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Ron Paul Could Still Win Enough Delegates To Deny Mitt Romney The Republican Nomination
Despite what you may have heard from the mainstream media, Mitt Romney does not have the Republican nomination locked up. In fact, he is rapidly losing delegates that almost everyone assumed that he already had in the bag. To understand why this is happening, you have to understand the delegate selection process. Each state has different rules for selecting delegates to the Republican national convention, and in many states the "voting" done by the public does not determine the allocation of delegates to particular candidates at all. And the truth is that delegates are the only thing that really matters in this race. In state after state, the Ron Paul campaign is focusing on the delegate selection process with laser-like precision, and it is paying off big time. At this point, there is still a legitimate chance that Ron Paul will be able to win enough delegates to deny Mitt Romney the nomination on the first ballot at the Republican national convention in Tampa. If Romney does not have the 1,144 delegates that he needs on the first ballot, then it becomes a brokered convention and anything becomes possible at that point.

Sadly, most Americans have no idea how this process really works.

For example, originally we were all told that Mitt Romney won Iowa.

Then, later on we were told that a mistake was made and that Rick Santorum actually won Iowa.

Well, it turns out that Ron Paul actually won 20 out of the 28 delegates in Iowa. That is because the process of actually selecting the delegates occurred long after the voting by the public was over.

So what happens if the Ron Paul campaign is able to produce similar results in state after state?

The Ron Paul campaign is very organized, very motivated and they understand the rules of the game. As a recent Politico article detailed, there are huge amounts of unbound delegates out there that are still up for grabs....

There are roughly 30 states and territories where delegates aren’t bound to a particular candidate. The majority of the other states, according to a number of party officials, call for delegates to be bound for a first round of balloting but not the ensuing rounds.

“The dirty little secret is: At the end of the day, these guys and gals can vote any way they want,” said a Republican who has attended national conventions for decades. “Each state has different (laws) on pledged delegates.”

In many states, the "official" results of voting done by the public mean next to nothing. The talking heads on television often tell us how many delegates are "projected" to go to a particular candidate, but as we have seen in Iowa and in so many other states, those "projections" are basically meaningless.

More at [link to endoftheamericandream.com]
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Re: Ron Paul Could Still Win Enough Delegates To Deny Mitt Romney The Republican Nomination
Despite what you may have heard from the mainstream media, Mitt Romney does not have the Republican nomination locked up. In fact, he is rapidly losing delegates that almost everyone assumed that he already had in the bag. To understand why this is happening, you have to understand the delegate selection process. Each state has different rules for selecting delegates to the Republican national convention, and in many states the "voting" done by the public does not determine the allocation of delegates to particular candidates at all. And the truth is that delegates are the only thing that really matters in this race. In state after state, the Ron Paul campaign is focusing on the delegate selection process with laser-like precision, and it is paying off big time. At this point, there is still a legitimate chance that Ron Paul will be able to win enough delegates to deny Mitt Romney the nomination on the first ballot at the Republican national convention in Tampa. If Romney does not have the 1,144 delegates that he needs on the first ballot, then it becomes a brokered convention and anything becomes possible at that point.

Sadly, most Americans have no idea how this process really works.

For example, originally we were all told that Mitt Romney won Iowa.

Then, later on we were told that a mistake was made and that Rick Santorum actually won Iowa.

Well, it turns out that Ron Paul actually won 20 out of the 28 delegates in Iowa. That is because the process of actually selecting the delegates occurred long after the voting by the public was over.

So what happens if the Ron Paul campaign is able to produce similar results in state after state?

The Ron Paul campaign is very organized, very motivated and they understand the rules of the game. As a recent Politico article detailed, there are huge amounts of unbound delegates out there that are still up for grabs....

There are roughly 30 states and territories where delegates aren’t bound to a particular candidate. The majority of the other states, according to a number of party officials, call for delegates to be bound for a first round of balloting but not the ensuing rounds.

“The dirty little secret is: At the end of the day, these guys and gals can vote any way they want,” said a Republican who has attended national conventions for decades. “Each state has different (laws) on pledged delegates.”

In many states, the "official" results of voting done by the public mean next to nothing. The talking heads on television often tell us how many delegates are "projected" to go to a particular candidate, but as we have seen in Iowa and in so many other states, those "projections" are basically meaningless.

More at [link to endoftheamericandream.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


No he can not, im sorry. It disheartens me to see all this, this late in the game. Ron Paul is not going to be nominated. Our goal should be to keep the momentum of the movement going after this election is over. Its not about the man, its about the movement. Rand can carry our flag forward, but not if people get discouraged when Romney is nominated. To keep people from being discouraged, they need to understand the cold hard truth. That we are fighting for a moral victory and it looks like we shall have it. We are winning key battles, but this is a war. We cant let this election be the end of this movement. To win the war, we must continue the fight past this summer.
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Re: Ron Paul Could Still Win Enough Delegates To Deny Mitt Romney The Republican Nomination
Despite what you may have heard from the mainstream media, Mitt Romney does not have the Republican nomination locked up. In fact, he is rapidly losing delegates that almost everyone assumed that he already had in the bag. To understand why this is happening, you have to understand the delegate selection process. Each state has different rules for selecting delegates to the Republican national convention, and in many states the "voting" done by the public does not determine the allocation of delegates to particular candidates at all. And the truth is that delegates are the only thing that really matters in this race. In state after state, the Ron Paul campaign is focusing on the delegate selection process with laser-like precision, and it is paying off big time. At this point, there is still a legitimate chance that Ron Paul will be able to win enough delegates to deny Mitt Romney the nomination on the first ballot at the Republican national convention in Tampa. If Romney does not have the 1,144 delegates that he needs on the first ballot, then it becomes a brokered convention and anything becomes possible at that point.

