Malcolm X

When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.
-Dawn of the Dead

What an excellent day for an exorcism.
-The Exorcist
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Thanks OP


Unbelievers are under the law.


Once a person turns their life over to Christ......and indwelt by the Holy Spirit......born again of the Spirit.....they are no longer under the law......but under grace (unmerited favor).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13424880


And then what?

With the help of God's grace, you must still choose to follow
Him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14488282


Of course 282. We must do our best to please the Lord.....although as a human.....I stumble quite often.


It is a legal concept which I spoke of earlier. Once you have complete faith in Christ....and have turn yourself over to Him......you are instantly justified.....declared just....declared "not guilty".....based on what Christ has done. (justification)


You are clothed in the righteousness of Christ.....and seen as white by the Father. It is a gift from God.....God's grace.....unmerited favor bestowed upon you.


Sanctification then takes place as you grow in the Lord. God helps you to become more mature... as any good Father would. Sometimes there is chastisement....but it is for our own good. Sanctification is the process of becoming more Christ like over time.....with God's help.
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What a crock. Your OSAS preaching is an absolute lie.

GRACE is unmerited not our justification.

What Christ has done on the cross is...He redeemed mankind.

Protestants always confuse the two. Our redmdemption is not
our JUSTIFICATION.

Why does Our Lord say you must persevere to the end if
the "altar call" saves you? It doesn't.

Idiots preaching all you need is faith and you are saved,
they are all false prophets.


Shame on them.
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The OT is the foundation for the NT but the OT would be impossible to follow
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Hey killuminati you might wanna know who's house you're posting in google search armageddon conspiracy, visit the link that has a .co and a uk and see if you can post that link to this site
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15341810

just google search it

Is that code for something ?
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15341810


just do it
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Re: Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................
Before Jesus no one could perfectly keep the law but Jesus proved that it was possible to keep the law. Jesus showed that Gods law was good, it was man who was the sinner.
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Re: Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................
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Hey killuminati you might wanna know who's house you're posting in google search armageddon conspiracy, visit the link that has a .co and a uk and see if you can post that link to this site
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just google search it

Is that code for something ?
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just do it
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And get instant ban no thank you
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
-Norman Bates

I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
-Tupac Shakur

Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
-Tupac Shakur

I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
-Tupac Shakur

I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
-Malcolm X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
-Malcolm X

When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.
-Dawn of the Dead

What an excellent day for an exorcism.
-The Exorcist

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