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don't argue sitchin with me, honey.
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

Don't call me "honey." And I'm not arguing "sitchin," I'm simply telling you that what he claimed is not a rogue planet by definition. A planet that orbits a star is not a rogue planet.
it goes back to the birth of our system. that's when Nibiru was captured by our system as a rogue planet.
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Then it's no longer a rogue planet, it's a captured planet. Regardless of how the claim says it came to be here, it's not a rogue planet.
you're the astronomer, you explain uranus on its side, and the chevron scar on miranda.
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Simple. The early solar system was a violent place with protoplanets colliding with each other. It does not require the presence of a "rogue planet" nor even a captured planet. Sedna may be an example of a captured planet, though it's only a dwarf planet.
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Mike Browns take on Sedna:
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Variations on a theme called Tyche. Has nothing to do with "Nibiru." These are not the same things. Words have meaning, Nibiru suggests a massive planet with an orbital period of 3600 years and therefore a semi-major axis of about 235 AUs and an eccentricity that brings it into the inner solar system, Tyche suggests a massive planet with a semi-major axis measured in the 10's of thousands of AUs, and an eccentricity that does not bring it into the inner solar system.
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It is well known that Sitchin did call Nibiru the invader.

Sitchin insisted it's 10'th planet 30:00

It would be rather inappropriate to call a planet invader in the title of this article. For a scientist, of course
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the point is that sitchin's theory states it was at one time a rogue planet and its initial interference seeded life on earth. nobody said it was still a rogue planet.
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Lefty did. He said Sitchin was saying it was a rogue planet.
not sure if this has been addressed yet, but this proves exactly how unfamiliar with sitchin's work lefty is.
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Fixed.
we'll take it from the experts, thank you very much
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Sitchin is not an expert in astronomy.
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actually, i did say it STARTED as a rogue planet. it's obviously not a rogue planet NOW, as it orbits the sun. it's not like you told me anything new with that, Cutie.

and the "experts" referred to are ancient man, whose records reached back thousands of years and who, fortunately, were not bound by our modern assumptions.

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thanks, i think i will, Hot-stuff.

incidentally, Sitchin said PLANET Nibiru is at least 130 years out. tell me how visible that should be.
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no answer for that, astroshill?
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no?
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No. And now it's a star, not a planet? Just a minute ago you said it wasn't a brown dwarf, now you're saying it's a star?
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no, that was a fucking typo you pedantic cunt.
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Oh right, "typo." Sure, I can see that, star and planet are nearly the same word. Happens to me all the time.
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thanks, i think i will, Hot-stuff.

incidentally, Sitchin said PLANET Nibiru is at least 130 years out. tell me how visible that should be.
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no answer for that, astroshill?
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no?
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Post the orbital elements you claimed are in his book and I'll tell you. You still refuse to answer the question, yet you demand answers to questions that depend on the answer you refuse to give.
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Free-floating “rogue” planets may occasionally dip into the inner Solar System, according to new research by the University of Buckingham Centre for Astrobiology in the UK.


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A few hundred thousand billion free-floating life-bearing Earth-sized planets may exist in the space between stars in the Milky Way.
Since 1995, when the first extrasolar planet was reported, interest in searching for planets has reached a feverish pitch. The 750 or so detections of exoplanets are all of planets orbiting stars, and very few, if any, have been deemed potential candidates for life.
The possibility of a much larger number of planets was first suggested in earlier studies where the effects of gravitational lensing of distant quasars by intervening planet-sized bodies were measured.
Recently several groups of investigators have suggested that a few billion such objects could exist in the galaxy. Wickramasinghe and team have increased this grand total of planets to a few hundred thousand billion (a few thousand for every Milky Way star) - each one harbouring the legacy of cosmic primordial life.

