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There is no Jesus. Jesus never existed.

 
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Sigh, what a tard OP.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Sometime before 117 AD, the Roman historian apparently wrote:

"Nero looked around for a scapegoat, and inflicted the most fiendish tortures on a group of persons already hated for their crimes. This was the sect known as Christians. Their founder, one Christus, had been put to death by the procurator, Pontius Pilate in the reign of Tiberius. This checked the abominable superstition for a while, but it broke out again and spread, not merely through Judea, where it originated, but even to Rome itself, the great reservoir and collecting ground for every kind of depravity and filth. Those who confessed to being Christians were at once arrested, but on their testimony a great crowd of people were convicted, not so much on the charge of arson, but of hatred of the entire human race.

Their deaths were made farcical. Dressed in wild animals' skins , they were torn to pieces by dogs, or crucified, or made into torches to be ignited after dark as substitutes for daylight."

– Tacitus (Book 15, chapter 44):


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There's just one HUGE problem. The term 'Christian' was not in use during the reign of Nero!!!

YOU FAIL!!
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Here's an interesting tidbit for all you bible thumpers.

There is not even ONE person in the 'gospels' who addressed Jesus by this name. Not one !!!

The bible repeatedly tells us that 'Jesus did this', or 'Jesus said that', or 'Jesus got into the boat', etc.

Every person who addresed the son of man used another name, such as Master, Rabbi, Teacher, etc.

You'd think that if this person was so well known that they would have used that name when they called to him, or addressed him face to face.

Check it out for yourself.

Jesus never existed except in the imagination. It has been placed there by the book itself, and used to scare the daylights out of mankind, and to divide humanity into sheep pens for control.

Sorry, OP is correct.
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How arrogant. Saying the word God doesnt make me an agnostic. There is no god.
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Well that is illogical there is a God or there is not a God no middle ground.
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youre right. there is no god.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix


Proof?


chuckle
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No problem. Calling God. God please show yourself..... God, where are you? My claim is supported by complete absence and lack of evidence of the existence of such a being.
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There is truth behind every myth.

Jesus was a fool, a pawn, a willing plaything to the awful conspirators who stood to gain everything from his demise. His outrage was always reserved for those who used him, and himself for allowing it. This is pacification; weakness made strength.

Just ask St. Peter Pan how real he was.

Better yet... Die. Your answer is never far off.
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Well that is illogical there is a God or there is not a God no middle ground.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


youre right. there is no god.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix


Proof?


chuckle
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No problem. Calling God. God please show yourself..... God, where are you? My claim is supported by complete absence and lack of evidence of the existence of such a being.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix


Hmmm, let's test that... calling Barack Obama....Obama please speak to me...Obama where are you?

I guess Obama doesn't exist.

lol

I'm done schooling you. It's too easy now.

Take it easy.
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Well that is illogical there is a God or there is not a God no middle ground.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


youre right. there is no god.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix


Proof?


chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9873825


No problem. Calling God. God please show yourself..... God, where are you? My claim is supported by complete absence and lack of evidence of the existence of such a being.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix


Cute... Getting up in the middle of the day is exhausting. I'm going back to sleep.
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youre right. there is no god.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix


Proof?


chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9873825


No problem. Calling God. God please show yourself..... God, where are you? My claim is supported by complete absence and lack of evidence of the existence of such a being.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix


Hmmm, let's test that... calling Barack Obama....Obama please speak to me...Obama where are you?

I guess Obama doesn't exist.

lol

I'm done schooling you. It's too easy now.

Take it easy.
 Quoting: Evan03 9873825


well you cant call out to barack obama. but you can certainly drive to his house or schedule a tour of his office or turn on any television set and see that he is real. your schooling tactics are small time and childish. maybe you better get back to your prayer meeting.
DCLXVI
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Proof?


chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9873825


No problem. Calling God. God please show yourself..... God, where are you? My claim is supported by complete absence and lack of evidence of the existence of such a being.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix


Hmmm, let's test that... calling Barack Obama....Obama please speak to me...Obama where are you?

I guess Obama doesn't exist.

lol

I'm done schooling you. It's too easy now.

