| Users Online Now: 1,364 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 14,647 | |
| Pageviews Today: 28,263 | Threads Today: 15 | Posts Today: 160 |
| 12:15 AM | ||
| Users Online Now: 1,364 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 14,647 | |
| Pageviews Today: 28,263 | Threads Today: 15 | Posts Today: 160 |
| 12:15 AM | ||
The great flood of the days of Noah could NOT be physically possible! | |
| ajk Offer Upgrade  User ID: 1114631  United States05/09/2012 07:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| BadMoonRising User ID: 727864  United Kingdom05/09/2012 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| 90milessgroomlake User ID: 7594251 United States05/09/2012 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you explain the grand canyon? If the top of the canyon is 1000s of feet higher than the top of the colorado river, how did it form? How come there are no erosion marks between strata in the canyon? How do you explain polystrate fossils? end thread/ |
| DANE User ID: 1458567  Denmark05/09/2012 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can explain it...the ice got the earth to tip, suddenly allot ice was in hot places, and hot places was in cold places or mix around, then u also got the explanation for the mammoth the found with frozen, like it was frozen in a split second..... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1627095 United States05/09/2012 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| DANE User ID: 1458567 Denmark05/09/2012 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1149868  Germany05/09/2012 07:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ajk (OP) User ID: 1114631 United States05/09/2012 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It makes SENSE that the entire known world back then could be completely and totally engulfed Quoting: ajk Fixed it for you. Prove it. You're gonna tell me mountains 10's of thousands of feet high, can somehow be covered by 22 feet?? Come on, use your brain dude. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States05/09/2012 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ajk (OP) User ID: 1114631 United States05/09/2012 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn it when will people realize the Bible is region specific when it refers to the world it is referring to the middle east the world known at the time of the writing to the writers of the book. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Oh really? Because your book you hold in such high esteem evidently says different. Observe: Genesis 7:4 "Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I have made.” 21:23 Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. You obviously don't know the Bible like you think you do. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15452659 United States05/09/2012 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13054977 United States05/09/2012 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Noah's flooding does not mean a complete flooding all over the lands... Anyway, it may have happened at the end of Ice Age 12,000 years ago. The sea level used to be 300-400 feet lower than what it is now. [link to www.iceagenow.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15771045  Australia05/09/2012 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States05/09/2012 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn it when will people realize the Bible is region specific when it refers to the world it is referring to the middle east the world known at the time of the writing to the writers of the book. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Oh really? Because your book you hold in such high esteem evidently says different. Observe: Genesis 7:4 "Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I have made.” 21:23 Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. You obviously don't know the Bible like you think you do. The "face of the earth" is only the middle east and every living thing except those in the ark were presumably wiped out. Now you can prove me wrong if you can find in the Bible anything that speaks of lands across the ocean or of distant shores other than the many nations within the middle east. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6639985 United States05/09/2012 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ajk (OP) User ID: 1114631 United States05/09/2012 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bible said it so it's true. End of story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15771045 God does not lie, and the bible is the living word of God. And you know this how? Exactly, you don't, you just assume it because that's what you were told. Assuming makes an ass of you and me. Use your head, you were given it for a reason. If something doesn't make sense, there's usually a good reason, in this case it simply DOESN'T. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15774685 United States05/09/2012 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch this video, talks all about the stupidity of the idea the great flood that supposedly happened as told in the Bible: Quoting: ajk [link to www.youtube.com] One point it brings up among others, is the fact that the water was said to have risen 15 cubits high (Genesis 7:20). A cubit is foot and a half, so that means the water would have had a depth of 22 feet total. It makes NO SENSE that the entire world could be completely and totally engulfed, drowned with nothing at all left alive outside the ark, by water that only went that high. It would be physically impossible for that to occur. Thus one can deduce the great flood as told in the Bible could never have happened the way it is said to have, as it just does not work logically. It's time we stop accepting and start thinking. You swallow a horse= :Athiestism: ...........and choke on a gnat? |
| ajk (OP) User ID: 1114631 United States05/09/2012 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn it when will people realize the Bible is region specific when it refers to the world it is referring to the middle east the world known at the time of the writing to the writers of the book. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Oh really? Because your book you hold in such high esteem evidently says different. Observe: Genesis 7:4 "Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I have made.” 21:23 Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. You obviously don't know the Bible like you think you do. The "face of the earth" is only the middle east and every living thing except those in the ark were presumably wiped out. Now you can prove me wrong if you can find in the Bible anything that speaks of lands across the ocean or of distant shores other than the many nations within the middle east. Why would it not say that if that was the case? Is God so stupid that it's gonna tell us a great flood wiped the entire world out, but somehow forget the mention only the middle east is a part of that world? I somehow think not. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
