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A Christian's opinion about Atheists arguments against the existence of God. (Discussion thread)

 
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I completley appreciate and respect people of faith - its their right to believe in whatever they want.
I went to a Church of England school, said prayers every day and did bible and religious studies - but when I left school I saw the bible very differently - for me personally I saw its teachings a guide for society to live a decent life - to be good and tollerant human beings. ( I don't mean to come accross as saying 'its ONLY a guide etc' I say this with the upmost respect.

The problem with threads like these is that so will get trolled by people that won't accept that people are different and end up resorting to damning the non-believers to hell come rapture time etc. - which is a shame because its not just about religion or God - is a fantastic opportunity to have a philisophical debate.

My Signature below is a bit of a 'bait' but it does some up my opinion about God and religion. However, I still consider myself to be a spiritual person who reflects often - just not in the way christians do.

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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

~Epicurus 33 A.D
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I have nothing against Atheists (some of which are the smartest people I know) and nothing against people of great faith (some of the kindest and smartest people I know).

But in reality, both groups do some rotten things. Muslims (do I really need to say anything more?). Christians and their interpretations of holy text gets on my nerves the same way Government gets on my nerves about the Supremacy Clause of the US Constitution.

Atheists really get on my nerves with the whole separation of "Church and State" business. Talk about a warped interpretation of text.

In any case, It is my opinion that anyone who would use religion as a pretext of enslavement or to subjugate others to their ill feelings based on it need their heads examined.

We live in a sick society when speaking about God in public is treated the same as Politics where an opinion or view is considered almost shameful to speak about. On the other hand, who really wants to deal with those who cannot see their own misgivings yet point out all of another's? God cannot be pleased with this behavior and its an insult to a free thinker too.
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The entire point is you cannot define "God". Any sort of greater supreme being in existence would be a "God".

Do i believe such a Being exists? Yes
Do i take religious text literal? No

Almost every religious text teaches great thing's threw metaphors. The issue is that of people taking them literal to the extreme. Being an extremest on any terms or labeling yourself any religion is nothing more than filling in the gap of your needed social acceptance. Especially in modern times where culture is all but dead and the only thing you can see in your surroundings is awkward sub-cultures that all have issues with one another. You can pick one and blindly fit in with the masses or chose to sit on the outside and examine all of them as a whole. The choice is up to you....
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So you believe in a creator,supreme being but not a "God"?
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The entire point is you cannot define "God". Any sort of greater supreme being in existence would be a "God".

Do i believe such a Being exists? Yes
Do i take religious text literal? No

Almost every religious text teaches great thing's threw metaphors. The issue is that of people taking them literal to the extreme. Being an extremest on any terms or labeling yourself any religion is nothing more than filling in the gap of your needed social acceptance. Especially in modern times where culture is all but dead and the only thing you can see in your surroundings is awkward sub-cultures that all have issues with one another. You can pick one and blindly fit in with the masses or chose to sit on the outside and examine all of them as a whole. The choice is up to you....
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So you believe in a creator,supreme being but not a "God"?
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Nvm seems original post answered question.
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Evolution happens within our lifetimes...viruses and bacteria regularly mutate/evolve to survive the latest medicines. That can even be seen within the time span of days sometimes.

Science has literally tons of experimental evidence to back it up. Religion has zero evidence.

Religion is fine as a belief system - some of it might even be true. But when religitards start bashing FACTUAL PROVEN SCIENCE then they just look like total morons.
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First, you must know some pretty simpleminded atheists if those are the sort of questions you get.

They sound more like questions some Christian evangelist would claim atheists ask in order to deliver his trite patronizing rhetoric.

Secondly... KEN HOVIND?

Really?
At this stage we're still getting links to Ken Hovind?

Ken "arrested on 58 charges of fraud and tax evasion" Hovind...
That's who you use as the backbone of your thread?


Fair enough but I am forced to question his integrity given his history, anyway back to your questions...

TBH, I never ask any of those questions you posit as common atheist inquiries.
But here's a question I do sometimes ask people like you... what kind of God allows Josef Fritzel's daughter to suffer twenty years of rape and captivity at the hands of her father?

What was the "divine" plan for her and all the other countless souls suffering like her right this second?

You don't think they are praying, begging God to help them... but for most of them, for 99% of them... God is callously silent.

What possible lesson did God want her to learn and could only be delivered by twenty years of rape, every single day for two decades of her life?
For her to give birth to his children and then have them forced to watch?

