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New Illuminati Version Bible Says Lucifer Is Jesus

 
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New Illuminati Version Bible Says Lucifer Is Jesus
The New International Version 1984 - The NIV -

Removes The Name Lucifer From Isaiah 14:12.

Then It Changes The Name Son Of The Morning To Morning Star.


The King James Version Reads:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer,
son of the morning!
how art thou cut down to the ground

Isaiah 14:12

The New Illuminati Version Reads:

How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,

Isaiah 14:12





WHY DOES THIS MATTER:

Beacause Of Revelation 22:16

The KJV:

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify
unto you these things in the churches.
I am the root and the offspring of David,
and the bright and morning star.


The NIV:

I, Jesus, have sent my angel to
give you this testimony for the churches.
I am the Root and the Offspring of David,
and the bright Morning Star.




So The KJV Calls Lucifer the Son Of The Morning
and Jesus The Bright Morning Star

And The NIV Calls The Devil, Well, God Essentially.


Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil;
that put darkness for light, and light for darkness

Isaiah 5:20 NIV Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,
who put darkness for light and light for darkness


idol1


If Isaiah 5 Matches In The KJV And NIV
And Rev 22:16 Matches In The KJV And NIV

Why DOESN"T Isaiah 14:12 ?????


caveat accendo lucem ferre

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There are more than just one morning star in the Bible mentioned.

… the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? Job 38
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A spade is a spade. Christianity's Jesus IS the fallen angel. Accept it. Deal with it. You can no longer say that you didn't know you worship the Devil.
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[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]

great read exposing the perversion in the niv
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A spade is a spade. Christianity's Jesus IS the fallen angel. Accept it. Deal with it. You can no longer say that you didn't know you worship the Devil.
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Jesus Christ is the Great God and Savior, he is the creator the devil is created.
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There are more than just one morning star in the Bible mentioned.

… the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? Job 38
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Morning Stars are ANGELS. The Most High is NOT an Angel, but he did create angels. So HOW can your jesus be an angel AND the Most High? Come'on, get it together; you can't nurse a lie forever.
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Dogmor. Excellent ! Research the NIV and the Capstone as well.



Psalm 118:22

New International Version 1984 (NIV1984)

The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone;


King James Version (KJV)

The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.
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There are more than just one morning star in the Bible mentioned.

… the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? Job 38
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13479329


Morning Stars are ANGELS. The Most High is NOT an Angel, but he did create angels. So HOW can your jesus be an angel AND the Most High? Come'on, get it together; you can't nurse a lie forever.
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I am not a Trinitarian.
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A spade is a spade. Christianity's Jesus IS the fallen angel. Accept it. Deal with it. You can no longer say that you didn't know you worship the Devil.
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Descended is not fallen.
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There are more than just one morning star in the Bible mentioned.

… the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? Job 38
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13479329


Morning Stars are ANGELS. The Most High is NOT an Angel, but he did create angels. So HOW can your jesus be an angel AND the Most High? Come'on, get it together; you can't nurse a lie forever.
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I am not a Trinitarian.
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But you ARE, apparently, illiterate.

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I heard God's Word is unchangable, because, they argue "Do you think He isn't able to keep it pure?!"

So I guess if this book says "Bible" on it, it must be legit

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A spade is a spade. Christianity's Jesus IS the fallen angel. Accept it. Deal with it. You can no longer say that you didn't know you worship the Devil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10164827


Jesus Christ is the Great God and Savior, he is the creator the devil is created.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4619492


TPTB Worship The Devil

That Doesn't Mean TRUE Christians Do


BUMP Jesus Christ is the Great God and Savior,
he is the creator
the devil is created.



So A 1700 Year Old LATIN VULGATE BIBLE
and A 400 Year Old FIRST ENGLISH Bible
say Jesus CHRIST Is Lord and The Devil Is Created

But A 25 year Old SLICK WIILIAM Translation
For The Illuminati Says Jesus Is The Devil
And AC 10164827 Falls For It LOL...
Then He Condemns Christianity.
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A spade is a spade. Christianity's Jesus IS the fallen angel. Accept it. Deal with it. You can no longer say that you didn't know you worship the Devil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10164827


Descended is not fallen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13479329


In the original Greek, it's NOT descended, the meaning is FALLEN. As in: ass kicked out; thrown out; hurled down; flung out. He was REMOVED. Real simple.


I would cross-reference it for you but I don't feel like it; I'm tired. It has been a long hot day and I'm only using a few neurons at the moment. I've set my brain cells to "sleep" mode.
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I heard God's Word is unchangable, because, they argue "Do you think He isn't able to keep it pure?!"

So I guess if this book says "Bible" on it, it must be legit

hayseed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


I Always Felt In My Heart That Gods Word Is Unchangable

But These Contradictions In The NIV Are Obvious To Christians.