| ajk (OP) User ID: 1114631 United States05/09/2012 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch this video, talks all about the stupidity of the idea the great flood that supposedly happened as told in the Bible: Quoting: ajk [link to www.youtube.com] One point it brings up among others, is the fact that the water was said to have risen 15 cubits high (Genesis 7:20). A cubit is foot and a half, so that means the water would have had a depth of 22 feet total. It makes NO SENSE that the entire world could be completely and totally engulfed, drowned with nothing at all left alive outside the ark, by water that only went that high. It would be physically impossible for that to occur. Thus one can deduce the great flood as told in the Bible could never have happened the way it is said to have, as it just does not work logically. It's time we stop accepting and start thinking. You swallow a horse= :Athiestism: ...........and choke on a gnat? You assume I'm an atheist, but I am not. Just because I don't believe in YOUR God doesn't mean I don't believe in a God. Your religion, your book does NOT and never has owned God or the creator. To suggest that is pure arrogance. Many people can and do believe in God, just a different one from you. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States05/09/2012 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn it when will people realize the Bible is region specific when it refers to the world it is referring to the middle east the world known at the time of the writing to the writers of the book. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Oh really? Because your book you hold in such high esteem evidently says different. Observe: Genesis 7:4 "Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I have made.” 21:23 Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. You obviously don't know the Bible like you think you do. The "face of the earth" is only the middle east and every living thing except those in the ark were presumably wiped out. Now you can prove me wrong if you can find in the Bible anything that speaks of lands across the ocean or of distant shores other than the many nations within the middle east. Why would it not say that if that was the case? Is God so stupid that it's gonna tell us a great flood wiped the entire world out, but somehow forget the mention only the middle east is a part of that world? I somehow think not. Well how could God forget to mention that there were distant lands across the ocean and not give specific info about these lands but give many details about the middle east? Did the rest of the world not matter to God? Even the primitive Norse and Roman Gods knew there were distant lands across the ocean and their texts make reference to these lands. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1725276 United States05/09/2012 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Besides that how are there 12,000 year old whale carcasses and shellfish found on mountain tops? Geology can't explain it unless they are 60 million years old. But 10 or 12 thousand? That's like yesterday. |
| Scuba7 User ID: 10375513 Australia05/09/2012 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch this video, talks all about the stupidity of the idea the great flood that supposedly happened as told in the Bible: Quoting: ajk It's time we stop accepting and start thinking. If all water is recycled (ie it cycles), then how could there be more water on the Earth, than there was, water on the Earth? Did a heap of water come from another planet to create the flood, and then suddenly dry up, and disappear out of our atmosphere? Plus, the ark was only 450 feet long, yet it held a billion animals, plus food?! Nah, not even believable. Do not take memories of what happened yesterday, into what might happen today. When love is your greatest weakness, you will be the strongest person in the world. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States05/09/2012 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch this video, talks all about the stupidity of the idea the great flood that supposedly happened as told in the Bible: Quoting: ajk It's time we stop accepting and start thinking. If all water is recycled (ie it cycles), then how could there be more water on the Earth, than there was, water on the Earth? Did a heap of water come from another planet to create the flood, and then suddenly dry up, and disappear out of our atmosphere? Plus, the ark was only 450 feet long, yet it held a billion animals, plus food?! Nah, not even believable. If the flood was centralized to the middle east it would be vast but plausible to fit all of the camels livestock etc. into a 450 foot boat. |
| Scuba7 User ID: 10375513 Australia05/09/2012 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bible said it so it's true. End of story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15771045 God does not lie, and the bible is the living word of God. Did God tell you that, or did God tell some guy, who told another guy, who told another guy, who eventually wrote it down, to have it rewritten, and translated, and then put in a book? Makes perfect sense that every person who had this information would have repeated each part, verbatim. Do not take memories of what happened yesterday, into what might happen today. When love is your greatest weakness, you will be the strongest person in the world. |
