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WHAT IS HAPPENING AT WHITE ISLAND VOLCANO??? New Zealand/Kermadec & South Pacific QUAKE/VOLCANO WATCH

 
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Hey Tauranga, what do you reckon about the Nibiru sighting during the eclipse?
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hiya neighbour!

i have seen this one


is this the same vid you saw?

or are there others?


did you feel that latest quake near you a couple of days back?
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Hey Tauranga, what do you reckon about the Nibiru sighting during the eclipse?
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[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
[link to spaceweather.com]
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hello K!!!

it is really neat to see you, we really miss your regular input, brother xxx
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I ran across some interesting volcano activity. Most interesting is the Newberry Volcano. It is the largest volcano in the Cascades, covering an area the size of Rhode Island. Its last eruption was 1300 years ago and the last major eruption 75,000 years ago. Now fast forward to today; over the last 40 years Newberry volcano has averaged 0 earthquakes. In the last month there have been 24 earthquakes! Mount Hood and Rainer have both show increased activity in the same mountain chain. Iceland, Alaska and Russia all show increased activity as well. Most recent change further north was the Cleveland Volcano. On November 10, 2012 there was an ash cloud and they changed the alert level from ADVISORY to WATCH with the following warning, “Sudden explosions of blocks and ash remain possible with little or no warning. The previous confirmed explosion occurred on November 10. Ash clouds, if produced, could exceed 20,000 feet above sea level.”

NEWBERRY VOLCANO USGS INFO:
[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov]

RECENT EARTHQUAKES NEAR VOLCANOES:
[link to www.pnsn.org]

ALASKA VOLCANO OBSERVATORY DAILY UPDATES:
[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov]

USGS ELEVATED VOLCANIC ACTIVITY AND INFORMATION RELEASE:
[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov]

KAMCHATKA VOLCANIC ACTIVITY:
[link to www.kscnet.ru]

EDIT: fixed links
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good info!
Peace
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heyo bro

its all happening, isnt it...
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New Zealand volcano on verge of eruption: volcanologists

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November 16, 2012 – NEW ZELAND - New Zealand volcanologists warned Friday that the central North Island mountain of Ruapehu was showing signs of an imminent eruption. The government’s Institute of Geological and Nuclear Sciences (GNS Science) said the temperature beneath Ruapehu’s Crater Lake was about 800 degrees centigrade, but the lake itself was only 20 degrees centigrade, which suggested a vent was partly blocked. That could lead to a pressure build-up beneath the Crater Lake, indicating a heightened likelihood of eruptions over the coming weeks to months. “We think the pressure beneath Ruapehu Crater Lake has increased and this makes an eruption more likely over the next weeks to months,” GNS Science duty volcanologist Steve Sherburn said in a statement. A build-up of pressure beneath the Crater Lake was thought to have caused the last eruption in 2007 and a smaller eruption in 2006. Since late October, small earthquakes had been occurring about 5 km beneath the summit area of Ruapehu, a popular winter skiing ground, but these might not be directly related to the high temperatures beneath the Crater lake as they were much deeper. As a result, GNS Science had increased the aviation color code warning for aircraft from green to yellow, which reflected a change from a normal non-eruptive state to showing elevated signs of unrest. However, the volcanic alert level remained at 1 on the scale of 0 to 5, indicating initial signs of possible volcano unrest. In August, two other New Zealand volcanoes erupted, but no damage or casualties were reported. Mount Tongariro, also in the central North Island, erupted on Aug. 6, throwing out small amounts of ash in its first eruption since 1897. Two days later, White Island, a marine volcano about 50 km off the east of the North Island, erupted, sending up an ash plume 200 to 300 meters in the air, in its first eruption since 2001. –Xinhuanet
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i think its really fucking weird that when you do a glp search of ruapehu, this thread doesnt come up in the search!!!!!

WHY?????


