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Was Lucifer actually an Ancient Astronaut ? ..

 
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The name "Lucifer" comes from a hybrid Pleiadian-Nibiruian Anunnaki Race that emerged through combining the Density-2 Nibiruian Lulitan family of the Thoth-Enki-Zephelium (Zeta) Anunnaki lineage with the Satain family of the Marduke-Annunaki line and the D-11 Necromiton fallen Seraphim race of Andromeda.

From this hybridization the Pleiadan Samjase-Luciferian Anunnaki and Marduke-Necromiton-Luciferian Anunnaki Races of Sirius B, Nibiru and Alpha and Omega Centauri emerged.

This collective of Anunnaki Races promoting an Anti-Christiac dominion agenda became known historically as the "Luciferians," and were occasionally joined by other Anunnaki and Illuminati Human races lines in their "Quest for the Holy Grail."

(Not all Anunnaki are in the "Luciferian" category, and some run competing dominion agendas)

From the book Voyagers.

But yes. It was technically a glorified alien mutiny.

passed down through the ages by us dumb folk to fit a perceivable frame of reference to what really happened.
 Quoting: Heretic_333


Thanks for this, Alien Mutiny, I believe it.
Ive seen too many things in the skies not to believe it

And the Baghavad Gita has a interplanetary war in its verses as well.

Zechariah Sitchin has a lot of material on this also of the Annunaki

I also have a book called Slave Species of God by another Author
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The name "Lucifer" comes from a hybrid Pleiadian-Nibiruian Anunnaki Race that emerged through combining the Density-2 Nibiruian Lulitan family of the Thoth-Enki-Zephelium (Zeta) Anunnaki lineage with the Satain family of the Marduke-Annunaki line and the D-11 Necromiton fallen Seraphim race of Andromeda.

From this hybridization the Pleiadan Samjase-Luciferian Anunnaki and Marduke-Necromiton-Luciferian Anunnaki Races of Sirius B, Nibiru and Alpha and Omega Centauri emerged.

This collective of Anunnaki Races promoting an Anti-Christiac dominion agenda became known historically as the "Luciferians," and were occasionally joined by other Anunnaki and Illuminati Human races lines in their "Quest for the Holy Grail."

(Not all Anunnaki are in the "Luciferian" category, and some run competing dominion agendas)

From the book Voyagers.

But yes. It was technically a glorified alien mutiny.

passed down through the ages by us dumb folk to fit a perceivable frame of reference to what really happened.
 Quoting: Heretic_333


No it did not. This would be somebody else, NOT Lucifer of the Satania system rebellion.
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Actually, you're presently some where in the middle and have been given a second chance to prove your worth to God.

How have you been doing so far?
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This is a really informative thread based on my favorite topic, Lucifer. I have a question for both Apollo and Heretic_333. Would any of you have more information on the relationship between Lucifer and Angel Samael? Any details on how he was physically challenged compared to the other angels at the time? I've heard several different suggestions regarding his physical appearance. Some individuals suggest that he sported a tail and no man would come close to him due to fear. I've also seen from various depictions that instead of feathers, he had Bat type wings. As far as Samael is concerned, I've heard that Samael was the one angel that would give Lucifer his ear and time. It does seem that Lucifer messed up in a way which was unacceptable to those whom were of higher ranking order and to be quite frank this is also the first time I've ever read the passage which the OP, Apollo used to spark this thread. From other teachings, I've come to learn that Lucifer or as others might call him or her, Sophia... gave birth and life the the God of the material plane which is named Yaldabaoth (perhaps Satan). According to some... Lucifer, went ahead and attempted to redeem himself by incarnating into the man known as Jesus Christ and helped redeem his mistakes by dying on the cross, therefor removing 'unconscious death's, sins and laws. Of course the religion of Christianity being his redemption before his superiors. I've also understood that because of this, he was allowed to go back into the Heavens. The other angels such as Azazel and the many whom refused to redeem themselves are currently being held captive till this day within the confines of the inner planes or worlds.