Take it easy.
 Quoting: Evan03 9873825


well you cant call out to barack obama. but you can certainly drive to his house or schedule a tour of his office or turn on any television set and see that he is real. your schooling tactics are small time and childish. maybe you better get back to your prayer meeting.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix



The arguments you use to prove Jesus was not a person are the same used to prove he was.
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
-Norman Bates

I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
-Tupac Shakur

Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
-Tupac Shakur

I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
-Tupac Shakur

I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
-Malcolm X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
-Malcolm X

When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.
-Dawn of the Dead

What an excellent day for an exorcism.
-The Exorcist
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No problem. Calling God. God please show yourself..... God, where are you? My claim is supported by complete absence and lack of evidence of the existence of such a being.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix


Hmmm, let's test that... calling Barack Obama....Obama please speak to me...Obama where are you?

I guess Obama doesn't exist.

lol

I'm done schooling you. It's too easy now.

Take it easy.
 Quoting: Evan03 9873825


well you cant call out to barack obama. but you can certainly drive to his house or schedule a tour of his office or turn on any television set and see that he is real. your schooling tactics are small time and childish. maybe you better get back to your prayer meeting.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix



The arguments you use to prove Jesus was not a person are the same used to prove he was.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Oh my goodness. We have a genius on our hands folks. It seems that a complete lack of evidence is what proves Jesus was real. yodaverycoolclappa
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The Depiction of Jesus:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Shroud of Turin:
Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural:
[link to www.independent.co.uk]

Carbon dating Fail:
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Biblical/Non Accounts:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Greco-Roman Pagan sources
Jewish sources
Christian sources

[link to www.allaboutjesuschrist.org]

John 20:20
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Philippians 2
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Jeremiah 29:13
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.


Jesus Christ:
Advocate (1 John 2:1)
Almighty (Rev. 1:8; Mt. 28:18)
Alpha and Omega (Rev. 1:8; 22:13)
Author of Salvation (Heb. 2:10)
Beginning and End (Rev. 22:13)
Blessed and only Ruler (1 Tim. 6:15)
Bread of God (John 6:33)
Bread of Life (John 6:35; 6:48)
Capstone (Acts 4:11; 1 Pet. 2:7)
Chief Cornerstone (Eph. 2:20)
Chief Shepherd (1 Pet. 5:4)
Christ (1 John 2:22)
Creator (John 1:3)
Deliverer (Rom. 11:26)
Eternal Life (1 John 1:2; 5:20)
Everlasting Father (Isa. 9:6)
Gate (John 10:9)
Faithful and True (Rev. 19:11)
Faithful Witness (Rev. 1:5)
Faith and True Witness (Rev. 3:14)
First and Last (Rev. 1:17; 2:8; 22:13)
Firstborn From the Dead (Rev. 1:5)
God (John 1:1; 20:28; Heb. 1:8; Rom. 9:5; 2 Pet. 1:1;1 John 5:20; etc.)
Good Shepherd (John 10:11,14)
Great Shepherd (Heb. 13:20)
Holy and True (Rev. 3:7)
Image of God (2 Cor. 4:4)
King Eternal (1 Tim. 1:17)
King of Israel (John 1:49)
King of the jewish people (Mt. 27:11)
King of kings (1 Tim 6:15; Rev. 19:16)
King of the Ages (Rev. 15:3)
Lamb (Rev. 13:8)
Lamb of God (John 1:29)
Life (John 14:6; Col. 3:4)
Light of the World (John 8:12)
Lion of the Tribe of Judah (Rev. 5:5)
Living One (Rev. 1:18)
Living Stone (1 Pet. 2:4)
Lord (2 Pet. 2:20)
Lord of All (Acts 10:36)
Lord of Glory (1 Cor. 2:8)
Lord of lords (Rev. 19:16)
LORD [YHWH] our Righteousness (Jer. 23:6)
Only Begotten Son of God (John 1:18; 1 John 4:9)
Our Great God and Savior (Titus 2:13)
Our Holiness (1 Cor. 1:30)
Our Protection (2 Thess. 3:3)
Our Redemption (1 Cor. 1:30)
Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6)
Resurrection and Life (John 11:25)
Son of God (John 1:49; Heb. 4:14)
Son of Man (Mt. 8:20)
Son of the Most High God (Lk. 1:32)
Source of Eternal Salvation for all who obey him (Heb. 5:9)
True Bread (John 6:32)
True Light (John 1:9)
Truth (John 1:14; 14:6)
Way (John 14:6)
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Hmmm, let's test that... calling Barack Obama....Obama please speak to me...Obama where are you?

I guess Obama doesn't exist.

lol

I'm done schooling you. It's too easy now.