Sadly, most Americans have no idea how this process really works.

For example, originally we were all told that Mitt Romney won Iowa.

Then, later on we were told that a mistake was made and that Rick Santorum actually won Iowa.

Well, it turns out that Ron Paul actually won 20 out of the 28 delegates in Iowa. That is because the process of actually selecting the delegates occurred long after the voting by the public was over.

So what happens if the Ron Paul campaign is able to produce similar results in state after state?

The Ron Paul campaign is very organized, very motivated and they understand the rules of the game. As a recent Politico article detailed, there are huge amounts of unbound delegates out there that are still up for grabs....

There are roughly 30 states and territories where delegates aren’t bound to a particular candidate. The majority of the other states, according to a number of party officials, call for delegates to be bound for a first round of balloting but not the ensuing rounds.

“The dirty little secret is: At the end of the day, these guys and gals can vote any way they want,” said a Republican who has attended national conventions for decades. “Each state has different (laws) on pledged delegates.”

In many states, the "official" results of voting done by the public mean next to nothing. The talking heads on television often tell us how many delegates are "projected" to go to a particular candidate, but as we have seen in Iowa and in so many other states, those "projections" are basically meaningless.

More at [link to endoftheamericandream.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


...also not all states are caucus states, and each state has its own rules for how the process works. Many are legally bound by the popular vote result. Our mantra should be, keep fighting through Tampa, Rand Paul 2016.
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Re: Ron Paul Could Still Win Enough Delegates To Deny Mitt Romney The Republican Nomination
Delegates To Deny Mitt Romney The Republican Nomination
Sunday, May 6, 2012
By Paul Martin

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Despite what you may have heard from the mainstream media, Mitt Romney does not have the Republican nomination locked up. In fact, he is rapidly losing delegates that almost everyone assumed that he already had in the bag. To understand why this is happening, you have to understand the delegate selection process. Each state has different rules for selecting delegates to the Republican national convention, and in many states the “voting” done by the public does not determine the allocation of delegates to particular candidates at all. And the truth is that delegates are the only thing that really matters in this race. In state after state, the Ron Paul campaign is focusing on the delegate selection process with laser-like precision, and it is paying off big time. At this point, there is still a legitimate chance that Ron Paul will be able to win enough delegates to deny Mitt Romney the nomination on the first ballot at the Republican national convention in Tampa. If Romney does not have the 1,144 delegates that he needs on the first ballot, then it becomes a brokered convention and anything becomes possible at that point.

Sadly, most Americans have no idea how this process really works.

For example, originally we were all told that Mitt Romney won Iowa.

Then, later on we were told that a mistake was made and that Rick Santorum actually won Iowa.

Well, it turns out that Ron Paul actually won 20 out of the 28 delegates in Iowa. That is because the process of actually selecting the delegates occurred long after the voting by the public was over.

So what happens if the Ron Paul campaign is able to produce similar results in state after state?

The Ron Paul campaign is very organized, very motivated and they understand the rules of the game. As a recent Politico article detailed, there are huge amounts of unbound delegates out there that are still up for grabs….

There are roughly 30 states and territories where delegates aren’t bound to a particular candidate. The majority of the other states, according to a number of party officials, call for delegates to be bound for a first round of balloting but not the ensuing rounds.

“The dirty little secret is: At the end of the day, these guys and gals can vote any way they want,” said a Republican who has attended national conventions for decades. “Each state has different (laws) on pledged delegates.”
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Re: Ron Paul Could Still Win Enough Delegates To Deny Mitt Romney The Republican Nomination
Despite what you may have heard from the mainstream media, Mitt Romney does not have the Republican nomination locked up. In fact, he is rapidly losing delegates that almost everyone assumed that he already had in the bag. To understand why this is happening, you have to understand the delegate selection process. Each state has different rules for selecting delegates to the Republican national convention, and in many states the "voting" done by the public does not determine the allocation of delegates to particular candidates at all. And the truth is that delegates are the only thing that really matters in this race. In state after state, the Ron Paul campaign is focusing on the delegate selection process with laser-like precision, and it is paying off big time. At this point, there is still a legitimate chance that Ron Paul will be able to win enough delegates to deny Mitt Romney the nomination on the first ballot at the Republican national convention in Tampa. If Romney does not have the 1,144 delegates that he needs on the first ballot, then it becomes a brokered convention and anything becomes possible at that point.

