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Éireann
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It's unfortunate that you can not see how one compliments the other. When you consider theoretical physics and quantum theory, the beauty of creation only lends further credence to an omnipotent creator.

I wish people could see what I see :)
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Please elaborate on that for me. I am really interested. I don't believe in closing any doors. I just go where I believe the evidence points and not where I would wish it would point. By believing whatever supports my own personal beliefs and discarding anything else is dangerous.

Anyways I would really like to hear what you have to say because you sound like an intelligent person unlike the 2 crackpots who posted below you.
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Well, first off, we should probably establish that I do not believe that the Bible is the infallible word of God. I've spent my life studying Creation Myths and religions as far back as we can go at this point, and no matter which one I read, whether Pantheistic or Monotheistic, I see the same universal concepts in each story and there is always one supreme god that rules over the other gods. This idea that there is one singular god is the foundation for our modern monotheistic beliefs.

Now most people would say I'm full of the devil or whatever helps them hold steadfast to whatever truth they believe guides their very existence and that's ok. Each of us has a unique perspective of God and the Universe and this perspective is what defines us as individuals. There is no person who is more right or more wrong than the other unless those beliefs instigate behavior that threatens to harm other human beings. All of this being written here is my personal opinion based on how I perceive God, the Universe and, thus, myself.

Ever since I was a little girl I've seen in nature what I call "God Clues". This is hard for me to explain to other people who hold that this physical existence is permanent - meaning that regardless of what they see as a spiritual existence after this life, they still hold that a person will experience every lasting pain or pleasure based on their beliefs. I, however, see things a bit differently. :)

For me there is no devil only erroneous human thinking that is alter to the Mind of God. As I believe that God is All-in-All, Supreme, Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent, and the only Mind, there is no room for an entity that has power over me other than God. God is Perfect. He can not create anything that is unlike himself. To do so would be like matter and anti-matter canceling the other out. They simply can not exist in the same space and time. So as God can only create that which is like himself, then I am a perfect creation of God. It is necessary for me to explain these things so that you can see how the inferior physical or "matter" state of our current paradigm shows me clues to our superior spiritual state of being.

Recently, there was a discovery by a scientist that showed ghostly images of the universe that existed prior to the one that banged into being and in which we currently exist. To me this is a God Clue. It shows me that we always have been and always will be and the same matter that exploded, expanded, contracted, and then exploded again signals to me the truth of an Infinite Divine. Even Einstein understood that energy could neither be created nor destroyed (as if its existence always has been), and that this energy could only change forms. The same matter that makes up the stars, planets and the universe resides in my physical body and when I die those same elements will become grass, flowers, etc.. My physical form as it appears now doesn't cease to exist - it simply changes form.

Now I could write a novel on this and bore the living crap out of everyone on this thread and I'd prefer not to do that. I simply believe that every individual reflects God as they understand him even if his choices manifest in a reflection that is vile. Our choices create who we are in this physical existence and are what cause Man's suffering. By making better choices and being individually responsible for the consequences of those choices we come to better reflect and understand God. It is an individual journey and to me science is proving every day what I know to be the true nature of my being.

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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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We are slowly falling into a supermassive black hole.
The closer we get the slower time goes by for us but faster for things outside our perspective. This makes the universe appear to be accellerating in its expansion, but its just an illusion created by space/time compression.
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I like the way you think.
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It's unfortunate that you can not see how one compliments the other. When you consider theoretical physics and quantum theory, the beauty of creation only lends further credence to an omnipotent creator.

I wish people could see what I see :)
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Please elaborate on that for me. I am really interested. I don't believe in closing any doors. I just go where I believe the evidence points and not where I would wish it would point. By believing whatever supports my own personal beliefs and discarding anything else is dangerous.

