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Experiences imprint and mold each person. Some have vastly different experiences throughout life as the person next to them, which doesn't mean the ones with less experiences are soulless- they just haven't had the opportunity to test themselves or been put through the fires of life and tested or purified.

Also, fear plays a huge part in the way people are. Usually the fearful- (and ALL fear stems from fear of death), are the ones who seem soulless.

As C.S. Lewis said, "You don't have a soul, you are a soul. You have a body."

Just my 2 cents.
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Also, a distinction should be made between the soul and spirit.

The spirit is our life-force that is eternal. It is swayed to and fro between good and evil by our soul- the soul being our consciousness and attached freewill.

So you see, everyone has both a spirit and soul.

Use your soul to dictate where your spirit ends-up in the end- either with the Creator of spirits, or separate from Him.
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Animals no spirit?

Fuck THAT shit!
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spirit = eternal, individualized, self-aware core of consciousness. The thing that reincarnates and is never destroyed.

soul = the etheric and astral bodies, that interface the spirit to the body.

You can have a body with just a soul but no spirit. That's what the article in the OP talks about.

Except for the tip top of the animals (bonobos, dolphins, whales, certain advanced dogs and cat pets, etc...), animals generally have no spirit, only souls. However, according to the occult investigations of Rudolf Steiner, animals do have spirit but only as a whole species. So whereas humans might have a spirit for each person, rabbits might have a spirit for the whole rabbit species. Not until an animal individuates away from this group spirit does it acquire its own, and thus become ripe for incarnation as a spirited human.
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50% of "humans" on this planet are not ensouled, they are automatons/robotoids. This is a creation of the dark masters of this world in underground labs as servent people. they do reproduce but cannot house an incarnating soul. Basic animal form. They do not develop a causal body. Some if they happen chance to learn to actually think, may receive a Father Fragment. about 10% do. If they do, which is never as children, you will see a new light in their eyes and the human journey is born. They will develop a causal body then.
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I think they're called Trans-human and these are the bodies the fallen angels will go into when they come. Bodies that are created by men in laboratories but have no soul. Soon.

200 million man army that goes to war with Christ are going to be trans-human. Thomas Horn has has researched into this and has several You Tube videos on this subject.
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There is no 'level 2' with sociopaths, they just have the shallow social mask, there's no depth to them.
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spirit = eternal, individualized, self-aware core of consciousness. The thing that reincarnates and is never destroyed.

soul = the etheric and astral bodies, that interface the spirit to the body.

You can have a body with just a soul but no spirit. That's what the article in the OP talks about.

Except for the tip top of the animals (bonobos, dolphins, whales, certain advanced dogs and cat pets, etc...), animals generally have no spirit, only souls. However, according to the occult investigations of Rudolf Steiner, animals do have spirit but only as a whole species. So whereas humans might have a spirit for each person, rabbits might have a spirit for the whole rabbit species. Not until an animal individuates away from this group spirit does it acquire its own, and thus become ripe for incarnation as a spirited human.
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That i feel rings more truth to it.

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favoriting this thread, so much to think about!
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In his book, "Gnosis," Eastern Orthodox Christian mystic Boris Mouravieff wrote of the "pre-Adamic" races.

He said, if I remember correctly, that these were not ensouled humans, but that they existed to act as the "tares" against the "wheat" of God's children. They are here to torment, persecute, try and tempt the ensouled "Adamic" race.

I've read that they exist in all races, all families, all groups of people...and that even they are not aware of what they truly are.

This pretty much sums up how I see many people. Completely without souls. I'm talking about people who commit atrocities against life and love and honor.

This ranges from world leaders and their genocidal agendas which have played themselves out in cycles throughout history....to the young mother who abuses and harms her little children.

All races. All religious/cultural backgrounds. All nations.

No souls whatsoever.
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they also have no conscious, they do not feel what others feel when you hurt someone
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The problem with people today is that the guff is empty. WE have a planet full of souless people.

The hall of souls is called the guff. It is a repository of all souls- It is said that when the last soul is used, the Apocalypse will follow.
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Really, you get your quotes from Hollywood....
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85% of the human population are animal souls housed by human bodies, otherwise known as "minion incarnations". they just follow instincts and have little to no self-awareness. they eat shit, sleep , procreate and follow their masters / owners.

and then there are those people from the Elite bloodlines that work as organic portals for an alien / luciferian consciousness.