Sadly, most Americans have no idea how this process really works.

For example, originally we were all told that Mitt Romney won Iowa.

Then, later on we were told that a mistake was made and that Rick Santorum actually won Iowa.

Well, it turns out that Ron Paul actually won 20 out of the 28 delegates in Iowa. That is because the process of actually selecting the delegates occurred long after the voting by the public was over.

So what happens if the Ron Paul campaign is able to produce similar results in state after state?

The Ron Paul campaign is very organized, very motivated and they understand the rules of the game. As a recent Politico article detailed, there are huge amounts of unbound delegates out there that are still up for grabs....

There are roughly 30 states and territories where delegates aren’t bound to a particular candidate. The majority of the other states, according to a number of party officials, call for delegates to be bound for a first round of balloting but not the ensuing rounds.

“The dirty little secret is: At the end of the day, these guys and gals can vote any way they want,” said a Republican who has attended national conventions for decades. “Each state has different (laws) on pledged delegates.”

In many states, the "official" results of voting done by the public mean next to nothing. The talking heads on television often tell us how many delegates are "projected" to go to a particular candidate, but as we have seen in Iowa and in so many other states, those "projections" are basically meaningless.

More at [link to endoftheamericandream.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


No he can not, im sorry. It disheartens me to see all this, this late in the game. Ron Paul is not going to be nominated. Our goal should be to keep the momentum of the movement going after this election is over. Its not about the man, its about the movement. Rand can carry our flag forward, but not if people get discouraged when Romney is nominated. To keep people from being discouraged, they need to understand the cold hard truth. That we are fighting for a moral victory and it looks like we shall have it. We are winning key battles, but this is a war. We cant let this election be the end of this movement. To win the war, we must continue the fight past this summer.
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We'll see...you're right though, it's not about the man but the movement, but if we can get the man IN, all the better. What worries me is what Rombama will do if this doesn't happen.
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I'm still full of faith when it comes to Ron Paul. He is going to win!!!! Wait and see.
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I'm still full of faith when it comes to Ron Paul. He is going to win!!!! Wait and see.
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^^^THIS^^^
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Hey Op, I've got a question about the delegate process. I don't think I'm understanding this correctly.

If 1144 is the number of delegates you need to secure the nomination, and there are only two candidates in the race, then how can you possibly force a brokered convention? If Romney doesn't get 1144 in the first round of voting, then wouldn't that mean that Paul got at least 1144 and therefore the nomination, outright?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this stuff...
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He won't win the republican nomination, if you've noticed how he's been drummed out the last three elections. However he has in my opinion a larger base of votes in the hands of non-republican voters. He has mentioned not running for independant before. In my view I think he should run as a third party, seeing as he has a chance to garner more votes this way. If anything else he can screw this election just by staying in and making a point. Wait till after the nomination to see what will really happen.

This is all based on the fact we make it that far.
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Re: Ron Paul Could Still Win Enough Delegates To Deny Mitt Romney The Republican Nomination
Despite what you may have heard from the mainstream media, Mitt Romney does not have the Republican nomination locked up. In fact, he is rapidly losing delegates that almost everyone assumed that he already had in the bag. To understand why this is happening, you have to understand the delegate selection process. Each state has different rules for selecting delegates to the Republican national convention, and in many states the "voting" done by the public does not determine the allocation of delegates to particular candidates at all. And the truth is that delegates are the only thing that really matters in this race. In state after state, the Ron Paul campaign is focusing on the delegate selection process with laser-like precision, and it is paying off big time. At this point, there is still a legitimate chance that Ron Paul will be able to win enough delegates to deny Mitt Romney the nomination on the first ballot at the Republican national convention in Tampa. If Romney does not have the 1,144 delegates that he needs on the first ballot, then it becomes a brokered convention and anything becomes possible at that point.

Sadly, most Americans have no idea how this process really works.

For example, originally we were all told that Mitt Romney won Iowa.

Then, later on we were told that a mistake was made and that Rick Santorum actually won Iowa.

Well, it turns out that Ron Paul actually won 20 out of the 28 delegates in Iowa. That is because the process of actually selecting the delegates occurred long after the voting by the public was over.

So what happens if the Ron Paul campaign is able to produce similar results in state after state?

The Ron Paul campaign is very organized, very motivated and they understand the rules of the game. As a recent Politico article detailed, there are huge amounts of unbound delegates out there that are still up for grabs....

There are roughly 30 states and territories where delegates aren’t bound to a particular candidate. The majority of the other states, according to a number of party officials, call for delegates to be bound for a first round of balloting but not the ensuing rounds.

“The dirty little secret is: At the end of the day, these guys and gals can vote any way they want,” said a Republican who has attended national conventions for decades. “Each state has different (laws) on pledged delegates.”

In many states, the "official" results of voting done by the public mean next to nothing. The talking heads on television often tell us how many delegates are "projected" to go to a particular candidate, but as we have seen in Iowa and in so many other states, those "projections" are basically meaningless.

