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BREAKING Russian Superjet-100 disappears in Indonesia during demo - Dozens of VIPs On-Board!!

 
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*board. he said the phone rings, but the sms are not delivered. weird.
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Mount Salak has a good elevation at 7,700 feet. Good place to put a bunker within the mountain if one believed that a high elevation would be beneficial in avoiding an earth-related catastrophe.

Everyone should go and look again at the threads with all of the sudden retirements of CEO's, politicians, etc.

Also, a lot of the passengers were SKY news execs. Wouldn't they have a good reason to get out of town a little early? Don't want to be in a jail cell when "it" happens.

Think back to that Enron guy. Ken Lay. Convicted, but "died" before sentencing. Riiiiight.

They've been leaving town for a long time now.
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Well...what is strange is, if there were mechanical or fuel shortage problems, don't you think that the pilot would have sent a radio message back to the control tower?

Don't you think that one of those execs would have not send a message back home?
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Mount Salak has a good elevation at 7,700 feet. Good place to put a bunker within the mountain if one believed that a high elevation would be beneficial in avoiding an earth-related catastrophe.

Everyone should go and look again at the threads with all of the sudden retirements of CEO's, politicians, etc.

Also, a lot of the passengers were SKY news execs. Wouldn't they have a good reason to get out of town a little early? Don't want to be in a jail cell when "it" happens.

Think back to that Enron guy. Ken Lay. Convicted, but "died" before sentencing. Riiiiight.

They've been leaving town for a long time now.
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You guys are reaching. This flight was a sales pitch about how great the plane is and "you should put your order in now for 6, we'll have them delivered by this time next year."

Unfortunately, the plane crashed.
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the people on this plane were not part of the Elite, nor will they ever be...

ordinary people

bleh...
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Superjet International released a statement..

[link to www.superjetinternational.com]
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Hmmm so they say no report of mechanical problems BEFORE radar lost contact. But doesn't say anything about why the aircraft was out 40 minutes longer than it was suppose to be at that final contact time they had with the ground. Just strange, if that timeline is indeed accurate.
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UH OH! Looks like the timeline "TIME OF LAST CONTACT" is changing... at least in the press.




The Indonesian Search and Rescue Agency chief, Vice Marshal Daryatmo told The Jakarta Post ...

He said the last contact was made at about 2:33 p.m. Jakarta time (GMT +7) ... .

Meanwhile, the Russian Embassy’s press attaché, Dmitri Solodov told the Post that the aircraft was on its second demo flight when its signal was lost from the radar. ... Russian news agency RIA Novosti reported that the pilots had requested permission to descend from 10,000 feet (3,000 meters) to 6,000 feet quoting air traffic controllers. “After it was cleared for descent the plane started turning right and descending but then disappeared from the radar screens at an altitude of 6,200 feet in a mountainous area, about 40 nautical miles from Jakarta airport,” the news agency said. “By the time the plane was due to return it should have burned up its fuel.” ....

He said the aircraft took off from Halim at about 2:21 p.m. and did not make radio contact with Husein Sastranegara’s tower.

[link to www.thejakartapost.com]
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Superjet International released a statement..

[link to www.superjetinternational.com]
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Hmmm so they say no report of mechanical problems BEFORE radar lost contact. But doesn't say anything about why the aircraft was out 40 minutes longer than it was suppose to be at that final contact time they had with the ground. Just strange, if that timeline is indeed accurate.
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UH OH! Looks like the timeline "TIME OF LAST CONTACT" is changing... at least in the press.




The Indonesian Search and Rescue Agency chief, Vice Marshal Daryatmo told The Jakarta Post ...

He said the last contact was made at about 2:33 p.m. Jakarta time (GMT +7) ... .