Sirs, would you please help me gather this information more accordingly? I'd really appreciate both of you gentlemens inputs. Thank you. -alex

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I lack any specific answers. Due to my understanding of most of the higher up characters in ancient religions being the actual embodiment of entire groups.

Not all the time though.

biblical archangels and other Sanskrit gods may very well be singular entities.
 Quoting: Heretic_333


You have actually confirmed one of my insights. During a meditation it came to me that a character such as Lucifer would manifest itself into this 3rd dimension through several individuals whom of course would contain his energy and or essence. The human beings born from a character such as Lucifer would not realize this as such due to the overall suppression of their consciousness. These higher dimensional beings such as Lucifer have the potential to exist and incarnate onto Earth while enjoying several lives simultaneously. Hence, consciousness manifesting what we can physically observe with our eyes. This really would just be a reflection of what the puppet master has already spelled into existence through us. Okay, I'm done. ;)
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you believe the part about the gold?
i mean they had huge technology, why did they used beings and not bots hmm

sound more logical to say they came here in despair since their planet was already fucked, they found a nice female based planet full of life (btw the only one like this in our solar system, earth is heaven litterally) and the gold is only because their society is totally materialistic (gold, money, power, elitism, slavery see what i mean?).
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no no, in their rise to a high technology, they damaged their atmosphere, and need gold (refined into like a talcom powder) to put in their atmosphere.

And even though they are referred to as GODS, they aren't GODLY, were talking about a culture only a few thousand years ahead of present day.

They mined it themselves till it was crunch time, and needed a worker better adapted to the planet to make it all work.
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i don't buy this part of the story, they were fucked and über fucked, this planet was the only way for them to survive and they located it a long time before their planet went berzek meaning the gold story is not relevant.

seriously just think about it, you locate a planet where you can live, something wrong happen to your native planet, how many solutions you have?

just one, it will be too late to came to the planet number 2 to search some stuff to repair planet number 1!

so the gold stuff was probably done but not to repair their planet, i think they used it for something else maybe their technology + their obsession for it, they are like magpies not us.

if you think about it, this also explained why they wanted so bad to eradicate this planet native species (because even if we were part created by one of them, we are still natives not them so it's a big problem = of course we will fight for our home and mom) and change her to fit their tastes and needs (something like a totally not natural like planet, the opposite of our tastes), all the so called architecture we have is probably a copy of what they had in their planet.

the invasion is not only physical but mental, humans are not building stuff they like, humans are meant to love nature and animals not nasty cold buildings.

earth is a garden, they don't like it, they prefer massive penises stuff and shiny shit lol!


this also relates quite well with the story about the castration of the old dude, penis problem = penis everywhere on our garden!

so it was an invasion but it was an emergency for them, also they touched not only our planet but our entire solar system for sure.
 Quoting: Monbazillac


Gold was the only intention. To save their planet.

Read the Sumerian creation epic. The Enuma E'lish. You will find its stories quite intriguing.
 Quoting: Heretic_333



already did and the story is not only intriguing but full of holes in interesting parts how convenient damned
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Theres a guy that cliff-notes his material and improves upon it. Also adding his own flavor. Lloyd Pye's book "Everything you know is wrong" I think should be read by everyone on Earth.

 Quoting: Heretic_333


I haven't heard of Pye before.
I did find the video though and will watch it now.
Thanks for the info!

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Pretty much how it happened.... sigh
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What did he do wrong though. Hanky panky with Eve?
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


This story you posted probably has truth, where is it from, and Apollo, you sorta forgot a source in your post. But it is NOT Lucifer. Lucifer WAS system head of over 600 planets, not all of them in Pleiades , those also in Orion etc, when he initiated the Rebellion. Lucifer's Father is Michael of Nebadon.

Lucifer is not a sexually reproducing being so not he didn't muck with "EVE". The hanky panky with eve was her having sex with a native of this planet and violating her oath of over care of this world. The person that did muck with her however in the background and encourage the sexual affair with the Earth Human, was Caligastia the then prince of this world UNDER Lucifer.