More at [link to endoftheamericandream.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


I think it would be fun if he forced a brokered national convention, then concede to Romney at the convention and declare a third party run.
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Re: Ron Paul Could Still Win Enough Delegates To Deny Mitt Romney The Republican Nomination
Hey Op, I've got a question about the delegate process. I don't think I'm understanding this correctly.

If 1144 is the number of delegates you need to secure the nomination, and there are only two candidates in the race, then how can you possibly force a brokered convention? If Romney doesn't get 1144 in the first round of voting, then wouldn't that mean that Paul got at least 1144 and therefore the nomination, outright?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this stuff...
 Quoting: Wylfdane


I don't know either, hopefully someone could explain what that means exactly.

I am noticing Drudge Report doesn't have one word about any of the things that happened over the weekend with Ron Paul...I wonder why??? lol
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Re: Ron Paul Could Still Win Enough Delegates To Deny Mitt Romney The Republican Nomination
Despite what you may have heard from the mainstream media, Mitt Romney does not have the Republican nomination locked up. In fact, he is rapidly losing delegates that almost everyone assumed that he already had in the bag. To understand why this is happening, you have to understand the delegate selection process. Each state has different rules for selecting delegates to the Republican national convention, and in many states the "voting" done by the public does not determine the allocation of delegates to particular candidates at all. And the truth is that delegates are the only thing that really matters in this race. In state after state, the Ron Paul campaign is focusing on the delegate selection process with laser-like precision, and it is paying off big time. At this point, there is still a legitimate chance that Ron Paul will be able to win enough delegates to deny Mitt Romney the nomination on the first ballot at the Republican national convention in Tampa. If Romney does not have the 1,144 delegates that he needs on the first ballot, then it becomes a brokered convention and anything becomes possible at that point.

Sadly, most Americans have no idea how this process really works.

For example, originally we were all told that Mitt Romney won Iowa.

Then, later on we were told that a mistake was made and that Rick Santorum actually won Iowa.

Well, it turns out that Ron Paul actually won 20 out of the 28 delegates in Iowa. That is because the process of actually selecting the delegates occurred long after the voting by the public was over.

So what happens if the Ron Paul campaign is able to produce similar results in state after state?

The Ron Paul campaign is very organized, very motivated and they understand the rules of the game. As a recent Politico article detailed, there are huge amounts of unbound delegates out there that are still up for grabs....

There are roughly 30 states and territories where delegates aren’t bound to a particular candidate. The majority of the other states, according to a number of party officials, call for delegates to be bound for a first round of balloting but not the ensuing rounds.

“The dirty little secret is: At the end of the day, these guys and gals can vote any way they want,” said a Republican who has attended national conventions for decades. “Each state has different (laws) on pledged delegates.”

In many states, the "official" results of voting done by the public mean next to nothing. The talking heads on television often tell us how many delegates are "projected" to go to a particular candidate, but as we have seen in Iowa and in so many other states, those "projections" are basically meaningless.

More at [link to endoftheamericandream.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


I think it would be fun if he forced a brokered national convention, then concede to Romney at the convention and declare a third party run.
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You know, I would really like that...he hasn't ruled out it out so you never know.
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Those who don't think Paul can do it are mindless spoon fed drones of humans. go back and turn your CNN on to get your information. The smart people use the internet instead of a TV and do research into what they're interested in. Mitt is actually losing delegates and Paul is gaining. He's got almost 200 now. Romney is lowered to just above 700. Keep in mind that he's actually losing delegates due to the states processes of sending people to the RNC. Romney is even spreading fake flyers to try to screw the Paul campaign over, but unsuccessful.
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Hey Op, I've got a question about the delegate process. I don't think I'm understanding this correctly.

If 1144 is the number of delegates you need to secure the nomination, and there are only two candidates in the race, then how can you possibly force a brokered convention? If Romney doesn't get 1144 in the first round of voting, then wouldn't that mean that Paul got at least 1144 and therefore the nomination, outright?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this stuff...
 Quoting: Wylfdane


I don't know either, hopefully someone could explain what that means exactly.

I am noticing Drudge Report doesn't have one word about any of the things that happened over the weekend with Ron Paul...I wonder why??? lol
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Because it's a non event that's why.
The real "dirty little secret" at the end of the day?...the Republican party can chuck Ron Paul out on his ass any time they feel like it. It's already over for him, but at that point it's also over for Rand who still has a career and Ron isn't going to let that happen.

Ron is playing a game of "Notice me notice me!" right now so he can hopefully get a decent speaking spot at the convention. That will be to do a grand finale speech and secure speaking tour engagements and hopefully cement Rand into some sort spotlight. If you think it's about anything else, you are kidding yourselves...I know that is more or less standard operating procedure among Paultards, but that's the way it is.

When he drops out don't act too disapointed or play like you feel used, because you all already know it deep down anyway. He has used you all since the beginning because even if YOU didn't know he never stood a chance of winning the nom?...you had better believe HE has. You don't have a 30 year career in politics WITHOUT knowing such simple things. He just found a new method to milk you and the campaign process a little longer this round, actually YOU ALL have found it for him, it's pretty slick really.
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Does anyone know where we can see the total number of delegates each person has right now with a running total as they gain new ones?
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Hey Op, I've got a question about the delegate process. I don't think I'm understanding this correctly.

