GREECE - NO AGREEMENT TO FORM A NEW GOVERNMENT!!! SAMARAS SAYS UNABLE TO FORM GOVERNMENT, HANDING MANDATE BACK TO PRESIDENT!!!

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Dont misunderstand where my comments come from... however the situation in Greece from where we see it is not good. I dont think he has stated anything that quite frankly should not be done. Do they believe in Hitler or what the Nationalist ideal comes from?

Not good at all indeed. Trust me, i know it. But this specific party have the same believes as nazism. Greece above all, but in the way of "Deutschland über alles", not the patriotic way, most of their members are skinheads and we know where skinheads come from, they have a swastika like emblem but in a more Greek way of showing it and they salute like nazis.
They might speak a patriotic speach, but this is what Hitler did with Germans also. Patriotic speaches are good, if they come from patriots. "They" want to dictate "their" patriotism to all of us.

Are their any Patriot/Liberty type party's in Greece?

Whilst i havent been to Greece in a while alot of people that have been over in recent months have told me its full of spicks and specks.

If this sounds racist darn who cares... they dont assimilate into the country they move to. You move to a country respect it. I dont move to saudi arabia cause i know i wont assimilate... they should return the favour.

Its called a shower f'n use it.

At least they want foreign scum off your streets and out of your country. They want the bankers off your backs. They are better than the rest of the traitor politicans you elected during the last decades who got you in this mess in the first place.

Things might go fast now for Greece. Next loan given to them is end of may; after, the next one, is end of june.

Right now it stands that the majority does not want loans, nor bailouts and for sure no reforms.

That means they exit the euro zone, and that means that in the chaos afterwards the military takes control of the country.

That would pobably be the best thing for them right now.

Within the EU or without, the way ahead for Greece will be with blood and tears.

I cant even find then on the map

i think canada swallowed em up

is there country the one with the polka dot flag?

i love polka

JUBILEE MOTHERFUCKERS. Suck it bankers.

Whoo-hooo!
No government = more extend and pretend!!! Kick the can one more day!!!

Crisis adverted today, maybe even tomorrow.
BUY BUY BUY!!!

aside from an intrinsic dislike of military takeovers because they're well, military takeovers, i'm thinking this would be a bad thing because if there's one group of people in the world who know little to nothing about making a budget and sticking to it without money magically appearing when they want it, it's NATO military officers.

Yanks... after 400 years still can't spell... hillbilly rednecks maybe you need a new language as English is obviously not you're stong point (oh and BTW yes America still is a English provence as you still use the Crown system

Wait till the CDO's and CDS's kick in on masse if Euro crashes hard and we will see how your 14 trillion will be repaid... Oh maybe you need to start learning mandarin as you're chinese overlords will come for ya.

lmfao

I cannt agree more. As I have state before the possibility of a civil war within 2012 is very likely. But this will triger events that will lead the rest of South Europe in unrest. Turkey is also waiting for something like this. Now add the situation in Syria which is also a neighbor with Turkey and you'll see that thinks are not good at all. This senario exist more than a year. It started rumored when Papandreou changed the divisions of the country and gave more powers to the local leaders. From one side I am happy that we didn't vote for the bailout partys as it was thought on the other side I am scared of what the next day will be even in this case.

More likely you'll end up with anarchy and then military rule and finally back to demotardy.

Greece has hydrocarbon reserves that it can use as leverage here:

[link to www.defencegreece.com]

Is this being talked about at all? or is all this confusion being thrown at the greek people a guise to take it resources for nothing?

Normally I wouldn't be too concerned about what Greece is doing.
However
With the state of ALL of the worlds economy's on rocky ground and France turning "far left" and Greece moving "far right" and Spain, Italy and Portugal near collapse and Germany calling the shots and Russia moving back to it's USSR way of doing things...

I'm beginning to see some similarities between now and the last 2 world wars.
People taking sides that are diametrically opposed. The USA trying to stay neutral...

Deja vu ????

GREECE: This Is What Comes Next



Greece's government is still up in the air in the aftermath of yesterday's elections.

The conservative party New Democracy announced earlier today that it will not be able to form a coalition government that would allow Greece to form a new government.

This means that only a handful of options are now available for the struggling country:


A successful last-ditch effort to form a government after a meeting with all party leaders.


Snap elections, as early as June 10 or 17.


PASOK forms a narrow coalition with a left-wing leader and support from both New Democracy and the Democratic Left. This would give them a narrow majority of 168 seats.

Each of the three leading parties gets three days to form a government. As New Democracy leader Antonis Samaras found such a prospect under his leadership hopeless, the buck now moves on to Syriza chief Alexis Tsipras. His far-left party has rejected the terms of the bailout, and called his party's views "diametrically opposed" to those of New Democracy.

Various experts, however, have told us that the likelihood of a Syriza-sponsored government is slim. Wolfgang Piccoli of the Eurasia Group wrote in a note today, "Any attempt by Syriza to create an alternative anti-bailout government composed by leftist parties is set to face a quick dead-end. Vast ideological differences, conflicting personalities and the mere parliamentary arithmetic make the creation of such a government impossible."

The buck would then pass to PASOK. A Greek source tells us that PASOK might be able to push through a coalition with a left-wing leader and support from New Democracy, however others doubt that support for such a coalition by a third party—like the Democratic Left, which rejected ND this morning—would be forthcoming.