Reference:
Wickramasinghe NC et al (2012). Life-bearing primordial planets in the solar vicinity. Astrophysics and Space Science; DOI 10.1007/s10509-012-1092-8
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No. And now it's a star, not a planet? Just a minute ago you said it wasn't a brown dwarf, now you're saying it's a star?
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no, that was a fucking typo you pedantic cunt.
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Oh right, "typo." Sure, I can see that, star and planet are nearly the same word. Happens to me all the time.
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thanks, i think i will, Hot-stuff.

incidentally, Sitchin said PLANET Nibiru is at least 130 years out. tell me how visible that should be.
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


no answer for that, astroshill?
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no?
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


Post the orbital elements you claimed are in his book and I'll tell you. You still refuse to answer the question, yet you demand answers to questions that depend on the answer you refuse to give.
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oh really? thank you that's very helpful.

well, it being a minimum of 130 years out should give you an idea of its distance in AU.

tell me....how visible would it be if it were also 30 degrees below the ecliptic?

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no answer for that, astroshill?
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no?
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Post the orbital elements you claimed are in his book and I'll tell you. You still refuse to answer the question, yet you demand answers to questions that depend on the answer you refuse to give.
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oh really? thank you that's very helpful.

well, it being a minimum of 130 years out should give you an idea of its distance in AU.
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

No, post the orbital elements. Telling me the time to perihelion and nothing more tells me jack shit. Post the orbital elements of your claim.
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tell me....how visible would it be if it were also 30 degrees below the ecliptic?
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Has nothing to do with it. I can observe 30 degrees below the ecliptic with no trouble at all.
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as the planet passes, one must go back to the safe- haven, a place of zero polarity, a place that offers, no spin, immune to reverse direction, and polarity shift. back to the naval, [galactica omega].this point will be marked, as a sign, at 2012, end of calendar. polsun phenomena.judgement day. watch for the smoke and mirrors, leading up to the day of judgement. you are seeing them now.hf
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tell me....how visible would it be if it were also 30 degrees below the ecliptic?
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Has nothing to do with it. I can observe 30 degrees below the ecliptic with no trouble at all.
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even as far out as 130 years (at a minimum, more likely to be well over 250 years away)...how easy would it be to find if it was a PLANET, in a retrograde orbit, AT LEAST 30 degrees below the ecliptic?

that's OBVIOUSLY something that's just plainly visible to even to least trained amateur astronomer, right? totally. shouldn't even need a looking glass or even a chart, huh, Hot-Tits?

especially since absolutely ALL the points in our sky have been charted, recorded, and named, right? they have been, haven't they? and especially since this phenomenon has not been recorded by modern science, that should make it easier to see, if it's there, right -- among the thousands and thousands of lights in the sky, right? because astronomers never make new discoveries in old star charts, right? hm. guess i should just point my glass at the sky. if it's not there, then everyone else must be wrong. the onus is never on you, the others should do all the work, right? how about you stop shilling the nibiru threads and explore the forum, i hear they talk about a lot out there.

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most people , will not be convinced, learn from this , that information, is power, and it will be seen, that it will virtually be 'yourself'only that will be saved. even friends and family. save yourself. it is gods will.
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inverted nipples.
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at the point of galactica omega, experienced a deformation, changing its structure, from centripetal, to centrifugal vortex, beneficial, for a polsun phenomena.
emf,s mark the point of polsun phenomena connection. touch down. back to the light,
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tell me....how visible would it be if it were also 30 degrees below the ecliptic?
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Has nothing to do with it. I can observe 30 degrees below the ecliptic with no trouble at all.
 Quoting: Astromut


even as far out as 130 years (at a minimum, more likely to be well over 250 years away)...how easy would it be to find if it was a PLANET, in a retrograde orbit, AT LEAST 30 degrees below the ecliptic?
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

Nothing you said would make it difficult. Now answer the question, what are the orbital elements? It's not possible to actually answer your original question without the elements, and rather than provide them, you keep throwing up ridiculous red herrings that would not actually prevent discovery by amateur astronomers but you act like it would.
Hot-Tits?
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Stop putting words in my mouth and stop calling me names. There are many serious amateur astronomers out there, myself included, who are far more experienced at observing the skies than most other people and are fully capable of finding and plotting the orbits of objects in space, even some TPTB would rather us not know about.
especially since absolutely ALL the points in our sky have been charted, recorded, and named, right?
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All-sky surveys have indeed been conducted, including by amateurs.
how about you stop shilling the nibiru threads
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How about you stop calling me names and answer the fucking question. WHAT ARE THE ORBITAL ELEMENTS?! ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION OR THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER.
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tell me....how visible would it be if it were also 30 degrees below the ecliptic?
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Has nothing to do with it. I can observe 30 degrees below the ecliptic with no trouble at all.
 Quoting: Astromut


even as far out as 130 years (at a minimum, more likely to be well over 250 years away)...how easy would it be to find if it was a PLANET, in a retrograde orbit, AT LEAST 30 degrees below the ecliptic?
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