If 1144 is the number of delegates you need to secure the nomination, and there are only two candidates in the race, then how can you possibly force a brokered convention? If Romney doesn't get 1144 in the first round of voting, then wouldn't that mean that Paul got at least 1144 and therefore the nomination, outright?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this stuff...
 Quoting: Wylfdane


I don't know either, hopefully someone could explain what that means exactly.

I am noticing Drudge Report doesn't have one word about any of the things that happened over the weekend with Ron Paul...I wonder why??? lol
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Because it's a non event that's why.
The real "dirty little secret" at the end of the day?...the Republican party can chuck Ron Paul out on his ass any time they feel like it. It's already over for him, but at that point it's also over for Rand who still has a career and Ron isn't going to let that happen.

Ron is playing a game of "Notice me notice me!" right now so he can hopefully get a decent speaking spot at the convention. That will be to do a grand finale speech and secure speaking tour engagements and hopefully cement Rand into some sort spotlight. If you think it's about anything else, you are kidding yourselves...I know that is more or less standard operating procedure among Paultards, but that's the way it is.

When he drops out don't act too disapointed or play like you feel used, because you all already know it deep down anyway. He has used you all since the beginning because even if YOU didn't know he never stood a chance of winning the nom?...you had better believe HE has. You don't have a 30 year career in politics WITHOUT knowing such simple things. He just found a new method to milk you and the campaign process a little longer this round, actually YOU ALL have found it for him, it's pretty slick really.
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SHR, I've seen in several threads that you've agreed to change your name on here if Dr. Paul wins the nomination...

Is that true? If it is, I commend you for standing behind your beliefs.
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Hey Op, I've got a question about the delegate process. I don't think I'm understanding this correctly.

If 1144 is the number of delegates you need to secure the nomination, and there are only two candidates in the race, then how can you possibly force a brokered convention? If Romney doesn't get 1144 in the first round of voting, then wouldn't that mean that Paul got at least 1144 and therefore the nomination, outright?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this stuff...
 Quoting: Wylfdane


I don't know either, hopefully someone could explain what that means exactly.

I am noticing Drudge Report doesn't have one word about any of the things that happened over the weekend with Ron Paul...I wonder why??? lol
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Because it's a non event that's why.
The real "dirty little secret" at the end of the day?...the Republican party can chuck Ron Paul out on his ass any time they feel like it. It's already over for him, but at that point it's also over for Rand who still has a career and Ron isn't going to let that happen.

Ron is playing a game of "Notice me notice me!" right now so he can hopefully get a decent speaking spot at the convention. That will be to do a grand finale speech and secure speaking tour engagements and hopefully cement Rand into some sort spotlight. If you think it's about anything else, you are kidding yourselves...I know that is more or less standard operating procedure among Paultards, but that's the way it is.

When he drops out don't act too disapointed or play like you feel used, because you all already know it deep down anyway. He has used you all since the beginning because even if YOU didn't know he never stood a chance of winning the nom?...you had better believe HE has. You don't have a 30 year career in politics WITHOUT knowing such simple things. He just found a new method to milk you and the campaign process a little longer this round, actually YOU ALL have found it for him, it's pretty slick really.
 Quoting: SHR


SHR, I've seen in several threads that you've agreed to change your name on here if Dr. Paul wins the nomination...

Is that true? If it is, I commend you for standing behind your beliefs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055574


Actually I offered a bet with one of the more well known Paul Supporter members here that if RP did win?...I'd change my name for some period of time, say a month, to "Ron Paul Rocks"..or whatever they wanted that was similar. If he didn't?...then they change their name to "Gullible" or something like that, same time period.

They declined...so I guess they weren't committed to "stand behind their beliefs".

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Yea...right lol. Another puppet gonna be in the white house. Obama 2012 will bring us to the collapse!
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I don't know either, hopefully someone could explain what that means exactly.

I am noticing Drudge Report doesn't have one word about any of the things that happened over the weekend with Ron Paul...I wonder why??? lol
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Because it's a non event that's why.
The real "dirty little secret" at the end of the day?...the Republican party can chuck Ron Paul out on his ass any time they feel like it. It's already over for him, but at that point it's also over for Rand who still has a career and Ron isn't going to let that happen.

Ron is playing a game of "Notice me notice me!" right now so he can hopefully get a decent speaking spot at the convention. That will be to do a grand finale speech and secure speaking tour engagements and hopefully cement Rand into some sort spotlight. If you think it's about anything else, you are kidding yourselves...I know that is more or less standard operating procedure among Paultards, but that's the way it is.

When he drops out don't act too disapointed or play like you feel used, because you all already know it deep down anyway. He has used you all since the beginning because even if YOU didn't know he never stood a chance of winning the nom?...you had better believe HE has. You don't have a 30 year career in politics WITHOUT knowing such simple things. He just found a new method to milk you and the campaign process a little longer this round, actually YOU ALL have found it for him, it's pretty slick really.
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SHR, I've seen in several threads that you've agreed to change your name on here if Dr. Paul wins the nomination...

