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JESUS TALKING ABOUT "MOHAMMAD' --SO WORSHIP GOD OF JESUS WHO CREATED JESUS AND GAVE POWERS TO HIM

 
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The Awesome Qur'an Verse that Christians NEVER dare to talk about





The purpose of this post is to simply quote a great verse from the Noble Quran, a verse that you will NEVER hear Christian missionaries bringing up, here is the great verse:
QURAN 61:6 And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"

Basically this verse records Jesus telling his people about the prophet Muhammad, that the prophet Muhammad would come after him. You will never see any Christian missionary quote this verse, why? Because they are cowards, and liars, and are possessed by the devil which they believe to be the holy spirit. (Source)

BIBLE 14:16 Jesus Promises Another Helper(MOHAMMAD)
15 “If you love Me, keep[d] My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
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The Gospel Preview: The Paraclete
The Gospel of Jesus brought into sharper focus the identity of the one who would fulfill the promise to make the line of Ishmael a great nation. In the Gospel of John- a New Testament book which is not the Gospel of Jesus and which may be considered as representing only in general terms portions of Jesus' teaching- Jesus informs his close companions that his work among them was drawing to conclusion, but God would send someone else after a time to carry forward the prophetic movement. This someone, however, would be the last of the prophets.



"And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever, even the spirit of truth" [15].



"When he, the spirit of truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth; for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear (from God), that shall he speak, and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me" [16].

In Jesus' written portrait of the last messenger he is called the "Comforter", which represents the word parakletos in the Greek New Testament. More precisely, parakletos means an advocate, one who pleads the cause of another, one who counsels or advises another from deep concern for the other's welfare [17]. Parakletos would designate one who would be considered the "Mercy for all creatures", Rahmatun lil 'Alamiun (Qur'an 21:107). He would be the counsellor who would "lead forth those who believe and do righteous deeds from the depths of darkness into light" (Qur'an 65:11), the true advocate who would be harisun 'alaykuym (Sura Al-Tawba); genuinely solicitous for the welfare of humanity, pleading their case with God and showing them the sure way of return to the favor of the divine Judge.





THE GREEK WORD "PARACLETE" (Ho Parakletos):



However, some scholars believe that what Jesus said in his own language of Aramaic represents more closely the Greek word periklytos, which means the Admirable or Glorified One. Periklytos corresponds to the word Muhammad in Arabic [18]. There are several proven cases of similar word substitutions in the New
Testament (Also, refer to added comments at Reference [18] at the bottom of this page).

There are also several instances of another possibility, the possibility that the Greek text originally had both words, parakletos and periklytos, and due to the similarity of spelling and close proximity to one another in the sentence, one got left out by the copyists. In such case the Greek text would have read: instead of the present reading: that is, "and He will give you another Counsellor, the Admirable One", instead of the present reading, "and He will give you another Counsellor". Such mistakes occured in copying because the ancient texts had all the letters written close together. The eye of the copyist could easily pass over a word similar in spelling or close in position [19].

When Jesus declares of his coming prophet-counsellor that he would "abide with you forever", he shows thatthere would be no need for additional prophets to succeed him. He would be the last one. He would lead mankind "unto all the truth" (Greek: "to the whole truth", "to every aspect of the truth"); there would be no necessity for anyone to come with additional truth. Indeed, there would be no more additional truth, in the general sense, to bring. So truthful and trustworthy would he be that he could be called Al-Amin, or as the Greek text of John 16:13 says, ,"the spirit of truth", one of whom it could be said: "He has brought them the Truth" (Qur'an 23:70).

The term "spirit" here does not mean that the coming prophet would be other than human. In New Testament Greek, this word has also been applied to an inspired person, "the possessor of a spiritual communication" or revelation. The one who become overwhelmed with a divine revelation is himself termed a "spirit" [20]. The "spirit of truth" would be the person who would possess a spiritual communication, that is, a divine revelation, and whose life and conduct and character would be marked to an extreme degree by devotion to the truth. This is why the next sentence of the verse containing the expression says: "He will guide you unto all truth; for he shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear (from God), that shall he speak" (John 16:13). This person would receive the revelation of truth from God and these words alone would constitute the message, not his own opinions or the writings of his companions. His message or revelation would be first and foremost and literally the Word of God. Note that this corresponds exactly to what God revealed to Moses about the prophet who would come from among the "brothers" of the Hebrews: "I ... will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him" (Deuteronomy 18:18).

