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Corrado Malanga:

Technically, the ("human") military is the most dangerous of all, because he has the
same characteristics as the aliens, that is: body, mind and spirit, but he does not have a soul nor the consciousness part of the soul, therefore he's practically lobotomized.
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Beware those who point fingers.

They are often trying to distract you from something.
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I have a question for you. Your post says , "animals do have spirit but only as a whole species. So whereas humans might have a spirit for each person, rabbits might have a spirit for the whole rabbit species. Not until an animal individuates away from this group spirit does it acquire its own, and thus become ripe for incarnation as a spirited human."
If, and that is a big IF the 100th Monkey syndrome is true, and that 1st monkey washed their sweet potatoe, a break from the norm, did that monkey in that instance glimpse or become at one with their spirit?
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Well, have you ever had an intuitive nudge from your Higher Self or Spirit or Intuition that gave you an idea, or made you feel like doing something that ended up doing good for another? That subtle nudge came from a higher part of you. So with the 100th Monkey Syndrome, once one monkey was taught it, that awareness probably funneled up through the species oversoul and trickled down into the subconscious of other monkeys and they had the instinctive nudge to do likewise. Although Rupert Sheldrake says the monkeys shared a common morphogenetic field, whereby information / behavior was transferred that way, but that's almost the same concept. Difference is that in Sheldrake's model, it's purely the etheric field network among monkeys that facilitates the transfer, and what's quoted above says it happens via the species oversoul (their shared spirit).
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Im one of those cardboard cutouts you meet in public cause Im simply drained. This world has drained the life out of me.

This is a dangerous post and you cant judge people this way.

Some of the most animated are the most selfish ones

And then you have sick people on medication that makes them groggy.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


Man, read the opening article. Even a person who has spirit but is drained and/or spiritually asleep STILL has background indirect activity of spirit active in their life. Symbolic dreams. Synchronicities. An invisible guiding hand shaping their lives. Evidence of karmic forces at work, destiny, some spiritual learning curriculum. They came into this life not as blank slates, but with carry-overs from previous lives. They evolve in life and aren't just broken records forever making the same spiritual mistakes. Even if they're asleep at the wheel, they're still behind the wheel. As the article said, there's a difference between spiritless people and spirited people who are asleep (or in your case drained).
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Im one of those cardboard cutouts you meet in public cause Im simply drained. This world has drained the life out of me.

This is a dangerous post and you cant judge people this way.

Some of the most animated are the most selfish ones

And then you have sick people on medication that makes them groggy.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


Man, read the opening article. Even a person who has spirit but is drained and/or spiritually asleep STILL has background indirect activity of spirit active in their life. Symbolic dreams. Synchronicities. An invisible guiding hand shaping their lives. Evidence of karmic forces at work, destiny, some spiritual learning curriculum. They came into this life not as blank slates, but with carry-overs from previous lives. They evolve in life and aren't just broken records forever making the same spiritual mistakes. Even if they're asleep at the wheel, they're still behind the wheel. As the article said, there's a difference between spiritless people and spirited people who are asleep (or in your case drained).
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thankyou for your excellent summary. hf
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All sounds like an easy excuse to project onto other people. hmm


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I wish it were so, but unfortunately its not. Some people are just dumb as rocks and blank as a white wall.
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That's true, and quite often they're found spouting 'New Age' metaphysical nonsense and asserting how much they 'know' about 'God's' real intent and nature.

OP, there are certainly people about who are missing some important ingredient, and you can dig and dig, trying to get to know them and never manage to find an 'inside' because there isn't one. That is true enough, but it hasn't anything to do with anybody's organized religion and is a condition much older than any of them. Have you ever bought a bag of peanuts in the shell and every once in a while find a hollow one? It's like that.
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The truth is elusive. On this topic it is bouncing all over the place. "Spiritless Humans" may be unconscious souls, or new souls new to the leading edge experience that is being human in a 3d world. I feel that the human heart can not beat without a soul fire to make it beat but the soul can be sleeping or piggy backed by a negative spirit.
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[link to www.redicecreations.com]

Gnosis (“inner knowing”) was a path of experimental mysticism in which the initiates of the Mystery Schools explored the psyche and the cosmos at large. Using psychoactive plants, yoga, and sex magic, these ancient seers experienced altered states and developed siddhis, occult skills such as clairaudience and remote viewing. Gnosis was a kind of yogic noetic science melded with parapsychology. In heightened perception, Gnostics developed a vast cosmological vision centered in a female deity, the Divine Sophia. The Gnostic creation myth is unique in that it includes a full-blown explanation of how inorganic alien beings came to be present in our solar system.