Is that true? If it is, I commend you for standing behind your beliefs.
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Actually I offered a bet with one of the more well known Paul Supporter members here that if RP did win?...I'd change my name for some period of time, say a month, to "Ron Paul Rocks"..or whatever they wanted that was similar. If he didn't?...then they change their name to "Gullible" or something like that, same time period.

They declined...so I guess they weren't committed to "stand behind their beliefs".
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If you're absolutely positive (as it sounds you are) that Dr. Paul will not win the nomination, why not just stand behind your beliefs without reciprocation from any Ron Paul supporters? Do you feel confident enough about your predictions to do that? After all, if he has no chance at all, what do you actually have to lose?
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I disagree thinking that Ron Paul is just playing a 'notice me' game. IF it comes to a second vote, which is becoming more likely with Paul winning delegates week after week and Mitt being at a stand still, it will be interesting to see the outcome. To say anyone has won at this point is false. I say we use our brains, keep track of things, and wait it out. The real answer will come at the RNC. Until then we can only keep track of real delegates going to the convention, as they're the only ones that matter.
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Another in the bag; Ron Paul wins Maine, page 1


I'm at the convention now, 15 delegates for Ron Paul, 6 more to elect and Romney's dickheads are trying to stuff the ballot with duplicate names to Ron Paul delegates, but that's pretty bland compared to all they did trying to rig the election yesterday...will tell more when I'm at a computer if people want to hear about it.
Edit: have a bit of free time so here's what went on yesterday:
the convention got delayed 2.5 hours off the bat because the Romney people came late
after the first vote elected the Ron Paul supporting candidate with about a10% lead, Romney's people started trying to stall and call in their friends, the chair was a Ron Paul supporter and won by 4 votes some hours later (after Romney's people tried and failed to steal some 1000 unclaimed badges for delegates (mostly Ron Paul supporters) who didn't show
everything was met with a recount, often several times
Romney people would take turns one at a time at the Ron Paul booth trying to pick fights with a group of Ron Paul supporters in an effort to get them kicked out, all attempts failed through the course of the day
the Romney supporters printed duplicate stickers to the Ron Paul ones for national delegates (same fonts, format, etc) with their nominees' names and tried to slip them into Ron Paul supporter's convention bags
in an attempt to stall and call in no-show delegates, Romney's people nominated no less than 200 random people as national delegates, then each went to stage one by one to withdraw their nomination
after two Ron Paul heavy counties voted and went home, Romney's people called a revote under some obscure rule and attempted to disqualify the two counties that had left (not sure if they were ever counted or not)
next they tried to disqualify all ballots and postpone voting a day, while a few of the Romney-campaigners tried to incite riots and got booed out of the convention center
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Another in the bag; Ron Paul wins Maine, page 1


I'm at the convention now, 15 delegates for Ron Paul, 6 more to elect and Romney's dickheads are trying to stuff the ballot with duplicate names to Ron Paul delegates, but that's pretty bland compared to all they did trying to rig the election yesterday...will tell more when I'm at a computer if people want to hear about it.
Edit: have a bit of free time so here's what went on yesterday:
the convention got delayed 2.5 hours off the bat because the Romney people came late
after the first vote elected the Ron Paul supporting candidate with about a10% lead, Romney's people started trying to stall and call in their friends, the chair was a Ron Paul supporter and won by 4 votes some hours later (after Romney's people tried and failed to steal some 1000 unclaimed badges for delegates (mostly Ron Paul supporters) who didn't show
everything was met with a recount, often several times
Romney people would take turns one at a time at the Ron Paul booth trying to pick fights with a group of Ron Paul supporters in an effort to get them kicked out, all attempts failed through the course of the day
the Romney supporters printed duplicate stickers to the Ron Paul ones for national delegates (same fonts, format, etc) with their nominees' names and tried to slip them into Ron Paul supporter's convention bags
in an attempt to stall and call in no-show delegates, Romney's people nominated no less than 200 random people as national delegates, then each went to stage one by one to withdraw their nomination
after two Ron Paul heavy counties voted and went home, Romney's people called a revote under some obscure rule and attempted to disqualify the two counties that had left (not sure if they were ever counted or not)
next they tried to disqualify all ballots and postpone voting a day, while a few of the Romney-campaigners tried to incite riots and got booed out of the convention center
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OBAMNEY FAIL AGAIN LOL!! THOSE TRAITOROUS SCUM , LIKE SHR DONT BELONG IN OUR REPUBLIC! GET THE FLOCK OUT!!
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Anyone who is willing to put some time into researching will figure out Romney just buys people to try everything possible, even cheat, to get him in the presidency. What a fail example of a person to represent us as a nation. I hope Paul comes out on top, but it's a steep incline to get past. Still hopeful though
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Because it's a non event that's why.
The real "dirty little secret" at the end of the day?...the Republican party can chuck Ron Paul out on his ass any time they feel like it. It's already over for him, but at that point it's also over for Rand who still has a career and Ron isn't going to let that happen.