A more striking point is the similarity between the divine mission given to Moses, Jesus and the Spirit of Truth (Muhammad) as bearers of a single thread of Revelation from God. By comparing Deuteronomy 18:15, 17-19; John 12:49; 16:12-13; and Qur'an 73:15, one observes that despite the thousands of years involved and the disastrous human interference in the Bible, the words describing these three personalities are almost identical. Therefore, the (original) Torah, Gospel and the Qur'an have One Source and reveal the same Truth, which is Eternal.

It cannot be overlooked that Jesus gives a unique requirement that would help to identify the last prophet: "He shall glorify me". (John 16:14). If anyone had come claiming to be this prophet, but did not give due honor to Jesus as prophet and Messiah, he would the wrong one. As a nation, the jewish people rejected Jesus. At the same time, this prophet to come would not be a follower of Jesus, that is, a Christian, because Jesus said that this prophet would reveal things of which Jesus himself was unaware. If Jesus had brought "all the truth", there would have been no need for him to single out someone else who would come with all the truth. Likewise, since this prophet would bring all the truth he would have to be the last one, the seal of the prophets. Therefore, we would have to look for someone who, like Abraham in whose line he would come, would be neither jewish nor Christian but would believe in God. Unlike the jewish people as a whole, he would "glorify" Jesus by insisting that Jesus was a true messenger of God and by acknowledging that Jesus was the true Messiah. But the teaching of this prophet would come fromGod Himself. As a revelation from God, the message of this last prophet would confirm what God had revealed previously by means of the original Torah and the original Gospel, but his message would be no mere plagiarized copy, no "condensed edition" of either the Torah or the Gospel. God Almighty had said, "I ... will put My words in his mouth", and it is proper that these words would agree with previously revealed words of the One and Same God. "Whatsoever he shall hear (from God), that shall he speak".

The one reference at John 14:26 which seeks to identify the coming prophet as "the Holy Ghost" or Spirit is the only one like it in the entire Bible. It is obviously the addition of some editor of the Gospel of John who sought in his own way to explain who he thought the "spirit of truth" was. But this indefensible exegesis simply contradicts what Jesus is reported to have said elsewhere in John. According to other verses he indicated clearly that the prophet or "Paraclete" would not come until Jesus' own mission was finished. The holy spirit- the angel of revelation-was active already, both before and during the ministry of Jesus, delivering God's revelations to His prophets and assisting them. (see Psalms 51:11; Matthew 3:16; 4:1, etc.). This strange "Holy Ghost" interpretation gained currency only after Christians began to look upon God as a "Trinity", with the "Holy Ghost" being an aspect of it. Neither the word Trinity nor its concepts can be found anywhere in the Bible. The Paraclete would be a man, not a ghost, because the same word is applied to Jesus himself at 1 John 2:1



"We have a Paraclete (Advocate, Counsellor) with the Father, Jesus Christ, the righteous one". Jesus had been a "paraclete" to the jewish people and his followers so considered him, but the Paraclete to come after Jesus (John 14:16) would be for all people, all places and all times.

The Greek text at John 14:16 which foretells the coming of "another Paraclete" is so specific that even the word "another" has significance. In English, "another" may mean "one more of the same kind" or "one more of a different kind". It is important to know which meaning Jesus had in mind, because if he meant "one more of a different kind" that would mean the Paraclete would perhaps be a spirit and the current Christian interpretation has some merit. But if he meant "one more of the same kind", then this is positive proof that the Paraclete would be just like Jesus was: a man, a human being, a prophet, not a spirit. Which did Jesus mean? The Greek text of the New Testament gives the verdict clearly because it uses the word allon, which is the masculine accusative form of allos: "ANOTHER OF THE SAME KIND". The Greek word for "another of a different kind" is heteros, but the New Testament does not use this word at John 14:16. Clearly, then, the Paraclete would be "ANOTHER OF THE SAME KIND" as Jesus, or as Moses said, "Like unto me": a MAN, not a spirit.



