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Monkeys Get Autism-like Reactions to MMR & Other Vaccines In University of Pittsburgh Vaccine Study

 
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For anyone who reads this and wonders how to remove the heavy metals and toxins from their body or their childs body:

you can google "oral chelation"

OR: eating cilantro will remove heavy metals
[link to www.naturalnews.com]



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You can buy a cheap cilantro grow kit in many grocery stores and grow the plant in your window...
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I didn't immunize my kids when they were young, although my son ended up having a form of autism anyway. My 13 year old son finally had shots just over a year ago, although they cannot have the MMR because of my health status. Anyway, my 13 year old began to fail in school after his shots, and had serious psychiatric issues arise. He was not like that before, and had a B average, was motivated, etc. He was a bit forgetful, but now they say he has full on ADHD. I believe that the ADHD issue is also cause by the shots and I never hear about that one, but it's a huge problem. Just my opinion.
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I have read studies that say autism is caused by a lack of human contact in early life, genetics, and even the mother taking psychiatric drugs during pregnancy. They have no idea what really causes it, so why would I put my child at unnecessary risk?

[link to medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com]

Please note, under prevention it says:

"Until the cause of autism is discovered, prevention is not possible."

It also says nothing about vaccines, but a whole lot about prenatal development. I choose to reserve judgement until all facts are known.

Edit to AC above: Yes, she was using full sentences by 1. "I want some milk", or "Please read this book", or "I'm hungry!" all count as full sentences. I did not say COMPLEX sentences. :)
 Quoting: Meggarea


Do you have a video of the child speaking these sentences? Seriously, I have never seen this being done by any 1 year old I have ever met or heard of. 1 year olds can say words but it IS complex to put together a sentence.
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She's lying through her vaccinated rotting teeth.
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Believe what you want. No skin off my nose. I feel sorry for all the kids who have parents that believe such things are not possible. If you have faith in your children, and love them, they are capable of wonderful things. Promise.

Believe what you will, do what you will. I am not here to judge anyone, just trying to inject some common sense into the debate. I forgot I was dealing with "true believers". Sorry, won't be making the same mistake again.
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I am a true believer... a believer in FACTS, which I posted some links to answer your earlier questions. And I believe the parents of vaccine injured children who KNOW their kids before and after the shots and see the difference. If there is anything I have learned from GLP, it is to always QUESTION authority. You sound like a nice person, but I cannot grasp your side of the story because that was where I was years ago before my child was, not one of the "lucky ones", otherwise I would not be passionate about this since I researched so much. We each have our own battles I guess.
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I have read studies that say autism is caused by a lack of human contact in early life, genetics, and even the mother taking psychiatric drugs during pregnancy. They have no idea what really causes it, so why would I put my child at unnecessary risk?

[link to medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com]

Please note, under prevention it says:

"Until the cause of autism is discovered, prevention is not possible."

It also says nothing about vaccines, but a whole lot about prenatal development. I choose to reserve judgement until all facts are known.

Edit to AC above: Yes, she was using full sentences by 1. "I want some milk", or "Please read this book", or "I'm hungry!" all count as full sentences. I did not say COMPLEX sentences. :)
 Quoting: Meggarea


Well of course it won't say anything about vaccines for the same reasons the likes of cancer research uk says nothing about chemicals.

Here is some up to date info on the studies of autism and genes..

It found that genes account for 38 percent of autism risk, with environmental factors explaining the remaining 62 percent.

[link to med.stanford.edu]
You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system
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[link to vactruth.com]

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Lead investigator Laura Hewitson, PhD, probably dropped a bombshell when she and her colleagues completed a macaque monkey (primates) study of the very same vaccines given to children during 1994-1999, i.e., the Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) vaccine and several Thimerosal mercury-containing vaccines injected into children during that time frame when the autism spectrum disorder skyrocketed.