The management teams of the systems administrations are not sexually reproducing folks.
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abodamn de derp de derp
YOU ARE SUCH A LITTLE LIEING SAC OF CRAP HAVE BEN FOLLOWING YOU ON HERE AND ONE MOMENT YOU CLAIM TO KNOW EVERYTHING THEN THE NEXT MOMENT YOU DONT KNOW SHIT MAKE UP YOUR DAMN MIND AND QUIT ACTING LIKE SOMETHING THAT YOU are not you ass
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Theres a guy that cliff-notes his material and improves upon it. Also adding his own flavor. Lloyd Pye's book "Everything you know is wrong" I think should be read by everyone on Earth.

 Quoting: Heretic_333


I haven't heard of Pye before.
I did find the video though and will watch it now.
Thanks for the info!


 Quoting: Awake but dreaming


Good stuff! I will be watching this right now. Thank you!
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WHY DOES ANY ONE TRY TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT WHEN IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO FIGURE IT OUT I BET IF YOU USED SOME OF YOUR BRAIN POWER TO CURE CANCER YOU WOULD SUCCEDE BUT INSTEAD YOU JUST POST THIS AWFULL GARBAGE ON SHIT THAT NO ONE CAN EVER REALY KNOW ITS ALL IN THE PAST SO WHO GIVES A DAMN
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Thats what I mean, what if the story was true, but it came to us packaged like something out of Mother Goose rhymes?

Ive never believed in the talking snake btw.

I know what it really means. Its DNA.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


So do you believe the "original "sin" Eve took part in was of a sexual nature with the "serpent"?
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the serpent was puberty, they didn't expect it 1rof1
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Yeah, them snake in the pants, would be embarassed when it happened and covered it with my books while walking down the hallway past the pretty girls.

Daddy Jehovah brought his son down for a Planetary field trip to backwoods planet earth. Told him to behave, They got more than they expected . An out of control teen.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


Jehovah is not a Daddy. Jehovah is a PLANET that orbits Alcyone. Also known as Thiaoouba. Pronounced he hoo vah, sort of . both terms. The people of this planet help babysit earth. They are the ones who lead Moses out of Egypt, feed manna from craft, provided a bunch more than the 10 commandments that survived and also fried Sodom and Gommorah. And a few other nasty places on this world over time.
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WHY DOES ANY ONE TRY TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT WHEN IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO FIGURE IT OUT I BET IF YOU USED SOME OF YOUR BRAIN POWER TO CURE CANCER YOU WOULD SUCCEDE BUT INSTEAD YOU JUST POST THIS AWFULL GARBAGE ON SHIT THAT NO ONE CAN EVER REALY KNOW ITS ALL IN THE PAST SO WHO GIVES A DAMN
 Quoting: travvy


I agree with you. Ditto it all on this forum over old bible and religous history, people need to live in the NOW with the problems that exist. There are people here who go to the VC and yell and scream at each other over the doings of the people back then and fighting over colors of the people thousands of years ago and which races and so on and so forth. who gives an FF.
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WHY DOES ANY ONE TRY TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT WHEN IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO FIGURE IT OUT I BET IF YOU USED SOME OF YOUR BRAIN POWER TO CURE CANCER YOU WOULD SUCCEDE BUT INSTEAD YOU JUST POST THIS AWFULL GARBAGE ON SHIT THAT NO ONE CAN EVER REALY KNOW ITS ALL IN THE PAST SO WHO GIVES A DAMN
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Are you going to burst a blood vessel or something? Id go to a doctor to check out your blood pressure. Dont delay.
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WHY DOES ANY ONE TRY TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT WHEN IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO FIGURE IT OUT I BET IF YOU USED SOME OF YOUR BRAIN POWER TO CURE CANCER YOU WOULD SUCCEDE BUT INSTEAD YOU JUST POST THIS AWFULL GARBAGE ON SHIT THAT NO ONE CAN EVER REALY KNOW ITS ALL IN THE PAST SO WHO GIVES A DAMN
 Quoting: travvy


ON THE OTHER HAND THOSE THAT DO NOT KNOW HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT I GUESS WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU YA LITTLE $#@^

OH MAN I WHY AM I GONNA KEEP FOLLOWING YOUR STUPID THREADS THEY MAKE ME GO CRAZY I LOVE YOU THO YOU NUT JOBS ALLIKE
FEED ME THE GARBEGE AND STORE THE FOOD
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Pretty much how it happened.... sigh
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What did he do wrong though. Hanky panky with Eve?
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


This is what he did wrong:

How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart,

1.) “I will ascend to the heavens;

2.) I will raise my throne above the stars of God;

3.) I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon.