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REFERENCES
[15] John 14:16,17
[16] John 16:13, 14. It may be argued that Jesus was speaking for the benefit of his contemporaries, who died at least 500 years before Muhammad (pbuh). But many are the examples in the New Testament wherein Jesus, though speaking with his immediate followers, actually addresses his remrks to different generations in a future time. For example, see Matthew 16:27, 28. Jesus talks about Judgement Day but says, "Verily I say unto you. There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the son of Man coming in his kingdom", and at Matthew 24:3, 34, while speaking about the Last Day, he declares, "Verily I say unto you. This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled". Obviously, those disciples with Jesus then did not live to see either Judgement day or the Second Coming of Jesus, neither of which has even yet occured. Jesus' words, though given to his contemporaries, had reference primarily to a time far distant in the future. When Jesus says "I say unto YOU", he means his followers in the general sense, i.e., "you my people". Jesus is identifying in John 14 and 16 the Last Prophet for the benefit of his followers who would be living when he appeared.

[17] Joseph H. Mayfield. Beacon Bible Commentary (Kansas City, 1965), Vol. VII, p. 168

[18] Hastings, op. cit. p.14. Added Comment: Note the striking similarity between the two words parakletos and periklytos in Greek:



The consonants are exactly the same, the difference is only in the vowels, increasing the possibility of substituting one word for the other or omission of the one through careless copying.

[19] For example, compare the many restorations of words and phrases made on the basis of ancient manuscripts, which were omitted from the standard New Testament text, as found in The Emphatic Diaglott of B. Wilson.

[20] Reverend Thomas S. Green, A Greek-English Lexicon to the New Testament, 26th Ed. (London, n. d.), p.149. As examples, see usual Christian interpretation of 1 Corinthians 2:10; 2 Thessalonians 2:2 or I John 4:1-3.


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Who gives a fuck about this made up mumbo jumbo bullshit?
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Absolute BS. The spirit of Truth wouldn't have anything to do with lying islam or it's lying pedophile 'profit'.
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Absolute BS. The spirit of Truth wouldn't have anything to do with lying islam or it's lying pedophile 'profit'.
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MARY WAS PREGANT WHEN SHE WAS 11--- WAS GOD PEDOPHILE?
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prove it.
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lying muslims, do they every stop lying, then they want to claim some kinda link with the Spirit of Truth, ha.
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Noble Quran my arse

Qur’an 3:175 Remember that Fear is the devil's Tool.
"It is the devil's system to instill fear into his subjects. Do not fear them and fear Me instead, if you are believers."


Qur’an 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite tham above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."
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lying muslims, do they every stop lying, then they want to claim some kinda link with the Spirit of Truth, ha.
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i will pray that god of jesus gives you some understanding
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In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I am [ego eimi] you will perish in your sins”
[link to christiandefense.org]
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Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was foretold in the Old Scriptures (that exist in the Bible and elsewhere):

The sections here are:

1- In the New Testament.
2- In the Book of Isaiah.
3- In other Books in the Bible, and other Biblical Prophets proving Islam.
4- The "lost people of Israel" are the people of Afghanistan and Kashmir today. See proofs from the Bible and History. Cities were mentioned and documented.
5- Muhammad is mentioned by the exact name in the Gospel of Barnabas.
6- Prophet Muhammad mentioned throughout the Old Testament.
7- Rebuttals.







1- In the New Testament:

Being like the teacher. An 11-page PDF file that contains ample proofs from Aramaic showing that the word 'Muslim' was mentioned by Jesus himself.

