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SATAN...............79


July 12, 1984 "Dear children! These days Satan wants to frustrate 118

the temptations of Satan. Thank you for having responded to my 122

experiencing how Satan is working. I am always with you, and 126

August 11, 1984 (Saturday) "Dear children! Pray, because Satan 142

December 27, 1984 "Dear children! This Christmas Satan wanted in 284

discerned Satan even on Christmas day itself. But God is winning 286

January 14, 1985 (Monday) "My dear children! Satan is so strong 306

Satan discourage you. He is working hard in the world. Be on your 310

January 17, 1985 "Dear children! These days Satan is working 314

parish. Satan wants to work still more fiercely to take away your 322

February 7, 1985 "Dear children! These days Satan is manifesting 332

Satan ends up for the glory of God. I have stayed with you this 336

Himself in these days when Satan is at work. Thank you for having 442

adversities which Satan is trying to inflict on the Catholic 480

mantle I protect it from every work of Satan. Pray that Satan 502

mantle I protect it from every work of Satan. Pray that Satan 502

objects on their person. Bless all the objects and thus Satan 510

without sin. Satan has taken part of the plan and wants to 524
advance against Satan by means of prayer. Satan wants to work 530
advance against Satan by means of prayer. Satan wants to work 530
Especially since Satan wishes to take advantage of the yield of 550
your vineyards. Pray that Satan does not succeed in his plan. 550
prayers. Keep on praying all the more so that Satan will be far 554
everything is fulfilled the way He has planned it and that Satan 688
Satan to get control of your hearts, so you would be an image of 710
Satan and not of me. I call you to pray for how you might be 712
love. By love turn everything into good which Satan desires to 920
the desert, where Satan is lurking and wanting to tempt each one 926
every influence of Satan in your place. I am with you, but I 928
I am able to accomplish everything and force Satan not to be 958
children, Satan is lurking for each individual. Especially in 960
help you and drive Satan away from you. Therefore, I am calling 978
the deception that Satan makes use of. You pray that the truth 988
Satan wants to sift you through everyday affairs and in your life 1014
commit sin, and to put yourselves in the hand of Satan without 1182
God and against Satan. I am your Mother and, therefore, I want to 1184
to be holy. I do not want Satan to block you on that way. Dear 1202
children, Satan is strong and is waiting to test each one of you. 1224
for each individual. Pray that Satan does not entice you with his 1250
permit Satan to seduce you. Dear children, Satan is very strong 1286
permit Satan to seduce you. Dear children, Satan is very strong 1286
Therefore, dear children, do not be afraid. If you pray, Satan 1292
always be in your hand as a sign to Satan that you belong to me. 1294
surrender to God. Pray, little children, that Satan may not carry 1326
to God. Never cease praying so that Satan cannot take advantage 1334
think there is no way out and that Satan is in control. I am 1358
soul. Satan is strong and therefore, you, little children, by 1392
Satan, we may decide only for God. I am praying for you before 1514
children, pray and do not permit Satan to work in your life 1536
God, and do not allow Satan to come into your life through those 1546
conscious of it. I want to protect you from everything that Satan 1554
desire each one of you to dedicate more time to God. Satan is 1618
I am protecting you even though Satan wishes to destroy my plans 1622
in the world. Satan is strong and with all his strength, desires 1628
for you before God. Pray, because Satan wants to destroy my plans 1652
Satan is strong and desires to destroy not only human life, but 1660
realized. Satan is strong and wants to sweep away my plans of 1734
before Satan wants to show the world his shameful face by which 1748
to help you and to protect you from every attack of Satan. I am 1806
Therefore, here is what I say to you: Satan is playing with you 1826
mine and that you belong to me, because Satan wishes in these 1836
which Satan wishes to destroy all that my Son Jesus and I are 1896
from the commandments that the Church calls you to live. Satan 1898
Satan is strong and wishes to make as many souls as possible his 1906
and peace in the whole world, because Satan wants war, wants lack 1966
protect your hearts from Satan and to bring you all closer to the 1998
want Satan to deceive you for He wants to lead you the wrong way, 2008
prayer you cannot be close to me. In these times Satan wants to 2070
defeat evil and protect all that Satan wants to destroy in your 2082
Pray, little children, in a special way, because Satan is strong 2138
you do not want and in this way, Satan is tempting you, and in 2200
come close to my Immaculate Heart. Satan is strong and with all 2218
first place in your life. Do not let Satan attract you through 2316
children, do not permit Satan to pull you apart and to do with 2558
Satan provokes quarrels and unrest. I am with you and I lead you 2740
you to prayer, especially today when Satan wants war and hatred. 2964
novenas of fasting and renunciation so that Satan be far from you 3420
and to inspire others to be better and holier; but Satan, too, 4234
desire of you? Do not permit Satan to open the paths of earthly 4294
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the messages of the medjugorje apparition go against catholic dogma