Idol1

we have a major volcanic event about to go down, FFS

the exact same thing happened when tongariro erupted

siren2siren2siren2siren2
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3.4 18:32:41 Sat 17 Nov 2012 Depth: 265.6 km

4.7 18:21:25 Sat 17 Nov 2012 Depth: 8.8 km

3.2 18:18:17 Sat 17 Nov 2012 Depth: 56.3 km

3.9 18:17:13 Sat 17 Nov 2012 Depth: 269.4 km

3.2 18:17:07 Sat 17 Nov 2012 Depth: 295.6 km

3.5 15:59:23 Sat 17 Nov 2012 Depth: 153.1 km

3.7 15:55:39 Sat 17 Nov 2012 Depth: 351.9 km

3.1 12:56:52 Sat 17 Nov 2012 Depth: 248.3 km

3.3 09:20:19 Sat 17 Nov 2012 Depth: 18.4 km

3.3 09:18:54 Sat 17 Nov 2012 Depth: 12.0 km

3.0 09:05:30 Sat 17 Nov 2012 Depth: 160.6 km

3.3 09:04:54 Sat 17 Nov 2012 Depth: 196.3 km

4.2 04:51:43 Fri 16 Nov 2012 Depth: 12.5 km

4.0 04:51:20 Fri 16 Nov 2012 Depth: 33.0 km

4.0 04:51:20 Fri 16 Nov 2012 Depth: 33.0 km

3.4 10:46:43 Thu 15 Nov 2012 Depth: 13.6 km

4.5 05:21:04 Thu 15 Nov 2012 Depth: 11.5 km

3.6 04:40:35 Thu 15 Nov 2012 Depth: 24.0 km

3.2 22:24:34 Wed 14 Nov 2012 Depth: 25.2 km

3.1 21:49:47 Wed 14 Nov 2012 Depth: 8.0 km

3.0 14:23:41 Wed 14 Nov 2012 Depth: 5.0 km

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[link to quakemap.co.nz]

nz quakes are really picking up atm..
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5.0 2012/11/17 05:29:45 -20.252 -178.442 583.8 FIJI REGION

6.1 2012/11/17 05:12:56 -18.311 -172.374 9.8 TONGA REGION

4.6 2012/11/17 03:11:29 -37.002 -95.943 10.0 SOUTHEAST OF EASTER ISLAND

5.7 2012/11/17 02:51:24 -15.026 167.426 128.4 VANUATU

4.4 2012/11/16 00:07:35 -25.201 179.771 502.8 SOUTH OF THE FIJI ISLANDS

4.8 2012/11/15 22:19:09 -20.518 -175.116 35.2 TONGA

4.7 2012/11/15 21:55:15 -16.845 -175.060 260.3 TONGA

4.8 2012/11/15 15:47:08 -25.903 178.294 635.1 SOUTH OF THE FIJI ISLANDS

5.2 2012/11/14 18:22:31 -14.450 173.718 599.7 FIJI REGION

4.5 2012/11/14 11:40:59 -20.919 -173.876 46.0 TONGA

4.8 2012/11/14 09:15:51 -30.071 -174.541 32.5 KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION

5.1 2012/11/14 07:41:58 -20.666 -174.046 39.6 TONGA

5.4 2012/11/13 23:23:49 -21.042 -175.934 27.1 TONGA

4.8 2012/11/13 12:13:18 -16.672 -175.747 176.5 TONGA

5.0 2012/11/12 14:58:14 -17.539 -173.250 35.0 TONGA

5.3 2012/11/12 14:47:43 -24.186 178.919 568.4 SOUTH OF THE FIJI ISLANDS

5.0 2012/11/12 10:32:28 -24.020 -179.902 540.6 SOUTH OF THE FIJI ISLANDS

4.8 2012/11/11 05:01:16 -17.255 -177.766 578.4 FIJI REGION

4.5 2012/11/11 04:11:33 -17.706 -178.392 459.0 FIJI REGION

4.7 2012/11/10 23:45:49 -18.674 170.179 166.0 VANUATU

4.6 2012/11/10 09:10:26 -15.345 -173.080 25.9 TONGA

10 degree map of the south pacific
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list of quakes on this map
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M 6.1 EARTHQUAKE - TONGA REGION 11/17/12

Published on Nov 16, 2012 by EQReporter
Magnitude 6.1
Date-Time Saturday, November 17, 2012 at 05:12:56 UTC Friday, November 16, 2012 at 06:12:56 PM at epicenter Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 18.311°S, 172.374°W
Depth 9.8 km (6.1 miles)
Region TONGA REGION
Distances 174 km (108 miles) ENE of Neiafu, Tonga
430 km (267 miles) NE of Nuku`alofa, Tonga
473 km (293 miles) SSW of Tafuna, American Samoa
480 km (298 miles) SSW of Pago Pago, American Samoa

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11/17/2012 -- 6.1M earthquake in Tonga -- EIGHT 6.0M+ in the past 7 days (week)

Published on Nov 16, 2012 by DutchsinseReloaded
NEW Dutchsinse youtube channel here! : [link to www.youtube.com]

A noticeable unrest taking shape over the past 14 days --- past 7 days having EIGHT 6.0 magnitude and greater earthquakes.

