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Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................

 
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christians.... what is sin? sin is as the Bible reads over and over, sin is violating God's ways, rules, LAWS! sin is not moral feelings... sin is and always will be when we go against what God wants, His Laws...how did Adam and Eve sin? by not follow what God said for them to do..or was it not obeying the snake? sin was obeying the twisted way over God's Law [do not eat] and because of that violation of God's law, it brought SIN and because of SIN, death came.

so you can believe that the LAW is gone and you dont have to follow it because a pope in 321 AD said or your preacher said if you do, you are trying to save yourself..., but if you do follow those words, you are doing the same as Adam and Eve, when they placed the twisted truths of a snake over the very words spoken by God. Just because you tell yourself and believe the twisted truth, it doesnt change that you are still violating and sinning against God and HIS LAWS...and to violate the LAW is sinning.


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SIN=violating the Laws/Ways of GOD [ONLY]




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No Law=no way to ever sin
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no way to ever sin=Everything under the sun is OK to do [no right or wrong]=no need to repent of anything
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So keep it simple and walk twisted free and snake free...walk in what is just written, rather than the vomit of snakes and blind shepherds.

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We are free from our sins, NOT THE LAW....sins are gone not the Way to live and learn to sin no more.
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2. I can understand if you're trying to say that the Christians are the figurative House of Israel, but in Hebrews 8:9 it speaks about how God saved the people from Egypt.
Was paul part of those people or his ancestors? From that we know that God was speaking with one specific group. The group that was led out of Egypt.

Unless you want to translate being led out of Egypt figuratively for the Christians, i don't see the connection.
 Quoting: scrubskillet


The Israelites rejected the new covenant, so the new covenant was given to the Gentiles.


42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(Matthew 21:42-43)


46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
(Acts 13:46-48)
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So does that mean jewish people are no longer part of the salvation plan?
“It was childish to feel disappointed, but childishness comes almost as naturally to a man as to a child.”
I. Asimov.
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2. I can understand if you're trying to say that the Christians are the figurative House of Israel, but in Hebrews 8:9 it speaks about how God saved the people from Egypt.
Was paul part of those people or his ancestors? From that we know that God was speaking with one specific group. The group that was led out of Egypt.

Unless you want to translate being led out of Egypt figuratively for the Christians, i don't see the connection.
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The Israelites rejected the new covenant, so the new covenant was given to the Gentiles.


42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(Matthew 21:42-43)


46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
(Acts 13:46-48)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16461930


So does that mean jewish people are no longer part of the salvation plan?
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John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.





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christians.... what is sin? sin is as the Bible reads over and over, sin is violating God's ways, rules, LAWS! sin is not moral feelings... sin is and always will be when we go against what God wants, His Laws...how did Adam and Eve sin? by not follow what God said for them to do..or was it not obeying the snake? sin was obeying the twisted way over God's Law [do not eat] and because of that violation of God's law, it brought SIN and because of SIN, death came.

so you can believe that the LAW is gone and you dont have to follow it because a pope in 321 AD said or your preacher said if you do, you are trying to save yourself..., but if you do follow those words, you are doing the same as Adam and Eve, when they placed the twisted truths of a snake over the very words spoken by God. Just because you tell yourself and believe the twisted truth, it doesnt change that you are still violating and sinning against God and HIS LAWS...and to violate the LAW is sinning.


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SIN=violating the Laws/Ways of GOD [ONLY]




-----------------------------------
No Law=no way to ever sin
-----------------------------------
no way to ever sin=Everything under the sun is OK to do [no right or wrong]=no need to repent of anything
-----------------------------------

So keep it simple and walk twisted free and snake free...walk in what is just written, rather than the vomit of snakes and blind shepherds.

