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History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.

 
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History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
This is exactly how the late 70's and early 80's went, they passed out pills such as valium like candy in the late 70's then when the government takes the legal doctor pills away people turned to hard drugs. This has been a long time in the making.

This will end the same way as it did last time, people will die in droves.


Article from ohio;(Columbus) - As the state cracks down on pain clinics and prescription drug abuse, addicts are turning to a familiar drug to get their high: heroin.

"The amount of heroin that we've seized so far this year is up 60 percent compared to the amount of heroin we seized last year," said Lt. Anne Ralston of the Ohio State Highway Patrol.


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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
heroin works better, duh. and doctors label patients as addicts and quit giving them something they need so the patient gets it off the street. fuck our medical system.
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Also if you didn’t hear its mandatory probation for first time heroin dealers! Judges are not allowed to give jail time.
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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
BULLSHIT! People are having no problem getting pain pills, doctors hand these things out like it's candy.

And even if people are turning to heroin who gives a shit about some fucked up pain pill popping addicts anyways? No one in their right mind is going to shoot heroin unless they have drug problems to begin with
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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
This is for real. I have experienced it first hand. I'm not addicted to them and I would never take anything over 10-15mg however, I have been diagnosed with occipital neuralgia and you would not believe how doctors act nowdays when you tell them you are in pain and non narcotic medicines don't help. I have been treated like a junkie plenty. The sad part is that in most other countries you can purchase low strength opiates otc. On the u.s however taking them makes you a junkie.
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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
OP, you are totally right, I remember when the oxys suddenly appeared & were everywhere...dirt cheap too (late 90's). Then they became harder & harder to find as prices went through the roof. This is all while the Taliban controlled poppy production, keeping it minimal...we certainly took care of THAT problem! Now the brown frown is pennies to the oxy dollar.
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I don't take pain pills, if I could get them I would.
I have crohns and they work perfect. They stop me up, take away the cramps and make me a happy camper.
Oh well

What countries can you buy them over the counter?
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painkillers used to be easy to get when doc's would be getting bonuses from the big pharm companies for prescribing them. they're harder and harder to get after reports of high addiction rates and the sort have been circulated too. A few days ago at work a guy with diabetes came in complaining about how doctors labelled him an addict and wouldn't give him anymore even though he's about to lose his leg and his insides are failing. i had to look up a methadone clinic for the poor guy so he could get something to help him deal with this crap.
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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
I don't take pain pills, if I could get them I would.
I have crohns and they work perfect. They stop me up, take away the cramps and make me a happy camper.
Oh well

What countries can you buy them over the counter?
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You don't want to go down that road, my friend. My best friend since childhood has crohns, and ever since his first morphine IV after his first surgery, he fell in love for the exact reason you described...10 years later he was shooting grams of H in one shot, his life had spun out of control...he always tried to relate how much pain he had. Luckily, he got clean (suboxone is a god-send) & now manages his crohns through a more conscious diet & he's in a MUCH better place.
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bsflag

HEROIN USE IS ON THE RISE BECAUSE THE US GOVERNMENT CONTROLS 98% OF THE WORLDS POPPY PRODUCTION

IF THE US DID CONTROL 98% OF THE WORLDS POPPY PRODUCTION THEN YOU COULD BLAME SOME ELSE.

BUT NO ONE ELSE CONTROLS 98% OF THE WORLDS POPPY PRODUCTION. THE US IS IN FULL CONTROL OF 98% OF THE WORLDS POPPY PRODUCTION.

WHEN THE US GAINES CONTROL OF 98% OF THE WORLDS POPPY PRODUCTION. HEROIN PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION DID NOT DECREASE. NOPE IT SURE DID NOT.

NOW YOU SAY CONSUMPTION IS INCREASING? WELL WHO IS PRODUCING AND DISTRIBUTING THE HEROIN? WHO? YEAP THAT IS RIGHT THE US GOVERNMENT.