The results of that pilot study were published as a Research Paper in Acta Neurobiological Experimentals in 2010 and titled “Influence of pediatric vaccines on amydgala growth and opioid ligand binding in rhesus macaque infants: A pilot study.” [1] Even though there was alleged controversy revolving around Hewitson’s monkey studies, e.g., charges of conflicts of interest since she filed a claim with the vaccine court on behalf of her child, [2] the information generated needs to be revisited and duplicate studies need to be undertaken. Why haven’t they? Is there too much influence from vaccine makers not to do them? Parents need to make demands on the U.S. Congress to require such safety studies on monkeys be duplicated immediately, plus suspend all mandates on vaccinations until the study results are in. Did Dr Hewitson become another professional persona non-grata because she may have been on the right track?

Congress needs to consider seriously the Hewitson, et al. report that stated:

“Vaccine-exposed and saline-injected control infants [monkeys] underwent MRI and PET imaging at approximately 4 and 6 months of age, representing two specific timeframes within the vaccination schedule. …

“These results suggest that maturational changes in amygdala volume and the binding capacity of [11C]DPN in the amygdala was significantly altered in infant macaques receiving the vaccine schedule.” [1]


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Monkeys are not human, so pseudoscience. Anything from vivisection laboratories is quackery
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Well, if you want to volunteer to get those test vaccinations go ahead "hotshot!"
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There is a kill switch on the internett to prevent "unwanted" information to flow freely, just as tptb have put a kill switch in you! swine-flu vac had a genetically modified gene able to turn you off like a light, just look at all the sleeping disorders from it. This has been put in place because they are afraid of the sheeple waking up. Not only do they dumb you down but now they can turn you off.Its pretty hard now not to vacs your kids,and if you dont they know exactly who,where you are.rantviolin
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I live in NY, the police state of the world next to CA. Is there a place i can look to what vaccines are "neccessary" ? I having a baby soon and im not sure what i am aloud to deny. Also, now they have electronic medical records so when i go to the doctor he is gonna ask, "looks like the baby didnt get this and that,w e cant do that today".....
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I am also in NY. The religious exemption is alive and well here. But here, for school purposes, you have to write a short essay explaining, in your own words, what your religious objection is. Simple clear writing is sufficient, they probably just want to be sure the objection is truly religious, not scientific or from some other basis. It does not have to be a "mainstream" religion -- you can still follow Jesus Christ's advice that you do your religious activities in private ("in your closet") rather than affiliating with a big 501c3 "religious" organizations. It's all about your personal beliefs.

As for what they do at birth, probably nothing is required. My younger child was born in another state and the pediatrician strongly recommended that mom get some antibiotic in case there was in infection in the birth canal; I believe this is standard. But the baby got NOTHING and still has not, and has been in school in NY for years now.

Healthy too.
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Do you have a video of the child speaking these sentences? Seriously, I have never seen this being done by any 1 year old I have ever met or heard of. 1 year olds can say words but it IS complex to put together a sentence.
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She's lying through her vaccinated rotting teeth.
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Believe what you want. No skin off my nose. I feel sorry for all the kids who have parents that believe such things are not possible. If you have faith in your children, and love them, they are capable of wonderful things. Promise.

Believe what you will, do what you will. I am not here to judge anyone, just trying to inject some common sense into the debate. I forgot I was dealing with "true believers". Sorry, won't be making the same mistake again.
 Quoting: Meggarea


I am a true believer... a believer in FACTS, which I posted some links to answer your earlier questions. And I believe the parents of vaccine injured children who KNOW their kids before and after the shots and see the difference. If there is anything I have learned from GLP, it is to always QUESTION authority. You sound like a nice person, but I cannot grasp your side of the story because that was where I was years ago before my child was, not one of the "lucky ones", otherwise I would not be passionate about this since I researched so much. We each have our own battles I guess.
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YES...parents and family who KNOW the kids before and after. My nephew was a happy and alert baby, somewhere between the ages of 1 1/2 and 3 he began to slip away and was eventually diagnosed with autism. It's heartbreaking to witness such a change. Something happened to him...he wasn't BORN that way.
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My daughter is fully vaccinated. She is 8 years old and reads on an 8th grade level. She walked at 9 months, was speaking in full sentences before she was 1, reading by 3, and probably has a better vocabulary than some of you. She's also a math whiz.