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We are free from our sins, NOT THE LAW....sins are gone not the Way to live and learn to sin no more.
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Sin, the word, comes from same root as Spanish 'sin'[without] and french 'sans' [without]. It means "falling short". "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God", and in the case of the Mosaic Law, everyone under it fell short of keeping it until Jesus Christ kept it perfectly as one born under the law covenant. It was perhaps understandable that no one under it had been able to keep it perfectly because of ever-compounding inherited 'sin' or imperfection. This "sinning" or falling-short could, and in fact was meant to, demonstrate to those honest enough with themselves, the need for spiritual help. "Blessed are those conscious of their spiritual need" [More usually translated "Blessed are the poor in spirit."] The Apostle Paul, for instance was "conscious of sin's law" within him. He was honest with himself.
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So does that mean jewish people are no longer part of the salvation plan?
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No it doesn't mean that. All people are part of God's salvation plan, including Jewish people.


And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: (Romans 11:26)


31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. (Romans 11:31-32)
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christians.... what is sin? sin is as the Bible reads over and over, sin is violating God's ways, rules, LAWS! sin is not moral feelings... sin is and always will be when we go against what God wants, His Laws...how did Adam and Eve sin? by not follow what God said for them to do..or was it not obeying the snake? sin was obeying the twisted way over God's Law [do not eat] and because of that violation of God's law, it brought SIN and because of SIN, death came.

so you can believe that the LAW is gone and you dont have to follow it because a pope in 321 AD said or your preacher said if you do, you are trying to save yourself..., but if you do follow those words, you are doing the same as Adam and Eve, when they placed the twisted truths of a snake over the very words spoken by God. Just because you tell yourself and believe the twisted truth, it doesnt change that you are still violating and sinning against God and HIS LAWS...and to violate the LAW is sinning.


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SIN=violating the Laws/Ways of GOD [ONLY]




-----------------------------------
No Law=no way to ever sin
-----------------------------------
no way to ever sin=Everything under the sun is OK to do [no right or wrong]=no need to repent of anything
-----------------------------------

So keep it simple and walk twisted free and snake free...walk in what is just written, rather than the vomit of snakes and blind shepherds.

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We are free from our sins, NOT THE LAW....sins are gone not the Way to live and learn to sin no more.
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THANK YOU, Canada
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And even more we are not only just under the laws written before, on stone, papyrus, they are to be scribed in our hearts (and minds, spirits).

These fake believers in Yah (but who hate Yah and reject the Messiah) love the Death Bringer - also called the God of Light, Light-Bearer.

Quetzalcoatl is coming, and He (she) will fool all of them, becuase they love the liar and his stories that they will not die if they follow him.


Come with me, he says; I will show you some real fun; you want to see real love? Then, just do this....

Bye Bye, christian people.

You are toasts
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Oh, yeah, and the Muslims, same thing, except the Spirit of Peace (The Christ) will appear to them, as the 12th Imam, or Mohammed, (note he will be scarved with a red scarf, symbolic of Aisha's blood as he raped her)

and the jewish people, well, they will see Adonai.

Bye Bye, fools.
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Even Satanists: you think that you will be spared, as you are strong, and smart, and hate stupid people, and are 'no fools' yourselves; this is his ace in the hole, you are all pieces of cake for Satan, and you know he loves death, (look at pathetic Hitler? wouldn't you think that such a devotee as Hitler would have been given at least a little favour?)

Come ON. pEOPLE. yOU HAVE ALL BEEN DECEIVED, YOU ARE ALL FOOLS.

gO WITH THE EVIDENCE. PROVE IT TO BE TRUTH; IT IS OUT THERE.
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THIS IS WHERE THE EVIDENCE TAKES YOU:

Satan is not a saver. Satan masquerades as one when he has to.

He uses lots of your own mental idiosyncracies against you - each one, personally, he is not omniscient, but he has zillions of stars, demons working and observing us/your weaknesses, plus the added wisdom of millennia of human psychology to use against us.


Satan wants (as the evidence shows) and works toward one thing, and one thing only: To receive the world's worship as Yah, and to then, kill us all. You included.