Maybe Thats Why The Latin Vulgate Matches The KJV.
So GODS WORD WAS UNCHANGED.


Thread: ††† KING JAMES BIBLE ONLY? (KJV/KJB/AV) †††


I believe the King James version of the Holy Bible is the only English bible we should rely on. I believe it is purified and preserved by the hand of God. I have studied the history of the bible and the creation of modern versions like the NIV, NASB, and NLT et al. and have discovered they are all corrupted.

There are three common signs of corruption:

1. changing Acts 12:4 to "passover" instead of the correct word "Easter" ( [link to www.chick.com]

2. getting rid of Satan's pre-fall angelic name "Lucifer" out of Isaiah 14:12 and even replacing with "morning star" or "day star" which is Jesus Christ as in Revelation 22:16 - 2 Peter 1:19 ( [link to www.chick.com]

3. an incorrect reference to Isaiah in Mark 1:2

 Quoting: Veresanctus


Idol1
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Dig deeper people! There is no "real" devil!
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A spade is a spade. Christianity's Jesus IS the fallen angel. Accept it. Deal with it. You can no longer say that you didn't know you worship the Devil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10164827


Descended is not fallen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13479329


In the original Greek, it's NOT descended, the meaning is FALLEN. As in: ass kicked out; thrown out; hurled down; flung out. He was REMOVED. Real simple.


I would cross-reference it for you but I don't feel like it; I'm tired. It has been a long hot day and I'm only using a few neurons at the moment. I've set my brain cells to "sleep" mode.
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Yes, but Jesus did descend. Not fallen. Not a fallen morning star.
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Re: New Illuminati Version Bible Says Lucifer Is Jesus
Dogmor. Excellent ! Research the NIV and the Capstone as well.



Psalm 118:22

New International Version 1984 (NIV1984)

The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone;


King James Version (KJV)

The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


Eph 9 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners,
but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets,
Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together
groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
In whom ye also are builded together
for an habitation of God through the Spirit.


:) We Are Just Obsessed With Capstones. Thats All !

A Capstone Being The Top.The Final Touch.
And A Cornerstone Being The FOUNDATION.
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A spade is a spade. Christianity's Jesus IS the fallen angel. Accept it. Deal with it. You can no longer say that you didn't know you worship the Devil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10164827


Descended is not fallen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13479329


In the original Greek, it's NOT descended, the meaning is FALLEN. As in: ass kicked out; thrown out; hurled down; flung out. He was REMOVED. Real simple.


I would cross-reference it for you but I don't feel like it; I'm tired. It has been a long hot day and I'm only using a few neurons at the moment. I've set my brain cells to "sleep" mode.
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Yes, but Jesus did descend. Not fallen. Not a fallen morning star.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13479329


Proverb.30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven,
or descended?
who hath gathered the wind in his fists?
who hath bound the waters in a garment?
who hath established all the ends of the earth?
what is his name,
and what is his son's name,
if thou canst tell?
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I heard God's Word is unchangable, because, they argue "Do you think He isn't able to keep it pure?!"

So I guess if this book says "Bible" on it, it must be legit

hayseed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


I Always Felt In My Heart That Gods Word Is Unchangable

But These Contradictions In The NIV Are Obvious To Christians.

Maybe Thats Why The Latin Vulgate Matches The KJV.
So GODS WORD WAS UNCHANGED.


Thread: ††† KING JAMES BIBLE ONLY? (KJV/KJB/AV) †††


I believe the King James version of the Holy Bible is the only English bible we should rely on. I believe it is purified and preserved by the hand of God. I have studied the history of the bible and the creation of modern versions like the NIV, NASB, and NLT et al. and have discovered they are all corrupted.

There are three common signs of corruption:

1. changing Acts 12:4 to "passover" instead of the correct word "Easter" ( [link to www.chick.com]

2. getting rid of Satan's pre-fall angelic name "Lucifer" out of Isaiah 14:12 and even replacing with "morning star" or "day star" which is Jesus Christ as in Revelation 22:16 - 2 Peter 1:19 ( [link to www.chick.com]

3. an incorrect reference to Isaiah in Mark 1:2

 Quoting: Veresanctus


Idol1
 Quoting: DoGMoR


English didn't even exist back when the scriptures were first issued. WTF?
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There are 2 morning stars you know.

First one is known as the "SUN". The other is known as "Venus". One of them is reflecting the light from the other.
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I heard God's Word is unchangable, because, they argue "Do you think He isn't able to keep it pure?!"

So I guess if this book says "Bible" on it, it must be legit

hayseed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


I Always Felt In My Heart That Gods Word Is Unchangable

But These Contradictions In The NIV Are Obvious To Christians.

Maybe Thats Why The Latin Vulgate Matches The KJV.
So GODS WORD WAS UNCHANGED.


