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A Christian's opinion about Atheists arguments against the existence of God. (Discussion thread)

 
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God isn't the definition of spirituality. It is just as spiritual to take LSD and mescaline and chant around a fire. Thus, feelings of spirituality are programmed into the human biochemistry. Read DMT: The Spirit Molecule.

You're fooling yourself into believing your nothing more than a naturally haywire complex nerve formation fueled by drugs and bio-electricity. Evolution will slowly replace humans who are exceptionally spiritual by means of suicide and war; those who are too selfish to accept their 'god' is no bigger invention than someone elses.
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Yes... The mocking... the ridiculing... the reviling... the jeering... and the spitting... Shall all be silenced, in one hour. Replaced with mourning, sorrow, and regret beyond description.



"But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he has declared to his servants the prophets."
Revelation 10:7
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God is the sum of our collective conscience. That is how god can be all knowing.

Our universe, our reality is the manifestation of our collective conscience. That is how god created the universe.

We are all interconnected star dust trying to make sense of our existence.
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Why do you capitalize any and every adjective that refers to what you think is the gender of god?
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I'm going to jump straight to the juice of my qualms with this topic.

Firstly, one has to understand just how absurd the existence of a god is. If written in a book, one deems it fiction.

With that in mind, why is it so hard for christians to accept the possiblity of there being no god, or intelligent creator?

This shit is obviously above our understanding so I don't see the point in arguing over it over & over again.

But I ask you this: If someone come sup to you & says "dragons are real." You will say "No they aren't."

How do you fuckin' know?

I'm an athiest, by the way. But I don't go around telling Christians they're wrong. I don't appreciate Christians telling me I am wrong. This life is not about being right, it's about living it the way you want.
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As far as the atheist argument comparing God to "Santa Claus" or the "Tooth Fairy", it is not so much the label, as the concept of the Creator. Where did all of this come from? Where did we come from?
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It's exactly like santa claus. You're the kid saying on Xmas morn,

"where did all these presents come from"

then you are told

"why santa claus little one"

the correct answer (though quite cold) would be

"well we all bought you things from shops, wrapped them up then hid them from you. Then your father crept downstairs at 3 in the morning to deposit them under the tree."

The correct answer to "where did life come from" is quite simply "evolution"

The exact operators of evolution are merely "crossover" and "mutation" admitedly you would have to wait LOTS of years for an amino acid to randomly form that performs those crossovers. But the universe is a BIG place and has ALOT of time.
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And now you're speaking from 100% faith. I know you've been told by a lot of people in high places that evolution is true and there is lots of evidence for it. There isn't. Those are simply mantras.

Believe it if you want. Just don't kid yourself that you're on the side of science.
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As far as the atheist argument comparing God to "Santa Claus" or the "Tooth Fairy", it is not so much the label, as the concept of the Creator. Where did all of this come from? Where did we come from?
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It's exactly like santa claus. You're the kid saying on Xmas morn,

"where did all these presents come from"

then you are told

"why santa claus little one"

the correct answer (though quite cold) would be

"well we all bought you things from shops, wrapped them up then hid them from you. Then your father crept downstairs at 3 in the morning to deposit them under the tree."

The correct answer to "where did life come from" is quite simply "evolution"

The exact operators of evolution are merely "crossover" and "mutation" admitedly you would have to wait LOTS of years for an amino acid to randomly form that performs those crossovers. But the universe is a BIG place and has ALOT of time.
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And now you're speaking from 100% faith. I know you've been told by a lot of people in high places that evolution is true and there is lots of evidence for it. There isn't. Those are simply mantras.