Finally there are us, spirited humans, nearing only 8% of the population I would say.
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i believe that i have/i am spirit, however i am not aware of it sometimes or it is supressed.
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Yes but sometimes you are aware of it and the very fact that you find yourself drawn to these subject matters indicates that your true 'inner self' is begging to be unleashed inside you. Keep an open mind and be patient and you will be taken back by what unfolds inside you.

Thanks so much for sharing this article here... It's blowing my mind right now....

hf
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Very interesting. You put words to my thoughts. I've noticed this too on some adults but also in children (2 relatives, boys age 10 and 12). Their eyes are empty, they are completely functional, average intelligence, bodily functions fine but there is that *something* missing deep inside them... I mean, they are fine but other than play videogames and interact when needed they are mostly like automats... one is currently taking meds for add and the other is not but still it amazes me the lack of **life*spirit*fire*spark** this humans have... I noticed that but never thought anything other than they were the product of their parents but now this theory adds an interesting twist to this situation...
Why do you think this is happening? are they some other dimension beings or just too self absorbed and egocentric?
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50% of "humans" on this planet are not ensouled, they are automatons/robotoids. This is a creation of the dark masters of this world in underground labs as servent people. they do reproduce but cannot house an incarnating soul. Basic animal form. They do not develop a causal body. Some if they happen chance to learn to actually think, may receive a Father Fragment. about 10% do. If they do, which is never as children, you will see a new light in their eyes and the human journey is born. They will develop a causal body then.
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You know this is a very intriguing thought NiP. I watch a lot of programming that features accounts of individuals who experienced Near-Death-Experiences.... I have listened to a few accounts, and also heard this mentioned by some individuals who investigate this phenomena, but they report that a very small percentage of people who experience NDE's are thrust into a dark place - what they can only describe as 'hell'. But it's the experience of being shown that existence that moves them, and when they return to their physical bodies, they now have that 'spark' in their eyes and a new consciousness with which to approach life. I get the sense from some of the NDE accounts in which this happened, that the individuals who experienced this, were never truly or inherently 'evil' people - but they just needed a good kick in the spiritual rear-end to get them to wake up and start taking the right path.

Very interesting.
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I often say, there are humans that look like a human but are not human. This is what I mean.

These creatures are a predator in human form that will turn on humans when ordered by the matrix zombie machine.

They can be found in positions of authority where they will be protected by the system that created them. Cops, politicians, doctors, and higher educational institutions.

Have you ever wondered how some people can get away with so much shit and not get fired or challenged, yet, you maybe held in contempt for the lamest littlest infraction and if one of these creatures has your future in their hands, they will crush you.

Its everywhere. They rule us and drop us at there slightest whim. They promote them and others like them to higher positions and better salaries while you, who know how it goes and makes whatever it takes to move the world, are stepped on and forgotten.

I have known and seen this for a very long time.
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spirit = eternal, individualized, self-aware core of consciousness. The thing that reincarnates and is never destroyed.

soul = the etheric and astral bodies, that interface the spirit to the body.

You can have a body with just a soul but no spirit. That's what the article in the OP talks about.

Except for the tip top of the animals (bonobos, dolphins, whales, certain advanced dogs and cat pets, etc...), animals generally have no spirit, only souls. However, according to the occult investigations of Rudolf Steiner, animals do have spirit but only as a whole species. So whereas humans might have a spirit for each person, rabbits might have a spirit for the whole rabbit species. Not until an animal individuates away from this group spirit does it acquire its own, and thus become ripe for incarnation as a spirited human.
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I have a question for you. Your post says , "animals do have spirit but only as a whole species. So whereas humans might have a spirit for each person, rabbits might have a spirit for the whole rabbit species. Not until an animal individuates away from this group spirit does it acquire its own, and thus become ripe for incarnation as a spirited human.
If, and that is a big IF the 100th Monkey syndrome is true, and that 1st monkey washed their sweet potatoe, a break from the norm, did that monkey in that instance glimpse or become at one with their spirit?
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In his book, "Gnosis," Eastern Orthodox Christian mystic Boris Mouravieff wrote of the "pre-Adamic" races.