Ron is playing a game of "Notice me notice me!" right now so he can hopefully get a decent speaking spot at the convention. That will be to do a grand finale speech and secure speaking tour engagements and hopefully cement Rand into some sort spotlight. If you think it's about anything else, you are kidding yourselves...I know that is more or less standard operating procedure among Paultards, but that's the way it is.

When he drops out don't act too disapointed or play like you feel used, because you all already know it deep down anyway. He has used you all since the beginning because even if YOU didn't know he never stood a chance of winning the nom?...you had better believe HE has. You don't have a 30 year career in politics WITHOUT knowing such simple things. He just found a new method to milk you and the campaign process a little longer this round, actually YOU ALL have found it for him, it's pretty slick really.
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SHR, I've seen in several threads that you've agreed to change your name on here if Dr. Paul wins the nomination...

Is that true? If it is, I commend you for standing behind your beliefs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055574


Actually I offered a bet with one of the more well known Paul Supporter members here that if RP did win?...I'd change my name for some period of time, say a month, to "Ron Paul Rocks"..or whatever they wanted that was similar. If he didn't?...then they change their name to "Gullible" or something like that, same time period.

They declined...so I guess they weren't committed to "stand behind their beliefs".
 Quoting: SHR


If you're absolutely positive (as it sounds you are) that Dr. Paul will not win the nomination, why not just stand behind your beliefs without reciprocation from any Ron Paul supporters? Do you feel confident enough about your predictions to do that? After all, if he has no chance at all, what do you actually have to lose?
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I just may, it'd be fun anyway...but what do I have to win?...nothing...also I don't really like to give away anything on a bet when the other person wusses out or welches on it...I play tournement poker...and that'd be bad luck juju....lol! and no matter what anyone says?...a little luck don't hurt!
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Hey Op, I've got a question about the delegate process. I don't think I'm understanding this correctly.

If 1144 is the number of delegates you need to secure the nomination, and there are only two candidates in the race, then how can you possibly force a brokered convention? If Romney doesn't get 1144 in the first round of voting, then wouldn't that mean that Paul got at least 1144 and therefore the nomination, outright?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this stuff...
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I don't know either, hopefully someone could explain what that means exactly.

I am noticing Drudge Report doesn't have one word about any of the things that happened over the weekend with Ron Paul...I wonder why??? lol
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Because it's a non event that's why.
The real "dirty little secret" at the end of the day?...the Republican party can chuck Ron Paul out on his ass any time they feel like it. It's already over for him, but at that point it's also over for Rand who still has a career and Ron isn't going to let that happen.

Ron is playing a game of "Notice me notice me!" right now so he can hopefully get a decent speaking spot at the convention. That will be to do a grand finale speech and secure speaking tour engagements and hopefully cement Rand into some sort spotlight. If you think it's about anything else, you are kidding yourselves...I know that is more or less standard operating procedure among Paultards, but that's the way it is.

When he drops out don't act too disapointed or play like you feel used, because you all already know it deep down anyway. He has used you all since the beginning because even if YOU didn't know he never stood a chance of winning the nom?...you had better believe HE has. You don't have a 30 year career in politics WITHOUT knowing such simple things. He just found a new method to milk you and the campaign process a little longer this round, actually YOU ALL have found it for him, it's pretty slick really.
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Coming from the guy that said Paul would drop out by April. How's that little prediction working out for ya SHR? This has really got to be tough for you, watching Paul dominate these latest conventions goobbling up delegates state after state.

The only thing I know deep down at the moment is that Romney is getting his ass handed to him despite his dirty little tricks. I'm surprised you don't even feel a little dirty for all the antics he's pulling. Lol, fake slates, guess that didn't work either.

This race is just starting to get exciting!
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SHR, I've seen in several threads that you've agreed to change your name on here if Dr. Paul wins the nomination...

Is that true? If it is, I commend you for standing behind your beliefs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055574


Actually I offered a bet with one of the more well known Paul Supporter members here that if RP did win?...I'd change my name for some period of time, say a month, to "Ron Paul Rocks"..or whatever they wanted that was similar. If he didn't?...then they change their name to "Gullible" or something like that, same time period.

They declined...so I guess they weren't committed to "stand behind their beliefs".
 Quoting: SHR


If you're absolutely positive (as it sounds you are) that Dr. Paul will not win the nomination, why not just stand behind your beliefs without reciprocation from any Ron Paul supporters? Do you feel confident enough about your predictions to do that? After all, if he has no chance at all, what do you actually have to lose?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055574


I just may, it'd be fun anyway...but what do I have to win?...nothing...also I don't really like to give away anything on a bet when the other person wusses out or welches on it...I play tournement poker...and that'd be bad luck juju....lol! and no matter what anyone says?...a little luck don't hurt!
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Well, since I'm a Paultard, I'll offer to put my name as "SHR ROCKS" or "Deceived by Dr. Paul" of "paultard" or something like that if he doesn't win the nomination.

