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New Illuminati Version Bible Says Lucifer Is Jesus

 
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KJV only.
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Hopefully you can explain then why Jonah chapter 2 says he was in hell, "for ever", and then just a couple days later was in Ninevah preaching.
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Repentance
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I. . .really.
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Stop being a ignorant christian. Get informed man.

It is a undebatable FACT that "Lucifer" is a textual addition by the King James Bible
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BS



Lucern Ferre




In Isaiah 14:12

In the Hebrew Scrolls As Heylel

In The Latin Vulgate As Lucern

In The Greek Text as Phosphorus.


THE LIGHT BEARER
 Quoting: DoGMoR


/facepalm
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The Devils Grandest Trick Will Be

Convincing The World He Doesn't Exist
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KJV only.
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Hopefully you can explain then why Jonah chapter 2 says he was in hell, "for ever", and then just a couple days later was in Ninevah preaching.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Repentance
 Quoting: DoGMoR


I. . .really.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578



6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains;
the earth with her bars was about me for ever;
yet hast Thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

trans_sign

As IN NEVER ENDING. FOR EVER.


thats how it must have seemed


and at this point in the scripture Jonah had not repented.

Once He Repented He Was Spit Out And Headed to Nineveh To Preach.






Preach , As In Isaiah 61.
The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me,
because the LORD has anointed me to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim
freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners
,
to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor and the day of
vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn.








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Descended is not fallen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13479329


In the original Greek, it's NOT descended, the meaning is FALLEN. As in: ass kicked out; thrown out; hurled down; flung out. He was REMOVED. Real simple.


I would cross-reference it for you but I don't feel like it; I'm tired. It has been a long hot day and I'm only using a few neurons at the moment. I've set my brain cells to "sleep" mode.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10164827


Yes, but Jesus did descend. Not fallen. Not a fallen morning star.
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Proverb.30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven,
or descended?
who hath gathered the wind in his fists?
who hath bound the waters in a garment?
who hath established all the ends of the earth?
what is his name,
and what is his son's name,
if thou canst tell?
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Well The Name IS NOT The Devil.


Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols:
the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!
how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation,
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell,
to the sides of the pit.

^
Isaiah KJV



And

All your pomp has been brought down to the grave,
along with the noise of your harps;
maggots are spread out beneath you and worms cover you.
How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!
You said in your heart,
“I will ascend to the heavens;
I will raise my throne above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon.
I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.”
But you are brought down to the realm of the dead,
to the depths of the pit
.

Isaiah NIV


The Point Here In Isaiah Is The Same. Someone FELL FROM HEAVEN.



MY POINT IS REVELATION 22:16.


and yet again caveat accendo lucem ferre.




BTW accendo IS ILLUMINATION. Not ascent or descent.

BEWARE of the ILLUMINATION of the LIGHT BEARER


He Descended Here Long Ago and WILL Appear To Ascend...

But It Will Be An Optical Illusion.


Such As Thread: ...VENUS CONJUNCTION and the Super Moon !!!. Venus and the Anti Christ Star..

Like When The Galactic AntiCenter Star,
Which Appears Doubled Anyway, Illuminates The Morning Star
Venus


Elnath, The Butting. (Beta Tauri)
known As The Fifth Chariot, Is The Galactic Anticenter

Now El Nath Will Illuminate Venus This Month.

hiding


Lucis - Light

Thats Were we Get Lucifer

"LUCIFER, the Light-bearer!
Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness!
Lucifer, the Son of the Morning!"

There Is A Difference In The Son Of The Morning Isaiah 14

And The Bright Morning Star. Rev 22

Latin Phsphorus, morning star,
from Greek phsphoros, bringing light, morning star

Isn't Venus The Morning Star?

Yes.

And Elnath MAYBE The Son Of The Morning.

The AC Star

hiding



So Why Is It That The Name - Now Lucifer - Was Given To " The Morning Star"
When It Really Should Be Lucifer Son Of The Morning.
Why Has It All Been Obscured With An Associations To Venus???