Believe it if you want. Just don't kid yourself that you're on the side of science.
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No it's not. Pretty much every discipline from archaeology to biochemistry confirms evolution. You are just ignoring the facts.
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No it's not. Pretty much every discipline from archaeology to biochemistry confirms evolution. You are just ignoring the facts.
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lol, well maybe you can be the first poster on GLP to provide evidence for Evolution, psych. good luck!

ah but it is so much easier to base your reality on what your academic priesthood tells you to believe, right?

professors will lose their jobs if they threaten the sacred cow of Evolution. that is a fact. might have something to do with the implied consensus in the university system?

anyways,

you need evolution to be true. evidence doesn't matter at all to you. you know that.
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Christards are fucked up in the head since the cradle and upwards.
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It's impossible to believe in nothing.
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Christards are fucked up in the head since the cradle and upwards.
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Do you believe in nothing, as in, nothing ever has a point of creation?
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Christards are fucked up in the head since the cradle and upwards.
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Do you believe in nothing, as in, nothing ever has a point of creation?
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As in your specific abrahamic desert blood cult deity? Then no. Christianity is slowly nearing the ranks of mythology and being replaced by reason. At least future generations won’t have to put up with your fucked up religion.
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Christards are fucked up in the head since the cradle and upwards.
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Do you believe in nothing, as in, nothing ever has a point of creation?
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As in your specific abrahamic desert blood cult deity? Then no. Christianity is slowly nearing the ranks of mythology and being replaced by reason. At least future generations won’t have to put up with your fucked up religion.
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Nice spin to bash christianity, fool.
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Bump for the Lord! hf
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Bump for the Lord! hf
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Thank goodness that creationists like you (Muslim immigrant probably) are among the fringe in Sweden.
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Re: A Christian's opinion about Atheists arguments against the existence of God. (Discussion thread)
Nice start post OP, but i bring you another version answer for #4.
i was asked this same question, on this very site. tbh, i was quite baffled by it, and had to call my grandmother for hrr opinion.
i believe the question brought to me was one of the Omni's, atheists like to use the Omni's to. under Omnipotent, that God is "all powerful" i was asked the rock question.
my grand mother presented another question to me:
since when does "all powerful" exactly represent only phisical strength?
tbh, God wrestled Isacc and lost didnt He? and has the angel Micheal fight His battles doesnt He? and its even stated the meek shall inherit the earth right? yet by a simple thought He creates, by a word from His mouth it comes to be.
so i proposed this:
yes He can create a rock He cant lift, but the question shouldnt be then why cant He lift it, it should be, how the fuck did He manifest a huge rock by a simple thought, and if He can do that what can He do to me if i piss Him off LOL!
Atheist want logic, well hows that for logic.
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Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords. hf
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An infinite god with infinite power, could easily create using evolution as it's tool.
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My opinion on God and this is coming from someone who was raised catholic but became a atheist in high school and until a few years ago realized that there is a God and it's completely logical. Just look at the universe there is too much order in it for there not to be a God. Without God everything in the universe would be chaos. Our reality consists of cycles big and small. From the cycles of a stars life to the circle of life on our planet. There has to be something that put all this into place. I'm not a religious person I'd rather think of myself as more spiritual rather than religious. I just think pegging your belief system into one religion is very narrow minded. I also look at everything with a scientific approach, because I believe everything can be explained scientificly. Even the existence of God.
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How do you square a loving, compassionate God with the doctrine of eternal hellfire?

If none come to the Father except those that are called, how is it acceptable to punish those that are not called?

There are 16 world religions with over 1 million followers. I suppose 17 if you include atheism/agnosticism. None have a scrap of physical evidence to backup their claims - when you have a 1 in 17 chance of guessing correctly, how is 14 billion years in a frying pan just punishment for guessing wrong?

A quick google search shows hundreds of factual contradictions in the bible. If it is the word of God, how come God made some factual errors in his book?
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I think you should be more concerned with the Islamic flood instead of trying to justify yourself to us buddy. They will crush you and make it impossible for you to be a Christian.
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My opinion on God and this is coming from someone who was raised catholic but became a atheist in high school and until a few years ago realized that there is a God and it's completely logical. Just look at the universe there is too much order in it for there not to be a God. Without God everything in the universe would be chaos. Our reality consists of cycles big and small. From the cycles of a stars life to the circle of life on our planet. There has to be something that put all this into place. I'm not a religious person I'd rather think of myself as more spiritual rather than religious. I just think pegging your belief system into one religion is very narrow minded. I also look at everything with a scientific approach, because I believe everything can be explained scientificly. Even the existence of God.
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There only appears to be order in the universe because you weren't a around to witness the billions of years of chaotic trial and error.

