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Cars running at 70 mpg BANNED in the US by Fed Gvmt

 
Anonymous Coward
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Emission laws?
 Quoting: BRIEF


....ffs


How can a person be this braindead.....
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Here we have e checks but the next county over we don't.

Just putting this out there. I've been checking into moving to Uruguay and 9 times out of 10 my american made car will not make it past customs. Even a new one.
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This rabbit hole is even deeper than that. Its not even about the tax it is about the total package. The US energy policy is about consumption. We needed a certain consumption level to meet middle eastern purchases so the middle east would hold their end by buying US treasuries with the bulk of the money. Of course we would renig after a couple of decades, We limit domestic production to a trickle in anticipation for the dollar devaluation and send the Arabs and Persians back to riding camels in the desert. Oil is much higher now 200+ Dollars/Barrel. Our stupid saviors open the massive domestic wells and continue to charge 200+ barrel getting filthy rich. Europe get much better milage because they pay out their arse for fuel. If you own the car companies and the oil companies why would you offer so much good mileage as to destroy your oil company. Its all an illusion. Wake up.
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What Brian in the video touched upon was only the picture as sold to the public. We all know what drives these decisions. We all know why tax dollars have been misappropriated, funneled, lost and manipulated.

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05/09/2012 11:43 AM
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70mpg cars are quite common here

Basic BMW diesel engines are capable of that
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But the gas is much more expensive, so i'm thinking there's no big difference (We're all equally fucked).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255


That's not the point. Why aren't these cars available in the US?

Our high fuel prices are due to tax.
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You just answered your own question.. think about it.
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70mpg cars are quite common here

Basic BMW diesel engines are capable of that
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But the gas is much more expensive, so i'm thinking there's no big difference (We're all equally fucked).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255


That's not the point. Why aren't these cars available in the US?

Our high fuel prices are due to tax.
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Rabbit hole politics.
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In America, Corporations determine the direction of technology, and the degree of profit which is only benificial to them.

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05/09/2012 11:48 AM
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The US gallon is smaller than the Royal UK gallon. Here is a great article debunking this video. I one starred this thread since it is not true and my debunking article is from May 1.

[link to pesn.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1500980


no article debunks the video... go to VW's uk site... they post the mpg's there. you can use a simple conversion calculator to do the math.

vw has one vehicle that gets 70 mpg on the highway per a US gallon. also, they do not pollute more... what tptb try to con people on is CO2 gasses which are not pollution. otherwise these cars burn cleaner than their us counter parts because the use half the fuel amount. DUHHHHHHHHHH!!!

wake up sheeple.
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Emission laws?
 Quoting: BRIEF


....ffs


How can a person be this braindead.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15523705


Here we have e checks but the next county over we don't.

Just putting this out there. I've been checking into moving to Uruguay and 9 times out of 10 my american made car will not make it past customs. Even a new one.
 Quoting: seasidedaisy


Perhaps your vehicle is not accepted in Uruguay because it is too new or will cause you to stick out like a sore thumb and it would be safer to blend in by driving a vehicle manufactured or readily imported by Uruguay/.

February 10, 1969
Uruguay Says Olé To Cars
Among the 4,500 Model A Fords that to this day throb in geriatric contentment along the streets and roads of the little car-conserving South American country of Uruguay, there is one in Montevideo that is a particularly fine autumnal beauty. A lean and modest open touring car, it has been refinished in the gleaming maroon that it was born with 39 years ago in Detroit, but, barring tires, all its parts are original, even the unblemished chrome radiator. It was thus a pity, one day lately, when a freak, accident crumpled the shell of one of the headlights. After a moment's distress, though, the owner perked up and set out to scavenge an identical headlight from one of the city's auto junkyards. He failed to reckon the full measure of Uruguay's claim to fame as the world's leading border-to-border museum of living, breathing antique cars. "A 1930 Ford A!" exclaimed the junkman. "We haven't had any cars that new brought in here yet!"
[link to sportsillustrated.cnn.com]