My Guess Is This Latin Phrase

caveat accendo lucem ferre

And Its not A Mason Password :)

BEWARE ILLUMINATION LIGHT BEARER

Is ElNath The Merkaba Of The Spirit Of Darkness

cow



Jesus Said (The Bright Morning Star)

I Saw Satan (The Son Of The Morning)

Fall From Heaven Like Lightning


lflash

And Thanx AI for your Help w/ This Theory With ElNath On The Hiram Key
Symbolizing Ezeckials Wheel. Based On The Nostrodomus Blue Star In The Lost Book.

Thread: Turning The Hiram Key. The 5-D Link To Doom.

El Nath Is The Key.

Venus Is The Morning Star


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Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee

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YHWH is lucifer.
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YHWH is lucifer.
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Thats The Tetragrammaton.

The 4 Letters Supposedly Shortened From the 72 Names Of God.

Its Also Got Something To Do With The Key Of Solomon

But Now The "Scholars" Say Solomon Didn't Write The Key.
And The Plates And The "Lessor Key" Are Mid-evil (Mi Devil) Demonology.


goodevil

Luke 10

Jesus Said

16 “Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me;
but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me.”

17 The seventy-two returned with joy and said,
“Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.


18 He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

19 I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions
and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.

20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you,
but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”


But Remember [link to www.youtube.com] Matthew 24

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you,
Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth:
behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east,
and shineth even unto the west;
so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
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Shills Are Out IN Force




The Devils Grandest Trick Will Be

Convincing The World He Doesn't Exist
 Quoting: DoGMoR


no the devil trick is illusion, using a mirror you know like a magician.

look how many mirrors you can find everywhere, why?
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The Devils Grandest Trick Will Be

Convincing The World He Doesn't Exist
 Quoting: DoGMoR


no the devil trick is illusion, using a mirror you know like a magician.

look how many mirrors you can find everywhere, why?
 Quoting: Monbazillac


Hey Have You Ever Looked In A Mirror
Opposite Another Mirror
Like At A Barber Shop Or Whatever...

And Noticed The Smaller Mirror In The Lower Corner

And If You Look Inn That Mirrored Mirror

You See Another Even Smaller Mirror.

And On And On.......


Thats The Devils Lie.

Most People Dont Even See The Mirrors Reflection In Another Opposite Facing Mirror.

And The People WHO DO See The Reflection Notice It Eventually Becomes So Small That You Cant Tell Whats In The Mirror Anyway.

The Devils Lie.

Few See It

And He Has Made It Very Obscure For Those Few Who Do.


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Lucifer is of the light bearer a Arc Angel casted to earth to burn the mortal sins of man. To cleanse them or condemn them.

Jesus is of the light bearer was not a Arc Angel he was part of Father part of humanity born of Mother Mary child of Mother. To guide them/us back showing forgiveness & compassion.

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As IN NEVER ENDING. FOR EVER.


thats how it must have seemed
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And you don't suppose that sets a rather controversial precedent? I mean, if the infallible, God-inspired KJV bible book says Jonah was in Hell, for ever. . .surely he must still be down there, right?

;)
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To copyright a work a certain amount of words must be changed to call it an original. Look at your Bibles.

The KJB is not copyrighted. Except in London where it is safe guarded in its original.

Freely you receive, freely you must give.

To quote over a certain amount of words in the modern perversions, you must ask for permission.

I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
Psalm 138:2

God has a special promise of condemnation for those that run and say, "the Lord said", when He did not.
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The Devil
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Quit giving this guy any air-time
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So you know me :)

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The Devil
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Quit giving this guy any air-time
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LOL

Im Not Frankies Uncle Paul Begley.

But Point Taken :)


P Begleys Video Where The CRUCIFIX FLIES Was About "Bible Tampering"

But Then He Squeezed That Ball.

LOL P Begley has Never Shown That BALL Again:)



Thread: Must See! REAL Paranormal Activity:The DEVIL Throws a Crucifix at a Preacher.


Peace
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Yes, there are some errors and mistranslated words in the KJV. But it is the closest to the original test and have many cross references that are available for it.

