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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9055913 United Kingdom 05/10/2012 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | RIGHT NOW!!! is a great programme on BBC-4 TV right now about The Moon, & how it affects the Earth, what would happen if it was too lose or far away.. presented by a very excited presenter who clearly loves the Moon. It's on right now, repeated later.. on BBC 4. Do you Americans get BBC Television over there? |
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/\ndrew User ID: 15821963 Australia 05/10/2012 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where Did the Towers Go? -Dr. Judy Wood |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9055913 United Kingdom 05/10/2012 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After decades of ridiculing the idea of life on on other worlds we're now being spoon-fed the idea every other day. This isn't going to lead to the sort of disclosure we want. It will result in being told there is an external "threat" to our planet. There IS a threat but it's not extraterrestrial, it's humans in suits and military uniforms hell bent on returning Earth to the dark ages. Quoting: /\ndrew Exactly! They're really just a bunch of fucking toddlers who's right side of their brains are fucked, but have enuff evil logic to set-up 'self-destruction' just like a toddler. This Moon documentary is quite good. It's on BBC right now. |
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Mordier L'eft User ID: 13691144 Canada 05/10/2012 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh, i understand what you're saying. i just don't think you know as much as you think you do, My Dear. Last Edited by Mordier L'eft on 05/10/2012 05:35 PM --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1412768 United States 05/10/2012 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sitchin's work doesn't rely on a brown-dwarf. Zecharia Sitchin posits the rogue-planet theory. Quoting: Mordier L'eft No, he does not. Rogue planet does not mean a planet with a 3600 year orbit, it means a planet which does not orbit any star. It has nothing to do with the "Nibiru" claims, and I don't care who it comes from. is there a way to tell between a roge planet and a 3600 year orbit planet that hasnt been discovered yet? if you find this theorical planet today, how long will take you to tell between one and the other type of. Depends on how far away it is when it's discovered. The closer, the faster. If it were going to be here this year as part of some kind of "doom" it would already have to be deep inside the inner solar system. An approximate orbit determination that would tell us the difference between a hyperbolic and a ~3600 year orbit would not take long at all. The orbit determination I've been doing on SDO for the last several days is actually much more difficult because I'm trying to make it very, very exact. and if this planet really come too close and kill almost everything and erease all your data, how could the people 3600 in the future tell that it is a periodic panet and not a roge one..?? Quoting: redSame way, basic orbital determination through astrometric measurement. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1412768 United States 05/10/2012 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh, i understand what you're saying. i just don't think you know as much as you think you do, My Dear. STOP WITH THE CUTESY NAMES! (Yes, I'd rather be openly insulted). If you want to underestimate me, be my guest. |
Mordier L'eft User ID: 13691144 Canada 05/10/2012 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh, i understand what you're saying. i just don't think you know as much as you think you do, My Dear. STOP WITH THE CUTESY NAMES! (Yes, I'd rather be openly insulted). If you want to underestimate me, be my guest. thanks, i think i will, Hot-stuff. incidentally, Sitchin said PLANET Nibiru is at least 130 years out. tell me how visible that should be. --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
Mordier L'eft User ID: 13691144 Canada 05/10/2012 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | which is one of the things Sitchin incorporates into his theories. you should read Genesis Revisited. --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1412768 United States 05/10/2012 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you are so shallow, why not let the people believe what they want, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12254902 I can't force anyone to believe anything they don't want to believe. who made you head teacher to put them right or in their place, i have not seen you make one credible statement on here without putting someone down, Quoting: ACMaybe if you tried asking an honest question you'd get a response that didn't involve any snark. Your question was not honest. You had no intention of waiting for an answer. Don't want any attitude? Don't be a dick. live your life and let them live theirs, stop poking your nose in, no-one cares what you have to say anyway. Quoting: ACNo, YOU don't care. That much is clear. You then project your personal view onto everyone else when I know for a fact you're wrong. I get messages from people who do care, even some I managed to convert. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9055913 United Kingdom 05/10/2012 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well.. whadday know.. looks like we need the Moon after all.. so I take back what I said about 'we don't need the moon' in another thread.. lol. Just watching a doc on the Moon, 'Do We Really Need The Moon' on BBC4 now. If the moon went, we'd wobble like Mars, we'd turn on our side & have a shit time!! So, any rogue planets joining us this year would really fuck the Earth up big time, would kill all life on our world very quickly, esp: us humans & mammals. Wow! Not good is it..! |