Here is my most recent full length earthquake overview:

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Massive Solar Eruption, Birds Falling Out Of Sky, Volcanoes Going Off Again, War (17th Nov 2012)

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there looks to have been a large volcanic swarm at tongariro/ngauruhoe

[link to www.geonet.org.nz]

and, as always, this is mirrored at mayor island

[link to www.geonet.org.nz]
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Volcanologists warned of impending Mt. Ruapehu eruption, New Zealand

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beautiful image of ruapehu

Volcanologists have warned about impending eruption from one of the most active volcanoes of New zealand, Mt. Ruapehu in central North Island. As a result, New Zealand authorities have instructed climbers to stay away from the peak of Mt. Ruapehu. As per news reports, area within 2km of the center of Crater Lake has been declared summit hazard zone and should be avoided. According to Steve Sherburn, GNS Science duty volcanologist,

“We are monitoring Ruapehu closely, but it often does not give any immediate warning that it is going to erupt. We think that the temperature a few hundred metres beneath Crater Lake is about 800C, but the lake itself is only about 20C. This suggests the vent is partly blocked which may be leading to a pressure build-up beneath Crater Lake. A sudden release of the pressure may lead to an eruption.”

As a precautionary measure, aviation alert level around the central North Island has been raised to yellow – suggesting unrest above background levels. Volcanic alert level remains unchanged at “signs of unrest”.

Mt. Ruapehu is a complex stratovolcano that has formed during at least 4 cone-building episodes dating back to about 200,000 years ago. It is believed that several subplinian eruptions took place at Ruapehu between about 22,600 and 10,000 years ago, though pyroclastic flows have not been frequent at Ruapehu. Historically, Crater Lake has been the only opening at the broad summit of the crater.

Sources: Yahoo news Global volcanism program

Featured images: Global volcanism program

Massive Ruapehu volcano, seen here from the south, forms an elongated massif composed of at least 4 overlapping volcanic edifices. Photo by Bruce Houghton, 1980 (Wairakei Research Center)
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M here T. In Napier at the moment. When Ruapehu goes this time it is going big time and with a loss of life very likely.
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Mt Ruapehu could blow at any time - experts

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Scientists fear build up of pressure beneath Crater Lake. Matt Bowen and Michelle Cooke report.

Climbers and trampers have been told to avoid Mt Ruapehu's summit zone after scientists warned the mountain could erupt without warning.

On the mountain though, it's business as usual.

Pressure was building up under the Crater Lake on Mt Ruapehu, increasing the likelihood of an eruption in the coming weeks, GNS Science said yesterday.

Measurements taken on the volcano over the past few weeks indicated eruptions were more likely "within weeks, not months".

A sudden release of pressure built up under the lake may lead to an eruption.

The Conservation Department issued a warning for trampers and climbers to avoid the summit hazard zone, a two kilometre area from the centre of the Crater Lake.

"We recommend that guiding companies do not take people into the zone. Any other climbers, trampers and walkers should not enter the zone," DOC Ruapehu area manager Jonathon Maxwell said. But Whakapapa ski field summer operations manager Callum Learmont said alert level fluctuations were simply part of life on an active volcano.

Their guided tours to view the crater lake don't kick in until December 15 but he said at the current alert level those would still go ahead.

"At this stage the alert level is one and we're pretty comfortable with that but obviously we monitor it and take it seriously," he said.

"It's something you take into account. You plan for it and it's part of your operation. It's something you have to work your way through."

If the situation worsened they'd take advice from GNS Science, who they're in close contact with, but at the moment things are running as per usual.