He said, if I remember correctly, that these were not ensouled humans, but that they existed to act as the "tares" against the "wheat" of God's children. They are here to torment, persecute, try and tempt the ensouled "Adamic" race.

I've read that they exist in all races, all families, all groups of people...and that even they are not aware of what they truly are.

This pretty much sums up how I see many people. Completely without souls. I'm talking about people who commit atrocities against life and love and honor.

This ranges from world leaders and their genocidal agendas which have played themselves out in cycles throughout history....to the young mother who abuses and harms her little children.

All races. All religious/cultural backgrounds. All nations.

No souls whatsoever.
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amazing post. so much food for thought... You know, throughout history , people have said, " where did so and so come from", now I see. Thank you for the info
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In his book, "Gnosis," Eastern Orthodox Christian mystic Boris Mouravieff wrote of the "pre-Adamic" races.

He said, if I remember correctly, that these were not ensouled humans, but that they existed to act as the "tares" against the "wheat" of God's children. They are here to torment, persecute, try and tempt the ensouled "Adamic" race.

I've read that they exist in all races, all families, all groups of people...and that even they are not aware of what they truly are.

This pretty much sums up how I see many people. Completely without souls. I'm talking about people who commit atrocities against life and love and honor.

This ranges from world leaders and their genocidal agendas which have played themselves out in cycles throughout history....to the young mother who abuses and harms her little children.

All races. All religious/cultural backgrounds. All nations.

No souls whatsoever.
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amazing post. so much food for thought... You know, throughout history , people have said, " where did so and so come from", now I see. Thank you for the info
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You are very welcome. BTW - "Gnosis" was written in three parts.

Also - I've seen references in other mystic writings about this very same thing. I can't say that it is all factual, but it sure does make a whole lotta sense, you know?

Don't we always say to each other, (upon hearing news of human atrocity), "what a monster!" Or "How could anyone do that..." etc.

It is even entrenched in our culture to call a barbarian who commits atrocity against fellow-humans "soulless."

This is my take on it. I'm well-aware that there is a possibility that it could be wrong. But the mystics - and their writings, have been around for a while. And most of society is unaware of what has been written by them.
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The problem with people today is that the guff is empty. WE have a planet full of souless people.

The hall of souls is called the guff. It is a repository of all souls- It is said that when the last soul is used, the Apocalypse will follow.
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In many ways, this souless state is very much like the zombies we see on the silver screen..

"Life" once again imitates art
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^THIS!!^
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Very interesting. You put words to my thoughts. I've noticed this too on some adults but also in children (2 relatives, boys age 10 and 12). Their eyes are empty, they are completely functional, average intelligence, bodily functions fine but there is that *something* missing deep inside them... I mean, they are fine but other than play videogames and interact when needed they are mostly like automats... one is currently taking meds for add and the other is not but still it amazes me the lack of **life*spirit*fire*spark** this humans have... I noticed that but never thought anything other than they were the product of their parents but now this theory adds an interesting twist to this situation...
Why do you think this is happening? are they some other dimension beings or just too self absorbed and egocentric?
1dunno1
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50% of "humans" on this planet are not ensouled, they are automatons/robotoids. This is a creation of the dark masters of this world in underground labs as servent people. they do reproduce but cannot house an incarnating soul. Basic animal form. They do not develop a causal body. Some if they happen chance to learn to actually think, may receive a Father Fragment. about 10% do. If they do, which is never as children, you will see a new light in their eyes and the human journey is born. They will develop a causal body then.
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I disagree. You are either created with "Father Fragment" or not. It's in your DNA/RNA.
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Shit like this is why I come to GLP. Fucking A, you have to weed through so much nonsense to find a gem or two.

Thanks OP.
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Exactly! Which is why so many individuals get frustrated having to sift through the non-stop religious arguments and race bashing. These types of threads here are a gold mind of information for expanding your consciousness and challenging your perception of yourself and everything around you.
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WOW ! where did you get all this info NIP? can you post some links for further reading? and what is a "causal" body?

Another thing I've noticed on these boys is that they are unable to feel *empathy*, i mean, they cry and all but is like they don't really connect with other peoples emotions, they are not cruel either (thank goodness!) but they don't connect or understand what feelings/suffering/sorrow is even when this is coming from their closest loved ones... more like indifferent and oblivious... makes sense?