Being an AC I know that offer doesn't hold much water... but it's something...
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Another in the bag; Ron Paul wins Maine, page 1


I'm at the convention now, 15 delegates for Ron Paul, 6 more to elect and Romney's dickheads are trying to stuff the ballot with duplicate names to Ron Paul delegates, but that's pretty bland compared to all they did trying to rig the election yesterday...will tell more when I'm at a computer if people want to hear about it.
Edit: have a bit of free time so here's what went on yesterday:
the convention got delayed 2.5 hours off the bat because the Romney people came late
after the first vote elected the Ron Paul supporting candidate with about a10% lead, Romney's people started trying to stall and call in their friends, the chair was a Ron Paul supporter and won by 4 votes some hours later (after Romney's people tried and failed to steal some 1000 unclaimed badges for delegates (mostly Ron Paul supporters) who didn't show
everything was met with a recount, often several times
Romney people would take turns one at a time at the Ron Paul booth trying to pick fights with a group of Ron Paul supporters in an effort to get them kicked out, all attempts failed through the course of the day
the Romney supporters printed duplicate stickers to the Ron Paul ones for national delegates (same fonts, format, etc) with their nominees' names and tried to slip them into Ron Paul supporter's convention bags
in an attempt to stall and call in no-show delegates, Romney's people nominated no less than 200 random people as national delegates, then each went to stage one by one to withdraw their nomination
after two Ron Paul heavy counties voted and went home, Romney's people called a revote under some obscure rule and attempted to disqualify the two counties that had left (not sure if they were ever counted or not)
next they tried to disqualify all ballots and postpone voting a day, while a few of the Romney-campaigners tried to incite riots and got booed out of the convention center
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OBAMNEY FAIL AGAIN LOL!! THOSE TRAITOROUS SCUM , LIKE SHR DONT BELONG IN OUR REPUBLIC! GET THE FLOCK OUT!!
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BAAAAAHHHH!!!...LIBUTTY HATER!!!!BAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!AHHHHHHH!!!

Btw on another note?
When Ron Paul fails out I am going to have to deal with all your Paultard heads exploding with every goofball reason you can dream up for it all over this place for probably weeks. It'll be fuckin ponderous, trust that. It'll be everything from HAARP beams and Chemtrails to a virtual deluge of nefarious plots and schemes for RP losing to another deluge of theories about RP really hasn't lost and is going whip out da magik stick in August and then they'll seee...THEN THEY"LL SEE! to hundreds of other plots and behind the scenes Paul soopa hero stunt fucks that are going to blow the whole thing wide open and stand the country on it's head. Combine that with the fuck you I'm voting for Obama now you bitches! inevitible tsunami? and it's going to be nothing but wailing, gnashing of teeth and batshit rapid failout meltdowns from the Paultards for weeks...at least.

So I got that goin for me....
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Despite what you may have heard from the mainstream media, Mitt Romney does not have the Republican nomination locked up. In fact, he is rapidly losing delegates that almost everyone assumed that he already had in the bag. To understand why this is happening, you have to understand the delegate selection process. Each state has different rules for selecting delegates to the Republican national convention, and in many states the "voting" done by the public does not determine the allocation of delegates to particular candidates at all. And the truth is that delegates are the only thing that really matters in this race. In state after state, the Ron Paul campaign is focusing on the delegate selection process with laser-like precision, and it is paying off big time. At this point, there is still a legitimate chance that Ron Paul will be able to win enough delegates to deny Mitt Romney the nomination on the first ballot at the Republican national convention in Tampa. If Romney does not have the 1,144 delegates that he needs on the first ballot, then it becomes a brokered convention and anything becomes possible at that point.

Sadly, most Americans have no idea how this process really works.

For example, originally we were all told that Mitt Romney won Iowa.

Then, later on we were told that a mistake was made and that Rick Santorum actually won Iowa.

Well, it turns out that Ron Paul actually won 20 out of the 28 delegates in Iowa. That is because the process of actually selecting the delegates occurred long after the voting by the public was over.

So what happens if the Ron Paul campaign is able to produce similar results in state after state?

The Ron Paul campaign is very organized, very motivated and they understand the rules of the game. As a recent Politico article detailed, there are huge amounts of unbound delegates out there that are still up for grabs....

There are roughly 30 states and territories where delegates aren’t bound to a particular candidate. The majority of the other states, according to a number of party officials, call for delegates to be bound for a first round of balloting but not the ensuing rounds.

“The dirty little secret is: At the end of the day, these guys and gals can vote any way they want,” said a Republican who has attended national conventions for decades. “Each state has different (laws) on pledged delegates.”

In many states, the "official" results of voting done by the public mean next to nothing. The talking heads on television often tell us how many delegates are "projected" to go to a particular candidate, but as we have seen in Iowa and in so many other states, those "projections" are basically meaningless.

More at [link to endoftheamericandream.com]
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I think it would be fun if he forced a brokered national convention, then concede to Romney at the convention and declare a third party run.
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Ron Paul will be the winner of a brokered convention. If ORoma doesn't win on the 1st vote, he's toast.

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