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WHAT IS HAPPENING AT WHITE ISLAND VOLCANO??? New Zealand/Kermadec & South Pacific QUAKE/VOLCANO WATCH

 
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hmmm...

tarniatarn has been banned

she is the person we most need here

she is on geonets and GNS's case about mayor island, and has had another response from them..

i only have 40 points accumulated, not enough to get her even a silver glp membership

tania's input is needed here very much at the moment, given her great understanding of our graphs and what they are saying..

so if there are any glp angels reading this, who want to help new zealand, please consider upgrading taniatarn

thank you
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hmmm...

tarniatarn has been banned

she is the person we most need here

she is on geonets and GNS's case about mayor island, and has had another response from them..

i only have 40 points accumulated, not enough to get her even a silver glp membership

tania's input is needed here very much at the moment, given her great understanding of our graphs and what they are saying..

so if there are any glp angels reading this, who want to help new zealand, please consider upgrading taniatarn

thank you

 Quoting: Tauranga


Done T hf
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oh dettro!! thank you so much, i will let her know now by email

you are a legend!!! xxxxxx

hmmm...

tarniatarn has been banned

she is the person we most need here

she is on geonets and GNS's case about mayor island, and has had another response from them..

i only have 40 points accumulated, not enough to get her even a silver glp membership

tania's input is needed here very much at the moment, given her great understanding of our graphs and what they are saying..

so if there are any glp angels reading this, who want to help new zealand, please consider upgrading taniatarn

thank you

 Quoting: Tauranga


Done T hf
 Quoting: dettro99
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oh dettro!! thank you so much, i will let her know now by email

you are a legend!!! xxxxxx



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lol ...You're Welcome T, Anytime.
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oh dettro!! thank you so much, i will let her know now by email

you are a legend!!! xxxxxx



 Quoting: Tauranga



lol ...You're Welcome T, Anytime.
 Quoting: dettro99


thanks brother, you are a true friend

have you been reading tarn's posts?

she is on to it, isnt she..

i am so relieved she can get back here now and help

this mayor island thing is a real worry, and we cannot rely on the 'experts' to tell us anything
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oh dettro!! thank you so much, i will let her know now by email

you are a legend!!! xxxxxx



 Quoting: Tauranga



lol ...You're Welcome T, Anytime.
 Quoting: dettro99


thanks brother, you are a true friend

have you been reading tarn's posts?

she is on to it, isnt she..

i am so relieved she can get back here now and help

this mayor island thing is a real worry, and we cannot rely on the 'experts' to tell us anything
 Quoting: Tauranga


Thread: White Island New Zealand- On the verge of erupting??
this is tarn's thread about white island...
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oh dettro!! thank you so much, i will let her know now by email

you are a legend!!! xxxxxx



 Quoting: Tauranga



lol ...You're Welcome T, Anytime.
 Quoting: dettro99


thanks brother, you are a true friend

have you been reading tarn's posts?

she is on to it, isnt she..

i am so relieved she can get back here now and help

this mayor island thing is a real worry, and we cannot rely on the 'experts' to tell us anything
 Quoting: Tauranga


Thread: White Island New Zealand- On the verge of erupting??
this is tarn's thread about white island...
 Quoting: Tauranga



I've seen some of her post. I haven't seen her thread yet
I'll check it out ..

Peace..

dettro99
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...



lol ...You're Welcome T, Anytime.
 Quoting: dettro99


thanks brother, you are a true friend

have you been reading tarn's posts?

she is on to it, isnt she..

i am so relieved she can get back here now and help

this mayor island thing is a real worry, and we cannot rely on the 'experts' to tell us anything
 Quoting: Tauranga


Thread: White Island New Zealand- On the verge of erupting??
this is tarn's thread about white island...
 Quoting: Tauranga



I've seen some of her post. I haven't seen her thread yet
I'll check it out ..

Peace..

dettro99
 Quoting: dettro99


peace to you too, my friend xx
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Story: Sea floor geology
Part of page 1 – Zealandia: the New Zealand continent

Most continents, including Australia, have a relatively narrow rim of submerged continental crust. However, the New Zealand continent is unique: 93% of it is submerged, with huge areas of relatively shallow seas extending north-west as far as tropical New Caledonia, and south-east to the scattered subantarctic islands. Most of the continental area is made of true continental crust, but to the north-east (upper right) it is high-standing oceanic crust that has been raised by tectonic forces.

