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Cars running at 70 mpg BANNED in the US by Fed Gvmt

 
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I refuse to buy a new car until I can afford one that runs on electricity or clean fuels.
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We haven't gone to war for oil either...


Is that what you tell yourself??? LOLOL!!


Name a war that we fought to take their oil.


Iraq. Get your head out of Fox News.


We don't take oil from Iraq...we buy it like everyone else...



so why is BP selling the communist chinese, iraqi oil for $2 per barrel?


I don't know they are but BP is British Petroleum and not American...


yes i know what bp stands for.. the question you should be asking is why a "british" company is basically giving the spoils of war to a communist country like china.

all the while, the usa has been raped to pay for these illegal wars.


Again, I don't know that to be true...personally I think we should take oil from Iraq, but we will never allow it.

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who the hell do you think funds and promotes the tree huggers? BIG OIL!!!
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NO, big oil would love to build more refineries and drill...but the EPA makes it nearly impossible
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LOL LOL LOL... who do you think runs the EPA??? big oil. come on brief... youre smarter than this.
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Why would big oil shoot themselves in the foot?
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if you read my earlier posts you might be able to put the pieces of the puzzle together. this isnt about state govt's losing tax revenues.... its about destroying this country and falling completely into world govt (communism).

the owners of bp are the same owners of gs. who do you think financed trotsky, stalin and lenin?
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NO, big oil would love to build more refineries and drill...but the EPA makes it nearly impossible
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LOL LOL LOL... who do you think runs the EPA??? big oil. come on brief... youre smarter than this.
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Why would big oil shoot themselves in the foot?
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if you read my earlier posts you might be able to put the pieces of the puzzle together. this isnt about state govt's losing tax revenues.... its about destroying this country and falling completely into world govt (communism).

the owners of bp are the same owners of gs. who do you think financed trotsky, stalin and lenin?
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Gee, and I thought all that the "evil" oil companies wanted was to make money...
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LOL LOL LOL... who do you think runs the EPA??? big oil. come on brief... youre smarter than this.
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Why would big oil shoot themselves in the foot?
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if you read my earlier posts you might be able to put the pieces of the puzzle together. this isnt about state govt's losing tax revenues.... its about destroying this country and falling completely into world govt (communism).

the owners of bp are the same owners of gs. who do you think financed trotsky, stalin and lenin?
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Gee, and I thought all that the "evil" oil companies wanted was to make money...
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they already have all of the money.. now they want complete control of our lives. i.e. communism
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Yes that's correct because the petrol you buy pays into the national debt of the USA.
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This is ridiculous what about performance cars hot rods?
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That's MPH "Miles Per Hour" you are thinking of, NOT MPG "Miles Per GALLON" as is stated in the title.

LOL !!
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I refuse to buy a new car until I can afford one that runs on electricity or clean fuels.
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Let me translate the above post:

"I live with my mother and cannot afford to even buy a car in the first place, so I'll just say some tree hugger shit that, in my limited intellectual capacity, makes me appear to have politically correct integrity."
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I refuse to buy a new car until I can afford one that runs on electricity or clean fuels.
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Let me translate the above post:

"I live with my mother and cannot afford to even buy a car in the first place, so I'll just say some tree hugger shit that, in my limited intellectual capacity, makes me appear to have politically correct integrity."
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hahahaha
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Imperial gallon is 1.21 US gallons. Im pretty sure that 44mpg VW would be rated at 53mpg in the UK. Also, the US semi fleet is 3x the size of Europe's. They use the diesel that in Europe would be used by cars. Europeans also use a manual transmission while people in the US go with automatics.

No American would spend 2500 dollars more for a smaller engine with less horsepower. So why even offer it.
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Imperial gallon is 1.21 US gallons. Im pretty sure that 44mpg VW would be rated at 53mpg in the UK. Also, the US semi fleet is 3x the size of Europe's. They use the diesel that in Europe would be used by cars. Europeans also use a manual transmission while people in the US go with automatics.

No American would spend 2500 dollars more for a smaller engine with less horsepower. So why even offer it.
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Americans just arent that interested in MPG because if they were then small cars would be the majority of what you see on the road.
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Imperial gallon is 1.21 US gallons. Im pretty sure that 44mpg VW would be rated at 53mpg in the UK. Also, the US semi fleet is 3x the size of Europe's. They use the diesel that in Europe would be used by cars. Europeans also use a manual transmission while people in the US go with automatics.