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Emission laws?
 Quoting: BRIEF


....ffs


How can a person be this braindead.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15523705


It is at least partially true
The emissions laws have been used to make us burn more fuel to meet the emission standards
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This rabbit hole is even deeper than that. Its not even about the tax it is about the total package. The US energy policy is about consumption. We needed a certain consumption level to meet middle eastern purchases so the middle east would hold their end by buying US treasuries with the bulk of the money. Of course we would renig after a couple of decades, We limit domestic production to a trickle in anticipation for the dollar devaluation and send the Arabs and Persians back to riding camels in the desert. Oil is much higher now 200+ Dollars/Barrel. Our stupid saviors open the massive domestic wells and continue to charge 200+ barrel getting filthy rich. Europe get much better milage because they pay out their arse for fuel. If you own the car companies and the oil companies why would you offer so much good mileage as to destroy your oil company. Its all an illusion. Wake up.
 Quoting: stefanos 14185563


actually that is not the goal of tptb .... they are squeezing our economy and the middle/poor classes in order to weaken them to the point of conquering them. this is a stealth war/invasion and we are the target.

meanwhile BP is selling the spoils of the iraq war to china for $2 a barrel. its all about the fall of the usa.
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The US gallon is smaller than the Royal UK gallon. Here is a great article debunking this video. I one starred this thread since it is not true and my debunking article is from May 1.

[link to pesn.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1500980


no article debunks the video... go to VW's uk site... they post the mpg's there. you can use a simple conversion calculator to do the math.

vw has one vehicle that gets 70 mpg on the highway per a US gallon. also, they do not pollute more... what tptb try to con people on is CO2 gasses which are not pollution. otherwise these cars burn cleaner than their us counter parts because the use half the fuel amount. DUHHHHHHHHHH!!!

wake up sheeple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10153246


CO emissions are not the only standard NO emissions are the ones that cut fuel mileage
It is all politics and $$$$ as the adding of ethanol actually produces more emissions due to the reduction of mileage per gallon as well as emission of aldehydes which are not regulated and far worse for us and the environment.
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....ffs


How can a person be this braindead.....
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He works very very hard at it.
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None of you watched the video did you?
 Quoting: IRQ_1


Nope, don't think they did. The 70+mpg TDIs are 10% more pollutant per gallon, but half as pollutant per mile, when compared to their gasoline counterparts. Roads are (re)built via gasoline taxes, so going all super high fuel efficiency will leave most states broke and unable to maintain the road infrastructure. Or so their myth goes.
 Quoting: Buck Zander



thats the key here... half as pollutant per mile. and get this.. its not about the taxes... thats just a small part of it. in order for the communists to completely take over this country... they need to weaken us to the point we are consumed with survival.

this is all about conquest.
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You can blame the tree huggers and the EPA for all the stupid emission laws and the fact we haven't built a new refinery since the '70's...every piece of pollution control bullshit you strap to an engine and shove in the exhaust system robs it of fuel economy...
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He works very very hard at it.
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None of you watched the video did you?
 Quoting: IRQ_1


Nope, don't think they did. The 70+mpg TDIs are 10% more pollutant per gallon, but half as pollutant per mile, when compared to their gasoline counterparts. Roads are (re)built via gasoline taxes, so going all super high fuel efficiency will leave most states broke and unable to maintain the road infrastructure. Or so their myth goes.
 Quoting: Buck Zander



thats the key here... half as pollutant per mile. and get this.. its not about the taxes... thats just a small part of it. in order for the communists to completely take over this country... they need to weaken us to the point we are consumed with survival.

this is all about conquest.
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evidently
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check this out... the VW polo blue motion gets 91.1 mpg via UK gallons.

[link to www.volkswagen.co.uk]

now lets convert that: 91.1 uk gallons = 75.85 US gallons

[link to www.thecalculatorsite.com]

now remember these UK cars pollute half as much per mile. you people have been played.
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check this out... the VW polo blue motion gets 91.1 mpg via UK gallons.