Look at Hillary! My God, what a pathetic and depraved looking bitch.

Look at Oboma. How laughable. Hitler; how ...despicably pathetic, Satan HATES THEM ALL! EVEN HIS ARDENT SLAVES!
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fUCKING JUST SAY NO! GOD, PEOPLE, PLEASE!
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bUT you Christians make me sick; you are the worst, I think, because you have all this fucking history at your fingertips, and you espouse a love for the truth, but you hate it as is demonstrated by your actions and slinky words - you are the worst kinds of hypocrites.

At least, Satanists say they reject Yahueh. They are more honest, at least.
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What about those Catholic priests raping little children in the Vatican, in the Churches, old ugly hateful men, dressed in long red, white and black robes, waiting their turn at Vatican sex parties, which the Pope knows very well goes on in his city, even if he did not take part(which is questionable).

Uh, do you not think that Satan would at least honour those men and make them not so hateful looking, and ugly, and at least, make them seem ... human?

Uh, ... but no; Satan wants them all to be monstrous and degrade humanity; even THEM! wHO DO HIS DEMANDS!

WAKE UP. HUMANS, WAKE UP! YOU AIN'T SO SMART, IT SEEMS, ABOUT YOUR CHOSEN GOD.
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nice posts # 3514822 hf
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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bUT you Christians make me sick; you are the worst, I think, because you have all this fucking history at your fingertips, and you espouse a love for the truth, but you hate it as is demonstrated by your actions and slinky words - you are the worst kinds of hypocrites.

At least, Satanists say they reject Yahueh. They are more honest, at least.
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well maybe its you who make me sick. You denounce a whole flock of people because of YOUR theoretical idea of what the truth is.
tbh, to me anyways, you sound like much of the church pastors:
"Believe the way I preach, or your going to hell!"
wheres YOUR proof?
let me guess, you think Jesus=Zeus?
I can debunk that theory right now:
Zeus was a Greek god spelled much like DION with the "D" looking like a triangle, simular to his son DIONysis.
The translation for Jesus in Greek was simular to Iesus.
In Greek even there is no simularity between the 2. No where is it found Zeus (in Greek) when pertaining to the bible, or Christ.
If you go to the thread on this site called "JESUS=ZEUS" and go to the 6th or 7th page someone lists the site you can go to to find these things out for yourself.
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My mistake, its on the first page.
I have no luck on this site posting sites so you may have to type it out:
[link to www.toolong.com]

or: (this is where I right it out)
[link to www] (dot) toolong (dot)com /pages/zeus (dot) htm
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"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).

There's no point in trying to manipulate the scriptures to make your 'god' seem of a kinder nature. All that leads to, if you actually read the bible, is contradictions. The scriptures are full of them. You're just trying to find an excuse for all of the atrocities listed in the Old Testament. The truth is, there are no excuses.

Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

"Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)
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nice posts # 3514822 hf
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Why thank you I am very grateful for your kind words and scholarship here always, Shamar.

You have a lot to share, if only people will listen.

thank you for your help and input in the past pages.
I couldn't get on this thread til now, but am glad to see that there is one who loves the truth of the Bible - just that simple, pure truth, nothing taken away from it either - and nothing imaginary added to that truth.

Shalom to you and L'Chaim, Olam, to you and yours Shamar
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I mean, in the past.

About the words, the letters, their meanings symbolizing so many things
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Why thank you I am very grateful for your kind words and scholarship here always, Shamar.

You have a lot to share, if only people will listen.

thank you for your help and input in the past pages.
I couldn't get on this thread til now, but am glad to see that there is one who loves the truth of the Bible - just that simple, pure truth, nothing taken away from it either - and nothing imaginary added to that truth.