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image; Continental shelves (nz and oz)
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Story: Sea floor geology
Part of page 1 – Zealandia: the New Zealand continent

This map shows the plate boundary that runs through New Zealand. Off the North Island’s east coast, and north of it, oceanic crust of the Pacific Plate dives (subducts) beneath the continental crust of the Australian Plate, forming the Hikurangi Trough. At the other end of the country, off the south-west corner of the South Island, the situation is reversed. Oceanic crust of the Australian Plate subducts beneath the continental crust of the Pacific Plate.

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hmmm...

tarniatarn has been banned

she is the person we most need here

she is on geonets and GNS's case about mayor island, and has had another response from them..

i only have 40 points accumulated, not enough to get her even a silver glp membership

tania's input is needed here very much at the moment, given her great understanding of our graphs and what they are saying..

so if there are any glp angels reading this, who want to help new zealand, please consider upgrading taniatarn

thank you

 Quoting: Tauranga


Done T hf
 Quoting: dettro99


smile_kiss

Thank you so much!!!! You're wonderful for doing that. And thanks also for asking on my behalf T!

hf

Last Edited by taniatarn on 09/04/2012 05:47 AM
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Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.
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tarn,

do you think maybe white island erupted on the weekend, but went unnoticed due to cloud or something?

the graphs seem to be saying it did, and that it is now subsiding, in the same way as the first eruptions..

seismograph
[link to www.geonet.org.nz]

RSAM and SSAM (volcano) graphs
[link to www.geonet.org.nz]
as you pointed out on your thread, the decibel levels seem to have been altered about this time...
 Quoting: Tauranga


It certainly looked like there was a quick but explosive event going by the graph...but whatever it was definitely not on the camera!
Interested observer of all things interesting!

Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.
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tarn,

do you think maybe white island erupted on the weekend, but went unnoticed due to cloud or something?

the graphs seem to be saying it did, and that it is now subsiding, in the same way as the first eruptions..

seismograph
[link to www.geonet.org.nz]

RSAM and SSAM (volcano) graphs
[link to www.geonet.org.nz]
as you pointed out on your thread, the decibel levels seem to have been altered about this time...
 Quoting: Tauranga


It certainly looked like there was a quick but explosive event going by the graph...but whatever it was definitely not on the camera!
 Quoting: taniatarn


i didn't look at the camera images during that time, did you?
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hmmm...

tarniatarn has been banned

she is the person we most need here

she is on geonets and GNS's case about mayor island, and has had another response from them..

i only have 40 points accumulated, not enough to get her even a silver glp membership

tania's input is needed here very much at the moment, given her great understanding of our graphs and what they are saying..

so if there are any glp angels reading this, who want to help new zealand, please consider upgrading taniatarn

thank you

 Quoting: Tauranga


Thanks so much for making that request for me...I couldnt believe it to be banned again...third time already in less than a week. THis time they refused my request to be unbanned so I am stoked to be back!

Down to business..

I got a response back from Geonet....

- In their opinion it is wind. They sent copies of wind reports from Tauranga Airport showing how windy it was over that period.
- The seismometer is located at the summit under 30-40ft trees as this was the only place they were allowed to access. Consequently the drum picks up a lot of noise.
- If Mayor Island was waking up they would be well aware of it- they know their sites well.

Okay..so lets consider these points. I am the sort of person that seeks to find proof that the obvious is true rather than a volcano awakening. So I would love for these statements to make sense and be backed up by the readings.

BUT THEY AREN'T.

It has indeed been windy and still is now. This image shows the Seismic drum readings and corresponding wind strengths for the 3rd September when the drums first started showing the high readings.

[link to imageshack.us]

Note...where the red, green and yellow lines are on the seismic readings relate to the dots of the same colour on the wind graph.

also note....the yellow dot relates to when the wind has died off...BUT the corresponding seismic reading has stayed the same as when the wind was strong!!!! It did not drop off or change AT ALL.
Interested observer of all things interesting!

Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.
taniatarn

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hmmm...

tarniatarn has been banned

she is the person we most need here

she is on geonets and GNS's case about mayor island, and has had another response from them..

i only have 40 points accumulated, not enough to get her even a silver glp membership

tania's input is needed here very much at the moment, given her great understanding of our graphs and what they are saying..

so if there are any glp angels reading this, who want to help new zealand, please consider upgrading taniatarn

thank you

 Quoting: Tauranga


Thanks so much for making that request for me...I couldnt believe it to be banned again...third time already in less than a week. THis time they refused my request to be unbanned so I am stoked to be back!