DOC warned that people in the area should be aware of an increased possibility of lahars on the tracks and especially when approaching the Whangaehu, Wahianoa, Mangaturuturu and Whakapapaiti streams.

"They should be conscious of potential lahar noise from upstream, and make their way across these streams quickly," DOC warned.

Mt Ruapehu, which last erupted in 2007, usually did not give any immediate warning of an eruption, GNS Science vulcanologist Steven Sherburn said.

Pressure build-up was thought to have caused the 2007 eruption and a smaller eruption in 2006.

The aviation colour code has increased from green to yellow as a warning for those flying over the region, but the volcanic alert level remained at level 1. Yellow indicates signs of elevated unrest, while level 1 indicates signs of volcanic unrest

GNS Science believed the temperature a few hundred metres beneath the crater was about 800 degrees Celsius but the lake itself was only 20degC.

"This suggests the vent is partly blocked which may be leading to a pressure build-up beneath Crater Lake."

Small earthquakes have been occurring about 5km beneath the summit of Ruapehu since late October, but it was not known whether they were related to the increased temperature below the crater, GNS vulcanologist Brad Scott said.

"We perceive them to be completely unrelated at this stage," he said.

However, the quakes had the potential to build up processes and push magma further to the surface, which would further increase the likelihood of an eruption, he said.

GNS constantly monitors Ruapehu and had discovered over the last few weeks that the chemistry and gases within the Crater Lake were changing, Mr Scott said.

Ruapehu experienced a small scale eruption in 2007 and a series of large scale eruptions in 1995 and 1996.

All facilities, roads, walking tracks, alternative routes lower on Mt Ruapehu, and other activities on the mountain were still operating.
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Ruapehu 'more likely' to erupt

[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]

Prime Minister John Key says he was made aware a few days ago that there was increased activity on Mt Ruapehu.

GNS Science revealed today the likelihood of the volcano erupting over the next few weeks had increased.

Duty volcanologist Steven Sherburn said changes in measurements over the last few weeks indicated eruptions are "more likely over the next weeks to months''.

"We're monitoring Ruapehu closely, but it often doesn't give any immediate warning that it's going to erupt,'' Dr Sherburn said.

"We think that the temperature a few hundred metres beneath Crater Lake is about 800 degrees Celsius, but the lake itself is only about 20 degrees Celsius.

"This suggests the vent is partly blocked, which may be leading to a pressure buildup beneath Crater Lake. A sudden release of the pressure may lead to an eruption.''


As a result, the Aviation Colour Code has increased from Green to Yellow. Code Yellow indicates a volcano is experiencing signs of elevated unrest above known background levels.

Mr Key said he was advised a few days ago there was some movement and an increase in temperature on the mountain.

"I haven't had any advice today on that issue but they did alert me a couple of days ago it might be an issue,'' he said.


GNS said small earthquakes have been occurring about 5km beneath the summit area of Ruapehu since late October, but these may not be directly related to the high temperatures beneath Crater Lake because the heat is much deeper.

A build-up of pressure beneath Crater Lake is thought to have caused the 2007 eruption and a smaller eruption in 2006.

Mt Tongariro burst into activity in August this year, when the Te Maari Crater erupted.

The eruption caused a landslide which flowed 2km down the mountain and blocked three streams, creating a dam in one of them.

The dam broke last month, sending a lahar down the mountain.
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Really what Doc should be doing is stopping access to all those tracks around and anywhere near the mount. Making sure that NO one is in the trampers huts. Clear them all out.
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Trampers warned to stay clear of Mt Ruapehu summit

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amazing image of ruapehu crater lake

Trampers and climbers are being warned to stay away from Mt Ruapehu's Summit Hazard Zone following warnings the volcano could be on the verge of eruption.

Scientists monitoring the volcano say pressure is building under the volcano's crater lake.

The Department of Conservation (DoC) said people should not enter anywhere that falls inside 2 kilometers of the Crater Lake.

Climbers and trampers should refer to a Summit Hazard Zone map or GPS to determine when they are approaching the zone, DoC said.

"We recommend that guiding companies do not take people into the zone. Any other climbers, trampers and walkers should not enter the zone," said DoC Ruapehu Area Manager Jonathan Maxwell.


All other roads, walking tracks, and activities within the Tongariro National Park are open.

DoC will update the situation when more information is available.