Shalom to you and L'Chaim, Olam, to you and yours Shamar
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tbh, i agree with you on this point, however its a shame how much has already been taken out or changed do to the RCC.
ie, the books left out of the bible.
That is some of the reasons people may find the bible to be somewhat contradictory, or even not understand parts.
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bUT you Christians make me sick; you are the worst, I think, because you have all this fucking history at your fingertips, and you espouse a love for the truth, but you hate it as is demonstrated by your actions and slinky words - you are the worst kinds of hypocrites.

At least, Satanists say they reject Yahueh. They are more honest, at least.
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well maybe its you who make me sick. You denounce a whole flock of people because of YOUR theoretical idea of what the truth is.
tbh, to me anyways, you sound like much of the church pastors:
"Believe the way I preach, or your going to hell!"
wheres YOUR proof?
let me guess, you think Jesus=Zeus?
I can debunk that theory right now:
Zeus was a Greek god spelled much like DION with the "D" looking like a triangle, simular to his son DIONysis.
The translation for Jesus in Greek was simular to Iesus.
In Greek even there is no simularity between the 2. No where is it found Zeus (in Greek) when pertaining to the bible, or Christ.
If you go to the thread on this site called "JESUS=ZEUS" and go to the 6th or 7th page someone lists the site you can go to to find these things out for yourself.
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Well, better to be sick now, than sorry, later, eh? Now's the time, cause so little of that remains, to read and learn.

I am only here for a few minutes, and saw your reply to me when I came in before, but had to leave, now I don't have enought time to answer you fully, Krime, but I will try to give you the best way I know how to in a few minutes, please bear with me, your questions are good, often I wondered about that Zeus thing too.

Nevertheless, it is still the Sun God worshipped in Christianity, per se, unless you are talking about people who really follow the Scriptural religion, whom may call themselves, still, 'Christian' which is not a good term to define belief in the Biblical Messiah, or of followers of Yah, Who is the Father Creator revealed in the Bible.

You did say something that I need to reply here and now to: that I have, in your way of thinking, ? - 'condemned a whole group of people based on my own theory'.

Not so, Krime; To clear that wrong idea you have up, it is not a personal theory, it is stated in the Bible what truths I have put here, they are not theories, - - unless you consider the bible to be a theoretical book; do you, Krime, 1) is your christian traditional view considered by you to be a theory? What actually are you basing your beliefs on? 2) If you do base your faith on the Bible, you must think it is a very strong theory. Is your religion a theory, like mine, in your mind?

When all taken in original form, and put the evidence together, the only religion in the world which is against, opposed and diametrically opposite to the worldwide religion of Old, "The Old Religion", the worship of Satan, in Sun/Moon/Star/Planet/Serpent/Fish/Sex form is the religion or precepts put forth in the Hebrew Scriptures, and including most of the New Testament, they all agree, when the evidence is taken. There is no religion on earth which is against the worship of the Solar Deity who has caused all this misery down thru mankind's history.

The truth is verifiable - the truths spoken in the bible, even the Bible that we do have, although messed, scattered, augmented, detracted, edited and changed by the 'lying pens of the scribes' and 'those who took away the key of knowledge' who wanted to hide truths therein, - enough exists in the bible we have intact to corroborate all history, archeology, and science, or rather, science and archeology corroborate the Bible's statements, years after historians and scientists have scorned and poured doubt on the 'fables' of the Bible, - not true, they say, just because they don't understand those facts to be real yet; then, when they are 'discovered' and verified by their ignorant scientific discoveries, they say nothing about having been wrong. I can see how you may then think that what I say is only a 'theory' in that we have all been led to believe that the Bible is a collection of fables by those who are either 1) ignorant and prejudiced, or 2) deliberately trying to obscure those certain truths it has put forth. I could gie you many many examples just that I know about but don't have time right now..

Let me see what your answer is to those questions, when I return later this week hopefully, and then, can answer you more better.