However, Jesus is not Satan, his brother or equated with him.
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Also Zondervan Publishers is owned by Rupert Murdoch, he has exclusive rights to publish the NIV Bible
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Yes, there are some errors and mistranslated words in the KJV.
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Like the bit where Jesus mentioned the "end of the age" (aion) but King J's hired guns made it say "end of the world". That's a pretty huge difference, and there's plenty more where that one came from. Even slight errors can alter our understanding substantially, to where we're believing stuff God never had in mind.
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Yes, there are some errors and mistranslated words in the KJV.
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Like the bit where Jesus mentioned the "end of the age" (aion) but King J's hired guns made it say "end of the world". That's a pretty huge difference, and there's plenty more where that one came from. Even slight errors can alter our understanding substantially, to where we're believing stuff God never had in mind.
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Its THE END OF THE AGE (aion)

Not World :)


End Of The Age Of Pieces The Fish?

Or Is It The End Of The CHURCH AGE?


Or Is The End Of The Age The End Of The World?

Matthew 28

And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age


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As a 27 year Christian I have come to the conclusion that the Bible "Word" has been mistranslated from the very beginning. I don’t understand how even the KJV can be considered the pure word of God as it was translated by a bunch of Masons and with much Catholic influence.

All you have to do is study a little history, be honest with yourself, and it is obvious that ALL the translators throughout ALL history have had a religious agenda contrary to the truth.

Face it people, the enemy has hidden the true and pure version of God’s word from this last generation.

At this point all we can do is the best we can do to try and understand the Word in its present condition.

Love God and love thy neighbor as thy self and in everything you do if you filter your decisions through this love principal then you are closer, and in better standing with God than any professing Christian who doesn’t apply these principals.

Pray, expect to hear in your spirit, and obey what the inner spirit tells you.
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The New International Version 1984 - The NIV -

Removes The Name Lucifer From Isaiah 14:12.

Then It Changes The Name Son Of The Morning To Morning Star.


The King James Version Reads:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer,
son of the morning!
how art thou cut down to the ground

Isaiah 14:12

The New Illuminati Version Reads:

How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,

Isaiah 14:12





WHY DOES THIS MATTER:

Beacause Of Revelation 22:16

The KJV:

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify
unto you these things in the churches.
I am the root and the offspring of David,
and the bright and morning star.


The NIV:

I, Jesus, have sent my angel to
give you this testimony for the churches.
I am the Root and the Offspring of David,
and the bright Morning Star.




So The KJV Calls Lucifer the Son Of The Morning
and Jesus The Bright Morning Star

And The NIV Calls The Devil, Well, God Essentially.


Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil;
that put darkness for light, and light for darkness

Isaiah 5:20 NIV Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,
who put darkness for light and light for darkness


idol1


If Isaiah 5 Matches In The KJV And NIV
And Rev 22:16 Matches In The KJV And NIV

Why DOESN"T Isaiah 14:12 ?????


caveat accendo lucem ferre

damned
 Quoting: DoGMoR


Well is Enki is the serpent and Jesus is Enki´s son, we can say that yes ...they are related
  Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking
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Also Zondervan Publishers is owned by Rupert Murdoch, he has exclusive rights to publish the NIV Bible
 Quoting: Hagmann


Ding Ding MARDUK
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The Devils Grandest Trick Will Be

Convincing The World He Doesn't Exist
 Quoting: DoGMoR


no the devil trick is illusion, using a mirror you know like a magician.

look how many mirrors you can find everywhere, why?
 Quoting: Monbazillac


Hey Have You Ever Looked In A Mirror
Opposite Another Mirror
Like At A Barber Shop Or Whatever...

And Noticed The Smaller Mirror In The Lower Corner

And If You Look Inn That Mirrored Mirror

You See Another Even Smaller Mirror.

And On And On.......


Thats The Devils Lie.

Most People Dont Even See The Mirrors Reflection In Another Opposite Facing Mirror.

And The People WHO DO See The Reflection Notice It Eventually Becomes So Small That You Cant Tell Whats In The Mirror Anyway.