4.) I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;

5.) I will make myself like the Most High.”

But you are brought down to the realm of the dead, to the depths of the pit.

Isaiah 14:12-15
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Theres a guy that cliff-notes his material and improves upon it. Also adding his own flavor. Lloyd Pye's book "Everything you know is wrong" I think should be read by everyone on Earth.

 Quoting: Heretic_333


I haven't heard of Pye before.
I did find the video though and will watch it now.
Thanks for the info!


 Quoting: Awake but dreaming


Good stuff! I will be watching this right now. Thank you!
 Quoting: Captain Planet Alex


:yodamofo:
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WHY DOES ANY ONE TRY TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT WHEN IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO FIGURE IT OUT I BET IF YOU USED SOME OF YOUR BRAIN POWER TO CURE CANCER YOU WOULD SUCCEDE BUT INSTEAD YOU JUST POST THIS AWFULL GARBAGE ON SHIT THAT NO ONE CAN EVER REALY KNOW ITS ALL IN THE PAST SO WHO GIVES A DAMN
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Are you going to burst a blood vessel or something? Id go to a doctor to check out your blood pressure. Dont delay.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


LOL MUCH LOVE MAN I HAVE A LOVE HATE RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR THREADS
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I like to think about Lucifer as Gods Secret Agent!

LOL

Gnosticism has fortunately/unfortunately permeated my cosmology over the years and I've been up to a little Chaos lately to break up an impass so I'm a bit silly ATM. Of course i tend towards silliness anyway :)

Lucifer "The Light Bearer" The Arch-Angel cannot shine for us in this world of the Demiurge (Satan/Santa) but He is here on a mission from the true Lord of the Universe, to attempt to enlighten us about our situation.

Through Occult Knowledge (Gnosis) one may become suffiently informed and strong enough to escape the cycle of reincarnation, this planet and The Demiurge.

Head straight, in an instant flash for the blue light in the center of the Multiverse, don't look back! (That's in The Tibetan Book of the Dead too).

Amuse/Absorb/Disguard/Ridicule as you will.

BwaHaHa and Abrahadabrah!

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WHY DOES ANY ONE TRY TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT WHEN IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO FIGURE IT OUT I BET IF YOU USED SOME OF YOUR BRAIN POWER TO CURE CANCER YOU WOULD SUCCEDE BUT INSTEAD YOU JUST POST THIS AWFULL GARBAGE ON SHIT THAT NO ONE CAN EVER REALY KNOW ITS ALL IN THE PAST SO WHO GIVES A DAMN
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Are you going to burst a blood vessel or something? Id go to a doctor to check out your blood pressure. Dont delay.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


Maybe check yours? He has a point apollo. there are so many here who spend time in this old garbage. You post plenty of it too you know. It does not fix this world as it is now.
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Lucifer is King, Praise Satan!

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OH GOOD GREIFF I NEED SOME PILLS DONT I
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WHY DOES ANY ONE TRY TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT WHEN IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO FIGURE IT OUT I BET IF YOU USED SOME OF YOUR BRAIN POWER TO CURE CANCER YOU WOULD SUCCEDE BUT INSTEAD YOU JUST POST THIS AWFULL GARBAGE ON SHIT THAT NO ONE CAN EVER REALY KNOW ITS ALL IN THE PAST SO WHO GIVES A DAMN
 Quoting: travvy


you don't care about humanity origins?

well too bad, it's really important to know where we came from so we can do our best for our future (and not make the same mistakes), you know the stuff about knowing our past and all yeahsure
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wierd....hitler's middle name was lucy
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WHY DOES ANY ONE TRY TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT WHEN IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO FIGURE IT OUT I BET IF YOU USED SOME OF YOUR BRAIN POWER TO CURE CANCER YOU WOULD SUCCEDE BUT INSTEAD YOU JUST POST THIS AWFULL GARBAGE ON SHIT THAT NO ONE CAN EVER REALY KNOW ITS ALL IN THE PAST SO WHO GIVES A DAMN
 Quoting: travvy


ON THE OTHER HAND THOSE THAT DO NOT KNOW HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT I GUESS WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU YA LITTLE $#@^

OH MAN I WHY AM I GONNA KEEP FOLLOWING YOUR STUPID THREADS THEY MAKE ME GO CRAZY I LOVE YOU THO YOU NUT JOBS ALLIKE
FEED ME THE GARBEGE AND STORE THE FOOD
HAHAHAHAHAHA
 Quoting: travvy


THIS IS HISTORY TOO OLD TO KNOW AND RESOURCES LIKE THE BIBLE STINK TO HI HEAVEN. AND THERE IS TOO MUCH FOCUS ON THE ONE HISTORY OF THOE TRIBES OF PEOPLE IN THAT ONE AREA WHEN THE WHOLE OF EARTH WAS OCCUPIED AT THAT TIME. SURELY THE HISTORY OF THE OTHERS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT, RIGHT? AND ALL PEOPLES GET AVATARS NOT JUST THE ONES THERE IN THAT SPOT AS TO "JESUS."

WHAT YOU ONES DO NEED TO GIVE AN FF ABOUT IS YOUR SOUL GROWTH, BECAUSE TIME IS ABOUT UP ON THIS WORLD AND THE SORTING BEGAN YEARS AGO.
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I like to think about Lucifer as Gods Secret Agent!

LOL

Gnosticism has fortunately/unfortunately permeated my cosmology over the years and I've been up to a little Chaos lately to break up an impass so I'm a bit silly ATM. Of course i tend towards silliness anyway :)

Lucifer "The Light Bearer" The Arch-Angel cannot shine for us in this world of the Demiurge (Satan/Santa) but He is here on a mission from the true Lord of the Universe, to attempt to enlighten us about our situation.

Through Occult Knowledge (Gnosis) one may become suffiently informed and strong enough to escape the cycle of reincarnation, this planet and The Demiurge.

Head straight, in an instant flash for the blue light in the center of the Multiverse, don't look back! (That's in The Tibetan Book of the Dead too).

Amuse/Absorb/Disguard/Ridicule as you will.

BwaHaHa and Abrahadabrah!

Frater
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Ha! We are on similar paths. Thanks for the information, this is also what I've been taught.
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WHY DOES ANY ONE TRY TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT WHEN IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO FIGURE IT OUT I BET IF YOU USED SOME OF YOUR BRAIN POWER TO CURE CANCER YOU WOULD SUCCEDE BUT INSTEAD YOU JUST POST THIS AWFULL GARBAGE ON SHIT THAT NO ONE CAN EVER REALY KNOW ITS ALL IN THE PAST SO WHO GIVES A DAMN
 Quoting: travvy


ON THE OTHER HAND THOSE THAT DO NOT KNOW HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT I GUESS WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU YA LITTLE $#@^

OH MAN I WHY AM I GONNA KEEP FOLLOWING YOUR STUPID THREADS THEY MAKE ME GO CRAZY I LOVE YOU THO YOU NUT JOBS ALLIKE
FEED ME THE GARBEGE AND STORE THE FOOD
HAHAHAHAHAHA
 Quoting: travvy


THIS IS HISTORY TOO OLD TO KNOW AND RESOURCES LIKE THE BIBLE STINK TO HI HEAVEN. AND THERE IS TOO MUCH FOCUS ON THE ONE HISTORY OF THOE TRIBES OF PEOPLE IN THAT ONE AREA WHEN THE WHOLE OF EARTH WAS OCCUPIED AT THAT TIME. SURELY THE HISTORY OF THE OTHERS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT, RIGHT? AND ALL PEOPLES GET AVATARS NOT JUST THE ONES THERE IN THAT SPOT AS TO "JESUS."