In addition, she will never catch these terrible diseases. Win, win.
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You do realize, most of the people who are catching these diseases are the ones who HAVE been vaccinated against them, right?

Also, I have seen first hand what happens after a vaccination..

My niece happy, healthy, alert.. after her 3mo shots she had a severe reaction. Well, now she is two and a half and still can't talk.

My good friend had her 3mo old shots done.. seizures, extreme fever, he nearly died.. he was speech delayed and had therapy

A friend from school had her 3 mo old vaccinated, same thing.. speech delayed, therapy and nearly died.

And a woman I know her 3mo old was vaccinated.. she DIED! The Dr's wrote it off as sids..

My other niece developed ADHD..


Vaccines are death

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I am a true believer... a believer in FACTS, which I posted some links to answer your earlier questions. And I believe the parents of vaccine injured children who KNOW their kids before and after the shots and see the difference. If there is anything I have learned from GLP, it is to always QUESTION authority. You sound like a nice person, but I cannot grasp your side of the story because that was where I was years ago before my child was, not one of the "lucky ones", otherwise I would not be passionate about this since I researched so much. We each have our own battles I guess.
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I understand your frustration, and I do try to keep an open mind. I just do not see any real evidence. Perhaps that will change, but in the meantime, it could still be one of many different things causing this. If it was my child, I would not dismiss any hypothesis without intense study, but I would also caution against jumping to conclusions. Every "study" I have seen turns out to be authored by someone who has something to gain if vaccines are declared the cause of autism. That makes me suspicious.

I am not a sheep, or at least I try not to be, but we have been poisoning our air, water, and food supply at least since the Industrial Revolution. There are plenty of things doing terrible things to people, and hundreds of possible causes for this mysterious illness.
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I am a true believer... a believer in FACTS, which I posted some links to answer your earlier questions. And I believe the parents of vaccine injured children who KNOW their kids before and after the shots and see the difference. If there is anything I have learned from GLP, it is to always QUESTION authority. You sound like a nice person, but I cannot grasp your side of the story because that was where I was years ago before my child was, not one of the "lucky ones", otherwise I would not be passionate about this since I researched so much. We each have our own battles I guess.
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I understand your frustration, and I do try to keep an open mind. I just do not see any real evidence. Perhaps that will change, but in the meantime, it could still be one of many different things causing this. If it was my child, I would not dismiss any hypothesis without intense study, but I would also caution against jumping to conclusions. Every "study" I have seen turns out to be authored by someone who has something to gain if vaccines are declared the cause of autism. That makes me suspicious.

I am not a sheep, or at least I try not to be, but we have been poisoning our air, water, and food supply at least since the Industrial Revolution. There are plenty of things doing terrible things to people, and hundreds of possible causes for this mysterious illness.
 Quoting: Meggarea


What would they stand to gain? Dan Olmsted is a journalist. Curt Linderman is the father of a vaccine injured child. Alan Cantwell MD is a doctor. These are not corporations they are people, however they are up against corporations. There is a flip-side to that coin of "gaining something" too... the pharmaceutical corporations have a lot to gain by debunking any connection between autism and vaccines.
I just think they make it look obvious they are hiding something when they lack clear answers, don't provide research on the safety of these vaccines, don't try to make them "green" or have less toxic ingredients, and they even have "paid out" from their vaccine injury fund TO families with autistic kids. They, without saying it, admit fault when they pay those families from that fund.
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I am a true believer... a believer in FACTS, which I posted some links to answer your earlier questions. And I believe the parents of vaccine injured children who KNOW their kids before and after the shots and see the difference. If there is anything I have learned from GLP, it is to always QUESTION authority. You sound like a nice person, but I cannot grasp your side of the story because that was where I was years ago before my child was, not one of the "lucky ones", otherwise I would not be passionate about this since I researched so much. We each have our own battles I guess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15358606


I understand your frustration, and I do try to keep an open mind. I just do not see any real evidence. Perhaps that will change, but in the meantime, it could still be one of many different things causing this. If it was my child, I would not dismiss any hypothesis without intense study, but I would also caution against jumping to conclusions. Every "study" I have seen turns out to be authored by someone who has something to gain if vaccines are declared the cause of autism. That makes me suspicious.