Anyways I would really like to hear what you have to say because you sound like an intelligent person unlike the 2 crackpots who posted below you.
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Well, first off, we should probably establish that I do not believe that the Bible is the infallible word of God. I've spent my life studying Creation Myths and religions as far back as we can go at this point, and no matter which one I read, whether Pantheistic or Monotheistic, I see the same universal concepts in each story and there is always one supreme god that rules over the other gods. This idea that there is one singular god is the foundation for our modern monotheistic beliefs.

Now most people would say I'm full of the devil or whatever helps them hold steadfast to whatever truth they believe guides their very existence and that's ok. Each of us has a unique perspective of God and the Universe and this perspective is what defines us as individuals. There is no person who is more right or more wrong than the other unless those beliefs instigate behavior that threatens to harm other human beings. All of this being written here is my personal opinion based on how I perceive God, the Universe and, thus, myself.

Ever since I was a little girl I've seen in nature what I call "God Clues". This is hard for me to explain to other people who hold that this physical existence is permanent - meaning that regardless of what they see as a spiritual existence after this life, they still hold that a person will experience every lasting pain or pleasure based on their beliefs. I, however, see things a bit differently. :)

For me there is no devil only erroneous human thinking that is alter to the Mind of God. As I believe that God is All-in-All, Supreme, Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent, and the only Mind, there is no room for an entity that has power over me other than God. God is Perfect. He can not create anything that is unlike himself. To do so would be like matter and anti-matter canceling the other out. They simply can not exist in the same space and time. So as God can only create that which is like himself, then I am a perfect creation of God. It is necessary for me to explain these things so that you can see how the inferior physical or "matter" state of our current paradigm shows me clues to our superior spiritual state of being.

Recently, there was a discovery by a scientist that showed ghostly images of the universe that existed prior to the one that banged into being and in which we currently exist. To me this is a God Clue. It shows me that we always have been and always will be and the same matter that exploded, expanded, contracted, and then exploded again signals to me the truth of an Infinite Divine. Even Einstein understood that energy could neither be created nor destroyed (as if its existence always has been), and that this energy could only change forms. The same matter that makes up the stars, planets and the universe resides in my physical body and when I die those same elements will become grass, flowers, etc.. My physical form as it appears now doesn't cease to exist - it simply changes form.

Now I could write a novel on this and bore the living crap out of everyone on this thread and I'd prefer not to do that. I simply believe that every individual reflects God as they understand him even if his choices manifest in a reflection that is vile. Our choices create who we are in this physical existence and are what cause Man's suffering. By making better choices and being individually responsible for the consequences of those choices we come to better reflect and understand God. It is an individual journey and to me science is proving every day what I know to be the true nature of my being.
 Quoting: Éireann


Very, very interesting. I love your point of view and agree with much you say. I really find the Einstein part interesting because you're not the first person I've met with a similar set of beliefs. You make a very strong and thoughtful case
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Recommended readings Eireann?
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What on earth makes you think science has all the answers and disproves the existence of God?
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Science has NEVER claimed to have all the answers, how can it?
It's business is finding answers.

It's a progressive process.

A PROCESS.

If it thought it had all the answers there would never be any progress see?

Only religion claims to have all the answers already, it's static dogma, it does not progress.

Besides, I don't see any explanation in your bible for galactic rotation curves.

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God is Pure Energy (" I AM the Light of the world.")

Pure Energy is Intelligent and AWARE

REALITY is awareness of Energy Flow.

Energy is Forever.
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What is Energy then?

And after explaining how this Energy is perceived please explain clearly why a Bible quote is exactly relevant to the issue.
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There is no such thing as dark matter.