Down to business..

I got a response back from Geonet....

- In their opinion it is wind. They sent copies of wind reports from Tauranga Airport showing how windy it was over that period.
- The seismometer is located at the summit under 30-40ft trees as this was the only place they were allowed to access. Consequently the drum picks up a lot of noise.
- If Mayor Island was waking up they would be well aware of it- they know their sites well.

Okay..so lets consider these points. I am the sort of person that seeks to find proof that the obvious is true rather than a volcano awakening. So I would love for these statements to make sense and be backed up by the readings.

BUT THEY AREN'T.

It has indeed been windy and still is now. This image shows the Seismic drum readings and corresponding wind strengths for the 3rd September when the drums first started showing the high readings.

[link to imageshack.us]

Note...where the red, green and yellow lines are on the seismic readings relate to the dots of the same colour on the wind graph.

also note....the yellow dot relates to when the wind has died off...BUT the corresponding seismic reading has stayed the same as when the wind was strong!!!! It did not drop off or change AT ALL.
 Quoting: taniatarn


Okay...so now here are the readings from today and corresponding weather graph. As per above, colours correspond to same time period on each image.

[link to img513.imageshack.us]

Note again...the red and the green dots relate to the lowest wind speed....BUT the seismic readings are still showing as really strong.

ANd then look at the yellow dot...the wind has picked up substantially...and yet the corresponding area on the readings shows a DECREASE in seismic noise!!!!

THe opposite of what should happen if it is due to wind noise!


Last Edited by taniatarn on 09/04/2012 04:40 AM
Interested observer of all things interesting!

Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.
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hmmm...

tarniatarn has been banned

she is the person we most need here

she is on geonets and GNS's case about mayor island, and has had another response from them..

i only have 40 points accumulated, not enough to get her even a silver glp membership

tania's input is needed here very much at the moment, given her great understanding of our graphs and what they are saying..

so if there are any glp angels reading this, who want to help new zealand, please consider upgrading taniatarn

thank you

 Quoting: Tauranga


Thanks so much for making that request for me...I couldnt believe it to be banned again...third time already in less than a week. THis time they refused my request to be unbanned so I am stoked to be back!

Down to business..

I got a response back from Geonet....

- In their opinion it is wind. They sent copies of wind reports from Tauranga Airport showing how windy it was over that period.
- The seismometer is located at the summit under 30-40ft trees as this was the only place they were allowed to access. Consequently the drum picks up a lot of noise.
- If Mayor Island was waking up they would be well aware of it- they know their sites well.

Okay..so lets consider these points. I am the sort of person that seeks to find proof that the obvious is true rather than a volcano awakening. So I would love for these statements to make sense and be backed up by the readings.

BUT THEY AREN'T.

It has indeed been windy and still is now. This image shows the Seismic drum readings and corresponding wind strengths for the 3rd September when the drums first started showing the high readings.

[link to imageshack.us]

Note...where the red, green and yellow lines are on the seismic readings relate to the dots of the same colour on the wind graph.

also note....the yellow dot relates to when the wind has died off...BUT the corresponding seismic reading has stayed the same as when the wind was strong!!!! It did not drop off or change AT ALL.
 Quoting: taniatarn


yeah ,the banning is a pain in the butt..

this is rather worrying, isn't it

hidinghiding
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And another image that shows how the readings don't seem to co-relate with wind strength at all

The areas with the red frame all relate to time periods where the wind was at 10 knots...look at how the strength of the reading from the seismic drum varies. Quite remarkably from one area compared to the other, even though the wind strength is the same for all of them!!


[link to img831.imageshack.us]

Last Edited by taniatarn on 09/04/2012 05:09 AM
Interested observer of all things interesting!

Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.
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hmmm...

tarniatarn has been banned

she is the person we most need here

she is on geonets and GNS's case about mayor island, and has had another response from them..

i only have 40 points accumulated, not enough to get her even a silver glp membership

tania's input is needed here very much at the moment, given her great understanding of our graphs and what they are saying..

so if there are any glp angels reading this, who want to help new zealand, please consider upgrading taniatarn

thank you

 Quoting: Tauranga


Thanks so much for making that request for me...I couldnt believe it to be banned again...third time already in less than a week. THis time they refused my request to be unbanned so I am stoked to be back!