Meanwhile, the Russian Embassy’s press attaché, Dmitri Solodov told the Post that the aircraft was on its second demo flight when its signal was lost from the radar. ... Russian news agency RIA Novosti reported that the pilots had requested permission to descend from 10,000 feet (3,000 meters) to 6,000 feet quoting air traffic controllers. “After it was cleared for descent the plane started turning right and descending but then disappeared from the radar screens at an altitude of 6,200 feet in a mountainous area, about 40 nautical miles from Jakarta airport,” the news agency said. “By the time the plane was due to return it should have burned up its fuel.” ....

He said the aircraft took off from Halim at about 2:21 p.m. and did not make radio contact with Husein Sastranegara’s tower.

[link to www.thejakartapost.com]
 Quoting: Freckles


Anyone else think it weird that they lost contact just 12 minutes into the flight?
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Not to be too cynical,, I'm thinking the pilot may have been wearing the "new" CIA issued underwear bomb? Available soon , at all gift shps and outlet stores near you.. Oh my...violin
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Any source on your numbers buddy?
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yes. russian ITAR TASS agency and a person form the company.
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Do you mind providing a link?
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[link to www.google.com]
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Don't wanna be a pain in the ass but Indonesian news keep saying the plane had 44 people onboard. Some say 46, but not 50.

The reason is, every new aircraft, the Sukhoi often invite people to participate in the flight. Meanwhile, it's, news agency RIA Novosti at 14:09 pm said the plane was carrying 44 people, consisting of eight Russian and 36 foreign nationals.
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TRIBUNNEWS.COM, JAKARTA - The plane was named Russia's Sukhoi Superjet 100 is doing a demo flight disappeared from radar.

Russian news agency RIA Novosti reported at 14:09 pm, the plane was carrying 44 people, consisting of eight Russian and 36 foreign nationals. Otherwise the aircraft failed to return to the departure airport, after flying around the air demonstration in Jakarta.
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If it crashed it could be seen for miles. Fire causes smoke and I"m sure that the airliner would send up a pretty good sized smoke plum that would be highly visible.
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If it was low on fuel the explosion if any would be minimized + nobody lives in huge areas of those mountains. With any explosion it could be easily dismissed as thunder, and there's a huge amount there.
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It would have enough fuel to ignite all the rubber and plastic in the plane for it to burn. To mention upholstry and paint etc.

This plane has GPS on board which is followed by Satellite. It would be a general location to where the GPS signal was cut off. I'm sure the helicopter they sent up could find it pretty quick since this was a demo flight and not something that was going across the world.
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Lucky? Or Mischievous? "...some of the invitees failed to go on board..."



“We have the passengers’ list, but we have to double check since some of the invitees failed to go on board and some others, who are on board, are not listed in the invitee list,” Sunaryo said.

[link to www.thejakartapost.com]
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The Passenger List still may not be 100% perfect.
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"will now descend to so you can get some photographs of the beautiful valley between the mountains...... whoop whoop! pull up!"

sound of impact

(end of recording)

Why else descend?
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"will now descend to so you can get some photographs of the beautiful valley between the mountains...... whoop whoop! pull up!"

sound of impact

(end of recording)

Why else descend?
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Oh my gosh! Exactly what I was thinking too. Ugh! Wonder if they will ever find one of those media folks cameras, still working?
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If it crashed it could be seen for miles. Fire causes smoke and I"m sure that the airliner would send up a pretty good sized smoke plum that would be highly visible.
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If it was low on fuel the explosion if any would be minimized + nobody lives in huge areas of those mountains. With any explosion it could be easily dismissed as thunder, and there's a huge amount there.
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It would have enough fuel to ignite all the rubber and plastic in the plane for it to burn. To mention upholstry and paint etc.

This plane has GPS on board which is followed by Satellite. It would be a general location to where the GPS signal was cut off. I'm sure the helicopter they sent up could find it pretty quick since this was a demo flight and not something that was going across the world.
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I guess you're not too familiar with the terrain in that region...
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Mount Salak has a good elevation at 7,700 feet. Good place to put a bunker within the mountain if one believed that a high elevation would be beneficial in avoiding an earth-related catastrophe.