Scientists invented it to explain why they HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE why the Universe doesn't fit their predictions.
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it's 'dark'matter as much as our current space is 'light' matter. a more techy definition would be antimatter (opposite our own)
atoms at our space are nucleus in the middle, positive charged *stuff* around that, and negatively charged *stuff* buzzing around that. 'dark'matter is the opposite, with negatives in the middle and positives around the outside. upon contact with our *stuff* that *stuff* will negate ours and ours theirs and release a little energy and annihilate our stuff and their stuff altogether. everything has it's opposite, just like JC has satan and g_d has *nothing* (<<mind you, nothing being absolute nothing, not a lack of something opposite g_d)

like this i guess; g_d=infinity, !g_d=nothing; or as the 'opposite' of any number would be the negative of that number.

we only say the universe is more 'dark'matter. if you don't believe in science then why would you believe in our hypothesis? also it's probably only a guess, evident by the fact that we can only even 'see' a certain amount of our local universe. the statement should probably read *the OBSERVABLE (aka measurable) universe is PROBABLY more antimatter than matter*

science doesn't make us fucktards unless we use it irresponsibly. with knowledge and power (science) comes great responsibility (use it for creation or destruction).

also science requires an 'open' mind not a 'closed' one. all true innovation comes with knowledge as a pre req and a creative influence as a necessity to proceed.

also i took engineering and math classes. i see myself as a scientist (someone seeking truths and a way to better today/tomorrow) yet i still believe in g_d. it's called a leap of faith (or at least studious attempts at interpreting the book).

also "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." - 1 John 4:3 (KJV)
notice a double negative in there. i could show you some logic statements to explain it, but essentially...
if you deny JC is here and deny he's g_d, you're the antichrist
if you say that JC is here and he is g_d then you're a true christian
and you'll probably ask 'what if satan is a JC imposter?' the bible statement above says there isn't a satan unless you don't believe in JC. so in the end we have the capacity to be christian or SATAN and it's a choice which one you become. ultimately only you can become satan, he doesn't exist externally. look up INTENTIONAL OBJECT it's something you're all missing in your insults.

***scientists can quote the bible, too. we just don't rely on it to keep living, or else we'd all probably still be in huts and throwing sticks and rocks at each other.

you kind of already are throwing sticks by calling us fucktards. and be nice when you insult someone so that you'll hear their evidence to refute you (possibly enlightening you). otherwise you're asking for with more power to come and tell you how to think.

lots of mispelling in here, but i don't think anyone rly cares
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Recommended readings Eireann?
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Oh wow! I've read 1000s of books and papers. I guess I can make a short list.

Understanding archetypes and their place in religion, culture and human consciousness is a good start. Anything by Joseph Campbell, Jung, and the collected works of Plato is a good start.

For the issues about duality in human consciousness I'd recommend Nietzsche. He is vital for understanding why we do what we do and how to overcome it. He lays it down on the line for why we keep repeating the same old crap eon after eon. Very misunderstood writer. He's taken out of context way too often.

Sören Kirkegard is another philosopher I recommend. He is a Christian philosopher and he really changed my whole mindset about "preaching" and how to understand each individual's condition instead of assuming. He taught me some serious humility.

For the metaphysical stuff - wow - lots of books. Science & Health w/key to the Scriptures by Mary Baker Eddy. Any of her stuff is good, but wow...you'll need a dictionary! The Teachings of the Buddha, Aristotle's writings on Being. Wow. I've read way too much.

Edit to add: Creation story comparisons are a great thing to do for personal growth. I compared the Summarian creation story, The Enuma Elish with the 2 creations stories in the Bible. Genesis Chapter 1 is the one where God is Spirit and makes Man in his image and likeness, and then Genesis Chapter 2 has God making man again out of the dust of the ground.

Other great creation stories is the Nordic creation story.

Here is a page from About dot com that has a synopsis as well as links to other creation stories.

[link to ancienthistory.about.com]

I would list all of the books, but I've been studying this kind of thing since I was a freshmen in High School. Yeah...I'm a bit of a geek :/

Also, best docu-movie I've ever seen that moved me to the core was "What the Bleep Do We Know?". After watching it, I realized that I was not the only one who saw things a little differently.