Take it easy.
 Quoting: Evan03 9873825


well you cant call out to barack obama. but you can certainly drive to his house or schedule a tour of his office or turn on any television set and see that he is real. your schooling tactics are small time and childish. maybe you better get back to your prayer meeting.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix



The arguments you use to prove Jesus was not a person are the same used to prove he was.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Oh my goodness. We have a genius on our hands folks. It seems that a complete lack of evidence is what proves Jesus was real. yodaverycoolclappa
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix


Not so much because your not a historian.
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
-Norman Bates

I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
-Tupac Shakur

Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
-Tupac Shakur

I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
-Tupac Shakur

I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
-Malcolm X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
-Malcolm X

When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.
-Dawn of the Dead

What an excellent day for an exorcism.
-The Exorcist
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The Depiction of Jesus:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Shroud of Turin:
Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural:
[link to www.independent.co.uk]

Carbon dating Fail:
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Biblical/Non Accounts:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Greco-Roman Pagan sources
Jewish sources
Christian sources

[link to www.allaboutjesuschrist.org]

John 20:20
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Philippians 2
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Jeremiah 29:13
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.


Jesus Christ:
Advocate (1 John 2:1)
Almighty (Rev. 1:8; Mt. 28:18)
Alpha and Omega (Rev. 1:8; 22:13)
Author of Salvation (Heb. 2:10)
Beginning and End (Rev. 22:13)
Blessed and only Ruler (1 Tim. 6:15)
Bread of God (John 6:33)
Bread of Life (John 6:35; 6:48)
Capstone (Acts 4:11; 1 Pet. 2:7)
Chief Cornerstone (Eph. 2:20)
Chief Shepherd (1 Pet. 5:4)
Christ (1 John 2:22)
Creator (John 1:3)
Deliverer (Rom. 11:26)
Eternal Life (1 John 1:2; 5:20)
Everlasting Father (Isa. 9:6)
Gate (John 10:9)
Faithful and True (Rev. 19:11)
Faithful Witness (Rev. 1:5)
Faith and True Witness (Rev. 3:14)
First and Last (Rev. 1:17; 2:8; 22:13)
Firstborn From the Dead (Rev. 1:5)
God (John 1:1; 20:28; Heb. 1:8; Rom. 9:5; 2 Pet. 1:1;1 John 5:20; etc.)
Good Shepherd (John 10:11,14)
Great Shepherd (Heb. 13:20)
Holy and True (Rev. 3:7)
Image of God (2 Cor. 4:4)
King Eternal (1 Tim. 1:17)
King of Israel (John 1:49)
King of the jewish people (Mt. 27:11)
King of kings (1 Tim 6:15; Rev. 19:16)
King of the Ages (Rev. 15:3)
Lamb (Rev. 13:8)
Lamb of God (John 1:29)
Life (John 14:6; Col. 3:4)
Light of the World (John 8:12)
Lion of the Tribe of Judah (Rev. 5:5)
Living One (Rev. 1:18)
Living Stone (1 Pet. 2:4)
Lord (2 Pet. 2:20)
Lord of All (Acts 10:36)
Lord of Glory (1 Cor. 2:8)
Lord of lords (Rev. 19:16)
LORD [YHWH] our Righteousness (Jer. 23:6)
Only Begotten Son of God (John 1:18; 1 John 4:9)
Our Great God and Savior (Titus 2:13)
Our Holiness (1 Cor. 1:30)
Our Protection (2 Thess. 3:3)
Our Redemption (1 Cor. 1:30)
Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6)
Resurrection and Life (John 11:25)
Son of God (John 1:49; Heb. 4:14)
Son of Man (Mt. 8:20)
Son of the Most High God (Lk. 1:32)
Source of Eternal Salvation for all who obey him (Heb. 5:9)
True Bread (John 6:32)
True Light (John 1:9)
Truth (John 1:14; 14:6)
Way (John 14:6)
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So the bible and the shroud of fucking turin are your undeniable pieces of evidence? YESSSSS
DCLXVI
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I never made a claim. my view is based on the facts. Jesus isnt here, I cant talk to him, I cant see or hear him and all I have to go off of is a story book. According to these criteria, all story book characters should be considered real. I am not ready to submit to that idea so I can only come to the summation that jesus was never real and is not god. The bible and the christians are the ones who make the unsupported claims.
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you just scrapped 90% of history ..lol
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The Depiction of Jesus:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Shroud of Turin:
Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural:
[link to www.independent.co.uk]

Carbon dating Fail:
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Biblical/Non Accounts:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Greco-Roman Pagan sources
Jewish sources
Christian sources

[link to www.allaboutjesuschrist.org]

John 20:20
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Philippians 2
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Jeremiah 29:13
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.


