Was Lucifer actually an Ancient Astronaut ? ..

Hierophant is the Lucifer card

huh ??

he did express it and he did tell quite a few people

This is what he did wrong:

How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart,

1.) “I will ascend to the heavens;

2.) I will raise my throne above the stars of God;

3.) I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon.

4.) I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;

5.) I will make myself like the Most High.”

But you are brought down to the realm of the dead, to the depths of the pit.

Isaiah 14:12-15

expressed and told, but didn't reveal. COULDN'T reveal, hence the joke. Like wanting more than anything to read a certain comic book, and every time you get a copy of it, it dissolves in your hands.

ah edited my post to ask about your perspective of mother, and I feel the same way, when you think about it, we are made from the same building blocks, so ofcourse planets have to be alive somehow.

if you believe in the bible, this planet, the mother would also be the daugher of the father, expected to stand alone and evolve alone, as we are.

I agree that we do not have the correct tools to evolve, we simply maintain a sort of status quo atm, we evolve more gadgets and tech, so the status quo feels more comfortable, but we do not truly evolve that much, from my perspective.

about the truth, it would be nice to know how it all works, but we are here right now, alive and we need to focus on that aswell.
I know the longing for truth, it has always been on my mind, to know how it all works, and what the real point of it all is.
Ofcourse we deserve it, but as some stated earlier, are we ready for it? I personaly think we are, well some of us are, but so much is build around old faiths and religions, perhaps many fear this truth will dissolve the stability and grow into chaos if it was to be told to all.

let's say the truth is that we are created by aliens, and we were told this by our creators, would we then demand to have spaceships take us everywhere? to roam the universe, when not fully ready for it?
would we act like a spoiled child, demanding all that have been denied?
perhaps noone would know how we would react, we could react in a hostile fashion, that is how we usually solve conflicts here, with guns.
I really like this alien scenario for some reason, perhaps I have seen to much star trek hehe.

Could not have said it better myself.

Calves of the Stall. TAURUS

GRAPHIC Stellarium COMPILATION by Apollo.
See my May 5th post if you havent already
Thread: ...VENUS CONJUNCTION and the Super Moon !!!. Venus and the Anti Christ Star..

Solar Eclipse Times: 20 May 4:47 pm in Los Angeles. 20 May 7:47 pm in New York, 21 May 0:47 am in London. 21 May 5:17 am in Delhi, 21 May 9:47 am in Sydney

For path of the eclipse ,

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Qoute from an older blog

Cause oddly the Tablets refer to Mercury as Nibiru as well:

"If Mercury (MULUDU.IDIM.GU4) divides the sky and stands there, [its name] is Nibiru.

Again, this is the Conjunction of Jupiter, Mercury, and the Sun which will herald in THE MAN.

Thread: SUPER CONJUNCTION ...Morning of May 20th, then Evening Eclipse. Nibiru the Destroyer King !!!!!! The Inner Mystery Now Revealed

:may20th:


Excerpts from *five* doves
com

To some esoteric communities, this Annular Solar Eclipse, with its unique &; rare conjunction with Pleiades on May 201, 2012, can be attributed to the return of the Phoenix. Venus is known to be associated with lucifer & the Phoenix in the ancient world because Venus was one of the brightest moving stars in the known heavens. Even in the modern era, Venus is still associated with lucifer or the coming of the Anti-Christ.

The Phoenix is known by many names to many cultures; as Nimrod, Osiris, Queztalquatal, Kukulcan, Viracocha etc. Each culture has had their own names given to Venus but all of them refer & converge on 1 personage; that being of lucifer the ‘Shinning One’. ........... This brief study is not suggesting that at this specific time, the literal Anti-Christ will be revealed. Perhaps but it is only as a type & shadow.

Nonetheless; a sort of esoteric Alpha & Omega for the announcement of the Anti-Christ coming signature to be accompanied by ‘signs & wonders’. Descending –Ascending Birds At Chichen Itza every year on Mar 20, when the Spring Equinox, a ‘shadow’ is cast on the Pyramid that produces a ‘Descending Serpent’ or Phoenix down its northern stairs.