If my belief that the Bible is more literal than your belief, (I believe that the Bible means what it says, basically, and especially when it specifically repeats a thing - there is no room for belief that it does not really mean that literal thing) makes you angry, - why is that? I do believe that those who worship the Sun God and Queen of Heaven and Tammuz/Horus/Lucifer are going to be sorry, because the bible condemns it and forbids that worship, it is called an abomination by Yah, to Him, and to everything true and life-giving and decent; so I believe Him.

I do believe that your indoctrination and mine, (I was born a small Luteran child) have made our brain have some trouble with the idea that the majority is always historically been wrong. You can know that, if you read a bunch of history, and the Bible also repeatedly says that too. Well, I hope that this is more clear, to you Krime.

I also want to thank Sorcery, up there, for your clear stated facts about the Bible and the law, it is forever for all people, thank you for that as well,
I am repeating what the Bible repeatedly says, thruout the whole thing, Old and New testaments and manucripts not in the Bible, (which should be but were voted 'No' by pious Church 'Fathers') which does condemn repeatedly the worship of the Solar Deity and Queen of Heaven and false messiah.
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I'm sorry have to rush and leave but will be thinking of you all here and may Yah help us all...

time is running down, soon it will be out
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Thank you again, Shamar, and Sorcery
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First, I must point out that I was a little peeved because you state "Christians" as a whole in your statements.
Christian literally means "in Christ" or "of Christ" or "from Christ" like "Californian".
There are different sects, beliefs, faiths, and theories of what the bible truly means.
you seemed to condem every one of them!
I myself am probably considered "Christian" though I do not worship the sun, stars, earth, nature etc. I consider Saturday to be the sabbath, not the pagan day of sun worship sunday.
I study my religion, and will continue to study my religion.
It seems i learn new stuff all the time.
Like today for example:
I've read the bible 100+ times and was still under the assumtion Mary Magdalene was a prostitute, and that she was the one that put ointment on Jesus' feet. Not true according to scripture.
how do I veiw the bible?
Literal and as a parable. I find that all is to be taken literal, but there is hidden meaning in the bible as well.
However, my faith is not in the scripture of any kind. My faith is in God and Jesus that sacrificed Himself so that i may have a chance at eternial life.
yes I said YOUR theorys, unless you know the exact meaning of every word of the bible and can prove it as fact, YOUR thoughts about it remain YOUR theory, and I'd thank you not to condem others because they dont believe exatly like you.
May you could use the term "most christians" or "some Christians"?
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First, I must point out that I was a little peeved because you state "Christians" as a whole in your statements.
Christian literally means "in Christ" or "of Christ" or "from Christ" like "Californian".
There are different sects, beliefs, faiths, and theories of what the bible truly means.
you seemed to condem every one of them!
I myself am probably considered "Christian" though I do not worship the sun, stars, earth, nature etc. I consider Saturday to be the sabbath, not the pagan day of sun worship sunday.
I study my religion, and will continue to study my religion.
It seems i learn new stuff all the time.
Like today for example:
I've read the bible 100+ times and was still under the assumtion Mary Magdalene was a prostitute, and that she was the one that put ointment on Jesus' feet. Not true according to scripture.
how do I veiw the bible?
Literal and as a parable. I find that all is to be taken literal, but there is hidden meaning in the bible as well.
However, my faith is not in the scripture of any kind. My faith is in God and Jesus that sacrificed Himself so that i may have a chance at eternial life.
yes I said YOUR theorys, unless you know the exact meaning of every word of the bible and can prove it as fact, YOUR thoughts about it remain YOUR theory, and I'd thank you not to condem others because they dont believe exatly like you.
May you could use the term "most christians" or "some Christians"?
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Okay, that I will do. Most christians is accurate and better.

When the Bible talks about the Whole world being deceived by the anti-Messiah, it does mean almost all, but not all, however, we understand that it does not mean every last one, but most of them, it does mean.