Mordier L'eft User ID: 13691144 Canada 05/10/2012 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then post his astrometric measurements, timings, and the resulting calculated orbital elements. because i don't feel like reading and typing out an entire 30+ page chapter. go do some reading, i told you which book to read. --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1412768 United States 05/10/2012 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then post his astrometric measurements, timings, and the resulting calculated orbital elements. because i don't feel like reading and typing out an entire 30+ page chapter. go do some reading, i told you which book to read. The information I requested does not require typing out a 30 page chapter. Post his astrometric readings, timings, and the resulting calculated orbital elements. It's not hard. You won't do it because it doesn't exist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8417061 United States 05/10/2012 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here we go again, Astronut right on schedule, and i quote "Nibiru doesn't exist," so just for arguments sake, we cannot prove it does, your turn, prove it does not, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12254902 You're the one with the affirmative claim, it's up to you to prove it, not for me to disprove it. That said, I do enjoy utterly destroying such claims but you don't leave me with the opportunity. Your question wasn't even honest... oh shit you cant, you was not around 3600 years ago, Quoting: ACYou sound uneducated, particularly since you didn't even wait for a response. How wonderfully open minded of you. as you always try to do to others, put up or shut up, if Nibiru does appear around the corner one day there is one thing i can quite guarantee nobody on this site will ever hear of Astronut ever again, mysteriously he will lose his internet connection and will not appear on here to apologize to hoards of people he has shot down over the years because he is a coward, for christs sake man at least try to have an open mind, you are so one dimensional. Quoting: ACI do have an open mind, more so than you do. I put these sorts of claims to the test. You accuse me of not having an open mind simply because you don't like the answer I arrive at. That's not only close minded, that's bigoted. You want me to "put up or shut up." Fine, here you go, now you can be the one who "shuts up." [link to www.springerlink.com] The minimum distance for a planet larger than mars is greater than the semi-major axis of a planet whose orbital period is "3600 years." You weren't even asking the question honestly, so clearly you don't care what I have to say. If you would have an "open mind" you wouldn't be writing 'No, it doesn't. Nibiru doesn't exist'. Besides, it's a claim from your side, and you cannot prove it, and because there isn't a way for you to prove it, AC 12254902 didn't need to wait for your response. Touche. Lots of energized left brain thinking in today's world. Many things exist in our universe that we cannot conceptualize or prove in our limited minds. I'm not saying that Nibiru exists (I don't personally know), but I'm also not ruling out that such an thing could exist. I'll find out when I find out. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1412768 United States 05/10/2012 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then post his astrometric measurements, timings, and the resulting calculated orbital elements. because i don't feel like reading and typing out an entire 30+ page chapter. go do some reading, i told you which book to read. The information I requested does not require typing out a 30 page chapter. Post his astrometric readings, timings, and the resulting calculated orbital elements. It's not hard. You won't do it because it doesn't exist. Here, I'll even make it easier; just post 3 of the astrometric readings, timings, and the orbital elements. That should take you less time than it took me to write these two posts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15507867 United Kingdom 05/10/2012 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sitchin makes claim to the last passing of the sun by Nibiru was around the time of ezekiel around 550 BC... Of course he also posits that the naki's would be coming and going from their planet way before it got to the closest point to the sun as it would be travelling too fast. he posits around halfway so outwardly from sun to halfway would be 900 years - 1800 years to furthest poinmt and 2700 years to halfway towards the sun and 3600 for a full orbit. At 900 (halfway outwards they are returning ot their planet and at 2700 3/4 full orbit they would be arriving. Work this out in the maths. He doesnt claim exactly the 900 and 2700 he says probably before it reaches the sun or furthest distance from. Think about the time of ezekiel he went up into space did he not in