Everyone should go and look again at the threads with all of the sudden retirements of CEO's, politicians, etc.

Also, a lot of the passengers were SKY news execs. Wouldn't they have a good reason to get out of town a little early? Don't want to be in a jail cell when "it" happens.

Think back to that Enron guy. Ken Lay. Convicted, but "died" before sentencing. Riiiiight.

They've been leaving town for a long time now.
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You guys are reaching. This flight was a sales pitch about how great the plane is and "you should put your order in now for 6, we'll have them delivered by this time next year."

Unfortunately, the plane crashed.
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^^This^^

Guy's, I know it's a conspiracy site, but a plane crashed, and a Russian one of that, let's just hope for 1 of 2 things, either tree canopies cushioned the crash and everyone is found in the morning gathered round a campfire singing kumbyarr, or it hit the mountain at such a great speed in thick fog that nobody knew anything about it. Either way, my thoughts are with the friends and families.

But a plane crashed, don't try to make more of it.
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"will now descend to so you can get some photographs of the beautiful valley between the mountains...... whoop whoop! pull up!"

sound of impact

(end of recording)

Why else descend?
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Maybe the Media Folks didn't turn off their cell phones, like they are SUPPOSED TO, and they interfered with the Airplane's computer. Wouldn't that just suck?
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"will now descend to so you can get some photographs of the beautiful valley between the mountains...... whoop whoop! pull up!"

sound of impact

(end of recording)

Why else descend?
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Oh my gosh! Exactly what I was thinking too. Ugh! Wonder if they will ever find one of those media folks cameras, still working?
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Indeed, I would say this is most likely the outcome. Such a horrid shame.
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Mount Salak has a good elevation at 7,700 feet. Good place to put a bunker within the mountain if one believed that a high elevation would be beneficial in avoiding an earth-related catastrophe.

Everyone should go and look again at the threads with all of the sudden retirements of CEO's, politicians, etc.

Also, a lot of the passengers were SKY news execs. Wouldn't they have a good reason to get out of town a little early? Don't want to be in a jail cell when "it" happens.

Think back to that Enron guy. Ken Lay. Convicted, but "died" before sentencing. Riiiiight.

They've been leaving town for a long time now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967614


You guys are reaching. This flight was a sales pitch about how great the plane is and "you should put your order in now for 6, we'll have them delivered by this time next year."

Unfortunately, the plane crashed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1204627


^^This^^

Guy's, I know it's a conspiracy site, but a plane crashed, and a Russian one of that, let's just hope for 1 of 2 things, either tree canopies cushioned the crash and everyone is found in the morning gathered round a campfire singing kumbyarr, or it hit the mountain at such a great speed in thick fog that nobody knew anything about it. Either way, my thoughts are with the friends and families.

But a plane crashed, don't try to make more of it.
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I'm pullin' for the "campfire" scenario you laid out.
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Hang on, was John Travolta flying it? Maybe he was too busy in the other pilots groin to notice the mountain.
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Mount Salak has a good elevation at 7,700 feet. Good place to put a bunker within the mountain if one believed that a high elevation would be beneficial in avoiding an earth-related catastrophe.

Everyone should go and look again at the threads with all of the sudden retirements of CEO's, politicians, etc.

Also, a lot of the passengers were SKY news execs. Wouldn't they have a good reason to get out of town a little early? Don't want to be in a jail cell when "it" happens.

Think back to that Enron guy. Ken Lay. Convicted, but "died" before sentencing. Riiiiight.

They've been leaving town for a long time now.
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You guys are reaching. This flight was a sales pitch about how great the plane is and "you should put your order in now for 6, we'll have them delivered by this time next year."