The Nag Hammadi material contains reports of visionary experiences of the initiates, including first-hand encounters with inorganic beings called Archons. Gnostic teaching explains that these entities arose in the early stage of formation of the solar system, before the Earth was formed. Archons inhabit the solar system, the extraterrestrial realm as such, but they can intrude on Earth. Interestingly, this Gnostic insight accords closely with the view of Jacques Vallee, who maintains that ET/cyborgs probably belong to the local planetary realm. Vallee also proposes that the ET/UFO enigma is a “spiritual control system,” a phenomenon that “behaves like a conditioning process.” (Messengers of Deception). This is exactly what Gnostics said about the Archons: they can affect our minds by subliminal conditioning techniques. Their main tactics are mental error (intellectual virus, or false ideology, especially religious doctrines) and simulation. Archons are predatory, unlike a wide range of non-human and other-dimensional beings also know to the Gnostics, beings who are benevolent or neutral toward humanity.



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[link to montalk.net]

Empty people. Puppet people. Cardboard cutouts. Drones. Organic Portals. Background characters. Why do these terms even exist? Because out of necessity they had to be invented by those who independently noticed the same puzzling phenomenon, one for which there is no official name: some people seem to be missing something very important inside. While they are not necessarily any less intelligent, successful, or physically healthy as anyone else, they nevertheless show no indication of having any higher components to their consciousness.

Over the years I have received emails from readers who came to this same conclusion. They noticed that some people were strangely one dimensional and hollow inside. This observation is not hard to miss, but it is easy to rationalize away, especially with modern society being so heavily brainwashed with the politically correct but unrealistic concept that everyone is completely equal in every way, which ignores functional differences due to environmental, genetic, and most importantly, metaphysical factors.


Appendix III: Permutations of Metaphysical Components

To show the necessity of concepts like spirit, body, etheric, and astral, here is a list of how these components combine to form different kinds of entities. As you will see, the difference between these entities cannot be explained with fewer than those components.

Elementary matter:

body

Crystals and plants:

body | etheric

Average animals:

body | etheric | astral

Spiritless humans:

body | ego | etheric | astral

Spirited humans:

body | ego | etheric | astral | spirit

Spirited humans after choosing to incarnate, first stage:

astral | spirit

Spirited humans after choosing to incarnate, second stage

etheric | astral | spirit

Spirited humans shortly before birth:

body | etheric | astral | spirit

Spirited humans after childhood:

body | ego | etheric | astral | spirit

Spirited humans after physical death:

ego | etheric | astral | spirit

Spirited humans after “second” death, during the afterlife:

spirit

Spiritless humans after formation of embryo:

body | etheric

Spiritless humans shortly before birth:

body | etheric | astral

Spiritless humans after childhood:

body | ego | etheric | astral

Spiritless humans after physical death:

ego | etheric | astral

Spiritless humans after “second” death:

(nothing)

Artificial Humanoids:

body | ego | etheric

Etheric thought-forms and astral wildlife:

etheric | astral

Angelic beings:

astral | spirit

Demonic beings:

ego | etheric | astral

Spirited astral projectors:

ego | astral | spirit

Etheric aliens and transcended humans:

etheric | astral | spirit

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and what? speak plainly should you speak.
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sorry, i thought you wneren't me?
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this is what most fail to understand about the book of genesis,
Yaweh Elohim created man TWICE, not once. First he created the different races of the earth, THEN he created Adam and Eve to start a chosen bloodline. It was during this second act of creation that the Godhead "breathed life into his nostrils and he became a living soul". It's all right there. The implications obviously would cause the greatest holy war the world has ever seen.
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Where does this info come from?
 Quoting: Haelo


The seemingly two creation stories in Genesis.

The first says that God created man and told him to be fruitful and multiply. Then, in the next chapter, it says the the Lord God, made man and then breathed life into him.....