The year 2012 happens to be a peculiar year in that 60 days after the Serpent/Phoenix’s shadow appeared you have the Annular Solar Eclipse occur on May 20, 2012. On this day you have: 1) the Earth-Moon-Sun in conjunction with the Pleiades.


2) The Zenith of the Pleiades with the Pyramid lining up. This Zenith alignment of the Pleiades to the Pyramid at Chichen Itza only happens every 72 years. It so happens that the ‘Unfinished Pyramid’ of the illuminati on the US Reserve Seal has 72 blocks leading up to the Capstone. Coincidence? Perhaps.

ah edited my post to ask about your perspective of mother, and I feel the same way, when you think about it, we are made from the same building blocks, so ofcourse planets have to be alive somehow.

if you believe in the bible, this planet, the mother would also be the daugher of the father, expected to stand alone and evolve alone, as we are.

I agree that we do not have the correct tools to evolve, we simply maintain a sort of status quo atm, we evolve more gadgets and tech, so the status quo feels more comfortable, but we do not truly evolve that much, from my perspective.

about the truth, it would be nice to know how it all works, but we are here right now, alive and we need to focus on that aswell.
I know the longing for truth, it has always been on my mind, to know how it all works, and what the real point of it all is.
Ofcourse we deserve it, but as some stated earlier, are we ready for it? I personaly think we are, well some of us are, but so much is build around old faiths and religions, perhaps many fear this truth will dissolve the stability and grow into chaos if it was to be told to all.

let's say the truth is that we are created by aliens, and we were told this by our creators, would we then demand to have spaceships take us everywhere? to roam the universe, when not fully ready for it?
would we act like a spoiled child, demanding all that have been denied?
perhaps noone would know how we would react, we could react in a hostile fashion, that is how we usually solve conflicts here, with guns.
I really like this alien scenario for some reason, perhaps I have seen to much star trek hehe.

so apollo, what are your thoughts on the conjunction with pleiades compared to your original post about him being kicked out?? perhaps he passed the test of time?

no i don't believe, i only give my trust or not.
to believe = don't ask a shit, just swallow and shut your mouth.
to trust = what a child will do with parents, test, ask, seek, learn etc


for me it's a puzzle, each books/scriptures hold a part of truth and a lot of lies.
some hold nothing than fantasy, new age stuff for ex are just full of this delusion.

so i'm not gonna put my trust into a single one, i never did this with anything except well this planet, humans and animals with wich i shared something and the most important one, love.

but i'm sure we were created using this planet and something/someone else let's called it energy to keep it simple = our parents.

i put my trust into the creationnism theory and also into the evolutionist one since for me evolution is an action (moving basically but to reach something above you) not the darwin/all science bullshit neither the religious/myths stories.

they are not opposite, they are complementary, you cannot explain it all only with one or the other.

science or spirituality alone = FAILURE

religions are not about spirituality, it's only by questionning and refusing and searching that you will touch something real.
same goes for science, i mean you took a vaccine without asking and this stuff is just killing you!



ready? well if you wait for everybody to be ready, oh my lol!

it doesn't work like this, someone gave me a good ex to understand it, take a tree.

let's say a cherry tree not an apple tree

so basically it's time for the fruits to be mature, from the human perspective you know when/how etc
but the tree doesn't know right?
an a cherry on this tree neither?

so when the first cherry is mature why the others are not?
because this one is ready and the others not simple!

some of us are ready, some not, so the truth will came not in one day but into a long period like all the cherries will grow mature on the tree not in one day but during a couple of weeks.

but the fact is we cannot avoid the truth, we cannot escape it, it's part of our growth!

maybe this is why we are told since children to be patient, seriously some of us have been waiting since more than you think and probably not only with this actual life...

of course living is important but you can do both, searching and living, it was probably also supposed to be that way.

WHY DOES ANY ONE TRY TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT WHEN IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO FIGURE IT OUT I BET IF YOU USED SOME OF YOUR BRAIN POWER TO CURE CANCER YOU WOULD SUCCEDE BUT INSTEAD YOU JUST POST THIS AWFULL GARBAGE ON SHIT THAT NO ONE CAN EVER REALY KNOW ITS ALL IN THE PAST SO WHO GIVES A DAMN

Do you think this is how it really happened? I dont know who wrote this but its much more interesting than a talking snake in a tree.
I looked up Homo Erectus cause it sounded funny and it was indeed the name scientists gave a early species of hominid.
This is a fun sci fi piece of writing to read. But Im wondering if its how it really happened.