If all three parties fail, Greek President Karolos Papoulias will call leaders of all seated parties together in a last-ditch effort to avoid new elections.

A second round of elections after failure to form a government would not be unprecedented, as such an event happened back in 1989. However, it is unclear that a new round of elections would actually change the voter distribution and empower the leading PASOK and New Democracy parties, which have the best chance numerically of coming together to form a coaltion.

The final scenario—new elections—would likely be the most devastating for markets, given that persistent insecurity about the likelihood of a Greek exit from the euro could ravage markets through June.

By the end of that month, the Greek government will have to decide on a new round of future spending cuts in 2013 and 2014, equivalent to 7 percent of GDP. The troika (EU leaders, the European Central Bank, and the IMF) are likely to withhold funding earmarked for Greece as part of the country's bailout programs until these measures are passed.

According to a government official cited by Dow Jones, Greece has enough money to last unti late July, though finances "will be tight." Since Greek leaders of all parties appear to now agree that Greece will need to renegotiate the terms of its bailout, this likely spells heightened uncertainty in the markets as we head into the summer months.


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The Swastika, which is Hindu but hijacked by the Germans. Lol. Nothing is local today bud. Future governments, including so-called nationalists will hammer home that point.

Of course and I have thought about it. But if this is so why then do the same things in Spain, Portugal, Italy, Ireland (the rest of the PIGGS). I fear the mikebo2 is right. The last three and a half years have many similarities with the 30s. This is, I fear, a part of a well played plan to lead the world to a war. This has began with arabic spring (which actually is not over yet) and is going to contaminate the south Europe countrys. Hope this is all consiparacy theories and nothing more but the signs are not good at all.

I didn't even notice the typos. I was too busy WTFing that 400 year figure.

Sunday's eurozone elections end with a couple neo-Nazis in Greek parliament.

First the scoreboard:

Dow: 13,008, -29.7, -0.2%
S&P 500: 1,369, +0.5, +0.0%
NASDAQ: 2,957, +1.4, +0.0%

And now the top stories:
As expected, France voted socialist party leader Francois Hollande to the presidency, replacing incumbent Nicolas Sarkozy. Hollande is opposed to the eurozone's existing fiscal compact. Rather, he favors more ECB involvement and higher domestic taxes.
The Greek elections, on the other hand, were much more interesting. Incumbent parties PASOK and New Democracy won only around 35 percent of voter support. Seats were split among five other parties including the KKE (communists) and Golden Dawn (neo-Nazis). That's right, neo-Nazis. And their symbol resembles the swastika. This Is What You Need To Know About The Crisis In Greece >
Analysts were quick to sound off on all of the elections. Deutsche Bank's George Saravelos called it a "significant market-negative surprise." With anti-austerity parties in parliament, current planned cuts are less likely to go through, which puts future bailout funds at risk. Goldman's Themistoklis Fiotakis shared Saravelos' sentiment. Citi economists have boosted the odds of a "Grexit," or Greek exit from the eurozone, to a range of 50 to 75 percent. Here's What Comes Next For Greece >
Surprisingly, markets were showed remarkable resilience. Barclays' Barry Knapp attributed the optimism to upcoming U.S. presidential election. "Elections breed optimism, and the idea that we might get a new CEO of the country really could trigger a fair bit of resiliency in the markets and perhaps even a rally as we get closer to the elections," Knapp told Bloomberg. Bank of America strategist Savita Subramanian actually boosted her year-end target on the S&P 500 to 1,450. David Bianco Presents: 20 Guiding Principles For Investing In The Stock Market >
The markets ended the day on a strong economic note. According to the Federal Reserve, consumer credit expanded by $21.3 billion in March, crushing expectations of $9.8 billion.


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If new elections in June, the fascist New Dawn will triumph similar to Nazis in 1930 German elections. New Dawn smell power and will march in rallies with strong representation of their committed militants (black shirts) to convince desperate Greeks. Human nature of weak minded will take the chance with them and they will enter Parliament as either largest or second largest party....

I fear you are right...

it would be better for the neo-nazis for there to be a government for a year or two of utter collapse and despair. a month isn't enough time to go from 7 percent to forming a government

Of course voting for the same "democratic" traitors that brought our countries in the mess they are in now would be strong and wise? Not. Hail Greece! Hail Golden Dawn!

I agree. That is the worst case scenario for Greece.
Nothing is written in stone yet though.

Yes, apparantly you did find resources, I don't know how much though.

If it is on greek territory, it is yours, and I would vote for defending your rights on these resources.

You know, my Greek friend, it is a very difficult time, but you have friends in europe, the money which flows is not for the people, true, but it is to keep your financial infrastructure in place.

If that is gone, others are going to replace it, AND THEN YOU ARE OWNED.

And there is a difference between having foreign financial infrastructue in your country or your own ones which gets bailout money.

Nazis formed govt with 24% of the vote. Authoritarian message will sound increasingly appealing. Expect New Dawn's numbers to double or triple in June. Then double and triple again as minority governments rise and fall in a fractured parliament. There is economic chaos as of yesterday, and now there is political chaos. The stage is set for social chaos as fascist and anti fascists demonstrate against pro bailout minority weak governments. The fascist and anti fascist will violently battle each other. Fascists will eventually get elites support since they prefer it to the alternative. This is history...