It seems to show two seperate creations of man....either thaat, or the bible is just repeating the first creation story in greater detail.
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


people need to throw their bibles AWAY, the world might be better for it. the OT is becoming worse by the day and so is the NT.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


Here we go again...
Just read the NT with having your mind in place... OT is DEAD, and it is only for the reference that it is indeed SO.

The mind is between the spirit and the soul.
So, using your mind, you dress your soul in various garments, worldly or otherworldly (spiritual). Dress wisely, for this matters.
They are SPIRITLESS. What that mean is probably manifested outwardly in all the ways it is described here, in this thread.
All this shit is sort of a misnomer, for all animal and human life have soul.
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as to "soul"" the definitions are all over the place of this world. we need more words, its sort of a catch all word. Is soul life force then, or something else. If you use it as life force that is in anything living, it does not suffice, neither does "spirit" because that is used often the same as soul.

An "ensouled person" in our teachings is generally a person with a Father Fragment obtained in this current life, or a person who is reincarnating.

Animals are beginning to receive Thought adjusters (father fragments, my prefered term) on this world which makes them "human' while still in their "animal forms", and yet the human form is also an animal form. After the stasis/big cleanse, well during it, to be more specific we are going to standardize these terms and add more as needed to English and then those on these teams and probably some angelic language advisors et all will help convert these terms to the other languages which will also require new words in them, WE have a huge paucity of language on this world.

the Father Fragment is a piece of the Fathers MIND, which is of course non physcial that inhabits the human non physical mind.

Now I have said the robotoids do not have them generally, unless they can move out of their boxed minds, and into original thinking. Boxed minds meaning the mind filled with that is added to it from birth on by the culture.

the body comes with a mind, and in the advancing soul it must each life examine what it has been given by society and outgrow what doesn't work.

Now, if any of you ever saw the material in this thread Thread: Has this scientist changed the world with his discovery? A forumla for consciousness????? (Page 4)
I talk about machine mind, and its confinement to this world to solve the problems where it got out of control.

Now it is machine mind that seeks to possess people. More than other dark minds on tis world. The other dark minds can incarnate, and do, and also they can telepathically control unknowning people, but this is not possession and of course some people just give themselves over to invisibles for they are rewarded materially when they do generally.

This is a complicated world, and those who are UB readers have read about the bestowal of Father Fragments on all who are of "normal" mind, (meaning not retarded from poor inheritance and brain abnomalies), since the times of Michael. This was done prematurely on this world, because of the machine mind issues. now these robotoids DO receive adjusters per the rules, but they never know it and it rarely makes any contact with their mind. we do not consider them "ensouled." It is merely a protective device. They receive "virgin" adjusters, newly created adjusters who have never worked with mind.

If you have read most or all of the UB, you know of these who come to worlds to help start some liftup, but their subjects will never perceive them and there is no hope of the eternal partnership between adjuster and these ones, no hope of the eternal partnership of between God and the "human" subject, as these ones are not fully "human" yet. There is no free will god level thinking.

When these ones pass, the adjuster leaves. But the presence of the photonic adjuster, prevents the invasion by the machine satanic mind. I say photonic, because although mind is non physical, the knowing must be stored on something. In plant and animal life, its electrons. you may have seen me state that electrons store any old shit, but photons will only store the truth, and as a person and the adjuster move forward and the person knows truth, his knowing becomes stored on photons and his mind storage system that goes life to life increasing becomes more photonic, giving rise to the term light being. These people have increasingly greater auras too, but their glow comes from those photons of their mind. A human (no matter the body type, ours here are not the only type), becomes a spirit being when all the error on the electrons has been replaced with photons. As more photons store their knowing they also become less physical. MORE Spirit in them. which again we need more words on this one, we have spirit and soul and both are insuffcient.

Go these young adjusters become more experienced by this work, but in only 10% of the robotoids currently, will the adjuster find its hopefully permanent partner in the great journey of eternity. Even when people become adjusterized, it does not mean they will ultimately fuse with it. I don't know what the percentages are for a world such as this where there is eventual fusion. The true eternal journey does not start until this final choice is made between man and god who indwells him via the Adjuster/Father Fragment. Generally this occurs when 6d consciousness has been obtained, but sometimes later than that. At any time before fusion (merging) with the Father Fragment, a morontial soul can reject eternal life. And then the adjuster is left hanging, and must indwell another mind in hopes of finding its partnership.