Thoughts?

How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! Isaiah 14:12

New Living Translation (2007)


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This is the Pleiadian decree in Union with the Universal Council of Galaxies

You Lucien, Son of Jah of Alcyone Pleiades, is hereby sentenced to have all your titles stripped of acknowledgement and use in representation as a Pleiadian and Universal Membership. Your Piloting license is forever suspended. You will not be accessed to any craft or be allowed to pilot any craft inside or beyond earth’s atmosphere. Your computer fingerprint and Iris code and voice command will be deactivated. You will not be able to use any Pleiadian computer. You will not have possession of Star Chart programs and any updates and discoveries of Universal Missions will not be given you , nor any scientific documents pertaining or relating to your research into planetary primitive DNA.

Your Father’s research into the Homo Erectus species of earth and his and yours project will be halted from any further development of the so named Homo Sapien of your creation. The subjects of earth will be halted from any further experimentation. All lab equipment will be removed from the premises . All records of the DNA transfusion experiment will be confiscated

Earth is hereby quarantined to allow the natural development of its evolution, including to and adapting to you and your Brothers and Fathers intervention in the Matter which was granted by the Universal Council and Withdrawn. A separate case is pending.

All craft in either of the named Galaxies will be severely limited in access to earth. We will erect detectors to monitor exploration activity that will not be allowed during the indefinite quarantine of Earth which has sofar been sentenced to ___thousands of years. All technology will be forbidden to the Homo Sapien species. They are to live in their natural environment except to be taught primitive agriculture and weaving and simple tools. No Pleiadian will be allowed to show the Homo Sapiens any of our knowledge or they will be justly sentenced.

Your Father and Brother and sufficient number of researchers can stay and monitor the Homo Sapiens activity. However they will be allowed full transport to Pleiades whenever they wish, granted that they return to earth to give sufficient reports on the activities of the Homo Sapiens and their health

Lucien, Son of Jah is hereby though, sentenced for life in the vicinity of the lower atmosphere and land mass of earth.

He can never be allowed travel to Pleiades, nor any planet of the Universe, including those not within the Council. He will be allowed some technology and materials for his comfort but he will be required to settle away from the Homo Sapiens and have no contact of influence with them.
All his titles as Prince of Pleiades, Ambassador, Chief Pilot of the Fleet, Computer Designer, and Master of Technological Science will be stripped, He will be allowed Holographic conferences with his family, but forbidden to live with his family members. We will allow one visit a year.

There will be no appeal in his sentencing before his natural death on Earth, He is to be quarantined, as well as the Homo Erectus and Sapien Species. He is not allowed to be near any female of species of either type.

This sentencing of the Son of Jah, Lucifer to the vicinity of the earth is hearby sealed this day in front of the council of Universal Witnesses and his Father.

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Do you think this is how it really happened? I dont know who wrote this but its much more interesting than a talking snake in a tree.
I looked up Homo Erectus cause it sounded funny and it was indeed the name scientists gave a early species of hominid.
This is a fun sci fi piece of writing to read. But Im wondering if its how it really happened.

Thoughts?

How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! Isaiah 14:12

New Living Translation (2007)


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(copyfree source for distribution)


This is the Pleiadian decree in Union with the Universal Council of Galaxies

You Lucien, Son of Jah of Alcyone Pleiades, is hereby sentenced to have all your titles stripped of acknowledgement and use in representation as a Pleiadian and Universal Membership. Your Piloting license is forever suspended. You will not be accessed to any craft or be allowed to pilot any craft inside or beyond earth’s atmosphere. Your computer fingerprint and Iris code and voice command will be deactivated. You will not be able to use any Pleiadian computer. You will not have possession of Star Chart programs and any updates and discoveries of Universal Missions will not be given you , nor any scientific documents pertaining or relating to your research into planetary primitive DNA.