[link to www.volkswagen.co.uk]

now lets convert that: 91.1 mpg* uk gallons = 75.85 mpg* US gallons

[link to www.thecalculatorsite.com]

now remember these UK cars pollute half as much per mile. you people have been played.
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mpg*
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I can't believe all you lazy SOB's that come on here and contribute to this thread, and it is so obvious that not a one of you have even watched the video that initiated the thread. You are a bunch of lazy worthless bitches. Get a life. The damn video explains all your dumbass questions.
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You are an idiot. must you cuss and insult people?
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I refuse to buy a new car until I can afford one that runs on electricity or clean fuels.
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if americans were to cut oil consumption by 40% to 60% this would collapse oil prices and goldman sachs traders would no longer be able to keep the artificially high prices at bubble levels.
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check this out... the VW polo blue motion gets 91.1 mpg via UK gallons.

[link to www.volkswagen.co.uk]

now lets convert that: 91.1 uk gallons = 75.85 US gallons

[link to www.thecalculatorsite.com]

now remember these UK cars pollute half as much per mile. you people have been played.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10153246


but but but

English miles are shorter than American miles, so there's no difference!

Debunked! Debunked!
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Emission laws?
 Quoting: BRIEF


....ffs


How can a person be this braindead.....
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He works very very hard at it.
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No, I think it just comes naturally.
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I refuse to buy a new car until I can afford one that runs on electricity or clean fuels.
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Oh good, how nice... those electric cars might as well be nuclear waste... there is no green way to break down those toxic batteries in those vehicles... I guess we could throw then in the ocean??
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Bear in mind, the gallons are different in the US compared to UK and everywhere else. 1 Imperial gallon = 1.2 US gallons. That will account for some of the difference.

Also, the USA models have 2.0 litre "clean diesel" engines, european have 1.6 litre "bluemotion". Besides fuel efficiency, the other difference is power. American cars always have torqy, more powerful motors because that's what sells. People would get into a typical 1.2 litre european car and compare it to a 2.4 litre USA car and say the other one sucked. Americans don't mind burning gas and will buy bigger motors, hence why everyone still drives big SUVs. In Europe, everyone drives tiny cars.

I'd say it's not a government conspiracy, but just marketing. If all people started buying only fuel efficient cars in USA, gas taxes would go up to pay for the roads - just like it is in Europe.

So, no conspiracy, just simple economics and marketing.
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I refuse to buy a new car until I can afford one that runs on electricity or clean fuels.
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If the price for electric cars comes down to a reasonable level, and distance improves, I'll buy one and charge it with my solar power, but if you just plug it into the grid you aren't accomplishing anything but putting more strain on our already crumbling electric grid.
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Emission laws?
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on a diesel ?
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Emission laws?
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on a diesel ?
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Yes


They have been putting catalytic converters on Diesels now for years...

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Americans are the sheep of the world...bend over bitches!
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Your already bent over, Just Stand Still and Take It Biatches.ohyeah
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check this out... the VW polo blue motion gets 91.1 mpg via UK gallons.

[link to www.volkswagen.co.uk]

now lets convert that: 91.1 uk gallons = 75.85 US gallons

[link to www.thecalculatorsite.com]

now remember these UK cars pollute half as much per mile. you people have been played.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10153246


but but but

English miles are shorter than American miles, so there's no difference!

Debunked! Debunked!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4702426


Sarcasm?
The two distances are the same
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Emission laws?
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on a diesel ?
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Yes


They have been putting catalytic converters on Diesels now for years...
 Quoting: BRIEF


It isn't just the cats it is also the soot emissions laws which are ridiculous in the US
People are trained in the us to complain about the smell and look of diesel exhaust
BRIEF
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Just wait until the EPA requires converters on our lawn mowers and weed eaters...it's coming







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