Does an atheist have faith?

of course
i have faith in the good in peoples hearts
it was only bombed by the style of another

(copycats.. be it religion or any other script explaining their realities, people see and do the same, skipping implications of their influence, just like their "archetypes" they liked..selected for realief)

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I am not atheist nor christian but I agree with this philosophy.

the basics

I have faith that the human race will realize that this need for religion and false hope is not needed and that we can pull our civilization together, together.

I suppose an atheist could have faith as long as they pay her and avoid a scandal.

The opposite of faith is truth (by definition) so what does that tell you about faith?

Actually the opposite of faith is disbelief.

So, do you deny something exists outside of our personified understanding of truth?

the fact you have to ask this shows youve never spoken to one, at least a intelligent one.

well i had an argument with an a very intelligent athiest. Thats what brought this question around. I asked the previous question so that i could eliminate assumption.

Truth cannot be accepted or denied it just is, its the truth, If there is a god its the truth, if thers a book that says there is god that is just a book, if god came down and touched you thats truth, if you had a vivid dream and hallucinated god that is just a dream. Yes everything can be percieved as truth from 1 perspective or another but truth is truth, it can change with new information and perspective. Example you have a vision of god unknowing that your friend had sneaked a pill into your drink which made you hallucinate. Your truth is you saw god. But your friend created that truth.

And does an atheist believe the entire universe is seen through only human eyes?

agreed. I ask questions because i enjoy the way a brain works

Birds can see, crocodiles can aswell. Whales dolphins reptiles, they see the universe or at least the planets point of view on the universe what are you getting at

So, do you deny smething exists outside of our personifiedunderstanding of truth?

Nobody knows, no amount of faith makes something true. I personally believe that there is a conciousness that we all belong to butt that's my opinion and I would not wish to shove it down anyone else's throat. There may well be a god, but I doubt this god would be impressed by faith or religion.

you have a good point with the animals there. All i was getting at is that maybe our system of beliefs are wrong because we assume its the only point of view. But as you said other creatures see the world. I wish i know what their perception was. We need to understand the human race is a minority in the universe.. Mainly my point is always to get people thinking and see what they have to say. No matter where they are coming from.

I like this.

+1

I mentioned the animals because I knew what you were getting at, you could say God willing but I dont think that would suit this discussion. Anyways yes I think our system is wrong. I would 100% agree with tht, I would go so far as to say god was a normal person / persons from another planet and that our primitive anscestors misunderstood a helping hand for a master

i freakin love this little picture thing... and i agree with you. the definition of god is important here. Because if we are god then he does exist. and im not impressed by either faith or religion

Only God knows!

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By definition pure atheism puts " faith " into an axiom that cannot be proven . However there are several logical arguments and cosmological models for them to believe the universe was its own cause and or is infinite with reason.
Faith just mean belief . And they believe something that cannot be proven .

In the Kybalion, Hermes calls it "the all", a more modern slant is Bernard Heisch's "The God Theory", where the zero point field is identified as the source of everything and the purpose of everything being gods desire to experience everything through all of creation including us. Good reading...

Yes. God is whatever we choose to make him. But the trick is to go much further and realize that even our created god of choice is a part of a system. A system that is wove with existence and our universe. So therefore viewing it through our eyes is wrong from the git go. but we can continue on in our pursuit of understanding. It doesnt matter which religion is correct. Or if science knows it all. What matters is we question it, work together to come to conclusions and stop judging one another.

I wrote a really nice paragraph then my god damn windows update popped up making my pc almost reset closing my freaking browser. It was a sign that I should not post that paragraph.. Or maybe I should have reset instead of hittin postpone a while ago, what do you think, sign or coincidence?

See what I did there? I could easily have made the arguement it was god, but there was a ACTUAL reason that happened. If I was ignorant to the way windows update worked, which is every time you hit postpone or close it it pops back up 10 mins later, I would have thought it to be god, but because I know how it works I see the truth and now can continue.

If you look at the bible and think of god you will see a man with power. All the power this man has been given can be taken from our technology. We can heal revive and even travel(soon) the same way God could have if god was a man from another solar system. If you do not believe me, you should know, we can travel to other planets, It make take a while to actually get there but we can do it, we may run out of fuel food and air, but we can get there. Now give us the time it would take to reac a planet without a real warp drive(or whatever it would be called) we will have the technology to travel there with one. Now with that in mind, is it not possible that we can find a habitable planet with life and that if it were inferior to ours we would infact start a colony there or even share knowledge and resources? Is it not safe to say that we would have a council of people who would have to agree with certain rules about going there or living there? Is it not true that we would not experiment with their animals or at least abduct a few to see if we could eat and breed them? Would we not leave our mark?
Most of those were hypothetical but let me ask you this, Do you think that we have the technology to visit other worlds? If so you must believe that we could have been visited and that we are not alone correct?

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I don't believe in any religions or non religions. So honestly I'm not sure.

i believe and agree 100%. And further, We will be able to handle the situations much better than we handle things now. We will be better.

You know this whole time I thought you were religious? I thought you were arguing for christians / gods and werent on the other side xd

im on both sides