The Devils Lie.

Few See It

And He Has Made It Very Obscure For Those Few Who Do.


hell_boy
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never trust a mirror, the only real mirrors are in your eyes and they reflect wut? your soul so the truth!

that's why liars cannot win an eyes battle and that's why it is said a person who cannot stand a children (especially babies) looking at him/her right in the eyes is not a good person leaf boss
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Illuminated and enlightened human beings are given over to the carnal spirit, who is Lucifer! They will have their final fantasy, but in the end they will forfeit their eternal souls!
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The Devils Grandest Trick Will Be

Convincing The World He Doesn't Exist
 Quoting: DoGMoR


no the devil trick is illusion, using a mirror you know like a magician.

look how many mirrors you can find everywhere, why?
 Quoting: Monbazillac


Hey Have You Ever Looked In A Mirror
Opposite Another Mirror
Like At A Barber Shop Or Whatever...

And Noticed The Smaller Mirror In The Lower Corner

And If You Look Inn That Mirrored Mirror

You See Another Even Smaller Mirror.

And On And On.......


Thats The Devils Lie.

Most People Dont Even See The Mirrors Reflection In Another Opposite Facing Mirror.

And The People WHO DO See The Reflection Notice It Eventually Becomes So Small That You Cant Tell Whats In The Mirror Anyway.

The Devils Lie.

Few See It

And He Has Made It Very Obscure For Those Few Who Do.


hell_boy
 Quoting: DoGMoR


never trust a mirror, the only real mirrors are in your eyes and they reflect wut? your soul so the truth!

that's why liars cannot win an eyes battle and that's why it is said a person who cannot stand a children (especially babies) looking at him/her right in the eyes is not a good person :leaf boss:
 Quoting: Monbazillac


+1


Objects In Mirror MAYBE CLOSER Than They Appear
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Yes, there are some errors and mistranslated words in the KJV.
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Like the bit where Jesus mentioned the "end of the age" (aion) but King J's hired guns made it say "end of the world". That's a pretty huge difference, and there's plenty more where that one came from. Even slight errors can alter our understanding substantially, to where we're believing stuff God never had in mind.
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The end of this age is the end of this world. John, in the Book of Revelation, spoke of seeing the new heaven and the new earth.
Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
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Yes, there are some errors and mistranslated words in the KJV.
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Like the bit where Jesus mentioned the "end of the age" (aion) but King J's hired guns made it say "end of the world". That's a pretty huge difference, and there's plenty more where that one came from. Even slight errors can alter our understanding substantially, to where we're believing stuff God never had in mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578

Also, these were inadvertent and some could not be agreed upon. This is why we are to study the Word and not take things at face value.
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As a 27 year Christian I have come to the conclusion that the Bible "Word" has been mistranslated from the very beginning. I don’t understand how even the KJV can be considered the pure word of God as it was translated by a bunch of Masons and with much Catholic influence.

All you have to do is study a little history, be honest with yourself, and it is obvious that ALL the translators throughout ALL history have had a religious agenda contrary to the truth.

Face it people, the enemy has hidden the true and pure version of God’s word from this last generation.

At this point all we can do is the best we can do to try and understand the Word in its present condition.

Love God and love thy neighbor as thy self and in everything you do if you filter your decisions through this love principal then you are closer, and in better standing with God than any professing Christian who doesn’t apply these principals.

Pray, expect to hear in your spirit, and obey what the inner spirit tells you.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15436178


Yup.



Matthew 22 Jesus said "You must love the Lord your God with
all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind."
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Yes, there are some errors and mistranslated words in the KJV.
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Like the bit where Jesus mentioned the "end of the age" (aion) but King J's hired guns made it say "end of the world". That's a pretty huge difference, and there's plenty more where that one came from. Even slight errors can alter our understanding substantially, to where we're believing stuff God never had in mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578

Also, these were inadvertent and some could not be agreed upon. This is why we are to study the Word and not take things at face value.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14422899


Agreed, 100%. Merely reading along with a concordance handy and looking up each term is an eye-opening exercise.

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