WHAT YOU ONES DO NEED TO GIVE AN FF ABOUT IS YOUR SOUL GROWTH, BECAUSE TIME IS ABOUT UP ON THIS WORLD AND THE SORTING BEGAN YEARS AGO.
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no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
this i do not think i think you are off a little but still make good point
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WHY DOES ANY ONE TRY TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT WHEN IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO FIGURE IT OUT I BET IF YOU USED SOME OF YOUR BRAIN POWER TO CURE CANCER YOU WOULD SUCCEDE BUT INSTEAD YOU JUST POST THIS AWFULL GARBAGE ON SHIT THAT NO ONE CAN EVER REALY KNOW ITS ALL IN THE PAST SO WHO GIVES A DAMN
 Quoting: travvy


ON THE OTHER HAND THOSE THAT DO NOT KNOW HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT I GUESS WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU YA LITTLE $#@^

OH MAN I WHY AM I GONNA KEEP FOLLOWING YOUR STUPID THREADS THEY MAKE ME GO CRAZY I LOVE YOU THO YOU NUT JOBS ALLIKE
FEED ME THE GARBEGE AND STORE THE FOOD
HAHAHAHAHAHA
 Quoting: travvy


THIS IS HISTORY TOO OLD TO KNOW AND RESOURCES LIKE THE BIBLE STINK TO HI HEAVEN. AND THERE IS TOO MUCH FOCUS ON THE ONE HISTORY OF THOE TRIBES OF PEOPLE IN THAT ONE AREA WHEN THE WHOLE OF EARTH WAS OCCUPIED AT THAT TIME. SURELY THE HISTORY OF THE OTHERS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT, RIGHT? AND ALL PEOPLES GET AVATARS NOT JUST THE ONES THERE IN THAT SPOT AS TO "JESUS."

WHAT YOU ONES DO NEED TO GIVE AN FF ABOUT IS YOUR SOUL GROWTH, BECAUSE TIME IS ABOUT UP ON THIS WORLD AND THE SORTING BEGAN YEARS AGO.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
this i do not think i think you are off a little but still make good point
 Quoting: travvy


yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
this i do think i think you are on to something spot on but make a horrible point.

dont pay attention to any thing i said the meaning of what i say isnt in the context its in wtf ever sause its so damn dual sided you know
never knew any more than you!!!
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Re: Was Lucifer actually an Ancient Astronaut ? ..
This is a really informative thread based on my favorite topic, Lucifer. I have a question for both Apollo and Heretic_333. Would any of you have more information on the relationship between Lucifer and Angel Samael? Any details on how he was physically challenged compared to the other angels at the time? I've heard several different suggestions regarding his physical appearance. Some individuals suggest that he sported a tail and no man would come close to him due to fear. I've also seen from various depictions that instead of feathers, he had Bat type wings. As far as Samael is concerned, I've heard that Samael was the one angel that would give Lucifer his ear and time. It does seem that Lucifer messed up in a way which was unacceptable to those whom were of higher ranking order and to be quite frank this is also the first time I've ever read the passage which the OP, Apollo used to spark this thread. From other teachings, I've come to learn that Lucifer or as others might call him or her, Sophia... gave birth and life the the God of the material plane which is named Yaldabaoth (perhaps Satan). According to some... Lucifer, went ahead and attempted to redeem himself by incarnating into the man known as Jesus Christ and helped redeem his mistakes by dying on the cross, therefor removing 'unconscious death's, sins and laws. Of course the religion of Christianity being his redemption before his superiors. I've also understood that because of this, he was allowed to go back into the Heavens. The other angels such as Azazel and the many whom refused to redeem themselves are currently being held captive till this day within the confines of the inner planes or worlds.