How DARE you preach this drivel about a compassionate God in the face of such suffering, what cheek, what arrogance, what blindness.

I'm sure God works in mysterious ways and all, but I'm just asking you to speculate, hypothesize for us, wonder aloud... what was your all loving compassionate God trying to teach that girl?

Your God created all of existence knowing that one day that girl would be in that basement... Please, justify that with your faith if you can and demonstrate the utter arrogance and lack of any real compassion that typifies the religous believer.

You make yourself feel better with warm and fluffy stories about a caring God benevolently watching over his children... You just ignore the vast unimaginable scale of innocent suffering in the world.

A single child doesn't die in a burning building and you're all praising God's intervention while you ignore the other countless children enduring brutal horrific suffering every second of the day.

Religion isn't a crutch, it's a fluffy pillow you bury your face in and shut out the reality of existence because you can't cope any other way.

I trust my tone was civil enough for your thread, good day.
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typical mundane thinking, we all have the free will to committ sin, even at the expense of other souls. That womans father will receive his judgement when he dies and that is exactly what the OP is talking about.
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This thread is pointless. It only shouws that you can't prove or disprove a particular thing. One thing is certain - religions are lies. Not saying a god or gods do not exist, for i don't know and i don't care.
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Christianity is such a bronze age belief, it was written by men with old values.

There is no meaning to life.
The circumstances of ones birth are irrelevant. It is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are.

There is no end, there is no beginning.

Welcome to existence, enjoy your stay.

Either we will die off, or religion will die off. What the world needs right now is people who think for themselves, people who refuse to be conditioned.
Truth is hard to come by...
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Who gives a shit about religion anymore? Go away.
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Who gives a shit about religion anymore? Go away.
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those of us who haven't been blinded by the god of this world.
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Religitards hate science...

...Yet they all text, have iphones, ipads, cars, fly in planes, have laptops, use the internet, have washing machines, dryers, dish washers, watch tv, listen to dvds, go on trains....

...yet they still claim that science is another religion, not based on fact or having evidence.

Losers.
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First, you must know some pretty simpleminded atheists if those are the sort of questions you get.

They sound more like questions some Christian evangelist would claim atheists ask in order to deliver his trite patronizing rhetoric.

Secondly... KEN HOVIND?

Really?
At this stage we're still getting links to Ken Hovind?

Ken "arrested on 58 charges of fraud and tax evasion" Hovind...
That's who you use as the backbone of your thread?


Fair enough but I am forced to question his integrity given his history, anyway back to your questions...

TBH, I never ask any of those questions you posit as common atheist inquiries.
But here's a question I do sometimes ask people like you... what kind of God allows Josef Fritzel's daughter to suffer twenty years of rape and captivity at the hands of her father?

What was the "divine" plan for her and all the other countless souls suffering like her right this second?

You don't think they are praying, begging God to help them... but for most of them, for 99% of them... God is callously silent.

What possible lesson did God want her to learn and could only be delivered by twenty years of rape, every single day for two decades of her life?
For her to give birth to his children and then have them forced to watch?

How DARE you preach this drivel about a compassionate God in the face of such suffering, what cheek, what arrogance, what blindness.

I'm sure God works in mysterious ways and all, but I'm just asking you to speculate, hypothesize for us, wonder aloud... what was your all loving compassionate God trying to teach that girl?

Your God created all of existence knowing that one day that girl would be in that basement... Please, justify that with your faith if you can and demonstrate the utter arrogance and lack of any real compassion that typifies the religous believer.

You make yourself feel better with warm and fluffy stories about a caring God benevolently watching over his children... You just ignore the vast unimaginable scale of innocent suffering in the world.

A single child doesn't die in a burning building and you're all praising God's intervention while you ignore the other countless children enduring brutal horrific suffering every second of the day.

Religion isn't a crutch, it's a fluffy pillow you bury your face in and shut out the reality of existence because you can't cope any other way.

I trust my tone was civil enough for your thread, good day.
 Quoting: The Ghost of Hitch 15489233




OP was right about you.

You do hate God.

And if you think that Christianity (after all... that IS what you re talking about... right?) is a crutch or a fluffy pillow, then obviously you've never turned against the current, and seriously resisted Satan... have you.

If you think Christianity is a fluffy pillow or crutch, then it's obvious you've never given it a serious go. Jesus even warned us... "It this world, you WILL have tribulation".

Going with the flow, is the REAL crutch.
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Religitards hate science...