Nothing you said would make it difficult. Now answer the question, what are the orbital elements? It's not possible to actually answer your original question without the elements, and rather than provide them, you keep throwing up ridiculous red herrings that would not actually prevent discovery by amateur astronomers but you act like it would.
Hot-Tits?
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Stop putting words in my mouth and stop calling me names. There are many serious amateur astronomers out there, myself included, who are far more experienced at observing the skies than most other people and are fully capable of finding and plotting the orbits of objects in space, even some TPTB would rather us not know about.
especially since absolutely ALL the points in our sky have been charted, recorded, and named, right?
 Quoting: lefty

All-sky surveys have indeed been conducted, including by amateurs.
how about you stop shilling the nibiru threads
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How about you stop calling me names and answer the fucking question. WHAT ARE THE ORBITAL ELEMENTS?! ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION OR THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER.
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how about this. i'm giving you information from a book that is not compiled as a report. i WOULD literally, need to type out an entire 30+ page chapter to give you the information that professional astronomers have found on this, as it is not presented in point-form. frankly, i don't feel like putting the effort of distilling the information from this source for someone like you. go do some reading.
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Hot-Tits
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How about you stop calling me names.
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you mean you didn't notice i was trolling you there?
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Has nothing to do with it. I can observe 30 degrees below the ecliptic with no trouble at all.
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even as far out as 130 years (at a minimum, more likely to be well over 250 years away)...how easy would it be to find if it was a PLANET, in a retrograde orbit, AT LEAST 30 degrees below the ecliptic?
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

Nothing you said would make it difficult. Now answer the question, what are the orbital elements? It's not possible to actually answer your original question without the elements, and rather than provide them, you keep throwing up ridiculous red herrings that would not actually prevent discovery by amateur astronomers but you act like it would.
Hot-Tits?
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Stop putting words in my mouth and stop calling me names. There are many serious amateur astronomers out there, myself included, who are far more experienced at observing the skies than most other people and are fully capable of finding and plotting the orbits of objects in space, even some TPTB would rather us not know about.
especially since absolutely ALL the points in our sky have been charted, recorded, and named, right?
 Quoting: lefty

All-sky surveys have indeed been conducted, including by amateurs.
how about you stop shilling the nibiru threads
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How about you stop calling me names and answer the fucking question. WHAT ARE THE ORBITAL ELEMENTS?! ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION OR THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER.
 Quoting: Astromut


how about this. i'm giving you information from a book that is not compiled as a report. i WOULD literally, need to type out an entire 30+ page chapter
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

WRONG! You would only need to type the six orbital elements of the object, that's it, six fucking numbers. You can't do it because it doesn't exist in your "30+ page report." It's not up to me to waste my time reading your 30 page report only to find out it's not there, it's up to you to post the elements, especially since you're asking a question that requires that information. You have completely and utterly failed, you are totally debunked, this discussion is over.
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Hot-Tits
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How about you stop calling me names.
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you mean you didn't notice i was trolling you there?
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That's all you are, a troll, and a waste of time. We're done.
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even as far out as 130 years (at a minimum, more likely to be well over 250 years away)...how easy would it be to find if it was a PLANET, in a retrograde orbit, AT LEAST 30 degrees below the ecliptic?
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

Nothing you said would make it difficult. Now answer the question, what are the orbital elements? It's not possible to actually answer your original question without the elements, and rather than provide them, you keep throwing up ridiculous red herrings that would not actually prevent discovery by amateur astronomers but you act like it would.
Hot-Tits?
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Stop putting words in my mouth and stop calling me names. There are many serious amateur astronomers out there, myself included, who are far more experienced at observing the skies than most other people and are fully capable of finding and plotting the orbits of objects in space, even some TPTB would rather us not know about.
especially since absolutely ALL the points in our sky have been charted, recorded, and named, right?
 Quoting: lefty