Sirs, would you please help me gather this information more accordingly? I'd really appreciate both of you gentlemens inputs. Thank you. -alex
 Quoting: Captain Planet Alex


Alex, Ill answer this, I have to go somewhere. Ill be back soon...hf
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


Yes Sir.
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Alex, Samael is probaly related to Lucifer, via rebellious archetypes,

Samael is always associated with Mars, Ares and Aries. A depiction of Samael would be with rams horns atop his head. He is archetype of violence and rebirth while Lucifer is associated with Knowledge, gnosis and forbidden teachings.

As of wings, all Sons of God were pictured with wings. The bat wings being those of the night of course, Daemon was originally a Greek word for good and bad angels.

Here is the Zohar verse on Samael
.My.entire domination is based on killing. And if I accept the Torah, there will no longer be wars. My rule is over the planet Maadim (Mars) that indicates spilling of blood.” - Zohar

And there is no Elohim with me" "I kill, and I make alive" MEANS THAT THEN IT SHALL BE KNOWN THAT I kill with my Shechinah whoever is guilty and "I make alive" with her whoever is innocent. - Zohar
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Re: Was Lucifer actually an Ancient Astronaut ? ..
I like to think about Lucifer as Gods Secret Agent!

LOL

Gnosticism has fortunately/unfortunately permeated my cosmology over the years and I've been up to a little Chaos lately to break up an impass so I'm a bit silly ATM. Of course i tend towards silliness anyway :)

Lucifer "The Light Bearer" The Arch-Angel cannot shine for us in this world of the Demiurge (Satan/Santa) but He is here on a mission from the true Lord of the Universe, to attempt to enlighten us about our situation.

Through Occult Knowledge (Gnosis) one may become suffiently informed and strong enough to escape the cycle of reincarnation, this planet and The Demiurge.

Head straight, in an instant flash for the blue light in the center of the Multiverse, don't look back! (That's in The Tibetan Book of the Dead too).

Amuse/Absorb/Disguard/Ridicule as you will.

BwaHaHa and Abrahadabrah!

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Ha! We are on similar paths. Thanks for the information, this is also what I've been taught.
 Quoting: Captain Planet Alex


cheers
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Re: Was Lucifer actually an Ancient Astronaut ? ..
WHY DOES ANY ONE TRY TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT WHEN IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO FIGURE IT OUT I BET IF YOU USED SOME OF YOUR BRAIN POWER TO CURE CANCER YOU WOULD SUCCEDE BUT INSTEAD YOU JUST POST THIS AWFULL GARBAGE ON SHIT THAT NO ONE CAN EVER REALY KNOW ITS ALL IN THE PAST SO WHO GIVES A DAMN
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ON THE OTHER HAND THOSE THAT DO NOT KNOW HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT I GUESS WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU YA LITTLE $#@^

OH MAN I WHY AM I GONNA KEEP FOLLOWING YOUR STUPID THREADS THEY MAKE ME GO CRAZY I LOVE YOU THO YOU NUT JOBS ALLIKE
FEED ME THE GARBEGE AND STORE THE FOOD
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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THIS IS HISTORY TOO OLD TO KNOW AND RESOURCES LIKE THE BIBLE STINK TO HI HEAVEN. AND THERE IS TOO MUCH FOCUS ON THE ONE HISTORY OF THOE TRIBES OF PEOPLE IN THAT ONE AREA WHEN THE WHOLE OF EARTH WAS OCCUPIED AT THAT TIME. SURELY THE HISTORY OF THE OTHERS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT, RIGHT? AND ALL PEOPLES GET AVATARS NOT JUST THE ONES THERE IN THAT SPOT AS TO "JESUS."

WHAT YOU ONES DO NEED TO GIVE AN FF ABOUT IS YOUR SOUL GROWTH, BECAUSE TIME IS ABOUT UP ON THIS WORLD AND THE SORTING BEGAN YEARS AGO.
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I have to agree with the above statement. Who is to really know the truth, will we ever as humans really know? Its enough to make me go buy some beer and go fishing and I don't do that sorta thing, I think Im going to give conspiracy forums a break!!
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