Jesus Christ:
Advocate (1 John 2:1)
Almighty (Rev. 1:8; Mt. 28:18)
Alpha and Omega (Rev. 1:8; 22:13)
Author of Salvation (Heb. 2:10)
Beginning and End (Rev. 22:13)
Blessed and only Ruler (1 Tim. 6:15)
Bread of God (John 6:33)
Bread of Life (John 6:35; 6:48)
Capstone (Acts 4:11; 1 Pet. 2:7)
Chief Cornerstone (Eph. 2:20)
Chief Shepherd (1 Pet. 5:4)
Christ (1 John 2:22)
Creator (John 1:3)
Deliverer (Rom. 11:26)
Eternal Life (1 John 1:2; 5:20)
Everlasting Father (Isa. 9:6)
Gate (John 10:9)
Faithful and True (Rev. 19:11)
Faithful Witness (Rev. 1:5)
Faith and True Witness (Rev. 3:14)
First and Last (Rev. 1:17; 2:8; 22:13)
Firstborn From the Dead (Rev. 1:5)
God (John 1:1; 20:28; Heb. 1:8; Rom. 9:5; 2 Pet. 1:1;1 John 5:20; etc.)
Good Shepherd (John 10:11,14)
Great Shepherd (Heb. 13:20)
Holy and True (Rev. 3:7)
Image of God (2 Cor. 4:4)
King Eternal (1 Tim. 1:17)
King of Israel (John 1:49)
King of the jewish people (Mt. 27:11)
King of kings (1 Tim 6:15; Rev. 19:16)
King of the Ages (Rev. 15:3)
Lamb (Rev. 13:8)
Lamb of God (John 1:29)
Life (John 14:6; Col. 3:4)
Light of the World (John 8:12)
Lion of the Tribe of Judah (Rev. 5:5)
Living One (Rev. 1:18)
Living Stone (1 Pet. 2:4)
Lord (2 Pet. 2:20)
Lord of All (Acts 10:36)
Lord of Glory (1 Cor. 2:8)
Lord of lords (Rev. 19:16)
LORD [YHWH] our Righteousness (Jer. 23:6)
Only Begotten Son of God (John 1:18; 1 John 4:9)
Our Great God and Savior (Titus 2:13)
Our Holiness (1 Cor. 1:30)
Our Protection (2 Thess. 3:3)
Our Redemption (1 Cor. 1:30)
Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6)
Resurrection and Life (John 11:25)
Son of God (John 1:49; Heb. 4:14)
Son of Man (Mt. 8:20)
Son of the Most High God (Lk. 1:32)
Source of Eternal Salvation for all who obey him (Heb. 5:9)
True Bread (John 6:32)
True Light (John 1:9)
Truth (John 1:14; 14:6)
Way (John 14:6)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10846423


AC 423 for the Win!

OP will not see it as evidence tho. Like I said, he is closed minded and brainwashed. He doesn't really seek truth, only to advance an agenda.
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The Buddhists have documents that are dated from 2000 yrs ago of a Saint Issa which they claim is Jesus. He is buried in Srinigar, India and probably is the same man that left the middle east with his metal dealing uncle. That would explain the missing years.
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well you cant call out to barack obama. but you can certainly drive to his house or schedule a tour of his office or turn on any television set and see that he is real. your schooling tactics are small time and childish. maybe you better get back to your prayer meeting.
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix



The arguments you use to prove Jesus was not a person are the same used to prove he was.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Oh my goodness. We have a genius on our hands folks. It seems that a complete lack of evidence is what proves Jesus was real. yodaverycoolclappa
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix


Not so much because your not a historian.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Im sorry. I didnt know you were a historian.
DCLXVI
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If Jesus ever truly existed, I challenge anyone with the means to prove it. The burden of proof is on you, who claim that this nonexistent man was a God. Not only are you wrong about him being God but you are completely insane if you actually believe he was ever alive in the first place.
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oh stop with it. There are records at the vatican, but since those aren't public,

I will have to do. I know him personally, He IS returned and we formed the 2nd Coming organization abundanthope and me and my team provide regular messages from him on the web. In fact, I just returned an hour ago from a meeting on craft.