Down to business..

I got a response back from Geonet....

- In their opinion it is wind. They sent copies of wind reports from Tauranga Airport showing how windy it was over that period.
- The seismometer is located at the summit under 30-40ft trees as this was the only place they were allowed to access. Consequently the drum picks up a lot of noise.
- If Mayor Island was waking up they would be well aware of it- they know their sites well.

Okay..so lets consider these points. I am the sort of person that seeks to find proof that the obvious is true rather than a volcano awakening. So I would love for these statements to make sense and be backed up by the readings.

BUT THEY AREN'T.

It has indeed been windy and still is now. This image shows the Seismic drum readings and corresponding wind strengths for the 3rd September when the drums first started showing the high readings.

[link to imageshack.us]

Note...where the red, green and yellow lines are on the seismic readings relate to the dots of the same colour on the wind graph.

also note....the yellow dot relates to when the wind has died off...BUT the corresponding seismic reading has stayed the same as when the wind was strong!!!! It did not drop off or change AT ALL.
 Quoting: taniatarn


Okay...so now here are the readings from today and corresponding weather graph. As per above, colours correspond to same time period on each image.

[link to img513.imageshack.us]

Note again...the red and the green dots relate to the lowest wind speed....BUT the seismic readings are still showing as really strong.

ANd then look at the yellow dot...the wind has picked up substantially...and yet the corresponding area on the readings shows a DECREASE in seismic noise!!!!

THe opposite of what should happen if it is due to wind noise!

 Quoting: taniatarn


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taniatarn

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And another image that shows how the readings don't seem to co-relate with wind strength at all

The areas with the red frame all relate to time periods where the wind was at 10 knots...look at how the strength of the reading from the seismic drum varies. Quite remarkably from one area compared to the other, even though the wind strength is the same for all of them!!


[link to img831.imageshack.us]
 Quoting: taniatarn


How can this be??? If what we are looking at is seismic noise caused by wind and trees then it should remain consistent for corresponding wind strength! But it doesn't ...in fact it seems to be going up and down quite unrelated to the wind. ANd it is behaving JUST like White Island Volcanic tremor...!
Interested observer of all things interesting!

Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.
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And another image that shows how the readings don't seem to co-relate with wind strength at all

The areas with the red frame all relate to time periods where the wind was at 10 knots...look at how the strength of the reading from the seismic drum varies. Quite remarkably from one area compared to the other, even though the wind strength is the same for all of them!!


[link to img831.imageshack.us]
 Quoting: taniatarn


How can this be??? If what we are looking at is seismic noise caused by wind and trees then it should remain consistent for corresponding wind strength! But it doesn't ...in fact it seems to be going up and down quite unrelated to the wind. ANd it is behaving JUST like White Island Volcanic tremor...!
 Quoting: taniatarn


I even considered a change of wind direction perhaps affecting the graphs..but this was also not the case. There is no explanation except something else not wind noiseis causing the readings.
Interested observer of all things interesting!

Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.
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hmmm...

tarniatarn has been banned

she is the person we most need here

she is on geonets and GNS's case about mayor island, and has had another response from them..

i only have 40 points accumulated, not enough to get her even a silver glp membership

tania's input is needed here very much at the moment, given her great understanding of our graphs and what they are saying..

so if there are any glp angels reading this, who want to help new zealand, please consider upgrading taniatarn

thank you

 Quoting: Tauranga


Thanks so much for making that request for me...I couldnt believe it to be banned again...third time already in less than a week. THis time they refused my request to be unbanned so I am stoked to be back!

Down to business..

I got a response back from Geonet....

- In their opinion it is wind. They sent copies of wind reports from Tauranga Airport showing how windy it was over that period.
- The seismometer is located at the summit under 30-40ft trees as this was the only place they were allowed to access. Consequently the drum picks up a lot of noise.
- If Mayor Island was waking up they would be well aware of it- they know their sites well.

Okay..so lets consider these points. I am the sort of person that seeks to find proof that the obvious is true rather than a volcano awakening. So I would love for these statements to make sense and be backed up by the readings.

BUT THEY AREN'T.