No American would spend 2500 dollars more for a smaller engine with less horsepower. So why even offer it.
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Americans just arent that interested in MPG because if they were then small cars would be the majority of what you see on the road.
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Can't squeeze 400+ HP out of some tiny rice burner piece of shit and still get high mileage...








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You can blame the tree huggers and the EPA for all the stupid emission laws and the fact we haven't built a new refinery since the '70's...every piece of pollution control bullshit you strap to an engine and shove in the exhaust system robs it of fuel economy...
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Nope, you can blame Big Oil and their insatiable appetite for profits. It's that simple.
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I refuse to buy a new car until I can afford one that runs on electricity or clean fuels.
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Let me translate the above post:

"I live with my mother and cannot afford to even buy a car in the first place, so I'll just say some tree hugger shit that, in my limited intellectual capacity, makes me appear to have politically correct integrity."
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Imperial gallon is 1.21 US gallons. Im pretty sure that 44mpg VW would be rated at 53mpg in the UK. Also, the US semi fleet is 3x the size of Europe's. They use the diesel that in Europe would be used by cars. Europeans also use a manual transmission while people in the US go with automatics.

No American would spend 2500 dollars more for a smaller engine with less horsepower. So why even offer it.
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the polo blue motion gets 75 mpg (us gallons). youre telling me there would be no market in the usa for that? LOL
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In 1985 the Average Fuel Efficiency of US Passenger cars was 27.6mpg, in 2011 the average was 33.8. An outstanding 6.2mpg increase. In comparison look at any other technology out there. With the progression of computers one would think a vastly larger increase in fuel efficiency.

You are fooling yourself if you believe this is the best that can be done.
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Holy crap, we have normal cars -- ford, VW, etc -- being built in the US that run 70mpg, but it's illegal to be used in the US; they send it to South America and stuff.. The same model in the US is only 40mpg... Watch this, your mind will be blown by the end of the video:

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Nothing their that I hadn't been saying on this board.

Our Gov does not want us to get good gas mileage. Less money in taxes and less money we are spending in gas and going to the gas station buying gas.

Less money for the oil companies and less money for the gas stores.

Our Gov passes new laws all the time to force us to spend money to comply with new legislation. For example here on the farm we now have to buy DOT tags for the trailor trucks, pick up trucks, trailors etc etc.. We cannot pull certain equipment now unless we install special breaks and hitches. We have spent thousands to comply with the new law here in Ky.




They do this all the time. We have a Gov that is doing everything possible to force you to have it as hard as possible. Poor people cannot afford high priced shit and rich people see it as no problem at all and it does not affect them in any way.
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Un-fucking-believable!!! This is an outrage!!! question
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Nothing their that I hadn't been saying on this board.

Our Gov does not want us to get good gas mileage. Less money in taxes and less money we are spending in gas and going to the gas station buying gas.

Less money for the oil companies and less money for the gas stores.

Our Gov passes new laws all the time to force us to spend money to comply with new legislation. For example here on the farm we now have to buy DOT tags for the trailor trucks, pick up trucks, trailors etc etc.. We cannot pull certain equipment now unless we install special breaks and hitches. We have spent thousands to comply with the new law here in Ky.




They do this all the time. We have a Gov that is doing everything possible to force you to have it as hard as possible.
Poor people cannot afford high priced shit and rich people see it as no problem at all and it does not affect them in any way.
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bravo gabriel... you win a cookie. good post.
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Imperial gallon is 1.21 US gallons. Im pretty sure that 44mpg VW would be rated at 53mpg in the UK. Also, the US semi fleet is 3x the size of Europe's. They use the diesel that in Europe would be used by cars. Europeans also use a manual transmission while people in the US go with automatics.

No American would spend 2500 dollars more for a smaller engine with less horsepower. So why even offer it.
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the polo blue motion gets 75 mpg (us gallons). youre telling me there would be no market in the usa for that? LOL
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Well first off buddy. Americans in general do not buy hatchbacks. Secondly a 75 hp car would not sell. Thirdly Americans do not use manual transmissions. So no, It wouldn't.
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check this out... the VW polo blue motion gets 91.1 mpg via UK gallons.