...Yet they all text, have iphones, ipads, cars, fly in planes, have laptops, use the internet, have washing machines, dryers, dish washers, watch tv, listen to dvds, go on trains....

...yet they still claim that science is another religion, not based on fact or having evidence.

Losers.
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The scientific theories are beliefs as well: until proven wrong. Which is happening all the human history.
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"For the fool hath said there is no God...." One only has to look at all creation from a molecule to the expansive universe to see there IS a God and Creator.
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Religitards hate science...

...Yet they all text, have iphones, ipads, cars, fly in planes, have laptops, use the internet, have washing machines, dryers, dish washers, watch tv, listen to dvds, go on trains....

...yet they still claim that science is another religion, not based on fact or having evidence.

Losers.
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The scientific theories are beliefs as well: until proven wrong. Which is happening all the human history.
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Those theories have been tested many times. If something can be tested many times and get the same results, it's a pretty damn good theory.
Truth is hard to come by...
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Religitards hate science...

...Yet they all text, have iphones, ipads, cars, fly in planes, have laptops, use the internet, have washing machines, dryers, dish washers, watch tv, listen to dvds, go on trains....

...yet they still claim that science is another religion, not based on fact or having evidence.

Losers.
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The scientific theories are beliefs as well: until proven wrong. Which is happening all the human history.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24276364


Those theories have been tested many times. If something can be tested many times and get the same results, it's a pretty damn good theory.
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They are valid within their self-imposed frames only, their assumtions. E.g. Newton´s laws against the Eistein´s Theory of Relativity against the Quantum Theory ... and on and on.

Reality is bigger than any theory all the time. The scientific beliefs are no different.
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I would simply to call this thread straightforwardly stupid.

Let me get this straight: there is a CREATOR. Or God, as you may like to call him, or her, or it.

But the Creator is not the Christian God, so both the Christians and the atheists got it wrong. The Baahble says God created humans according to his own image. Now this is pure human arrogance at its highest level. I wouldn't even argue against the points OP makes, because they are irrelevant.

The Creator doesn't have a shape or form. It doesn't have a body, while at the same time it does.

Don't you see? The Creator is All. It is the Universe Itself.

We, like rocks, trees, air, planets, suns, are merely cells of this one intelligent being.

We are God, an ocean that contains countless water droplets that are Us.

And in the end, what, or who is the Creator? The great engineer who IS the rule of physics and mathematics? Pythagorus said that God ruled over the universe through geometry. Plato had the sign over his academy that said "those who do not understand geometry shall not pass through this door."

The Creator is pure Intelligence at an immeasurable cosmic level, beyond you and me, and that idiotic holy book, kay?
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The Creator is All. It is the Universe Itself.
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Wrong. God´s Spirit is the Breath of the Creation, not the Creation.

Stick your polytheism elsewhere.
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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
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I noticed one thing about ATHEISTS, they are the BIGGEST PUSSIES IN THE UNIVERSE, whenever they argue about the GOD they always AIM at CHRISTIANS, never, ever, will they ARGUE about ISLAM/MUSLIMS or with THEM, now why? Simple, they would get their heads chopped off. So, ATHEISTS are biggest pussies in the universe.
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First, you must know some pretty simpleminded atheists if those are the sort of questions you get.

They sound more like questions some Christian evangelist would claim atheists ask in order to deliver his trite patronizing rhetoric.

Secondly... KEN HOVIND?

Really?
At this stage we're still getting links to Ken Hovind?

Ken "arrested on 58 charges of fraud and tax evasion" Hovind...
That's who you use as the backbone of your thread?


Fair enough but I am forced to question his integrity given his history, anyway back to your questions...

TBH, I never ask any of those questions you posit as common atheist inquiries.
But here's a question I do sometimes ask people like you... what kind of God allows Josef Fritzel's daughter to suffer twenty years of rape and captivity at the hands of her father?

What was the "divine" plan for her and all the other countless souls suffering like her right this second?

You don't think they are praying, begging God to help them... but for most of them, for 99% of them... God is callously silent.

What possible lesson did God want her to learn and could only be delivered by twenty years of rape, every single day for two decades of her life?
For her to give birth to his children and then have them forced to watch?

How DARE you preach this drivel about a compassionate God in the face of such suffering, what cheek, what arrogance, what blindness.

I'm sure God works in mysterious ways and all, but I'm just asking you to speculate, hypothesize for us, wonder aloud... what was your all loving compassionate God trying to teach that girl?