Evolution is absolutely factual and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt and it has been for most of your lives. You simply ignore the vast mountains of evidence.
'Faith' is the acknowledgment that you have absolutely no justification for the silly shit you believe.
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Btw the Bible is not the word of God. It's not even the original it's been butchered over the. centuries. Things have been taken out and put in and we all know that. The Bible is the word of man and it has been edited by man for a long time to control the masses.
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My opinion on God and this is coming from someone who was raised catholic but became a atheist in high school and until a few years ago realized that there is a God and it's completely logical. Just look at the universe there is too much order in it for there not to be a God. Without God everything in the universe would be chaos. Our reality consists of cycles big and small. From the cycles of a stars life to the circle of life on our planet. There has to be something that put all this into place. I'm not a religious person I'd rather think of myself as more spiritual rather than religious. I just think pegging your belief system into one religion is very narrow minded. I also look at everything with a scientific approach, because I believe everything can be explained scientificly. Even the existence of God.
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There only appears to be order in the universe because you weren't a around to witness the billions of years of chaotic trial and error.

Evolution is absolutely factual and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt and it has been for most of your lives. You simply ignore the vast mountains of evidence.
 Quoting: Mango Positive


I'm not saying there is no evolution. There is hardcore evidence of that in every living thing on the planet. Did you read where I said I take a scientific approach to everything I'm looking at? Why can't God and evolution both exist? Obviously Gods not going to have animals pop out of nowhere into existence. I don't believe we were created in Gods image either. However I do believe there is a supreme being governing the laws of physics in our reality. I don't think he's anything like what the Bible makes makes him out to be.
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1. All Gods/religions are nothing more than creations of men. A tool to control the lowly peasants. There have been thousands of gods worshiped over time by man, each of these gods cease to exist the second there's nobody left to worship them.


2. I contend that the OP is as atheists as I am. I just believe in one fewer god than he does. When he understands why I dismiss all the other possible gods, He will understand why I dismiss his.

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1. All Gods/religions are nothing more than creations of men. A tool to control the lowly peasants. There have been thousands of gods worshiped over time by man, each of these gods cease to exist the second there's nobody left to worship them.


2. I contend that the OP is as atheists as I am. I just believe in one fewer god than he does. When he understands why he dismisses all the other possible gods, He will understand why I dismiss his.


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1. The first point of "who created god" is a response to the first cause argument and or Kamal cosmology . The first cause argument is attempting to use logic to prove god through the laws of cause and effect. Therefor it must open itself up to logic's criticism . If you are are attempting to prove God this way it is more than a valid question to ask what caused God.

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Nothing caused God, He just exists. Just think about it gives me a headache.
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As far as the atheist argument comparing God to "Santa Claus" or the "Tooth Fairy", it is not so much the label, as the concept of the Creator. Where did all of this come from? Where did we come from?
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It's exactly like santa claus. You're the kid saying on Xmas morn,

"where did all these presents come from"

then you are told

"why santa claus little one"

the correct answer (though quite cold) would be

"well we all bought you things from shops, wrapped them up then hid them from you. Then your father crept downstairs at 3 in the morning to deposit them under the tree."

The correct answer to "where did life come from" is quite simply "evolution"

The exact operators of evolution are merely "crossover" and "mutation" admitedly you would have to wait LOTS of years for an amino acid to randomly form that performs those crossovers. But the universe is a BIG place and has ALOT of time.
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So a christian believes in God(santa claus), but you are more logical because you believe in the tooth fairy(big bang)?
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Re: A Christian's opinion about Atheists arguments against the existence of God. (Discussion thread)
The entire point is you cannot define "God". Any sort of greater supreme being in existence would be a "God".

Do i believe such a Being exists? Yes
Do i take religious text literal? No

Almost every religious text teaches great thing's threw metaphors. The issue is that of people taking them literal to the extreme. Being an extremest on any terms or labeling yourself any religion is nothing more than filling in the gap of your needed social acceptance. Especially in modern times where culture is all but dead and the only thing you can see in your surroundings is awkward sub-cultures that all have issues with one another. You can pick one and blindly fit in with the masses or chose to sit on the outside and examine all of them as a whole. The choice is up to you....

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