[link to www.volkswagen.co.uk]

now lets convert that: 91.1 uk gallons = 75.85 US gallons

[link to www.thecalculatorsite.com]

now remember these UK cars pollute half as much per mile. you people have been played.
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Excellent info--- thanks.
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THE why is because THE USA wants to sell gallons and get those taxes,and more importantly ,The Oil Companies that run this Country won't allow it or any other competition to survive, such as electric,alcohol,hydrogen,etc. They are so Big They just simply buy them up and close them !
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Emission laws?
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safety laws
continue adding weight as crash protection, crumple zones, side bars, etc and the cars get heavier

many countries do not hold our safety standards
and it makes us

"One of the list's surprises: the U.S., which ranks eighth most dangerous"

[link to www.forbes.com]

my 1972 dodge dart gets 30 mpg, weighs 3800#, and is easily repairable with even the most basic mechanic skills

how far we haven't come

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Your 72 dart does not get 30 MPG,, while the inline 6 does better than the v8's,, it does not get 30..
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Imperial gallon is 1.21 US gallons. Im pretty sure that 44mpg VW would be rated at 53mpg in the UK. Also, the US semi fleet is 3x the size of Europe's. They use the diesel that in Europe would be used by cars. Europeans also use a manual transmission while people in the US go with automatics.

No American would spend 2500 dollars more for a smaller engine with less horsepower. So why even offer it.
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the polo blue motion gets 75 mpg (us gallons). youre telling me there would be no market in the usa for that? LOL
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Well first off buddy. Americans in general do not buy hatchbacks. Secondly a 75 hp car would not sell. Thirdly Americans do not use manual transmissions. So no, It wouldn't.
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LOL... youre an asshat... americans have never had the opportunity to buy a car that gets 75 mpg you douche. gas prices might be in decline right now.. but eventually they will reverse again and people will be desperate.
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THE why is because THE USA wants to sell gallons and get those taxes,and more importantly ,The Oil Companies that run this Country won't allow it or any other competition to survive, such as electric,alcohol,hydrogen,etc. They are so Big They just simply buy them up and close them !
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and its not about the temporary revenue... its about war and ushering in communism.
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I checked the KIA Rio for the US and UK ..
The UK gets 88 mpg and the US gets 40 mpg.

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UK Link. ^

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Emission laws?
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....ffs


How can a person be this braindead.....
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It's true. Emission rules in USA esp California are more strict than other countries that tend to ruin fuel efficiency.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Somehow this just seems backwards to me. Ya know?

You'd think if a car got 70mpg, rather than 28mpg, it would be less polluting. I just can't for the life of me understand the emission law thing when it comes to mpg.

I guess I'm brain dead blink

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check this out... the VW polo blue motion gets 91.1 mpg via UK gallons.

[link to www.volkswagen.co.uk]

now lets convert that: 91.1 uk gallons = 75.85 US gallons

[link to www.thecalculatorsite.com]

now remember these UK cars pollute half as much per mile. you people have been played.
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Excellent info--- thanks.
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No American would drive around in a 75 hp car. nobody wants small cars. the smart car isnt selling worth a shit.
22k dollars for a polo vs 9000 for a nissan versa. who in their right mind would spend 13k more adding 275 dollars/mo to the car payment to save 100/mo in fuel.
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I checked the KIA Rio for the US and UK ..
The UK gets 88 mpg and the US gets 40 mpg.

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UK Link. ^

[link to www.kia.com]

US Link ^
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17,000 USD for the uk rio in your link with 74 hp.


13,400 USD for the US rio in your link with 138hp.
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....ffs


How can a person be this braindead.....
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It's true. Emission rules in USA esp California are more strict than other countries that tend to ruin fuel efficiency.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Somehow this just seems backwards to me. Ya know?

You'd think if a car got 70mpg, rather than 28mpg, it would be less polluting. I just can't for the life of me understand the emission law thing when it comes to mpg.

I guess I'm brain dead blink
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It has to do with the chemistry...when HC, CO, CO2 and Nox come out of the engine as a result of combustion, the catalyst reaction turns them into CO2 and H2O with some O2 left over...see how simple that is? grinning
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