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I Think Therefore I Am? (On Philosophy)

 
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I Think Therefore I Am? (On Philosophy)
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Had this sent to me from a very good friend of mine. Well worth the read for anyone into philosophy :)

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"People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true"? Merely vague concepts ... their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs?"


"People cling to all they know and understand. But understanding and knowledge are ambiguous. Their reality could all be an illusion."
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everything starts with a thought
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everything starts with a thought
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Indubitably! :P
"People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true"? Merely vague concepts ... their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs?"


"People cling to all they know and understand. But understanding and knowledge are ambiguous. Their reality could all be an illusion."
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Thinking does not prove existence; this would be your first lesson on Philosophy, if you had to experience it-it was very perplexing.

One might be certain that his ability to think-to mentally distinguish his mind as a separate entity from his body-were to be exact proof of his exact place in space and time; but this is incorrect, we must first prove existence:
Something that is composed of matter, taking up space, and is aware of his place in his environment.
But
May we even prove that matter, itself exists on the same plane as our comprehensible perception?
Our perception of an object-let us say- a rock, is physically limited to our sensory receptions of the objects presence. We may not correctly state that we may prove matter to exist, merely because we perceive it's existence.

Ask yourself the meaning of "Know" in our society, and recognize the fundamental flaws in our society.
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I Think Therefore I Am?



NO.


I Am Therefore I Think!
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everything starts with a thought
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But only actions are real.
Do not take memories of what happened yesterday, into what might happen today.

When love is your greatest weakness, you will be the strongest person in the world.
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if i think so therefore i am (or vice versa) is the realisation of ones own 'exsistence' at that present moment in space and time..
lets say, if one does not think for one single second, one does not exsist for that that second?
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my being aware that my thoughts are not mine indicates that I am.

your thoughts are not yours.

good luck on your journey...and ...question your thoughts.
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everything starts with a thought
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But only actions are real.
 Quoting: Scuba7


Every action we take starts with a thought.
Wouldn't a thought also be real? in a sense,I think (pun? lol)it is but whether or not it's realistic or even true,may be another matter, (that of reasoning.)

What I wonder is that it seems weird that I can watch my thoughts! (be aware of them) Does that then put the 'I am' first?
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everything starts with a thought
 Quoting: plzxplain


But only actions are real.
 Quoting: Scuba7


Every action we take starts with a thought.
Wouldn't a thought also be real? in a sense,I think (pun? lol)it is but whether or not it's realistic or even true,may be another matter, (that of reasoning.)

What I wonder is that it seems weird that I can watch my thoughts! (be aware of them) Does that then put the 'I am' first?
 Quoting: plzxplain


no, that means your are watching the ego think and act!
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Are we about to travel to imagination land? C'mon, let's sing the song and go!
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everything starts with a thought
 Quoting: plzxplain


But only actions are real.
 Quoting: Scuba7


Every action we take starts with a thought.
Wouldn't a thought also be real? in a sense,I think (pun? lol)it is but whether or not it's realistic or even true,may be another matter, (that of reasoning.)

What I wonder is that it seems weird that I can watch my thoughts! (be aware of them) Does that then put the 'I am' first?
 Quoting: plzxplain


no, that means your are watching the ego think and act!
 Quoting: eclectic mind


Yes,you're right.I understand that. Thanks
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my being aware that my thoughts are not mine indicates that I am.

your thoughts are not yours.

good luck on your journey...and ...question your thoughts.
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question everything
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I Am therefore I Am
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But only actions are real.
 Quoting: Scuba7


Every action we take starts with a thought.
Wouldn't a thought also be real? in a sense,I think (pun? lol)it is but whether or not it's realistic or even true,may be another matter, (that of reasoning.)

What I wonder is that it seems weird that I can watch my thoughts! (be aware of them) Does that then put the 'I am' first?
 Quoting: plzxplain


no, that means your are watching the ego think and act!
 Quoting: eclectic mind


Yes,you're right.I understand that. Thanks
 Quoting: plzxplain


hf
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Every action we take starts with a thought.
Wouldn't a thought also be real? in a sense,I think (pun? lol)it is but whether or not it's realistic or even true,may be another matter, (that of reasoning.)

What I wonder is that it seems weird that I can watch my thoughts! (be aware of them) Does that then put the 'I am' first?
 Quoting: plzxplain


no, that means your are watching the ego think and act!
 Quoting: eclectic mind


Yes,you're right.I understand that. Thanks
 Quoting: plzxplain


hf
 Quoting: eclectic mind


hf
When the student is ready,a teacher appears :)
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no, that means your are watching the ego think and act!
 Quoting: eclectic mind


Yes,you're right.I understand that. Thanks
 Quoting: plzxplain


hf
 Quoting: eclectic mind


hf
When the student is ready,a teacher appears :)
 Quoting: plzxplain


the teacher appears within the student itself, when the student is ready.. the teacher is the student ..
others words can mere guide one in the right direction...

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Cogito, ergo rum! baby
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Every action we take starts with a thought.
Wouldn't a thought also be real?
 Quoting: plzxplain


A thought is real, as it is energy of some sort.

But in "reality", thoughts are only as real as the amount of energy you reinvest in them. TPTB want you to feel thoughts are important so that they can further control and manipulate you.

If you have thoughts of killing someone, should you be arrested even if you never follow through?
Do not take memories of what happened yesterday, into what might happen today.

When love is your greatest weakness, you will be the strongest person in the world.

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