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Message Subject A Christian's opinion about Atheists arguments against the existence of God. (Discussion thread)
Poster Handle Halcyon Dayz, FCD
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 Quoting: Vinyard

1) Atheist: Who created God?

I hear this argument all the time! Atheist use this argument frequently to disprove the existence of God. I understand the argument, I do, but there are many flaws. First of all, the question "who created God?" ASSUMES that God is limited. It assumes that God has a beginning and will therefor have an end. But the God of the Bible doesn't have a limit, He doesn't have a beginning and an end. God was never created because He does not consist of the unaware created matter, but by the aware eternal spiritual energy. Besides, God can't have been created by someone else, because God by definition is FIRST, the reason of all cause! God was first. How on Earth's name can the first one be created? That's like asking "what letter comes before A?".


Your claim: Uncaused cause.
Your evidence: 0

THE CREATER COULD NOT HAVE BEEN CREATED BECAUSE IN THAT CASE HE WOULDN'T BE THE CREATOR!

God is outside of His Creation. [..]


Your claim: Something can exist outside the universe.
Your evidence: 0

The universe must have an original cause!

Begging the question.
The universe could also be eternal. You don't know.

2) Atheist: God does not exist!

What some atheist said has no relevance to you not providing evidence for your claims.

3) Atheist: The existence of God is illogical.

If you think that it's illogical for God to exist, did you ever stop to think the same thing about yourself? Do you think it's logial for you to exist?


Yes.
Since I exist my existence is logically possible.
It is YOU who claims my origin is of a supernatural nature, NOT I.

4) Atheist: Can God create a rock so heavy He cannot lift it Himself? And if he can't lift it, he's not almighty.

God is so almighty that He can expand [..]


Your claim: God can do paradoxial things.
Your evidence: 0
(More special pleading.)

5) Atheist: Prove God!

Your claim, your burden of proof.

Atheists always demand God to appear Himself in front of their eyes

Irrational.
An apparition that claimed to be god would not be proof of god.

6) Atheist: I only believe in what I can see and touch.

Strawman lie.

I believe in things I can not see or touch.
They happen to be things for which existence strong evidence exists.

7) God is spiritual and is proved with spiritual methods.

HOW did you test the validity of these methods?

8) Logical proof of God.

Perfection in the Creation:


Begging the question.
I will outright state that reality is NOT perfect.

The quest for the meaning of life:

Humans always needs something to live for because it's not enough to just exist.


How is that evidence for gods.
It only says something about human nature.

The inner void:

How is that evidence for gods.
It only says something about human nature.

The personal experience of God:


How is that evidence for gods.
It only says something about human nature.

9) Einstein and Strindberg. Wise men!

Argument from authority.
What is their evidence?
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