Each of us defines God as we perceive our current state of being and understanding, so don't go into these readings looking for any other path to understanding but your own :)

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Éireann~

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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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For the poster who asked me for a selected readings list.
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Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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For the poster who asked me for a selected readings list.
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Sorry I didn't get back sooner.... been busy. Thank you for the list. Some great suggestions it looks like. Much appreciated
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Actually it's the science and discipline of observing/measuring the effects of the surroundings. It is literally not possible to directly observe something else without some intermediating force. Dark matter is a theory used to explain the effects that are observed.

If you think about it with some critical discernment, light matter is also a theory used to explain the effects (i.e. that we are seeing things, hearing things, feeling things) that are observed.

We don't see matter, we see light hologrammically formatted as self-experience.
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Good response!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Science is the discipline of OBSERVING and MEASURING your surroundings and forming logical conclusions from your observations that can then be investigated to turn your hypothesis into fact.

The problem with "dark matter" is that we have no way to observe or measure it. Yet this constitutes 83% of the known universe.

so tell me science tards, if our mightiest intellects can only observe and draw theories from 17% of the universe, can't even figure out how to observe or measure dark energy.


What on earth makes you think science has all the answers and in the case of low iq God hating science groupies, disproves the existence of God?

sounds to me like your brand of science is more akin to an intellectual religion.
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check out robert morningsky,he talks of dark matter.hes fucking awsome! he also has 'terrapapers' on 7thfire.biz.
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Sorry I didn't get back sooner.... been busy. Thank you for the list. Some great suggestions it looks like. Much appreciated
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No worries :) I'm happy to help if I can.

Best wishes on your journey :)
Éireann~

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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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Dark matter is dark
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I think you'll find that it's very dark.
You will definitely need a torch to see where you're going.
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Dark matter is dark
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I think you'll find that it's very dark.
You will definitely need a torch to see where you're going.
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Dark Matter is a rather elusive term that many scientist wish they'd never coined. It really doesn't explain what they are talking about.

Dark Matter is that which is, currently, invisible to us yet it can be measured. The proof of its existence is shown in the "pushing" of objects through out the universe. It has physical properties that can not be seen, but it can be observed by how it reacts on other celestial bodies.

Yes, the momentum from the "bang" is still a force moving objects through space, but this so-called "dark matter" also has a hand in shoving things around but on a smaller scale. It has mass, but because it is invisible to the human eye or any of the technology man currently has invented to see the universe, the only way we know it is there is by observing its effects on other matter in the universe.

Think of it like this.

On a piece of paper draw two dots. Look at the space between those dots. Is that space void simply because you can not see the atoms between the dots? No, they just can not be seen with the naked eye, but we know they are there because the paper between the dots didn't cease to exist.

"There are more things on heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - William Shakespeare - Hamlet Act 1, Scene V
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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Not a religious person... but.

Dark matter and god go hand in hand.
both can't fully be explained, but both do pretty much the same thing.

Question to Biblelovers: Does god not hold all creation together?
Question to Sciencelovers: Does dark matter, the force that can't be examined but explains how galaxies hold their spiral shape?

To Answer OP: God = Darkmatter
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Show me a model that can only be answered with God, nothing vague though, an actual model where the only answer is God.
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A model where God would exist is in a model where the observable universe is actually a projection from a 2 dimensional infinitely curved surface of say that of a latticed ball, infinitelt large/small so that the cross nodes are the intesections of the 2 dimensional surface surrounding an actual 3 dimensional strata. The strata would be God as it would describe how he could both be in all and through all.

As the God strata would be the real universe, we would be mearly in his image. And the universe as we see it would be only a function of pi squared, 22, 7ths. So that 98.5577 of the universe would be unfound, and the informational function would make up about 1.44 pecent of the actual universe.