In the Gospel of John: Muhammad is mentioned by the name and was foretold in the Gospel of John. This is a must read article! It proves that Jesus peace be upon him predicted for the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to come after him.

The Aramaic Bible predicts the coming of Muhammad by the exact word.

Further proofs from the Aramaic Bible Society. A very good proof from the Aramaic Bible Society web site regarding Muhammad's name mentioned in the Greek Bible. This is a must visit link!!.

Jesus told the jewish people that GOD Almighty will take His Kingdom from them and give it to the Muslims.

My detailed rebuttal to a Christian rebuttal about Muhammad was foretold by Jesus. I addressed all of their rebuttal points and refuted them. The article also talks about the 24,000 books that the current Bible's 66 books came from, and how that makes the current 66 chosen books extremely unreliable and doubtful.





2- In the Book of Isaiah:

Isaiah 42-54 predicts Islam, and the removal of GOD Almighty's Covenant from the people of Israel.

In the Book of Isaiah: Isaiah in the Bible foretold the story of "Al-alak" that is in the Noble Quran about Muhammad. Isaiah in the Bible foretold the story of "Al-alak" in the Noble Quran which happened to Muhammad and never happened to any other Prophet. It is the story where the Angel Gabriel repeatedly commands the Prophet to read, and the Prophet (i.e. Muhammad) repeatedly replies "I can't read".
Isaiah's Vision: He saw Jesus riding a donkey and Muhammad riding a camel. He also saw the destruction of Babylon (i.e. Iraq today) and its idol gods, and replacing them with a Divine Religion (i.e. Islam today).

Prophet Muhammad was foretold in Isaiah 42.

Muhammad in the Bible, (Isaiah 60), Pilgrimage to Mecca..!

Islamic Fasting was predicted by Isaiah in the Bible.

Isaiah 7:14 describes Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Prophet Muhammad was given "GOD is with us" (Emmanuel)





3- In other Books in the Bible, and other Biblical Prophets proving Islam:

Deuteronomy 18:18's Prophet is non other than Prophet Muhammad.

The "great nation" of Ishmael and its definition in the Bible.

The fall of pagan Babylon to pagan Persia in the Bible, and then the fall of pagan Persia (Iran + Iraq) to Islam.

The story of King Heraclius of the Byzantine and the foretold Prophet (Muhammad) in the Bible. See how he was convinced that Prophet Muhammad of Arabia was indeed the foretold Prophet that Jesus predicted to come.

The emigration of the Muslims to Madina was foretold in the Bible.

The story of the 10,000 Muslims who liberated Mecca (Paran) in the Bible.


Pilgrimage of Ezekiel to Mecca.

See the Proof that "Paran" in the Bible is "Mecca". Paran in the Bible is Mecca today - See the Archeological discoveries that prove Mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia.

Muhammad in the Bible; Standing upon Mount Arafat.

A great site that also shows Muhammad being foretold in the Bible.

Muhammad in the Old and New Testaments.

Muhammad in the Bible, by Sheikh (Minister) Ahmed Deedat.

Jesus' Sacred place among Muslims. By the Christian Scholar Michael Wolfe.

Prophecies from Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.

Also please visit Muhammad's (peace be upon him) life, prophecies and responses to all of the false charges against him.





4- The "lost people of Israel" are the people of Afghanistan and Kashmir today:

The "lost tribes of Israel" are the Muslims of Afghanistan and Kashmir -- Proved from the Bible and History -- Afghan and Kashmiri cities mentioned and documented.





5- Muhammad is mentioned by the exact name in the Gospel of Barnabas:

Saint Barnabas is mentioned in the New Testament and he is very well admired too: "For God who was at work in the ministry of Peter as an apostle to the jewish people, was also at work in my ministry as an apostle to the Gentiles. James, Peter, and John, those reputed to be pillars, gave me [Paul] and Barnabas the right hand to fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we [Paul and Barnabas] should go to the Gentiles, and they to the jewish people. (The New Testament from the N.I.V Bible, Galatians 2:8-9)"

Saint Barnabas's story in the New Testament begins in Acts 4:36. People often don't know the name of this great Saint. The reason for that is because he lived and dedicated his life to serve others. His real name was Joseph, but the Christians gave him a nickname of "Barnabas" because it meant the "son of encouragement". Barnabas came alongside people in times of challenge and helped them; see Acts 9:10-28 and Acts 15:36-39 for more details.