It has indeed been windy and still is now. This image shows the Seismic drum readings and corresponding wind strengths for the 3rd September when the drums first started showing the high readings.

[link to imageshack.us]

Note...where the red, green and yellow lines are on the seismic readings relate to the dots of the same colour on the wind graph.

also note....the yellow dot relates to when the wind has died off...BUT the corresponding seismic reading has stayed the same as when the wind was strong!!!! It did not drop off or change AT ALL.
 Quoting: taniatarn


yeah ,the banning is a pain in the butt..

this is rather worrying, isn't it

hidinghiding
 Quoting: Tauranga


I am concerned...I have done everything to try and prove it to be what they claim...but it simply isn't logical and the records do not back it up! They instead back up the exact same process that WHite has been experiencing...Volcanic Tremor. It is behaving and looking exactly like it.
Interested observer of all things interesting!

Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.
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hf Sorry my friend i couldn't come here yesterday to discuss the volcanos, because i had big fires near my house... but everything is ok now...
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hmmm...

tarniatarn has been banned

she is the person we most need here

she is on geonets and GNS's case about mayor island, and has had another response from them..

i only have 40 points accumulated, not enough to get her even a silver glp membership

tania's input is needed here very much at the moment, given her great understanding of our graphs and what they are saying..

so if there are any glp angels reading this, who want to help new zealand, please consider upgrading taniatarn

thank you

 Quoting: Tauranga


Thanks so much for making that request for me...I couldnt believe it to be banned again...third time already in less than a week. THis time they refused my request to be unbanned so I am stoked to be back!

Down to business..

I got a response back from Geonet....

- In their opinion it is wind. They sent copies of wind reports from Tauranga Airport showing how windy it was over that period.
- The seismometer is located at the summit under 30-40ft trees as this was the only place they were allowed to access. Consequently the drum picks up a lot of noise.
- If Mayor Island was waking up they would be well aware of it- they know their sites well.

Okay..so lets consider these points. I am the sort of person that seeks to find proof that the obvious is true rather than a volcano awakening. So I would love for these statements to make sense and be backed up by the readings.

BUT THEY AREN'T.

It has indeed been windy and still is now. This image shows the Seismic drum readings and corresponding wind strengths for the 3rd September when the drums first started showing the high readings.

[link to imageshack.us]

Note...where the red, green and yellow lines are on the seismic readings relate to the dots of the same colour on the wind graph.

also note....the yellow dot relates to when the wind has died off...BUT the corresponding seismic reading has stayed the same as when the wind was strong!!!! It did not drop off or change AT ALL.
 Quoting: taniatarn


yeah ,the banning is a pain in the butt..

this is rather worrying, isn't it

hidinghiding
 Quoting: Tauranga


I am concerned...I have done everything to try and prove it to be what they claim...but it simply isn't logical and the records do not back it up! They instead back up the exact same process that WHite has been experiencing...Volcanic Tremor. It is behaving and looking exactly like it.
 Quoting: taniatarn


it looks to be picking up again now
[link to www.geonet.org.nz]
[link to www.geonet.org.nz]

something else, tarn

if you look at the volcano graphs together here
[link to zl2tod.net]
you can see how lots of the volcano had big mountains build up on the RSAM graphs on the 3rd, but then that all suddenly dropped off again..

i wonder if it had something to do with the action at mayor that day??? because they frequently all behave in sympathy with each other...
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hf Sorry my friend i couldn't come here yesterday to discuss the volcanos, because i had big fires near my house... but everything is ok now...
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hiya luis xxx

oh dear, was it a forest fire?

i am glad it is ok now
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And another image that shows how the readings don't seem to co-relate with wind strength at all

The areas with the red frame all relate to time periods where the wind was at 10 knots...look at how the strength of the reading from the seismic drum varies. Quite remarkably from one area compared to the other, even though the wind strength is the same for all of them!!


[link to img831.imageshack.us]
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How can this be??? If what we are looking at is seismic noise caused by wind and trees then it should remain consistent for corresponding wind strength! But it doesn't ...in fact it seems to be going up and down quite unrelated to the wind. ANd it is behaving JUST like White Island Volcanic tremor...!
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I even considered a change of wind direction perhaps affecting the graphs..but this was also not the case. There is no explanation except something else not wind noiseis causing the readings.
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hidinghidinghidinghidinghidinghidinghiding
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And another image that shows how the readings don't seem to co-relate with wind strength at all

The areas with the red frame all relate to time periods where the wind was at 10 knots...look at how the strength of the reading from the seismic drum varies. Quite remarkably from one area compared to the other, even though the wind strength is the same for all of them!!