These are called experienced adjusters and some of them have invested themselves with several humans before they at last find the one who will persist. These ones usually come to the better "new" minds on worlds. Even on this one. and there we have morontial soul. This is the midway stage between the animal soul and the becoming a spirit being. The morontial soul requires still a physical body of some sort to experience in, while the spirit being stands alone without need of a body. It still has form, but its form is all mind. (and that is insufficient too in explanation, but thats as far as I am going here). Spirit beings like me, can use a body however, to make a difference on this world. Since folks are so unaware of spirit beings on this world, its the only way for us to really make a difference.

We have an assortment on this world in terms of "new minds", of two types, the robotoid and the real human mind. the Robotoid is the creation generally of black operatives in the under ground labs of this world, generally the dark reptoids which are now evacuated off this world, so they aren't influencing anyone now. that was in fall 2007.

So in summary the robotoids which are rarely "normal" in mind due to deficiencies in their dna programs, but intelligent enough to be programmed, but don't see the programming, are protected from machine mind possession by the presence of virgin father fragments. This is a way to solve some of the problems of this world, because if this was not given, we would really have some incomprehensible problems far beyond the already incomprehensible ones which have now. You would have battles of machine mind possessed robotoids. Their father fragments merely prevent that, but there is but so far 10% that develop the ability to truly discern. God loves them all anyway, using that term "god" which again, is so inadequate and all purpose on this world. The adjusters love these ones, even knowing that they will not be partnered with them. God does nothing outside of love. It is the nature of the creation.

These robotoids are never able to perceive that "god" that guards them from intrusion of machine mind.
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here we go again, NiP.
animals are animals, humans are humans. All as it ever had bee, nothing NEW is happening so that animals get what is for humans.
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i've always thought i'm a moron
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here we go again, NiP.
animals are animals, humans are humans. All as it ever had bee, nothing NEW is happening so that animals get what is for humans.
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????????
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They are also without Auras.

The Soulless Others have been here for decades (if not millinae). This is only based on my personal observations and experiences.
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thugs create them not only as servants but to prevent incarnation on purpose on this world. These ones make great sources for cannon fodder in wars. Sadly, but it is so.
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NIP, you were getting interesting but Ill have to stop you there. Many of those I know that entered military have a lot less ego then others who only care about frat parties, drinking, facebook and sleeping around

Theres no comparison and Id have to disagree with you.

Theres been great people full of soul and spirit who have entered the military, cause they were more turned off on what College and University has become, Just a recruit training for big law, big farm and big corp.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


There are more options than college or the military.
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our society is designed by psychopaths for psychopaths. (imo)
make no mistake about it.




I sometimes try to act extra spirity because I am afraid I might be one.

However in the article on montalk.net they say that if you ask your self if you might be spiritless, chances are you are spiritfull ;) . because psychopaths can't and/or won't reflect on themselves because they are fu___g psychopaths who haven't got self-awareness.
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just my two eurocents
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i don't know if this stuff exists and if or what can or should be done about them.
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i'm the OP btw
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Well. as God said in the Bible. Some vessels he made for use, some for destruction.
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god doesn't make vessels for destruction Apollo. What a disgusting statement. Still putting god up in the sky someplace? Get rid of that ugly avatar. You said is represented the angry god. God is not that way.
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You've never read the old testament have you?
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Very interesting. You put words to my thoughts. I've noticed this too on some adults but also in children (2 relatives, boys age 10 and 12). Their eyes are empty, they are completely functional, average intelligence, bodily functions fine but there is that *something* missing deep inside them... I mean, they are fine but other than play videogames and interact when needed they are mostly like automats... one is currently taking meds for add and the other is not but still it amazes me the lack of **life*spirit*fire*spark** this humans have... I noticed that but never thought anything other than they were the product of their parents but now this theory adds an interesting twist to this situation...
Why do you think this is happening? are they some other dimension beings or just too self absorbed and egocentric?
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Too self absorbed and egocentric. Good verbiage! The phenomenon seems more and more prevalent. Robots almost.
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