BTW: this is a very interesting topic, thank you for sharing it!

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Yes that puzzles me too! You can feel sadness & pain in a selfish sense, like you are sad for the consequences that you created for yourself with your misguided actions, but then you can also feel sadness & pain in an empathetic sense, when you realize how your misguided actions have affected others. In one sense you are identifying with your ego and in the other sense you are identifying with your heart.

I watch a lot of police interrogations of homicide suspects and I am so intrigued when you see them break down and start crying in the interview room. I always wonder if they are crying because they are sad for themselves and the consequences or implications of their actions as it relates to their future (incarceration or death penalty), or are they said because they connected with their heart and realized how their actions created unnecessary pain and suffering for others?

Maybe those who cannot feel empathy are the 'astral flak'.
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Ive got to laugh at all these channelers telling us about ascension,the divine has already evacuated most viable consciousness whats coming isn't ascension I can guarantee that.
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Khnum, an Egyptian god of creation? Do you know something that you would like to share? Or rather, would you share what you know.. Cliff notes will be just fine thank you.
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I can guarantee to you, ascension IS coming and the biggest evacuation of the crude of this world is yet to come although some of it is gone. The world will need to be further cleansed as ascension is dependent also on god knowing souls.

Those of us who are very advanced souls are never IN our bodies anyway, it is not possible, we are merely linked to them, and no evacuation is necessary. we are not our bodies.
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Hi NiP... When you take the time to communicate your thoughts like this, you completely flip the script on the way that you're information is received... How come you don't always go into the detail necessary to get your point across? cool2

Can you elaborate about the bolded please. What is to become of the 'advanced souls' if there is no evacuation for them? Do they just live out the remainder of their physical incarnations?
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Thank you so much for this amazing thread.
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Etheric aliens and transcended humans:

etheric | astral | spirit

MY SOUL WILL ASCEND!!!!!

MY ASCENDED SELF HAS SAID SO!!!!!!!!!!
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every single last one of the quotes that were made by great change bringers, will never be anythingmore if we all dont use them in action as well~Yoninah Yisrael

see you all in 5 D, learn to use your tonal Hiram Key. we all have it, the powers that dont be isnt going to tell us anything. live love learn but most of all ascend!!!!!

God is conscious living energy called thought. thought lives in every one of us. so shouldnt that say something more about life?

the animals can understand God with us, the agreeable extra dimensional beings can understand, why cant we>?

and last but not least

only the stouthearted and strong-minded will survive the great red dragon and the destruction that it brings. ~kolbrin bible manuscripts

purify and transmute~ancient of days
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Interesting thread. And cant say Ive ever met someone who was "soul less" also can say I dont care too. People who arent sociopaths can already bad enough!
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Ive got to laugh at all these channelers telling us about ascension,the divine has already evacuated most viable consciousness whats coming isn't ascension I can guarantee that.
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Khnum, an Egyptian god of creation? Do you know something that you would like to share? Or rather, would you share what you know.. Cliff notes will be just fine thank you.
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I can guarantee to you, ascension IS coming and the biggest evacuation of the crude of this world is yet to come although some of it is gone. The world will need to be further cleansed as ascension is dependent also on god knowing souls.

Those of us who are very advanced souls are never IN our bodies anyway, it is not possible, we are merely linked to them, and no evacuation is necessary. we are not our bodies.
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Hi NiP... When you take the time to communicate your thoughts like this, you completely flip the script on the way that you're information is received... How come you don't always go into the detail necessary to get your point across? cool2

Can you elaborate about the bolded please. What is to become of the 'advanced souls' if there is no evacuation for them? Do they just live out the remainder of their physical incarnations?
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they can get out of here on their own,don't need physical craft. Their higher self is in not engaged IN this world or their body. they will just drop the body and be gone, can board ship in the beams minus the body if they want too. depends on the soul structure.

as to what I do, I guess it depends on the time, my focus and higher connection or "not" at the time etc. And who I am talking to. Different people get different answers to similar questions. Questions were of a more advanced nature in this thread I guess. And got my attention. If I am very in my higher mind, the stuff just flows if needed. Actually considering our website troubles this weekend I am surprised at the focus here today and yesterday too, but then again there are good discussions.





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