NOW ECONOMICALLY IF CONSUMPTIO/DEMAND INCREASES BUT PRICES REMAIN STABLE THAT MEANS THAT PRODUCTION AND DISTIBUTION HAS BEEN RAMPED UP TO MEET THE MARKET DEMAND FOR A PRODUCT.

ARE PRICES STILL STABLE? WELL LET US HAVE A LOOK

[link to www.havocscope.com]

YES IT APPEARS CURRENT MARKET PRICES ARE STABLE AND HAVE NOT INCREASED.

SO WHO IS PRODUCING AND DISTRIBUTING THE HEROIN TO MEET THE INCREASE IN CONSUMER MARKET GROWTH OF HEROIN? WHO?
DID YOU SAY THE US GOVERNMENT? YEAP YOU ARE RIGHT. DO YOU KNOW WHY?

BECAUSE THE US GOVERNMENT CONTROLS THE ENTIRE HEROIN MARKET.

THAT IS ALL.
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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
I don't take pain pills, if I could get them I would.
I have crohns and they work perfect. They stop me up, take away the cramps and make me a happy camper.
Oh well

What countries can you buy them over the counter?
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I know that in Britain, new Zealand, India, and Pakistan. You can buy up to tylenol #3 strength otc. I'm sure there are other countries as well. Tylenol#3 is nowhere near the strenght of what junkies seek but, they are a miracle if you are indeed in pain.
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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
always around the same time the war is over... i don't touch dope, know plenty of friends who turned to it because they could no longer snort oxycontin.

another friend slowly turned to shooting heroin.. i live in ohio, not too far from columbus.

i can tell you for certain, some of these big drug pushers moving big wait are directly connected to military bases and the military community.. i don't ask em where they get their drugs from.
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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
This is a predictable cycle, the third one in my life time.

The crackdown on the pain clinics or "pill mills" started around January 2011.

This tune was written in 66, it still holds true today. Docs get paid to give out pills, everyone gets hooked on said pills, then the pills are removed and people find new places to ruin their lives.


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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
Thx for the link mods, bumping a old thread because it is becoming more and more prevalent daily.

Doctors get people hooked on a drug then remove the drug the person is hooked on and the person goes to the black market.





[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

Snip:HuffPost Live hosted a discussion Tuesday about who takes responsibility when we get hooked on painkillers -- The addicts? The doctors prescribing the drugs? The pharmaceutical companies? -- and how many inadvertent addicts and deaths the drug is responsible for.
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Lets bump this because it's still getting worse, a lot worse.


Snip; The problem is also not limited to the D.C. region. A national survey on drug abuse released in September showed that the number of people abusing heroin between 2002 and 2012 more than doubled from 214,000 to 467,000.

In the last six years, the number of people who admitted to using heroin recently went from 373,000 in 2007 to 669,000 in 2012.



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Snip;A new study published in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine gives new insight into the geographic variation in drug poisoning mortality, with both urban centers and rural areas showing a large increase in death rates.

While previous studies have looked at drug poisoning related deaths in broad strokes, this is the first study to examine them on the county level across the entire U.S. Drug poisoning is now the leading cause of injury death in the U.S. and has increased by more than 300 percent over the last three decades.

Almost 90 percent of poisoning deaths can be attributed to illicit or licit drugs, with prescription drugs accounting for the majority of drug overdose deaths. According to reports from the National Survey of Drug Use and Health, about 2.1 percent of Americans-or roughly 5 million people-have used prescription painkillers non-medically in the past month.




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enter
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Hepatitis C
increases to follow?
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Hepatitis C
increases to follow?
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Posted 20 hours ago.


Snip; Hepatitis C related deaths are on the rise


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HEROIN USE IS ON THE RISE BECAUSE THE US GOVERNMENT CONTROLS 98% OF THE WORLDS POPPY PRODUCTION

IF THE US DID CONTROL 98% OF THE WORLDS POPPY PRODUCTION THEN YOU COULD BLAME SOME ELSE.