If this was so, then by attempting to observe at the quantum level, the point of observation would affect the attributes of said information, so that we'd be able to mathematically predict out velocities of particles, but this would blurr the image of said particle to the point it dissapears, or you could focus at the intersections and observe the particle, but then the illusion of velocity would disappeared to the point of illusion of spin, up spin if your veiwing the outside of a ring, down spin if observed from the inner area, as it would be the curve of a curved surface.

One way to prove it would to observe light at the quantum level. The act of observation would bend reality of the wave nature of light with a holograph image of a particle, with an overlaying holographic effect of a wave pattern.

This would be so because the strata would be conscience because of the complexity of connection. It would be a super-conscience. And as such would be ultra rational. The 2d world would have the appearance of 3 dimensions like the 2d skin of a balloon inflated with air. And the point of observation would change the appearance.

Life would be illusion imposed on a higher reality.
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It's funny that Scientists have to have more faith, believing in theories (unproven, by definition), than most Religious people, to believe what they are presented.
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You're confusing the word hypothesis with the word theory.
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Your ignorance about science is the last thing that is going to convert me to a religion.

Obviously, the Nordic Goddess Hel is the one who made the dark matter. Duh.

Or do you think it was your Babylonian god of storms 'Yahweh' who did it?
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Look it up! Your religion is no longer a secret trusted only to the elites in Rome. Everyone can find out exactly which pantheon your one god comes from. (Yahweh had brothers and lovers and fathers!)
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Dark matter = space
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Science is the discipline of OBSERVING and MEASURING your surroundings and forming logical conclusions from your observations that can then be investigated to turn your hypothesis into fact.

The problem with "dark matter" is that we have no way to observe or measure it. Yet this constitutes 83% of the known universe.

so tell me science tards, if our mightiest intellects can only observe and draw theories from 17% of the universe, can't even figure out how to observe or measure dark energy.


What on earth makes you think science has all the answers and in the case of low iq God hating science groupies, disproves the existence of God?

sounds to me like your brand of science is more akin to an intellectual religion.
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Dark energy and dark matter are two different things.
Dark matter's estimated to make up around 25% of the universe, not 86%.
Really not sure where you're getting your numbers from at all, any of them in fact.
It's as if you're making them up to lend weight to your rant.

Whilst it's true that no-one knows what dark matter is, that doesn't mean that it won't be found out in the future. What WILL happen is that hypotheses will be put forward and tested until we do know.
It certainly doesn't mean that because we don't know we should categorise it in the "god did it" bracket.


The only people who think that scientists believe they know all of the answers are non-scientists.
And why do you always go on about "disproving the existence of god"?
Science is about proof, not disproof.

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Show me a model that can only be answered with God, nothing vague though, an actual model where the only answer is God.
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Very well...

There are only two things in known existence.

The Seer - The center of consciousness which is doing the perceiving.

The Seen - That which the consciousness is perceiving.


What created the seer and that which is seen cannot be observed for it's existence must be prior to the seer for it to be the source of creation.

The seer is an image of the creator because like the creator,
it cannot be seen.
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Once upon a time we didn't know what caused lightning...

What on earth makes you think science has all the answers and disproves the existence of God?
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Science has NEVER claimed to have all the answers, how can it?
Its business is finding answers.

Its a progressive process.

A PROCESS.

If it thought it had all the answers there would never be any progress see?
 Quoting: Lucky Charms

Or, as your countryman Dara Ó Briain put it: "Science doesn't know everything? Science knows it doesn't know everything, otherwise it'd stop."

Only religion claims to have all the answers already, it's static dogma, it does not progress.
 Quoting: Lucky Charms

Dogma is the death of inquiry.
By shedding dogma and following the scientific method we've discovered and learned more about the universe during the last 400 years then during the preceding 40,000 years.

Besides, I don't see any explanation in your bible for galactic rotation curves.
 Quoting: Lucky Charms

Or much of anything else in the physical world.
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"There are more things on heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - William Shakespeare - Hamlet Act 1, Scene V
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Polonius was a twit.
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