[link to img831.imageshack.us]
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How can this be??? If what we are looking at is seismic noise caused by wind and trees then it should remain consistent for corresponding wind strength! But it doesn't ...in fact it seems to be going up and down quite unrelated to the wind. ANd it is behaving JUST like White Island Volcanic tremor...!
 Quoting: taniatarn


EXACTLY TANIA 5*

clappa
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Thanks so much for making that request for me...I couldnt believe it to be banned again...third time already in less than a week. THis time they refused my request to be unbanned so I am stoked to be back!

Down to business..

I got a response back from Geonet....

- In their opinion it is wind. They sent copies of wind reports from Tauranga Airport showing how windy it was over that period.
- The seismometer is located at the summit under 30-40ft trees as this was the only place they were allowed to access. Consequently the drum picks up a lot of noise.
- If Mayor Island was waking up they would be well aware of it- they know their sites well.

Okay..so lets consider these points. I am the sort of person that seeks to find proof that the obvious is true rather than a volcano awakening. So I would love for these statements to make sense and be backed up by the readings.

BUT THEY AREN'T.

It has indeed been windy and still is now. This image shows the Seismic drum readings and corresponding wind strengths for the 3rd September when the drums first started showing the high readings.

[link to imageshack.us]

Note...where the red, green and yellow lines are on the seismic readings relate to the dots of the same colour on the wind graph.

also note....the yellow dot relates to when the wind has died off...BUT the corresponding seismic reading has stayed the same as when the wind was strong!!!! It did not drop off or change AT ALL.
 Quoting: taniatarn


yeah ,the banning is a pain in the butt..

this is rather worrying, isn't it

hidinghiding
 Quoting: Tauranga


I am concerned...I have done everything to try and prove it to be what they claim...but it simply isn't logical and the records do not back it up! They instead back up the exact same process that WHite has been experiencing...Volcanic Tremor. It is behaving and looking exactly like it.
 Quoting: taniatarn


it looks to be picking up again now
[link to www.geonet.org.nz]
[link to www.geonet.org.nz]

something else, tarn

if you look at the volcano graphs together here
[link to zl2tod.net]
you can see how lots of the volcano had big mountains build up on the RSAM graphs on the 3rd, but then that all suddenly dropped off again..

i wonder if it had something to do with the action at mayor that day??? because they frequently all behave in sympathy with each other...
 Quoting: Tauranga


Without a doubt I believe they are all linked..... I can't believe they claim them to be all unrelated..

Last Edited by taniatarn on 09/04/2012 05:42 AM
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hf Sorry my friend i couldn't come here yesterday to discuss the volcanos, because i had big fires near my house... but everything is ok now...
 Quoting: Luisport


hiya luis xxx

oh dear, was it a forest fire?

i am glad it is ok now
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Yes big forest fires here for some time now... just terrible!
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And another image that shows how the readings don't seem to co-relate with wind strength at all

The areas with the red frame all relate to time periods where the wind was at 10 knots...look at how the strength of the reading from the seismic drum varies. Quite remarkably from one area compared to the other, even though the wind strength is the same for all of them!!


[link to img831.imageshack.us]
 Quoting: taniatarn


How can this be??? If what we are looking at is seismic noise caused by wind and trees then it should remain consistent for corresponding wind strength! But it doesn't ...in fact it seems to be going up and down quite unrelated to the wind. ANd it is behaving JUST like White Island Volcanic tremor...!
 Quoting: taniatarn


EXACTLY TANIA 5*

clappa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23158929


I could go on and on showing examples...its unbelievable and i cant believe they dont see it....
Interested observer of all things interesting!

Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.
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hf Sorry my friend i couldn't come here yesterday to discuss the volcanos, because i had big fires near my house... but everything is ok now...
 Quoting: Luisport


hiya luis xxx

oh dear, was it a forest fire?

i am glad it is ok now
 Quoting: Tauranga


Yes big forest fires here for some time now... just terrible!
 Quoting: Luisport

one dead person yesterday and one fire fight helicopter have falled but the ocupants were injured

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