BUT NO ONE ELSE CONTROLS 98% OF THE WORLDS POPPY PRODUCTION. THE US IS IN FULL CONTROL OF 98% OF THE WORLDS POPPY PRODUCTION.

WHEN THE US GAINES CONTROL OF 98% OF THE WORLDS POPPY PRODUCTION. HEROIN PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION DID NOT DECREASE. NOPE IT SURE DID NOT.

NOW YOU SAY CONSUMPTION IS INCREASING? WELL WHO IS PRODUCING AND DISTRIBUTING THE HEROIN? WHO? YEAP THAT IS RIGHT THE US GOVERNMENT.

NOW ECONOMICALLY IF CONSUMPTIO/DEMAND INCREASES BUT PRICES REMAIN STABLE THAT MEANS THAT PRODUCTION AND DISTIBUTION HAS BEEN RAMPED UP TO MEET THE MARKET DEMAND FOR A PRODUCT.

ARE PRICES STILL STABLE? WELL LET US HAVE A LOOK

[link to www.havocscope.com]

YES IT APPEARS CURRENT MARKET PRICES ARE STABLE AND HAVE NOT INCREASED.

SO WHO IS PRODUCING AND DISTRIBUTING THE HEROIN TO MEET THE INCREASE IN CONSUMER MARKET GROWTH OF HEROIN? WHO?
DID YOU SAY THE US GOVERNMENT? YEAP YOU ARE RIGHT. DO YOU KNOW WHY?

BECAUSE THE US GOVERNMENT CONTROLS THE ENTIRE HEROIN MARKET.

THAT IS ALL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10097155


Yep...why do you thnk we still have troops in Afghanistan??? If you believe the gov line about democracy...wake up!!!

"Afghanistan has been the greatest illicit opium producer in the entire world, ahead of Burma (Myanmar), the "Golden Triangle", and Latin America since 1992, excluding the year 2001.[1] Afghanistan is the main producer of opium in the "Golden Crescent". Opium production in Afghanistan has been on the rise since U.S. occupation"

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
They are saying last month heroin killed more people in the greater Cleveland area then all car accidents and homicides combined.

I lost over 20 friends, (I quit counting after 20) to this two decades ago, it was more then 1/8 my graduating class passed away in just a few short years and it's back.


Snip; Last year, heroin killed 161 people in the county. More than half of those deaths occurred in the suburbs, according County Medical Examiner Dr. Thomas Gilson.

The number of heroin deaths in 2012 is a four-fold increase over 2007 statistics.

Heroin supplanted cocaine in 2011 as the county's deadliest drug, and its death toll continues to soar.
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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
I don't take pain pills, if I could get them I would.
I have crohns and they work perfect. They stop me up, take away the cramps and make me a happy camper.
Oh well

What countries can you buy them over the counter?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12807134


try paregoric, if you can get it. Old over-the-counter med that helps the way you would like.
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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
It's getting worse as I expected when I started this thread a long time ago.


I heard this three+ months ago, but could not find a source, that's why I posed on 12/7/2013.

Here it is though below


Snip; The heroin epidemic in Ohio now kills one person in the state every five hours and kills more people each year than car accidents do.

[link to www.addictioninterventionnow.com]

Last Edited by Chrit on 03/10/2014 09:04 PM
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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
Holder is only bringing it up today for a distraction. I posted this 5/7/2012


Now here we are...



Ship; Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday called the increase in heroin-related deaths an "urgent and growing public health crisis"...

[link to news.yahoo.com]
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Re: History repeating it self, Heroin use on the rise as goverment cracks down on pain pills.
I don't take pain pills, if I could get them I would.
I have crohns and they work perfect. They stop me up, take away the cramps and make me a happy camper.
Oh well

What countries can you buy them over the counter?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12807134


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