Your God created all of existence knowing that one day that girl would be in that basement... Please, justify that with your faith if you can and demonstrate the utter arrogance and lack of any real compassion that typifies the religous believer.

You make yourself feel better with warm and fluffy stories about a caring God benevolently watching over his children... You just ignore the vast unimaginable scale of innocent suffering in the world.

A single child doesn't die in a burning building and you're all praising God's intervention while you ignore the other countless children enduring brutal horrific suffering every second of the day.

Religion isn't a crutch, it's a fluffy pillow you bury your face in and shut out the reality of existence because you can't cope any other way.

I trust my tone was civil enough for your thread, good day.
 Quoting: The Ghost of Hitch 15489233




OP was right about you.

You do hate God.

And if you think that Christianity (after all... that IS what you re talking about... right?) is a crutch or a fluffy pillow, then obviously you've never turned against the current, and seriously resisted Satan... have you.

If you think Christianity is a fluffy pillow or crutch, then it's obvious you've never given it a serious go. Jesus even warned us... "It this world, you WILL have tribulation".

Going with the flow, is the REAL crutch.
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When you realize that God AND Satan are two imaginary characters from an old book, YOU will finally grow up. Religion is a crutch. All these people who still cling to a crusty old book are proof of that. You use religion to give you happiness, to make you feel better about yourself, to pretend that you will live after death, to imagine meeting up with God after death and getting some kind of reward, and on and on. That is the crutch I think he is talking about.

Atheists don't HATE God. We don't believe in God so it is impossible to hate something that doesn't exist. I don't believe in unicorns. Would you honestly tell me that I hate unicorns?? I don't think so. What I hate, and I am just speaking for myself, is people who try to force others to believe what they do. I am an atheist. I don't care what YOU believe but don't tell me that I'm going to hell because I don't believe in your Christian God, or your Muslim God, or your Mormon God. I am sick to death of that shit. Keep your opinions about your myths to yourself.

Research the life of Jesus, you will see that he didn't even exist. The myth of Jesus was copied from earlier pagan myths about sun Gods, like Mithras. Why do you think that Jesus has the same birthday as so many other pagan God? Why do you think Easter is celebrated on the same day that Ishtar (a pagan goddess) rose from the dead? Look at the names, even those are very similar. Why is Jesus not included in the history books our kids read at school? I don't care if you don't believe me because I know that people like you would never bother to research this.

That is because you want to hold on to your crutch. The truth; that you won't live after death, that you won't see your dead loved ones again, that you don't have a mansion in the sky, that no one hears your prayers, is too hard to comprehend. You need that crutch because you can't live without it. When you admit this to yourself, you finally grow up and stop clinging to ancient myths in some kind of vain hope that you might have life after death.

And I honestly feel that this is the main reason why we have so many Christians in America. Most people can't accept that this life is all you get. It is like everything else, you need to have more, bigger, better things ahead. Life has to be a fairy tale with a happy ending. But the truth is sometimes a bitter pill to take. Grow up and you will make the most of this life you have instead of wishing it would end so you can have bigger and better things.
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I noticed one thing about ATHEISTS, they are the BIGGEST PUSSIES IN THE UNIVERSE, whenever they argue about the GOD they always AIM at CHRISTIANS, never, ever, will they ARGUE about ISLAM/MUSLIMS or with THEM, now why? Simple, they would get their heads chopped off. So, ATHEISTS are biggest pussies in the universe.
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We don't usually mention Muslims because it is redundant. The Muslims and Christians worship the same God, the God of the desert. Muslims have more stories about Jesus in their book than the Bible does. The Koran has stories about Abraham, Moses, etc. The only difference is that Muslims think Jesus was a prophet and Christians think he is God.

I think BOTH religions and all religions are silly. I think YOU are the PUSSY because you can't face the fact that you are an evolved animal who will not live after death. You can't face the fact that you don't have a sky daddy in the sky who listens to you when you whine. You are a pussy because you can't imagine that someone as special as you would not live forever. Grow up.
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I would simply to call this thread straightforwardly stupid.

Let me get this straight: there is a CREATOR. Or God, as you may like to call him, or her, or it.

But the Creator is not the Christian God, so both the Christians and the atheists got it wrong. The Baahble says God created humans according to his own image. Now this is pure human arrogance at its highest level. I wouldn't even argue against the points OP makes, because they are irrelevant.