So in other words, we really should take his Gospel very seriously and consider it too the inspired word of GOD. Since Christians believe in Paul, John, Mark and Matthew as Prophets of GOD, then they should also consider Barnabas as a Prophet too.
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Jesus said to the jewish people: "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (From the KJV Bible, Matthew 21:43)"

(According to the Apocalypse of Peter, this nation would come from the Arabs)


What other nation beside the modern Muslims of today bow down to GOD Almighty in the most proper way? What other nation beside the modern Muslims Glorify GOD Almighty in their 5-daily Prayers, and fast the Month of Ramadan for Him?

Let's look at what GOD Almighty said about Ishmael, the father of the Muslims: "And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. (From the KJV Bible, Genesis 17:19-21)"

The jewish people were GOD Almighty's chosen people: "We did aforetime grant to the Children of Israel the Book the Power of Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (The Noble Quran, 45:16)"

But after they utterly failed with GOD Almighty and His Messengers (Not Moses ever liked their actions, nor Jesus ever liked them and their killings of the Prophets):

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (From the KJV Bible, Matthew 23:37)"

"You have heard these things; look at them all. Will you not admit them? "From now on I will tell you of new things, of hidden things unknown to you. They are created now, and not long ago; you have not heard of them before today. So you cannot say, 'Yes, I knew of them.' You have neither heard nor understood; from of old your ear has not been open. Well do I know how treacherous you are; you were called a rebel from birth. For my own name's sake I delay my wrath; for the sake of my praise I hold it back from you, so as not to cut you off. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 48:6-9)"

"So I will disgrace the dignitaries of your temple, and I will consign Jacob to destruction and Israel to scorn. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 43:28)"

"But now, all you who light fires and provide yourselves with flaming torches, go, walk in the light of your fires and of the torches you have set ablaze. This is what you shall receive from my hand: You will lie down in torment. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 50:11)"

They became cursed, and GOD Almighty removed His Kingdom from them and gave it to another nation. That nation is non other than the "blessed" Muslims who came from the "blessed" Ishmael.

The liars of the NIV Bible had inserted a forgery into their English translation. In Genesis 16:11-12, they inserted a cheap name-calling "wild ass" for Ishmael, while the original scripts in the King James Version Bible called him "wild man":

"And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. (From the KJV Bible, Genesis 16:11-12)"

Ishmael was a wild man, and a "blessed" one by GOD Almighty (Gen. 17:19-21). He fought the pagan Arabs who practiced brutal slavery and degradation of women. It was part of the pagan Arabs' custom to bury daughters alive at the age of 4, because a birth of a female brought shame to the family. Many pagan Arabs used to practice it.

Ironically, the New Jerusalem Bible also agrees with this ridiculous pagan practice: "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss. (From the New Jerusalem Bible, Ecclesiasticus 22:3)"

The "blessed" Ishmael peace be upon him was Allah Almighty's Apostle: "And Isma'il and Elisha, and Jonas, and Lot: and to all We gave favour above the nations: (The Noble Quran, 6:86)"

"Also mention in the Book (the story of) Isma'il: He was (strictly) true to what he promised, and he was an apostle (and) a prophet. (The Noble Quran, 19:54)"

Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him has a direct blood relationship with Prophet Ishmael peace be upon him. Before Prophet Muhammad became a Prophet at the age of 40, he was a well-respected and honored person among his people. The pagans used him to judge between their affairs. They also used to trust him with their wealth. He was called "Al-Sadiq, Al-Ameen", which means "The Honest, the Trust Worthy".

When Prophet Muhammad became the Messenger of Allah Almighty, he brought the Divine Religion of Islam that ended the Judeo-Christian and pagan brutal slavery, lifted the status of women and gave them their rights, and brought Justice, Light and Mercy to the Arabs and to the Muslims world-wide.