Unfortunately, the plane crashed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1204627


^^This^^

Guy's, I know it's a conspiracy site, but a plane crashed, and a Russian one of that, let's just hope for 1 of 2 things, either tree canopies cushioned the crash and everyone is found in the morning gathered round a campfire singing kumbyarr, or it hit the mountain at such a great speed in thick fog that nobody knew anything about it. Either way, my thoughts are with the friends and families.

But a plane crashed, don't try to make more of it.
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I'm pullin' for the "campfire" scenario you laid out.
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Me too, poor buggers.
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Seriously... People are still doubting it IS an Illuminati shit??

Mount Salak elevation: 2,211 m
Plane lost contact with air traffic controllers at 2:12 p.m., 21 minutes after taking off,
Current year: 2012

As long as there's no confirmation of the exact number of people onboard, I'll leave the 33 + 11 of 44, out of the equation, but don't you think a little bit odd this persistent repetition of the bold digits above???

Smells dark kabbalah all the way...

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For all haters of Russian planes out there:

Boeing 727
built: 1832 since 1963
crashed to written off: 90

Tupolev 154
built: ~1050 since 1968
crashed to be written off: 69
5 of those during the last 4 years

So I won't say that Russian made aircraft are less safe than a common Boeing.
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Mount Salak has a good elevation at 7,700 feet. Good place to put a bunker within the mountain if one believed that a high elevation would be beneficial in avoiding an earth-related catastrophe.

Everyone should go and look again at the threads with all of the sudden retirements of CEO's, politicians, etc.

Also, a lot of the passengers were SKY news execs. Wouldn't they have a good reason to get out of town a little early? Don't want to be in a jail cell when "it" happens.

Think back to that Enron guy. Ken Lay. Convicted, but "died" before sentencing. Riiiiight.

They've been leaving town for a long time now.
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You guys are reaching. This flight was a sales pitch about how great the plane is and "you should put your order in now for 6, we'll have them delivered by this time next year."

Unfortunately, the plane crashed.
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Right. And this "demo" just HAD to take place in a remote island mountain range. Look at a map of Java. Why the FUCK would a bunch of VIP's from different countries ALL go to a remote island mountain range for a "demo" of a Russian airplane.
The denial is strong with some.
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Current time there is 1:28 AM and the sun comes up at 5:53 AM so S and R will be out in about 4 hours.

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For all haters of Russian planes out there:

Boeing 727
built: 1832 since 1963
crashed to written off: 90

Tupolev 154
built: ~1050 since 1968
crashed to be written off: 69
5 of those during the last 4 years

So I won't say that Russian made aircraft are less safe than a common Boeing.
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I don't think anyone is referring to the safety of the jet, I'm sure it's very safe.

The fact is the pilot requested permission to descend into mountainous terrain he was unfamiliar with.
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The supposed "bad weather we can't get to the crash site" is total BS

Look at the weather radar for Jakarta (Crash site is only 50 km away)

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For all haters of Russian planes out there:

Boeing 727
built: 1832 since 1963
crashed to written off: 90

Tupolev 154
built: ~1050 since 1968
crashed to be written off: 69
5 of those during the last 4 years

So I won't say that Russian made aircraft are less safe than a common Boeing.
 Quoting: northerntomcat


I don't think anyone is referring to the safety of the jet, I'm sure it's very safe.

The fact is the pilot requested permission to descend into mountainous terrain he was unfamiliar with.
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Ya and the ATC gave it to him. I think there is an ATC guy shitting his pants right now.
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The most likely reason for their request to descend to 6000 feet would be that they planned to set down inside the large crater and off-load passengers.

This "new" plane could have even had some alterations specifically for this purpose.
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For all haters of Russian planes out there:

Boeing 727
built: 1832 since 1963
crashed to written off: 90

Tupolev 154
built: ~1050 since 1968
crashed to be written off: 69
5 of those during the last 4 years

So I won't say that Russian made aircraft are less safe than a common Boeing.
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No, Russia has made some awesome planes... quite a few copies, but decent none the less. I see 154's taking off almost daily, bloody noisy though!