| ajk (OP) User ID: 1114631 United States05/09/2012 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch this video, talks all about the stupidity of the idea the great flood that supposedly happened as told in the Bible: Quoting: ajk It's time we stop accepting and start thinking. If all water is recycled (ie it cycles), then how could there be more water on the Earth, than there was, water on the Earth? Did a heap of water come from another planet to create the flood, and then suddenly dry up, and disappear out of our atmosphere? Plus, the ark was only 450 feet long, yet it held a billion animals, plus food?! Nah, not even believable. The guy touches on that too lol as to the animals, and also the fact this water supposedly held for 5 months lol. 22 feet of water not going anywhere for that long. Right lol. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15776098  Ireland05/09/2012 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ajk (OP) User ID: 1114631 United States05/09/2012 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ajk Oh really? Because your book you hold in such high esteem evidently says different. Observe: Genesis 7:4 "Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I have made.” 21:23 Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. You obviously don't know the Bible like you think you do. The "face of the earth" is only the middle east and every living thing except those in the ark were presumably wiped out. Now you can prove me wrong if you can find in the Bible anything that speaks of lands across the ocean or of distant shores other than the many nations within the middle east. Why would it not say that if that was the case? Is God so stupid that it's gonna tell us a great flood wiped the entire world out, but somehow forget the mention only the middle east is a part of that world? I somehow think not. Well how could God forget to mention that there were distant lands across the ocean and not give specific info about these lands but give many details about the middle east? Did the rest of the world not matter to God? Even the primitive Norse and Roman Gods knew there were distant lands across the ocean and their texts make reference to these lands. You're pretty much proving why the thing doesn't make sense now lol. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
| ajk (OP) User ID: 1114631 United States05/09/2012 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bible said it so it's true. End of story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15771045 God does not lie, and the bible is the living word of God. Did God tell you that, or did God tell some guy, who told another guy, who told another guy, who eventually wrote it down, to have it rewritten, and translated, and then put in a book? Makes perfect sense that every person who had this information would have repeated each part, verbatim. There's also the fact that these people who wrote the Bible wrote it THOUSANDS of years after the fact. That's somehow counting as eyewitness testimony? Not a chance that that works. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
| ajk (OP) User ID: 1114631 United States05/09/2012 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember that the planet is like 80% water. The continents, as big as they seem to you, barely rise above the surface of our massive oceans. Just because you can't fathom a force big enough to give a good slosh to the oceans doesn't mean it didn't happen. It would actually be very easy. And it would take months if not years to drain off. A minor galactic event would appear as a world wide flood to the simplistic human brain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1725276 Besides that how are there 12,000 year old whale carcasses and shellfish found on mountain tops? Geology can't explain it unless they are 60 million years old. But 10 or 12 thousand? That's like yesterday. Ok even if there WERE 12,000 year old carcasses, even THAT wouldn't mesh with the Bible because according to it the world is only about half that, or 6,000 years old. So that doesn't work either. And how would all that come from again....22 feet! There's no logical way to explain that, 22 feet is NOT gonna cover a mountain top 20,000 feet high. Last Edited by ajk on 05/09/2012 08:10 AM No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States05/09/2012 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 The "face of the earth" is only the middle east and every living thing except those in the ark were presumably wiped out. Now you can prove me wrong if you can find in the Bible anything that speaks of lands across the ocean or of distant shores other than the many nations within the middle east. Why would it not say that if that was the case? Is God so stupid that it's gonna tell us a great flood wiped the entire world out, but somehow forget the mention only the middle east is a part of that world? I somehow think not. Well how could God forget to mention that there were distant lands across the ocean and not give specific info about these lands but give many details about the middle east? Did the rest of the world not matter to God? Even the primitive Norse and Roman Gods knew there were distant lands across the ocean and their texts make reference to these lands. You're pretty much proving why the thing doesn't make sense now lol. Exactly the Bible was written by man for the lawless lands of the middle east it is no more the word of god than the stories from Norse mythology. The only reason the bible is so widely spread is that the doctrines of the bible say to spread the word or the gospel to everyone and convert the sinners. If the Norse beliefs held conversion to the same level we would all be praying to Thor. |
| ajk (OP) User ID: 1114631 United States05/09/2012 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ajk Why would it not say that if that was the case? Is God so stupid that it's gonna tell us a great flood wiped the entire world out, but somehow forget the mention only the middle east is a part of that world? I somehow think not. Well how could God forget to mention that there were distant lands across the ocean and not give specific info about these lands but give many details about the middle east? Did the rest of the world not matter to God? Even the primitive Norse and Roman Gods knew there were distant lands across the ocean and their texts make reference to these lands. You're pretty much proving why the thing doesn't make sense now lol. Exactly the Bible was written by man for the lawless lands of the middle east it is no more the word of god than the stories from Norse mythology. The only reason the bible is so widely spread is that the doctrines of the bible say to spread the word or the gospel to everyone and convert the sinners. If the Norse beliefs held conversion to the same level we would all be praying to Thor. It would have helped if you came right out with what your point was in your first post lol. But point taken in any case. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