I am not a sheep, or at least I try not to be, but we have been poisoning our air, water, and food supply at least since the Industrial Revolution. There are plenty of things doing terrible things to people, and hundreds of possible causes for this mysterious illness.
 Quoting: Meggarea


What would they stand to gain? Dan Olmsted is a journalist. Curt Linderman is the father of a vaccine injured child. Alan Cantwell MD is a doctor. These are not corporations they are people, however they are up against corporations. There is a flip-side to that coin of "gaining something" too... the pharmaceutical corporations have a lot to gain by debunking any connection between autism and vaccines.
I just think they make it look obvious they are hiding something when they lack clear answers, don't provide research on the safety of these vaccines, don't try to make them "green" or have less toxic ingredients, and they even have "paid out" from their vaccine injury fund TO families with autistic kids. They, without saying it, admit fault when they pay those families from that fund.
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*The vaccine injury fund is a Government fund, not a pharmaceutical corporation fund... just wanted to clarify*
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i knew it!
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Look at the court cases for proof. Pharmaceutical companies pay out billions in vaccine caused autism cases. Last i checked there were 10,000 more cases pending in the US with 8000 cases paid. And that was two years ago.

What more proof do idiot parents need?? These cases prove and the vaccine companies admit fault for autism in a court of law. Do you refuse to believe it just because the TV doesn't tell you?

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That is an excellent point.
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this has to be said.

if you truly believe that you will keep your kid healthy by not being vaccinated there is something wrong with you.

im not for exposing heavy metals to our kids or anyone else for that matter, but vaccinations were designed by real scientists trying to do good....not by corporations trying to do evil.

it's the method of delivery that i take issue with. there are tons of new suspensions that do NOT include any heavy metals though...so you should still get your kid vaccinated.

if you have a child who you didnt vaccinate and they are continually healthy could you at least consider that your child would be extremely healthy either way? some kids/genes have stronger immune systems from the get go.

not all diseases, mutations, illnesses, defects can be blamed on something or something. nature does make mistakes.

not all large corporations are evil. period. quit being a psycho and start thinking about things before you purport that pharmaceutical companies are trying to hurt our kids and cause autism. i could maybe understand if you were arguing the cancer case...because they benefit financially from that...but they do not benefit from autism.
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I didn't immunize my kids when they were young, although my son ended up having a form of autism anyway. My 13 year old son finally had shots just over a year ago, although they cannot have the MMR because of my health status. Anyway, my 13 year old began to fail in school after his shots, and had serious psychiatric issues arise. He was not like that before, and had a B average, was motivated, etc. He was a bit forgetful, but now they say he has full on ADHD. I believe that the ADHD issue is also cause by the shots and I never hear about that one, but it's a huge problem. Just my opinion.
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you would rather blame a single shot for a host of problems than realize that your sons issues could be brought on by a host of other issues? what about puberty? that tends to make kids go crazy. (myself included) what about the workload at school rapidly increasing around this age? kids start to be held more accountable in middle school/junior high and they have some bad stress for the first time in a lot of cases.

in regards to adhd: different doctors will evaluate it differently guaranteed. some doctor on some day will tell you he has "full on" and then another day your son will be diagnosed differently. puberty and hormones make every young man slightly adhd wouldnt you say?
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My daughter is fully vaccinated. She is 8 years old and reads on an 8th grade level. She walked at 9 months, was speaking in full sentences before she was 1, reading by 3, and probably has a better vocabulary than some of you. She's also a math whiz.

In addition, she will never catch these terrible diseases. Win, win.
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You do realize, most of the people who are catching these diseases are the ones who HAVE been vaccinated against them, right?

Also, I have seen first hand what happens after a vaccination..

My niece happy, healthy, alert.. after her 3mo shots she had a severe reaction. Well, now she is two and a half and still can't talk.

My good friend had her 3mo old shots done.. seizures, extreme fever, he nearly died.. he was speech delayed and had therapy

A friend from school had her 3 mo old vaccinated, same thing.. speech delayed, therapy and nearly died.