The Aviation Colour Code increased yesterday from green to yellow, indicating elevated unrest above normal levels in the volcano.

Small earthquakes have been occurring about 5 kilometers beneath the summit of Ruapehu since late October, GNS said.
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They should close the National Park totally.. not just partially. This is going to be a big blow
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M here T. In Napier at the moment. When Ruapehu goes this time it is going big time and with a loss of life very likely.
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hiya sis

yeah, you are right!!!

did you see the article i just posted about john key being informed about this, never seen that happen before, have you?

when are you returning M?

i am so glad you have checked in xx
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No, I have never seen that happen before either. There is far more to this than is being made public.

Bro was in major accident, he is ok.. But I am just down here helping out. Only here for a week.. but if Ruapehu goes in the meantime I may be stuck here for a while.
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Really what Doc should be doing is stopping access to all those tracks around and anywhere near the mount. Making sure that NO one is in the trampers huts. Clear them all out.
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They should close the National Park totally.. not just partially. This is going to be a big blow
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hello AC

you are absolutely right!!

especially after they stuffed up SO BADLY in this respect when tongariro blew

it was so obvious to a lot of us it was going to blow when it did

it is just extremely lucky there was only one group up the mountain that night

if that had happened at a different time of year there would have been lives lost then
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I have been very busy lately, so not here much at all. :)
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Really what Doc should be doing is stopping access to all those tracks around and anywhere near the mount. Making sure that NO one is in the trampers huts. Clear them all out.
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They should close the National Park totally.. not just partially. This is going to be a big blow
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hello AC

you are absolutely right!!

especially after they stuffed up SO BADLY in this respect when tongariro blew

it was so obvious to a lot of us it was going to blow when it did

it is just extremely lucky there was only one group up the mountain that night

if that had happened at a different time of year there would have been lives lost then
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That was me T. :D Yes you are correct
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No, I have never seen that happen before either. There is far more to this than is being made public.

Bro was in major accident, he is ok.. But I am just down here helping out. Only here for a week.. but if Ruapehu goes in the meantime I may be stuck here for a while.
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sorry, M, i just realised the other posts were you too

oh man, your bro was in a major accident, i am so glad to hear he is ok

big hugs sister xxx

did that happen at napier?
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Really what Doc should be doing is stopping access to all those tracks around and anywhere near the mount. Making sure that NO one is in the trampers huts. Clear them all out.
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They should close the National Park totally.. not just partially. This is going to be a big blow
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hello AC

you are absolutely right!!

especially after they stuffed up SO BADLY in this respect when tongariro blew

it was so obvious to a lot of us it was going to blow when it did

it is just extremely lucky there was only one group up the mountain that night

if that had happened at a different time of year there would have been lives lost then
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That was me T. :D Yes you are correct
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yeah, duh, coz i didnt recognise your user number xx
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No, I have never seen that happen before either. There is far more to this than is being made public.

Bro was in major accident, he is ok.. But I am just down here helping out. Only here for a week.. but if Ruapehu goes in the meantime I may be stuck here for a while.
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i sure hope you dont get stuck down there, but at least you are with your loved ones at this time
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11/17/2012 03:27 AM
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Re: WHAT IS HAPPENING AT WHITE ISLAND VOLCANO??? New Zealand/Kermadec & South Pacific QUAKE/VOLCANO WATCH
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Anonymous Coward
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11/17/2012 03:28 AM
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Re: WHAT IS HAPPENING AT WHITE ISLAND VOLCANO??? New Zealand/Kermadec & South Pacific QUAKE/VOLCANO WATCH
No, I have never seen that happen before either. There is far more to this than is being made public.

Bro was in major accident, he is ok.. But I am just down here helping out. Only here for a week.. but if Ruapehu goes in the meantime I may be stuck here for a while.
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sorry, M, i just realised the other posts were you too

oh man, your bro was in a major accident, i am so glad to hear he is ok

big hugs sister xxx

did that happen at napier?
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Just out of Napier trail biking.. came off and totally shattered his knee and tore his shoulder - sore, but he will be fine. Fortunately his partner who is a gp was right there. I actually originally came down cause his partners dad is having brain surgery in Auckland on Monday and I was going to house sit for them. So they are both totally stressed at the moment.

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