Thread: ††† KING JAMES BIBLE ONLY? (KJV/KJB/AV) †††


I believe the King James version of the Holy Bible is the only English bible we should rely on. I believe it is purified and preserved by the hand of God. I have studied the history of the bible and the creation of modern versions like the NIV, NASB, and NLT et al. and have discovered they are all corrupted.

There are three common signs of corruption:

1. changing Acts 12:4 to "passover" instead of the correct word "Easter" ( [link to www.chick.com]

2. getting rid of Satan's pre-fall angelic name "Lucifer" out of Isaiah 14:12 and even replacing with "morning star" or "day star" which is Jesus Christ as in Revelation 22:16 - 2 Peter 1:19 ( [link to www.chick.com]

3. an incorrect reference to Isaiah in Mark 1:2

 Quoting: Veresanctus


Idol1
 Quoting: DoGMoR


English didn't even exist back when the scriptures were first issued. WTF?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578



WHAT?

English Has Existed For 500 YEARS. THE KJV IS 400 Years old

Before That The Scriptures Were In LATIN, HEBREW, AND GREEK

The KJV Was Translated From Mostly Greek

But There IS A LATIN BIBLE That Matches The KJV In Translation

Where The NIV Does Not Match The Latin Bible In Translation

Do U Understand

The Latin Vulgate Bible Corroborates The KJV As The True Word Of God
Being THEY MATCH.



WHICH MEANS THE WORD OF GOD IS UNCHANGED IN THE LATIN AND ENGLISH BIBLE


UNTIL THE NIV


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The New International Version 1984 - The NIV -

Removes The Name Lucifer From Isaiah 14:12.

Then It Changes The Name Son Of The Morning To Morning Star.


The King James Version Reads:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer,
son of the morning!
how art thou cut down to the ground

Isaiah 14:12

The New Illuminati Version Reads:

How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,

Isaiah 14:12





WHY DOES THIS MATTER:

Beacause Of Revelation 22:16

The KJV:

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify
unto you these things in the churches.
I am the root and the offspring of David,
and the bright and morning star.

16 I, Jesus, have sent my angel to
give you this testimony for the churches.
I am the Root and the Offspring of David,
and the bright Morning Star.




So The KJV Calls Lucifer the Son Of The Morning
and Jesus The Bright Morning Star

And The NIV Calls The Devil, Well, God Essentially.


Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil;
that put darkness for light, and light for darkness

Isaiah 5:20 NIV Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,
who put darkness for light and light for darkness


idol1


If Isaiah 5 Matches In The KJV And NIV
And Rev 22:16 Matches In The KJV And NIV

Why DOESN"T Isaiah 14:12 ?????


caveat accendo lucem ferre

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Stop being a ignorant christian. Get informed man.

It is a undebatable FACT that "Lucifer" is a textual addition by the King James Bible
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English didn't even exist back when the scriptures were first issued. WTF?
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WHAT?

English Has Existed For 500 YEARS. THE KJV IS 400 Years old

Before That The Scriptures Were In LATIN, HEBREW, AND GREEK
 Quoting: DoGMoR


The scriptures were originally issued in Hebrew & Greek. Translating them changes them. Yes, the translations make the texts available to us English-speakers, but they have to be taken with a grain of salt, because they're largely drenched in the subjective doctrinal bias of those doing the translating. And the inclusion of Latin in the mix jacked it all up even further.

Ultimately, God's word is a Person.
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yup good job OP.

KJV only.
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So... Jesus tempted himself. Makes sense.

Or wait... No, not at all.

The truth is even stranger than this dumbass scenario, sadly.
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KJV only.
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Hopefully you can explain then why Jonah chapter 2 says he was in hell, "for ever", and then just a couple days later was in Ninevah preaching.
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Ultimately, God's word is a Person.
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I Drink To That



And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth John 1

Then Jesus said unto them, "Verily, verily I say unto you,
unless ye eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood,
ye have no life in you. John 6
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Stop being a ignorant christian. Get informed man.

It is a undebatable FACT that "Lucifer" is a textual addition by the King James Bible
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BS



Lucern Ferre




In Isaiah 14:12

In the Hebrew Scrolls As Heylel

In The Latin Vulgate As Lucern

In The Greek Text as Phosphorus.


THE LIGHT BEARER
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The Bible is old some thing or one cold of changed it many times to serve there own agenda.
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KJV only.
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Hopefully you can explain then why Jonah chapter 2 says he was in hell, "for ever", and then just a couple days later was in Ninevah preaching.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Repentance
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So... Jesus tempted himself. Makes sense.

Or wait... No, not at all.

The truth is even stranger than this dumbass scenario, sadly.
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religions = nonnonsense

but hey it's the goal, the less you understand the more they can still do their nasty business.

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