And a woman I know her 3mo old was vaccinated.. she DIED! The Dr's wrote it off as sids..

My other niece developed ADHD..


Vaccines are death
 Quoting: iamlizzyb


Not scientific at all. have you considered that maybe you are cursed?

I say this because it seems like you have a lot of strife and death in your life.

I personally know thousands...literally thousands...of kids that have had vaccinations that are not ADHD. I also know that they have not caught measles/mumps/rubella widely due to their immunizations.

if you are questioning how i know this many kids and know they have all been vaccinated please just think about it for a second. where would that mean i work?

anyways, the vaccination to autism connection is really hard to prove solidly because of so many other factors. what about the poison in the home/air/water? what if a child is just made to have autism? some kids are born with defects and it isn't anyone's fault.
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How about an independent, controlled study? How about a study that isn’t funded by Big Pharma or anyone else who makes money off vaccines? How about a study of vaccinated versus unvaccinated children?

i will concede that if you have private healthcare and could treat any illness once your child gets it there is probably no need for any vaccine these days...but then if EVERYONE does that...those super diseases could become a huge problem again.
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my son suffered under an MMR vaccine, he was quite different afterwards

He screamed for a few hours after it.....


I am now against most vaccines most the time


the way they are made and filled with garbage



a friend of mine died at 50

he was given vaccines in the early 60s that contained SV 40


which is Simian Virus 40 and has been linked to bone cancer




the PHarma pigs are murderers


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[link to vactruth.com]

[snip]

What's up with the perverts in the new world order always trying to put multitudes of "things" inside our children?

Me thinks this perverse ritual started with the Vatican....or Boy's Town.
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this has to be said.

if you truly believe that you will keep your kid healthy by not being vaccinated there is something wrong with you.

im not for exposing heavy metals to our kids or anyone else for that matter, but vaccinations were designed by real scientists trying to do good....not by corporations trying to do evil.

it's the method of delivery that i take issue with. there are tons of new suspensions that do NOT include any heavy metals though...so you should still get your kid vaccinated.

if you have a child who you didnt vaccinate and they are continually healthy could you at least consider that your child would be extremely healthy either way? some kids/genes have stronger immune systems from the get go.

not all diseases, mutations, illnesses, defects can be blamed on something or something. nature does make mistakes.

not all large corporations are evil. period. quit being a psycho and start thinking about things before you purport that pharmaceutical companies are trying to hurt our kids and cause autism. i could maybe understand if you were arguing the cancer case...because they benefit financially from that...but they do not benefit from autism.
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Yes they do, as they keep pumping their shit into other children, more vacs more money, ffs doesn't take a genius to work that out.
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She had botched research right from the start. There wasn't suddenly more kids getting autism between 1994-1999. More kids were getting diagnosed because the DSM was revised in 1994 and it changed the diagnostic criteria for Autism. Asperger's (a form of Autism) was also included in the DSM for the first time in 1994. With a whole new available diagnosis along with revised autism criteria (previously had to also have schizophrenia symptoms to qualify) it opened the doors for many children to get the diagnosis and help the families needed.

My eldest daughter was fully vaccinated, was running by 7 months and very advanced. No Autism. Has multiple ear infections and asthma.

My son started out on the standard vax schedule and showed delays from birth. Had a reaction to MMR, seizure within days. He has Autism. He's also very smart BTW. Has never been really sick in his life, only one ear infection in 11 years. That's it!

Youngest daughter didn't get vax on the schedule, we did delayed vax and some not at all. She showed delays early on too, no reactions. Has autism, never been sick in her 9 years.

My point? Autism is genetic, you are born with it. Autistic kids are more prone to having reactions and being sensitive to things. More likely to have vax reactions, food allergies etc. The reactions are more pronounced. I think all kids probably don't tolerate vax well, metals and all the processed food, but Autistic kids just show it externally more which is why many assume vax caused it when they are really just seeing the vax reaction more prominately. I have Asperger's, two of my kids received the gene from me

We do over vax our kids though, we have the HIGHEST required vax for infants in the world

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