All-sky surveys have indeed been conducted, including by amateurs.
how about you stop shilling the nibiru threads
 Quoting: lefty

How about you stop calling me names and answer the fucking question. WHAT ARE THE ORBITAL ELEMENTS?! ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION OR THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER.
 Quoting: Astromut


how about this. i'm giving you information from a book that is not compiled as a report. i WOULD literally, need to type out an entire 30+ page chapter
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

WRONG! You would only need to type the six orbital elements of the object, that's it, six fucking numbers. You can't do it because it doesn't exist in your "30+ page report." It's not up to me to waste my time reading your 30 page report only to find out it's not there, it's up to you to post the elements, especially since you're asking a question that requires that information. You have completely and utterly failed, you are totally debunked, this discussion is over.
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what did i just say? i said that it is not written out as a report, he spends dozens of pages discussing professional and government astronomers and the real work they've done in searching for this planet. he does this in an anecdotal manner, so yes, i would have to distill this information from the rest.

if you're unaware of the real world work done on this over the last 30 years then you're not much an amateur, are you....that must be why you place "Astronomer" in "quotation marks"....

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that, and i kinda like it when you call me Lefty
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Nothing you said would make it difficult. Now answer the question, what are the orbital elements? It's not possible to actually answer your original question without the elements, and rather than provide them, you keep throwing up ridiculous red herrings that would not actually prevent discovery by amateur astronomers but you act like it would.
...

Stop putting words in my mouth and stop calling me names. There are many serious amateur astronomers out there, myself included, who are far more experienced at observing the skies than most other people and are fully capable of finding and plotting the orbits of objects in space, even some TPTB would rather us not know about.
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All-sky surveys have indeed been conducted, including by amateurs.
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How about you stop calling me names and answer the fucking question. WHAT ARE THE ORBITAL ELEMENTS?! ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION OR THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER.
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how about this. i'm giving you information from a book that is not compiled as a report. i WOULD literally, need to type out an entire 30+ page chapter
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

WRONG! You would only need to type the six orbital elements of the object, that's it, six fucking numbers. You can't do it because it doesn't exist in your "30+ page report." It's not up to me to waste my time reading your 30 page report only to find out it's not there, it's up to you to post the elements, especially since you're asking a question that requires that information. You have completely and utterly failed, you are totally debunked, this discussion is over.
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what did i just say? i said that it is not written out as a report, he spends dozens of pages discussing professional and government astronomers and the real work they've done in searching for this planet. he does this in an anecdotal manner, so yes, i would have to distill this information from the rest
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YOU CLAIMED HE PROVIDED ORBITAL ELEMENTS AND ASTROMETRIC MEASUREMENTS USED TO DETERMINE THEM, HE EITHER DID OR HE DIDN'T, WHICH MEANS YOU EITHER LIED OR YOU DIDN'T! IF YOU TOLD THE TRUTH, POST THE SIX FUCKING ORBITAL ELEMENTS NOW!
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how about this. i'm giving you information from a book that is not compiled as a report. i WOULD literally, need to type out an entire 30+ page chapter
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

WRONG! You would only need to type the six orbital elements of the object, that's it, six fucking numbers. You can't do it because it doesn't exist in your "30+ page report." It's not up to me to waste my time reading your 30 page report only to find out it's not there, it's up to you to post the elements, especially since you're asking a question that requires that information. You have completely and utterly failed, you are totally debunked, this discussion is over.
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what did i just say? i said that it is not written out as a report, he spends dozens of pages discussing professional and government astronomers and the real work they've done in searching for this planet. he does this in an anecdotal manner, so yes, i would have to distill this information from the rest
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YOU CLAIMED HE PROVIDED ORBITAL ELEMENTS AND ASTROMETRIC MEASUREMENTS USED TO DETERMINE THEM, HE EITHER DID OR HE DIDN'T, WHICH MEANS YOU EITHER LIED OR YOU DIDN'T! IF YOU TOLD THE TRUTH, POST THE SIX FUCKING ORBITAL ELEMENTS NOW!
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what, now?
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Free-floating “rogue” planets may occasionally dip into the inner Solar System, according to new research by the University of Buckingham Centre for Astrobiology in the UK.