Otherwise please go the Phoenix Jounals. Most important one to YOU is: [link to www.freewebs.com] then select #2 And they Called his Name Immanuel.

He is his pic from 1961. He returned in 1954, :Black and White :

colorized version :esu with blue ey:
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If Jesus ever truly existed, I challenge anyone with the means to prove it. The burden of proof is on you, who claim that this nonexistent man was a God. Not only are you wrong about him being God but you are completely insane if you actually believe he was ever alive in the first place.
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oh stop with it. There are records at the vatican, but since those aren't public,

I will have to do. I know him personally, He IS returned and we formed the 2nd Coming organization abundanthope and me and my team provide regular messages from him on the web. In fact, I just returned an hour ago from a meeting on craft.

Otherwise please go the Phoenix Jounals. Most important one to YOU is: [link to www.freewebs.com] then select #2 And they Called his Name Immanuel.

He is his pic from 1961. He returned in 1954, :Black and White :

colorized version :esu with blue ey:
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hahaha. what the fuck is this shit?
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No evidence will be given other than some esoteric horse shit about how my FEAR is the proof of Jesus' existence, huh? I have looked for information concerning the proof of Jesus' existence and i have found nothing to support the claims.
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Pliny the Younger

Pliny the younger was the provincial governor of Pontus and Bithynia, he wrote to emperor Trajan concerning how to deal with Christians, who refused to worship the emperor, and instead worshiped "Christus"(Christ).

Tacitus

Tacitus , writings included in his annals a mention of Christianity and "Christus", the Latinized Greek translation of the Hebrew word "Messiah".

Suetonius

Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus wrote in his lives of the twelve caesars about riots which broke out in the juuuish community in Rome under the emperor Claudius. The event was noted in the term and Chrestus also appears in some later texts applied to Jesus............
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[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com]
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Idiot.

it's the same evidence that Genghis Kahn existed or for that matter any ancient historical figure.

You clearly have a predisposed idea and it doesn't matter what far more intelligent historians wrote, you want to wallow in your ignorance.

Fool.
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Idiot.

it's the same evidence that Genghis Kahn existed or for that matter any ancient historical figure.

You clearly have a predisposed idea and it doesn't matter what far more intelligent historians wrote, you want to wallow in your ignorance.

Fool.
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you are a snarky little christian arent you?
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Tyberius and Caligula began what would eventually evolve into The Knights Templar and Freemasonry on the Island of Capri. Caligula was essentially the first Masonic initiate (the khephra beetle on Crowley's Thoth Tarot version of The Moon is the same idea as a masonic compass and square), and the Second Grand Master once Tiberius was dead (not likely a title at the time). Jesus' ministry came into prominence as these events on Capri were unfolding, Jesus watched "big aura Caligula" with his mind's eye, much as he is still watched as Kevin today. Jesus drew inspiration from Caligula for his ministry because Caligula got into Greek philosophy in his teens, including Hellenistic Cynicism, which was right up Jesus' alley so to speak (Hollywood people play the same symbolic games with their careers all the time relative to events in Kevin's life). This was also likely the reason he was summoned to Capri by Tiberius, as Tiberius considered this to be an omen of a sort (Emperor looks over to the Hierphant and Fool over in Taurus from Aries in Crowley's Thoth Tarot layed out in the secret alchemical tree for the same reason). Caligula in turn drew inspiration from Jesus once he got wind of what was going on, after Jesus was already dead. After Caligula died, his contemporary history was effectively erased and over time replaced with a more profane history, and Jesus' teachings were taken over by Rome and symbolically encrypted with "events Caligula", which is why Jesus became God on Earth in that religion (Caligula did not perform miracles either). Prior to this, Jesus was just another mystic practicing astral arts, as was Caligula from a royal bloodline perspective. They were not Gods, and Caligula knew full well he was not a God (call it Greek Sarcasm). This was just Human Sacrifice Caligula communicating with another person via inspired symbolism (rather desperate: "I'm so desperate for real communication with another contemporary, I will settle for a dead contemporary.").