The Creator doesn't have a shape or form. It doesn't have a body, while at the same time it does.

Don't you see? The Creator is All. It is the Universe Itself.

We, like rocks, trees, air, planets, suns, are merely cells of this one intelligent being.

We are God, an ocean that contains countless water droplets that are Us.

And in the end, what, or who is the Creator? The great engineer who IS the rule of physics and mathematics? Pythagorus said that God ruled over the universe through geometry. Plato had the sign over his academy that said "those who do not understand geometry shall not pass through this door."

The Creator is pure Intelligence at an immeasurable cosmic level, beyond you and me, and that idiotic holy book, kay?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24485754

This might be true but why call it "God." When I think of the creator or God, I don't imagine physics or mathematics or geometry. Just call it what it is: The law of physics or mathematics or geometry. You shouldn't be calling this "god."
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I noticed one thing about ATHEISTS, they are the BIGGEST PUSSIES IN THE UNIVERSE, whenever they argue about the GOD they always AIM at CHRISTIANS, never, ever, will they ARGUE about ISLAM/MUSLIMS or with THEM, now why? Simple, they would get their heads chopped off. So, ATHEISTS are biggest pussies in the universe.
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We don't usually mention Muslims because it is redundant. The Muslims and Christians worship the same God, the God of the desert. Muslims have more stories about Jesus in their book than the Bible does. The Koran has stories about Abraham, Moses, etc. The only difference is that Muslims think Jesus was a prophet and Christians think he is God.

I think BOTH religions and all religions are silly. I think YOU are the PUSSY because you can't face the fact that you are an evolved animal who will not live after death. You can't face the fact that you don't have a sky daddy in the sky who listens to you when you whine. You are a pussy because you can't imagine that someone as special as you would not live forever. Grow up.
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If you have not realised the difference between an animal and an human by now you are retarded.
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It is not what you BELIEVE, It is what you DO that matters.
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It is not what you BELIEVE, It is what you DO that matters.
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Yet it´s our beliefs that cause us to act. Wrong beliefs = wrong doing and vice versa.
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Atheists don't believe in god because they are narcissists and they do not want to believe in god because they don't want to:

l. follow the rules - the ten commandments don't apply to them!

2. they think that no one should be "above" or "greater" then they are;

3. the belief in god means that they would be judged and found imperfect;

4. atheists can't deal with being less than perfect; (i.e. the concept of sin).

5. atheists can't deal with not being the center of attention.

They can't stand people who do believe in god, because others belief in god unnerves them; because it is disturbing that other people are "worshiping" something other than the narcissist.

That's why atheists are always attacking the believers! Just remember, they resent the rules, the worshipping of another; the fact that they have to acknowledge that they are capable of being sinful. They don't want anybody telling them what to do.

No one can prove or disprove the existence of god. This is a matter of faith and
is not something that can be determined by logic. At best, it is a 50-50 chance either way. However, people that are focused on "proving" god's nonexistence
are generally motivated by their own narcissistic needs.
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Re: A Christian's opinion about Atheists arguments against the existence of God. (Discussion thread)
Atheists don't believe in god because they are narcissists and they do not want to believe in god because they don't want to:

l. follow the rules - the ten commandments don't apply to them!

2. they think that no one should be "above" or "greater" then they are;

3. the belief in god means that they would be judged and found imperfect;

4. atheists can't deal with being less than perfect; (i.e. the concept of sin).

5. atheists can't deal with not being the center of attention.

They can't stand people who do believe in god, because others belief in god unnerves them; because it is disturbing that other people are "worshiping" something other than the narcissist.

That's why atheists are always attacking the believers! Just remember, they resent the rules, the worshipping of another; the fact that they have to acknowledge that they are capable of being sinful. They don't want anybody telling them what to do.

No one can prove or disprove the existence of god. This is a matter of faith and
is not something that can be determined by logic. At best, it is a 50-50 chance either way. However, people that are focused on "proving" god's nonexistence
are generally motivated by their own narcissistic needs.
 Quoting: genieinthebottle 23416741


lol i just don't believe in God because im not giving the only life i know for a life that has such a small possibility of being true. Religion is for the weak. and last time i checked im not a narcissist. I could careless what people believe in as long as it isn't Mohammad.

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I
dismiss yours.”

btw stop judging.
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Re: A Christian's opinion about Atheists arguments against the existence of God. (Discussion thread)
Atheists don't believe in god because they are narcissists and they do not want to believe in god because they don't want to:

l. follow the rules - the ten commandments don't apply to them!