[link to www.universetoday.com]
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hahaha

Is this the stupid and ridiculous crap that thought up to explain away the RAPTURE that will happen very soon?

How many people do you think will buy this?
Probably most of the people left behind.

Sad, that they's believe this crap over God.
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3 of the astrometric readings, timings, and the orbital elements
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could you, perhaps, put that in laymen's terms?
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Free-floating “rogue” planets may occasionally dip into the inner Solar System, according to new research by the University of Buckingham Centre for Astrobiology in the UK.


[link to www.universetoday.com]
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hahaha

Is this the stupid and ridiculous crap that thought up to explain away the RAPTURE that will happen very soon?

How many people do you think will buy this?
Probably most of the people left behind.

Sad, that they's believe this crap over God.
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cool story, bro...
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Re: Rogue Planets Could Drive By And Scoop Up Life
don't argue sitchin with me, honey.
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

Don't call me "honey." And I'm not arguing "sitchin," I'm simply telling you that what he claimed is not a rogue planet by definition. A planet that orbits a star is not a rogue planet.
it goes back to the birth of our system. that's when Nibiru was captured by our system as a rogue planet.
 Quoting: l'eft

Then it's no longer a rogue planet, it's a captured planet. Regardless of how the claim says it came to be here, it's not a rogue planet.
you're the astronomer, you explain uranus on its side, and the chevron scar on miranda.
 Quoting: l'eft

Simple. The early solar system was a violent place with protoplanets colliding with each other. It does not require the presence of a "rogue planet" nor even a captured planet. Sedna may be an example of a captured planet, though it's only a dwarf planet.
 Quoting: Astromut


Mike Browns take on Sedna:
 Quoting: :) 15854541


Variations on a theme called Tyche. Has nothing to do with "Nibiru." These are not the same things. Words have meaning, Nibiru suggests a massive planet with an orbital period of 3600 years and therefore a semi-major axis of about 235 AUs and an eccentricity that brings it into the inner solar system, Tyche suggests a massive planet with a semi-major axis measured in the 10's of thousands of AUs, and an eccentricity that does not bring it into the inner solar system.
 Quoting: Astromut


I'll repeat Brown's point in case you missed or ignored it and its implications:

"Something had to have kicked Sedna to have given it its crazy orbit. But what?

The answer is: something large that is no longer there, or that is there, but we don’t know about yet.

This answer is astounding. The orbit of every single other object in the entire solar system can be explained, at least in principle, by some interaction with the known planets (and, again, for you Oort cloud sticklers out there, the known galactic environment). Sedna alone requires Something Else Out There."
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Re: Rogue Planets Could Drive By And Scoop Up Life
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Don't call me "honey." And I'm not arguing "sitchin," I'm simply telling you that what he claimed is not a rogue planet by definition. A planet that orbits a star is not a rogue planet.
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Then it's no longer a rogue planet, it's a captured planet. Regardless of how the claim says it came to be here, it's not a rogue planet.
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Simple. The early solar system was a violent place with protoplanets colliding with each other. It does not require the presence of a "rogue planet" nor even a captured planet. Sedna may be an example of a captured planet, though it's only a dwarf planet.
 Quoting: Astromut


Mike Browns take on Sedna:
 Quoting: :) 15854541


Variations on a theme called Tyche. Has nothing to do with "Nibiru." These are not the same things. Words have meaning, Nibiru suggests a massive planet with an orbital period of 3600 years and therefore a semi-major axis of about 235 AUs and an eccentricity that brings it into the inner solar system, Tyche suggests a massive planet with a semi-major axis measured in the 10's of thousands of AUs, and an eccentricity that does not bring it into the inner solar system.
 Quoting: Astromut


I'll repeat Brown's point in case you missed or ignored it and its implications:
 Quoting: :) 16076723

I neither missed nor ignored it. Like I said, variations on a theme called Tyche. Has nothing to do with "Nibiru." I guess you don't understand the difference between "Nibiru" and an actual valid hypothesis like Tyche. Your ignorance has somehow lead you to believe that I ignored Brown's point, which is rather amusing since that's the exact opposite of what I did.
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