Your Father’s research into the Homo Erectus species of earth and his and yours project will be halted from any further development of the so named Homo Sapien of your creation. The subjects of earth will be halted from any further experimentation. All lab equipment will be removed from the premises . All records of the DNA transfusion experiment will be confiscated

Earth is hereby quarantined to allow the natural development of its evolution, including to and adapting to you and your Brothers and Fathers intervention in the Matter which was granted by the Universal Council and Withdrawn. A separate case is pending.

All craft in either of the named Galaxies will be severely limited in access to earth. We will erect detectors to monitor exploration activity that will not be allowed during the indefinite quarantine of Earth which has sofar been sentenced to ___thousands of years. All technology will be forbidden to the Homo Sapien species. They are to live in their natural environment except to be taught primitive agriculture and weaving and simple tools. No Pleiadian will be allowed to show the Homo Sapiens any of our knowledge or they will be justly sentenced.

Your Father and Brother and sufficient number of researchers can stay and monitor the Homo Sapiens activity. However they will be allowed full transport to Pleiades whenever they wish, granted that they return to earth to give sufficient reports on the activities of the Homo Sapiens and their health

Lucien, Son of Jah is hereby though, sentenced for life in the vicinity of the lower atmosphere and land mass of earth.

He can never be allowed travel to Pleiades, nor any planet of the Universe, including those not within the Council. He will be allowed some technology and materials for his comfort but he will be required to settle away from the Homo Sapiens and have no contact of influence with them.
All his titles as Prince of Pleiades, Ambassador, Chief Pilot of the Fleet, Computer Designer, and Master of Technological Science will be stripped, He will be allowed Holographic conferences with his family, but forbidden to live with his family members. We will allow one visit a year.

There will be no appeal in his sentencing before his natural death on Earth, He is to be quarantined, as well as the Homo Erectus and Sapien Species. He is not allowed to be near any female of species of either type.

This sentencing of the Son of Jah, Lucifer to the vicinity of the earth is hearby sealed this day in front of the council of Universal Witnesses and his Father.

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Reminds me of the Ancient Aliens show. Or the Soup Nazi

NO PILOTING FOR YOU !

and they rip the wing emblem from his cool futuristic Uniform

Isa. 14:12; the verse is rendered in the Authorized Version as: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" The passage in question is a song of derision over the downfall of a Babylonian king; the figure used may trace back to a Hebrew or Babylonian astral myth like the Greek story of Phaethon, in which the day-star is cast out of heaven because of presumption. The term Lucifer is never used in Jewish legend; but Christian writers identified Lucifer with Satan who, according to the gospels (Luke 10:18), fell from heaven like lighting; accordingly, Lucifer became one of the terms for the devil in Christian theology.

[link to newprotestants.com]

This sounds accurate.

I do not associate Lucifer with "Satan". But I do think the reason Satan was disgraced was because he challenged YHWH and said he could do a better job. So God said do what you will.. Satan is the ruler of this planet as of now. Its clear by the governments and the temptation of Jesus.. He showed him the world and said.. I will give you all this.. If you just fall on your knees and give me one act of warship. Satan would not have dont that had he not had the world to give..
Satan is the God of this age. So in a way.. Lucifer may have been the God of the good age. Which makes since. As this age comes to an end we will again see the light, the good take over.

Malachi 4:1and 2.

For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.


So the sun (son) of righteousness will come back.. Maybe the sun (star) of righteousness is Lucifer.

SO APOLLO DE DERP DE DERP I KNOW NOTHING PLS HELP ME SNIFF MMY BUT FOR KNOWLEDG THAT MEANS NOTHING. EAT THE GARBAGE STORE THE FOOD BLAH BLAH YOUR ALL DUMB

Jehovah is not a Daddy. Jehovah is a PLANET that orbits Alcyone. Also known as Thiaoouba. Pronounced he hoo vah, sort of . both terms. The people of this planet help babysit earth. They are the ones who lead Moses out of Egypt, feed manna from craft, provided a bunch more than the 10 commandments that survived and also fried Sodom and Gommorah. And a few other nasty places on this world over time.