2. they think that no one should be "above" or "greater" then they are;

3. the belief in god means that they would be judged and found imperfect;

4. atheists can't deal with being less than perfect; (i.e. the concept of sin).

5. atheists can't deal with not being the center of attention.

They can't stand people who do believe in god, because others belief in god unnerves them; because it is disturbing that other people are "worshiping" something other than the narcissist.

That's why atheists are always attacking the believers! Just remember, they resent the rules, the worshipping of another; the fact that they have to acknowledge that they are capable of being sinful. They don't want anybody telling them what to do.

No one can prove or disprove the existence of god. This is a matter of faith and
is not something that can be determined by logic. At best, it is a 50-50 chance either way. However, people that are focused on "proving" god's nonexistence
are generally motivated by their own narcissistic needs.
 Quoting: genieinthebottle 23416741

Christians believe in God because they are narcissists. They think some "man" in the sky loves them to death. They don't particularly care that this same "man" will torture most of humanity forever. Christians only think of themselves.

Christians NEVER follow the ten commandments or anything that Jesus tells them. Jesus says they should love their enemies but they hate atheists. Jesus tells them to give everything they own to the poor, but they keep everything because they think they are entitled. They are jealous, greedy, envious, full of pride, self-righteous, hypocrites but they STILL think they are going to heaven because they think God loves them SOOOO much that he sent his son to die for THEM. They make their religion all about them because they are so selfish and small minded. Jesus said the road is narrow and FEW find the way but Christians always think they are on the narrow road. What a joke they are.

Christians think they are better than everyone. Everyone else is wrong but THEY are right. They just happen to be born in American where practically everyone is a Christian so they don't particularly care if Hindus, Buddhists, etc. will burn in a lake of fire because they just happened to be born in the wrong country. Christians are totally self absorbed and actually evil. That is why they worship an evil God. There is no "real" God. God is simply who they are on the inside and mostly Christians are very self-centered.

Christians don't worry about being sinners. They think all of their sins are excused because of some simple-minded belief that a man died for them. So they cheat on their husbands/wives, delve into pornography, lie, cheat and steal and they always think they can get away with it by saying a simple prayer. Is it any wonder that atheists feel Christians are delusional?

Christians hate atheists because we can see through them. We know that the only reason they "worship" Bible God is because they think they will get some wonderful gift of eternal life. They are so arrogant that they think they will live after they die because some "man" in the sky loves them sooo much. They only worship God because of their own selfishness. If the church they go to didn't promise them a rose garden after death, they would be gone in a flash. How transparent can you be?

They like to tell atheists that no one can PROVE God and yet they are one-hundred percent sure that he exists. Not only that, but he is the God of the Bible and nothing else will do. They need to grow up but they choose to be like babies because they can't handle the fact that they won't exist after their own death. Poor pathetic people, who I should pity, I guess. But I don't because they are so arrogant and hateful that it is impossible.
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Re: A Christian's opinion about Atheists arguments against the existence of God. (Discussion thread)
Atheists don't believe in god because they are narcissists and they do not want to believe in god because they don't want to:

l. follow the rules - the ten commandments don't apply to them!

2. they think that no one should be "above" or "greater" then they are;

3. the belief in god means that they would be judged and found imperfect;

4. atheists can't deal with being less than perfect; (i.e. the concept of sin).

5. atheists can't deal with not being the center of attention.

They can't stand people who do believe in god, because others belief in god unnerves them; because it is disturbing that other people are "worshiping" something other than the narcissist.

That's why atheists are always attacking the believers! Just remember, they resent the rules, the worshipping of another; the fact that they have to acknowledge that they are capable of being sinful. They don't want anybody telling them what to do.

No one can prove or disprove the existence of god. This is a matter of faith and
is not something that can be determined by logic. At best, it is a 50-50 chance either way. However, people that are focused on "proving" god's nonexistence
are generally motivated by their own narcissistic needs.
 Quoting: genieinthebottle 23416741



Bloody Hell - this is the shit I'm talking about - no bloody need for it - so what if I don't have the same beliefs as you? Does that make me any less human? Does that make me any less decent? Does it make me a narcissist? No, no and no.
I don't find it 'disturbing' that you worship anything - thats your choice, but people ARE allowed to view the universe differently to you - thats what makes life so interesting - the differences not the simularities.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

~Epicurus 33 A.D
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