It is good that you read and learn new things all the time, there is so much that has been withheld from us, like that evidence you found of 'Mary Magdalene' being basically the Catholic Christian Church, which is for a totally unnatural disrespectful position towards women, in general, and of jealousy and outright hatred of them, actually. Of anything good, or pure, or natural, or innocent. Why do they want to make like the Messiah from Yah was like their Solar Christ, unmarried, celibate? the evidence shown leans towards the real Messiah's being married. So? does that make any difference to us, if he was married, or not? Not to me. It just makes him following the natural plan of Yahueh, that is all. If he came to earth, to live as a human man, a human being, why would Yah wish to prevent him from having a natural married life? Why is the Catholic Church and Christian Protestant Churches so against the idea of his being possibly married? Don't we want to go where the evidence leads?

Catholic religion does not allow for naturalness or purity.

It is all filth and perversion, disrespect, and the protestants follow suit. It does not fit their image of the Solar Saviour-figure, who is not married, who is androgynous, debauched, and revels in man-on-man and man on BOY stuff which is why we see the same thing BEING PERPETRATED BY THE PRIESTS OF THIS RELIGION.

Keep up the work and efforts at uncovering the good stuff withheld from us, Krime, it is true, it is a crime, what they have done to us in the name of authority and religion.

A TRUE CRIME TO HUMANITY.
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Re: Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................
and to make clear something you said, wrongly above:

I do not condemn others for not thinking like I do, unless they are criminals, and then, I do, especially if they support the child raping priesthood of the Churches, then, I know you can empathize with my condemnation of them.

That is only natural, and I am human. Yah Who made us condemns that and many more things, He does, and He hates evil, and His hatred for it, and the evil-doers who deliberately ruin innocence and joy, He will utterly slay to pieces, and I for one am looking forward with great expectation to see and hear and feel that happening to them evil bastards.

yes, let it happen, as Yahueh of the Universe has said He will finally do. Let it be done.
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And those who deliberately hide truth from us? That is another case, in fact, these two areas are probably the only ones in which I condemned others, as you say.

But there is very good reason for it.

They are already condemned by Yah, so it is not me who is doing the condemning in the first place, I only agree with the hate of their deliberate evil, perpetrated upon us.

I think that you are confusing Krime, in that i do not condemn the victims of the priests, but the priesthood, who KNOW THEIR DEEDS and plan it deliberately to deceive us, the sheep, the trusting ones, who look up to them; we think they know, and they do know, what is truth and what is not; and they yet, do not respect that, or respect truth, at all, or respect the Creator, of Truth, of Life, and of them, too, - they just disrespect Yah and scorn Yahushua's repeated words of His Father, and scoff at his example, disreguarding all he did for them, and their sorry asses, and they deliberately lie to us, without shame, unceasingly, they hold on to their lies and look us straight in the eyes, without any blink, or remorse, and they LIE TO US, CONTINUALLY, WITHOUT ANY MISSTEP OR STUMBLING, THEY PROUDLY MARCH ON IN UNBLINKING UNASHAMED LIES TO US,

and this will not be unpunished.
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Re: Christians: We are not under the law of the Old Testament....................
There seems to be some confusion about whether or not the OT is to be followed. A testament is a will or a covenant. We still use the word today when we speak of a person's "last will and testament." These names indicate that the Bible is composed of two wills of God an old will and a new will.

The change in wills is discussed in the letter to the Hebrews. In Hebrews 1:1-2, the author says, "God after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world." God has changed the manner in which he directs his people. This change was told in Jeremiah 31:31-34: "Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD.

The OT is still a part of our bibles because it contains examples for us so that we will not be caught unaware and make the same mistakes that the Israelites made we find that the Old Law(OT) is our teacher to bring us to Christ. Now that Christ has come we are no longer under it. We see that we can learn from the examples found in the Old Testament but when we must determine what God would have us to do today, we must turn to his current will which is the NT.

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boy, are you in for a surprise, you cretin!

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