Caligula in the woods with Drucilla at the beginning of the film likely symbolizes Caligula with some unknown teenage girl in Tiberius' garden on Capri. The person today who was once Caligula is still watched via the astral quite a bit. This woods scene symbolizes the child I call Kevin playing in the Alaskan woods with a girl in 1974 at age eight. It is unlikely that much of the porn in Caligula can be taken at face value as historical fact. It is more likely that Tiberius and Caligula lived more in tune with the idea of a more refined human sexual expression, of a more illuminating nature, and much of the seeming lack of continuity between Penthouse Pet porn and the rest of the film has more to do with symbolizing via contrast sexual experiences had by Caligula in incarnations immediately following that of Caligula, for example the sexual initiation of the Batavian Pompeii gladiator Caligula became in 75AD, involving four preteen girls in a basement temple/girl's bedroom (an oracle cult), with Drucilla symbolizing the girl of ten he fell in love with that night because she smiled, the kitten Drucilla toys with in bed symbolizing a more confused nine-year-old, and the lesbians/homosexual men watching through peep holes symbolizing 11 and 12 year old girls (12th year birthday party for a very rich girl) the gladiator was expected to entertain; chasing off the two homosexual men symbolizes several hours of sex with girl he didn't like that much. This event was arranged as punishment for Caligula's soul living under occult Roman control from lifetime to lifetime. He died as Caligula, was born in Gaul as "Jesus' child" only to die very young, and then he was born in Batavia 58AD, where he trained in "the Cav" before being sacrificed to Rome as gladiator and bisexual sex worker.

Sync Caligula with Season 6 of Married with Children and see what happens. The History Specials on the History Channel sync with a good number of films in a similar playlist fashion - by Collection - for example, the Decoding History's Secrets Collection (iTunes) is particularly informative in sync with movies such as Caligula (1979); Don't Be Afraid of the Dark (2010); Opera (1987); Suspiria (1977); The Vampire Happening (1971); Animal House; and Apocalypse Now.
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if there are plenty of references to jesus outside of the bible, then please list them here. f you can convince me that he was real then i might be willing to listen to you religious mumbo jumbo.
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Do your own home work.
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if there are plenty of references to jesus outside of the bible, then please list them here. f you can convince me that he was real then i might be willing to listen to you religious mumbo jumbo.
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Do your own home work.
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arent you supposed to be a fisher of men? some christian you are...
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Idiot.

it's the same evidence that Genghis Kahn existed or for that matter any ancient historical figure.

You clearly have a predisposed idea and it doesn't matter what far more intelligent historians wrote, you want to wallow in your ignorance.

Fool.
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you are a snarky little christian arent you?
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Actually Muslims believe He existed as well.
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Idiot.

it's the same evidence that Genghis Kahn existed or for that matter any ancient historical figure.

You clearly have a predisposed idea and it doesn't matter what far more intelligent historians wrote, you want to wallow in your ignorance.

Fool.
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you are a snarky little christian arent you?
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Actually Muslims believe He existed as well.
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oh well that settles it
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Idiot.

it's the same evidence that Genghis Kahn existed or for that matter any ancient historical figure.

You clearly have a predisposed idea and it doesn't matter what far more intelligent historians wrote, you want to wallow in your ignorance.

Fool.
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you are a snarky little christian arent you?
 Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix


Actually Muslims believe He existed as well.
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oh well that settles it
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We are all sheeple but you OP, right.
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No evidence will be given other than some esoteric horse shit about how my FEAR is the proof of Jesus' existence, huh? I have looked for information concerning the proof of Jesus' existence and i have found nothing to support the claims.
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Pliny the Younger

Pliny the younger was the provincial governor of Pontus and Bithynia, he wrote to emperor Trajan concerning how to deal with Christians, who refused to worship the emperor, and instead worshiped "Christus"(Christ).

Tacitus

Tacitus , writings included in his annals a mention of Christianity and "Christus", the Latinized Greek translation of the Hebrew word "Messiah".

Suetonius

Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus wrote in his lives of the twelve caesars about riots which broke out in the juuuish community in Rome under the emperor Claudius. The event was noted in the term and Chrestus also appears in some later texts applied to Jesus............
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[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com]
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Yes we should take the word of a bias website...That is like getting parental advice from casey anthony
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Op, you've already made up your mind. Stop trolling.

Go to bed now with a 'clean conscience'.
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you are a snarky little christian arent you?
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Actually Muslims believe He existed as well.
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oh well that settles it
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We are all sheeple but you OP, right.
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Oh no my friend. I am quite certain that i am not the only person who believes Jesus' entire existence is a myth.
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