machine. Now think about 550 years later - thats right around the time of Jesus the very same time that Nibiru would be around 500 years FRom the sun on its outward journey and slowing down...! It makes perfect sense. Now add 550 to 2012 it makes 2562 years. If a 3600 year orbit, which even he says is debatable giving a span of around 3400 years to 3600 years, nibiru is over 1000 years away from the sun. Now say it is a 3400 year orbit Nibiru is around 850 years or so away from the sun and speeding up. Those boys and girls on nibiru are gonna be mighty hungry if they are starting to wake up about now. our moon in suggested as being a moon FROM nibiru called Kingu, that when nibiru smashed into Tiamat (earth0 it was left behind. We are the mixed genetic creation of Homo erectus and the anunaki. It makes perfect sense truly it does... there was link to a one hour lecture sitchin gave it truly is awesome and I for one believe it more likely than evolution. On temple mount there are stones that are over 800 TONS in weight it is suggested that this was a launch pad, with another one being in Lebanon that fell into ruin after an anunaki war the stones on that are over 1200 TONS...! It is truly impossible that around 4500 BC Humans could have laid those stones. He also makes claim to the anunaki using Mars as a way point, look at those spirals on the surface of Mars and tell me that the universe creates two dimensional spirals with ONE line, NO FUCKING WAY they are universal creations they are with no shadow of a doubt intelligent design. Get used to it folks we are slaves as I have highlighted a number of times we were created to mine gold for the anunaki. Regards Jules |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5248308 United States 05/10/2012 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sitchin's work doesn't rely on a brown-dwarf. Zecharia Sitchin posits the rogue-planet theory. Quoting: Mordier L'eft No, he does not. Rogue planet does not mean a planet with a 3600 year orbit, it means a planet which does not orbit any star. It has nothing to do with the "Nibiru" claims, and I don't care who it comes from. Psssst... it is 3660 years and it is due NOW. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1412768 United States 05/10/2012 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you would have an "open mind" you wouldn't be writing 'No, it doesn't. Nibiru doesn't exist'. Quoting: artMan I already tested the Nibiru claim and found it to be false. I had an open mind, the claim was wrong. It's that simple. Besides, it's a claim from your side, and you cannot prove it, Quoting: artAlready proved it. and because there isn't a way for you to prove it, AC 12254902 didn't need to wait for your response. Quoting: ArtNo, I did prove it, AC had a closed mind for assuming, like you, that there was no way to prove it. I, unlike you, have an open mind. I put the other side's claims to the test. You are both incredibly close minded, which is why you will never escape your own ignorance. |
Mordier L'eft User ID: 13691144 Canada 05/10/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then post his astrometric measurements, timings, and the resulting calculated orbital elements. because i don't feel like reading and typing out an entire 30+ page chapter. go do some reading, i told you which book to read. The information I requested does not require typing out a 30 page chapter. Post his astrometric readings, timings, and the resulting calculated orbital elements. It's not hard. You won't do it because it doesn't exist. of course it doesn't. that's why i told you where to find it. --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1412768 United States 05/10/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sitchin's work doesn't rely on a brown-dwarf. Zecharia Sitchin posits the rogue-planet theory. Quoting: Mordier L'eft No, he does not. Rogue planet does not mean a planet with a 3600 year orbit, it means a planet which does not orbit any star. It has nothing to do with the "Nibiru" claims, and I don't care who it comes from. Psssst... it is 3660 years and it is due NOW. Pssst... there's no massive planet anywhere near our inner solar system. Nibiru is false, even "planet X" is false and that was only supposed to have 4x earth's mass and not even come past pluto! Thread: Robert Harrington's Planet X Does Not Exist |
Dark Match Jones User ID: 15845303 United States 05/10/2012 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :cwuncle1: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." |
Mordier L'eft User ID: 13691144 Canada 05/10/2012 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut Then post his astrometric measurements, timings, and the resulting calculated orbital elements. because i don't feel like reading and typing out an entire 30+ page chapter. go do some reading, i told you which book to read. The information I requested does not require typing out a 30 page chapter. Post his astrometric readings, timings, and the resulting calculated orbital elements. It's not hard. You won't do it because it doesn't exist. of course it doesn't. that's why i told you where to find it. why should i do the work for you? you declare WE should get out our star charts and do all the work you've supposedly done already. well, do the same. go do some reading. Last Edited by Mordier L'eft on 05/10/2012 06:03 PM --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |