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Sammie (OP) User ID: 2220559 United States 05/01/2012 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | insightful shameless bump "Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow". ~Aesop "Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that. We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski "Grasping at things can only yield one of two results: Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear. It is only a matter of which occurs first." -Goenka |
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Sammie (OP) User ID: 2220559 United States 05/01/2012 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude, take a chill pill or something. You know all you're gonna do about it is sit on your fat ass in front of your computer. All talk, no walk. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195793 Not a dude and my ass isnt fat Thanks for your insightful response "Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow". ~Aesop "Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that. We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski "Grasping at things can only yield one of two results: Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear. It is only a matter of which occurs first." -Goenka |
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Being Mindful User ID: 15034709 United States 05/01/2012 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bolded text below is a re-post from a reply I made in another thread regarding another posters rally cry to over throw the government using force if necessary....really just an emotional heart felt rant from the poster due his frustration in the continual loss of individual rights, government abuse and the tyrannical system of control that grows larger day by day. Quoting: Sammie I feel my own personal rant on this requires repeating due to the severity and increasing speed of the world events that we all find ourselves in. This is it....our lives. This is our moment, our very precious, short and fleeting moment ....... what the hell are we doing with it??? Let's just cut to the chase regarding all this bullshit... -Occupy WallStreet -The daily ranting about our corrupt power elites -The endless garbage being fed to us by the tevee media that gets regurgitated here (and everywhere else in our lives). -The crumbling economy -The corrupt politicians -The welfare state -The race divisions -The endless wars -The cultural decay...... you get the point. This cycle is getting us NOWHERE. Is this fun? ? Is this entertaining for us? Is this what we have settled for.......watching the world turn crap as it speeds down the pathway to hell in it's poorly manufactured hand basket? Are we truly content to trade our substance for cheap plastic trinkets and fast served by-products? Do we really have any values? Is nothing sacred or meaningful anymore? Have we been reduced to animals of mere base pleasures? Where is our integrity as a species, as human beings, as individuals? We can do better than this. So I encourage people to open their minds, exercise their capacity for reason and grow the gonads to shed the dogma and rhetoric which only serve to enslave our minds and TAKE BACK CONTROL to stand on our own two feet. This is what MUST be said here and now. The world of lies is complicated but the truth is very simple. Regarding all the above mentioned bullshit, here is my response (re-posted) below. I would like to hear your thoughts. I don't have all the solutions, but I do know....our previous and current methods are only fueling the giant turd fire and it STINKS to all high hell. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ Non-compliance without violence is what you should be aiming for...with mass numbers of supporters. Only non-compliance will get the job done. Protest won't do it. Voting won't do it. Violence CERTAINLY won't do it. It's exactly what they are baiting and the people are out armed. Non-compliance. No violence. Non-participation in all forms of captial affairs with communities behind you, supporting each other, THIS is how change can occur. It is risky to all involved and it could mean the possibility of losing all possessions, being arrested, starvation or death. It's not a pansy gesture. Non-compliance takes HUGE balls. But if people are willing to take up arms then they should be willing to unite with their fellow neighbors, stop participating in the system that is only perpetuated by our labor and dollars. Quit work. Stop paying taxes. Stop paying your bills. Stop purchasing goods and stop obeying man's law which is not natural law. All unjust laws ought to be ignored. This is doable and TPTB know it. They also know that the people are becoming aware of this at an alarming rate which is why they are trying to piss us off, insight race wars, divide people and staging their state founded "opposition movements" like OWS. We all have the power to end this bullshit without ever having to pick up a picket sign, a riot baton or a fire arm. We have the power because we ARE the power and energy behind the system itself. We simply need to stop giving it our energy and power and instead redirect that energy in positive ways towards our community and fellow mankind. Without our labor and consent, they simply wither up and decay. They need us. We DO NOT need them. We need to keep reinforcing this positive message because we are not powerless. We have ALL the power. We simply need to harness it in the most effective and beneficial way. This is easy...truly, if we keep it simple. The truth is so simple and the web of deceit is so complicated. I'll take simplicity over complication any day of the week. They are directing and harnessing our energy into dead zones where nothing real can be accomplished and/or using it as a weapon to tear us apart by dividing us over petty distractions and trivial matters. Once we realize these simple truths and how easy it is to solve all this corruption without even having to break a sweat in opposition to them, they will vanish in thin air....quite literally. Turn off the tv. Don't Vote. Don't pay. Do not be led into traps. Unite with your fellowman, not against him. Our differences are small and petty in the face of this very real and common enemy. It's time to starve the beast. AJK added a very good point which I think is crucial for all of us to understand: Well said Sammie, and as an addendum look at it this way. What are government agents but public servants? That is to say, they are meant to SERVE US, we were never meant to SERVE THEM. If more knew this, we could challenge any authority on this very basis alone. They have no jurisdiction over us except for what we give them. If we don't give them said jurisdiction, they cannot take it from us because they don't have the right as public servants to do so. They have to obey us, we don't have to obey them. It's very simple, if we know who we are, and what our real power is, they cannot touch us. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ So let's just get real with ourselves. Let's cut the BS. This corruption we live in is either something we wish to abolish (change...move past...etc) or we are simply content to sit here pissing and moaning while we secretly crave this modern day "entertainment". What says you GLP? Are we merely dumbed down masses enjoying the circus show or do we really wish to move beyond this juvenile role that we have ALL been playing (in one way or another) that has brought us and keep us in our present circumstances? It's time that every man woman and child either nut up or shut up! We need novelty alright. We need it NOW and no one is going to do it for us. We are ALL responsible. The call was made long ago, yet we have been too busy watching clowns and freak shows in La La land to bother hearing it. I think it far past the time that we either walk the walk, or simply admit that this poor low brow art is sickly entertaining to us and we do not wish to let it go and evolve. What I'm saying is...... Let's get HONEST with ourselves. www.heavenletters.org |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2055160 United States 05/01/2012 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your alternatives will create a living nightmare for everyone. And yes i quit paying taxes and defaulted 2 years ago in protest to the bailouts. Nothing happened to me. Still alive doing a lot better now as a free person. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2055160 United States 05/01/2012 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is so easy.. Grow a set of testicles or she-nuts, stop paying income tax and strategically default on all your debt. It is called a Jubilee. Simply declare yourself free from the slavery of debt and interest rates and the machine stops tomorrow. Your alternatives will create a living nightmare for everyone. And yes i quit paying taxes and defaulted 2 years ago in protest to the bailouts. Nothing happened to me. Still alive doing a lot better now as a free person. |
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smokahontas User ID: 15358180 United States 05/01/2012 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't believe you're telling people not to vote as if it will empower them. Half this country doesn't vote already and shit is still fucked. I find when I vote I don't feel the need to march my huge cock and balls around to exert power because I did all I could do by voting. I get the satisfaction of actually doing something and can sit back with a beer and relax to some reality TV. Life is good. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195793 Voting is pointless, the ballot is rigged both sides play for the same team. the president is a puppet and has been since at least 1869. Study some history before you run your mouth "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley |
Joqui User ID: 4981301 United States 05/01/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't believe you're telling people not to vote as if it will empower them. Half this country doesn't vote already and shit is still fucked. I find when I vote I don't feel the need to march my huge cock and balls around to exert power because I did all I could do by voting. I get the satisfaction of actually doing something and can sit back with a beer and relax to some reality TV. Life is good. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195793 Voting is pointless, the ballot is rigged both sides play for the same team. the president is a puppet and has been since at least 1869. Study some history before you run your mouth Last Edited by Joqui on 05/01/2012 12:33 PM |
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WuDStefoto User ID: 15186261 Belgium 05/01/2012 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP - thanks for everything but Ive a favourite phrase from your text already : )) even this is enough """ It's very simple, if we know who we are, and what our real power is, they cannot touch us. "" they keep us blind to who we are soooo true and so - they can control us Hu-mans can be really advanced creatures//beings.. only if they knew it.. O_O peace ONE LOVE keep spreading & sharing xD These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop) -> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <- is the only way youths listen to the Prophets !!! PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT??? [link to www.youtube.com] rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D peace2daUNIVERSE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1195793 United States 05/01/2012 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't believe you're telling people not to vote as if it will empower them. Half this country doesn't vote already and shit is still fucked. I find when I vote I don't feel the need to march my huge cock and balls around to exert power because I did all I could do by voting. I get the satisfaction of actually doing something and can sit back with a beer and relax to some reality TV. Life is good. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195793 Voting is pointless, the ballot is rigged both sides play for the same team. the president is a puppet and has been since at least 1869. Study some history before you run your mouth At least I did SOMETHING instead of getting worked up on the internet and doing absolutely nothing in the real world. You had the privilege of being born in a free country and still manage to find something to bitch about. Why don't YOU study history and realize your wasting your time getting worked up over human nature and it's consequences. It has always been this way and always will be. You're time would be better spent taking 15 minutes out of your day to vote and feeding the homeless than surfing GLP and filling your head with bullshit. |
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Sammie (OP) User ID: 2220559 United States 05/01/2012 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't believe you're telling people not to vote as if it will empower them. Half this country doesn't vote already and shit is still fucked. I find when I vote I don't feel the need to march my huge cock and balls around to exert power because I did all I could do by voting. I get the satisfaction of actually doing something and can sit back with a beer and relax to some reality TV. Life is good. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195793 Voting is pointless, the ballot is rigged both sides play for the same team. the president is a puppet and has been since at least 1869. Study some history before you run your mouth At least I did SOMETHING instead of getting worked up on the internet and doing absolutely nothing in the real world. You had the privilege of being born in a free country and still manage to find something to bitch about. Why don't YOU study history and realize your wasting your time getting worked up over human nature and it's consequences. It has always been this way and always will be. You're time would be better spent taking 15 minutes out of your day to vote and feeding the homeless than surfing GLP and filling your head with bullshit. Voting is pointless. You can not change the foundation of a corrupt system through the methods developed by a corrupt system. It's not "getting worked up on the internet.......and bitching". It's simply dialog and simplicity is the beauty of truth. People need to connect with each and talk about issues of relevance. It doesn't matter if it's on the internet, the phone, a bar or office room. To begin discussing contradictions in the belief system is the logical start point. You don't jump into deep waters blind and without practicing a few laps in the shallow end to ensure you can swim, nor do you run before you can walk. To do otherwise is to take unnecessary risks. As a rule people behave in a rather predictable and methodical manner. First we have beliefs, a type of mental structure in how we perceive the world. Those beliefs shape our thoughts which in turn govern our actions and our actions, ultimately, manifest our reality. I see the above as a universal truth. It is a method and it's very predictable. So if we wish to alter our current reality, we must first begin by altering our perception.....our believes. We have to understand why a belief is either faulted (non-beneficial) or why it is valid. The beliefs we have are generally learned. They are taught or given to us by our family and community, as we learn cultural norms and acceptable/unacceptable behaviors during childhood. As we grow and become individuals, hopefully we test these beliefs we have been given. Truth is not given, it must be found. Therefore, it is necessary to discover the truth of these beliefs on an individual basis. We a belief is found to not hold up to the truth test, regardless of how long one has held such beliefs, he/she should have the courage and humility to accept a fallacy for what it is and abandon it accordingly, as fallacies have no place in the realm of truth, unless one wishes to live in the lie. And that is what I mean by being honest with ourselves. If we wish to live in false belief systems and in cognitive dissidence then we should at least have enough truth, somewhere deep inside, to admit we are liars or worship lies. Discussion and debate is an exercise for discerning truths and recognizing fallacies so that one may free themselves from false belief systems. It is only then that we find our thoughts aligned with true beliefs. It is only then our actions will be moved by those thoughts which are created out of truths, or at the very least that thoughts previously governed by false beliefs may be abandoned. Once abandoned, one has no motivation for false action as the thoughts for such can no longer arise. This is how one changes their reality. Collectively it is how we change the world. We are individuals but we are just as much part of the collective, for surly no man could have forged his way here on this earth alone. The individual can not even be conceived without first having been brought into existence by the mother and the father and then cared for until he might care for himself. The individual, as a sole construct existing on its own, cut off from the collective is therefore a fallacy. It is a false belief that must be abandoned as a truth that stands on its own. When a system or a belief is not in tune with the universe around it, things tend to break down, become chaotic and unstable. We ARE living in a very dysfunctional reality, that is a fact. The elected officials that are, by definition, supposed to represent the people, instead merely represent themselves and their own interests. The financial markets that are, by definition, supposed to function as a means to keep the economy stable, instead cause instability. The legal systems in place that are, by definition, to bring a method of justice to protect the populous instead serves to threaten the people and fails to maintain any justice. The monetary systems that are in place merely as a mean to ease the function of trade and production instead prevent ease in commerce and ultimately hinder production of wealth. Religious systems that teach love, tolerance, forgiveness and the moral ethics of treating others as you wish to be treated instead serve as a means to divide mankind, bring judgement and damnations to others. It serves as a means to justify hate and commit crimes against others. Our education systems were put in place to spread knowledge, encourage creative thought and foster growth but instead demand conformity and obedience crushing creativity and curiosity. This is not a path towards knowledge but ignorance. And I could go on and on but I think I have proven my point. There is something very much in disharmony with what we believe and the reality we live in. In fact, it is so out of sync that the thoughts, actions and beliefs are very often in complete contradiction, yet we hold them all out to be equally valid in their truths. This is irrational and insane mind and it is the reason we live in an irrational and insane world. Until we address this, confront it and weed out the fallacies in our beliefs, we can never put any real hope in being able to bring about the harmony and reason we seek. I assure you, the voting booth holds no such magical powers. Last Edited by Sammie on 05/01/2012 02:42 PM "Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow". ~Aesop "Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that. We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski "Grasping at things can only yield one of two results: Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear. It is only a matter of which occurs first." -Goenka |
Sammie (OP) User ID: 2220559 United States 05/01/2012 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last people to know freedom in its true meaning on this continent were before any declaration or treaty. Quoting: EDGEM12012 13176944 Very true indeed "Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow". ~Aesop "Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that. We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski "Grasping at things can only yield one of two results: Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear. It is only a matter of which occurs first." -Goenka |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10705336 United States 05/01/2012 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A timely post from earlier. Watch this vid, now! Thread: Heart Stirring Call to Wake the F- Up. Not a stupid video. |
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WuDStefoto User ID: 15186261 Belgium 05/01/2012 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | above the FIVE senses they are EASY to manipulate ;DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop) -> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <- is the only way youths listen to the Prophets !!! PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT??? [link to www.youtube.com] rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D peace2daUNIVERSE |
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Sammie (OP) User ID: 2220559 United States 05/01/2012 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Heart Stirring Call to Wake the F- Up. Not a stupid video. Nice video. It truly is about communication, people and community. Alone our voice and our actions have impact, but it is a small impact. It does change the world but in isolation or in sparse numbers, the evolution is quite slow. We do not have the time to slowly evolve. Humanity needs a miracle of sorts. We need a fast track. Time is not our friend at the pace things are moving. Together in unity with others, our friends, family, associates and community our impact is multiplied exponentially. United we are capable of creating great miracles, changing entirely the landscape in front of us in a mere instant. That is why they, being very few numbers, spend so much of their time and resources in an effort to keep us divided. They are very well aware of the great powers and potential we have as a united front. We are a great threat. They need us to believe we need them and their systems of governance (control). Herein lies many motives for social propaganda creating welfare state mentalities, class division, sex division, racial divisions, religious divisions, political divisions.......divide ...divide...DIVIDE . Manifest the illusion and create the reality of dependent fearful minds fighting amongst their own brothers and sisters, in order to distract the "herd" while they greedily feast off our energies. They greatly fear the spell being broken, hence the concerted effort to keep the illusion alive. They do not stand a chance against a united community of people, working together with no fear or need of the only thing they have to offer, control. Together we have the strength to starve the corruption in a very short time with very little effort. It is as easy as not providing it with the nutrients it requires for survial, namely our labor (energy) and unquestionable belief in dependency. Break the spell. Cast out the demons. This is our world, not theirs. It's time to take it back, before they take us all ......... Population reduction does serve more than one purpose when you can look at it this way, doesn't it? "It doesnt have to be like this All we need to do is make sure we keep talking" "Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow". ~Aesop "Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that. We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski "Grasping at things can only yield one of two results: Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear. It is only a matter of which occurs first." -Goenka |