GOD in the Bible will take His Kingdom from the jewish people and give it to another Nation:

The following is an email that sent to me by brother Silent Wisdom; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him. I did, however, add points to the article/email.

From: silentwisdom_2002@yahoo.com (Silent Wisdom)
To: Osama Abdallah
Subj: Muhammad in the Bible!
Date: 6/28/02 2:08:27 PM Central Daylight Time

As'Salamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wa'Barakatu brother,

Here is some Further proofs about Prophecies of the Bible about Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)..

Habakkuk
3:3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.
3:4 And his brightness was as the light; he had horns coming out of his hand: and there was the hiding of his power.
3:5 Before him went the pestilence, and burning coals went forth at his feet.

In fact This is a Clear Prophecy about Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), as he was the Only Prophet coming from "Mount of Paran" in Mecca..This is a Clear Verse.

Psalms
118:22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.
118:23 This is the LORD's doing; it is marvelous in our eyes.
118:24 This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.

Matthew
21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
21:44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

What other nation beside the modern Muslims of today bow down to GOD Almighty in the most proper way? What other nation beside the modern Muslims Glorify GOD Almighty in their 5-daily Prayers, and fast the Month of Ramadan for Him?

Let's look at what GOD Almighty said about Ishmael, the father of the Muslims: "And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. (From the KJV Bible, Genesis 17:19-21)"

The jewish people were GOD Almighty's chosen people: "We did aforetime grant to the Children of Israel the Book the Power of Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (The Noble Quran, 45:16)"

But after they utterly failed with GOD Almighty and His Messengers (Not Moses ever liked their actions, nor Jesus ever liked them and their killings of the Prophets):

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (From the KJV Bible, Matthew 23:37)"

"You have heard these things; look at them all. Will you not admit them? "From now on I will tell you of new things, of hidden things unknown to you. They are created now, and not long ago; you have not heard of them before today. So you cannot say, 'Yes, I knew of them.' You have neither heard nor understood; from of old your ear has not been open. Well do I know how treacherous you are; you were called a rebel from birth. For my own name's sake I delay my wrath; for the sake of my praise I hold it back from you, so as not to cut you off. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 48:6-9)"

"So I will disgrace the dignitaries of your temple, and I will consign Jacob to destruction and Israel to scorn. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 43:28)"

"But now, all you who light fires and provide yourselves with flaming torches, go, walk in the light of your fires and of the torches you have set ablaze. This is what you shall receive from my hand: You will lie down in torment. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 50:11)"

They became cursed, and GOD Almighty removed His Kingdom from them and gave it to another nation. That nation is non other than the "blessed" Muslims who came from the "blessed" Ishmael.

The liars of the NIV Bible had inserted a forgery into their English translation. In Genesis 16:11-12, they inserted a cheap name-calling "wild ass" for Ishmael, while the original scripts in the King James Version Bible called him "wild man":

"And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. (From the KJV Bible, Genesis 16:11-12)"

Ishmael was a wild man, and a "blessed" one by GOD Almighty (Gen. 17:19-21). He fought the pagan Arabs who practiced brutal slavery and degradation of women. It was part of the pagan Arabs' custom to bury daughters alive at the age of 4, because a birth of a female brought shame to the family. Many pagan Arabs used to practice it.

Ironically, the New Jerusalem Bible also agrees with this ridiculous pagan practice: "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss. (From the New Jerusalem Bible, Ecclesiasticus 22:3)"

The "blessed" Ishmael peace be upon him was Allah Almighty's Apostle: "And Isma'il and Elisha, and Jonas, and Lot: and to all We gave favour above the nations: (The Noble Quran, 6:86)"

"Also mention in the Book (the story of) Isma'il: He was (strictly) true to what he promised, and he was an apostle (and) a prophet. (The Noble Quran, 19:54)"

Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him has a direct blood relationship with Prophet Ishmael peace be upon him. Before Prophet Muhammad became a Prophet at the age of 40, he was a well-respected and honored person among his people. The pagans used him to judge between their affairs. They also used to trust him with their wealth. He was called "Al-Sadiq Al-Ameen", which means "The Honest the Trust Worthy".

When Prophet Muhammad became the Messenger of Allah Almighty, he brought the Divine Religion of Islam that ended the Judeo-Christian and pagan brutal slavery, lifted the status of women and gave them their rights, and brought Justice, Light and Mercy to the Arabs and to the Muslims world-wide.

In Psalms 118:22 and Matthew 21:44, Both are Talking about a Stone, in Fact a Corner Stone that completes the Building of Prophets and God's Kingdom.

In Matthew 21:43, It's a Clear Warning from Jesus (peace be upon him) to jewish people that the kingdom of God shall be taken away from them and will be given to another nation can serve it, This nation must be the Great nation of Ishmael mentioned in Bible..and definitely the nation of Islam ,followers of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

The word Stone (Corner Stone) in both verses was used by prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) himself referring to his similitude with other prophets:

Sahih Al Bukhari:
Volume 4, Book 56, Number 735:

Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "My similitude in comparison with the other prophets before me, is that of a man who has built a house nicely and beautifully, except for a place of one brick in a corner. The people go about it and wonder at its beauty, but say: 'Would that this brick be put in its place!' So I am that brick, and I am the last of the Prophets."
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The "great nation" of Ishmael and its definition in the Bible:

The sections of this article are:

1- The "great nation" of Ishmael and its definition in the Bible.
2- The Arabs, whom Islam came from, are the descendents of Ishmael, and they are the "great nation" along with all Muslims.
3- GOD's Covenant was taken from the jewish people and given to the Muslims in the Bible.


The Biblical verses of Genesis 17:20 and Deuteronomy 4:7-8 were sent to me by brother albustami@usa.net; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

Let us look at the verses from the NIV Bible:

"And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 17:20)"
"What other nation is so great as to have their gods near them the way the LORD our God is near us whenever we pray to him? And what other nation is so great as to have such righteous decrees and laws as this body of laws I am setting before you today? (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 4:7-8)"

In the above verses, we first see a clear promise from GOD Almighty that He will make a "great nation" from Ishmael's descendents. We then see the definition of "great nation" as being a nation that directly receives a Law from GOD Almighty.

This is all great and agreeing with Islam. Let us look at what Allah Almighty said about the Jewish Law in the Noble Quran:

"It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the jewish people, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to God's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of God's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what God hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers. (The Noble Quran, 5:44)"


The Law of the Muslims is the Noble Quran:

"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than God; that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, God is indeed Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (The Noble Quran, 5:3)"



The Arabs, whom Islam came from, are the descendents of Ishmael, and they are the "great nation" along with all Muslims:

No knowledgeable Muslim would deny Judaism. Judaism was the "light" of the jewish people according to the Noble Quran as I showed above. The verses of Deuteronomy 4:7-8, while they are talking about the jewish people, clearly say that if the people have the "law of the LORD", then they are a "great nation".

Since GOD Almighty promised that He was going to make the Arabs a "great nation", since they are from Ishmael, then this means that the Noble Quran is indeed GOD Almighty's Law to the Arabs, and to ALL Muslims as well that embraced Islam. The people of Ishmael are clearly the Arabs (through biological descent), and all Muslims through theological descent. No knowledgeable non-Muslim would dispute that.

Therefore, since "great nation" proves that the people have the Law of GOD Almighty, and since the Arabs were promised to become a "great nation" in the Old Testament, then this clearly and irrefutably makes the Noble Quran as the Law of the LORD in the Old Testament since it came from the Arabs, the "great nation".
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lying muslims, do they every stop lying, then they want to claim some kinda link with the Spirit of Truth, ha.
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You are more pathetic than them if you believe this whole jesus mumbo jumbo to be the truth, ha.
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No. Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life, those who believe in him will not die but have everlasting life, everyone else, muslims, atheists will go down into the pit.

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