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Holy Spirit gains prominence in messagesBy Jakob Marschner on Oct 3, 2012

After only one mentioning in 2005-10, the Virgin Mary has talked about the Holy Spirit nine times to visionary Mirjana Soldo in 2011-12. “What is to come requires the full presence of the Holy Spirit” and “Heaven is ready to give the graces of the Holy Spirit now” Medjugorje experts explain.


The universal symbol of the Holy Spirit is a dove
When the Virgin Mary’s message to Medjugorje visionary Mirjana Dragicevic-Soldo on Tuesday made mention of the Holy Spirit, it was the ninth such mention in 24 messages given to Mirjana this year and last year.

In comparison, the Holy Spirit was mentioned only once in Mirjana’s messages from these became regular in 2005 until 2010, message research conducted by Crown of Stars editor Bernard Gallagher reveals.


Mirjana during her apparition on October 2
Long-time followers of the apparitions and messages of Medjugorje believe the trend is meaningful and worthy of notice, they tell Medjugorje Today.

“I feel the Holy Spirit is being credited a little more often at this time due to the length of time the apparitions have occured. Does the mention of the Holy Spirit add anything new to the messages received by Mirjana? I do not think it does in a direct way” best-selling author Wayne Weible sets out.


Wayne Weible
“However, in these times with so many abnormalities in nature, it is more of an acknowledgment of the presence of God on earth as Jesus predicted in Holy Scripture. The very act of an apparition is evidence of the Holy Spirit. What is to come requires His full presence, and we are seeing the rumblings of what is to come when the secrets actually begin to occur” Weible tells Medjugorje Today.

MaryTV message commentator Cathy Nolan’s reply springs from the Virgin Mary’s actual message given to Mirjana on October 2:
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It is my feeling that some apparitions of Our Lady are not Our Lady, but rather, physical manifestation of The Holy Spirit, who is the comforter/feminine aspect of God, veiled. The Shekinah. There is a reason She is veiled, there is a reason She/It does not reveal itself in actual form, just as the Father was seen in a burning bush, She/It is represented sometimes as a dove, or tongues of fire.

In my thought, Mary is to be revered, but never worshiped. She seeks to bring children back to her Son, Jesus Christ. If an apparition comes and leads or requests that we are brought back to her Son, to God, then I do not see how it is coming from a false place. She can be prayed to only as a request for intercession on our behalf with her Son, miracles that come through her would be her Son's work, not her own. She is mediatrix of graces given by her Son. She is blessed, and cares very much, but I believe pondering the Godhead to understand how The Holy Spirit works.

Whore of Babylon in my thought does not equal Mary, Whore of Babylon is Lilith, the dark side of the Shekinah which split and dwells with Samael.

Just some thoughts.

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Mary's dead... she can't communicate with us. The things you're seeing and hearing are demons! THEY can communicate with us if we allow them to and these so called "messages" from Mary, who's in her grave waiting for Jesus to come like everyone else, is just going to lead you into further deception.
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A While Longer

The End of Fatima

I will take Francisco and Jacinta [to Heaven] soon, but you must remain a while longer. Jesus wishes to use you to make me better known and loved. - Our Lady of Fatima to Lucia, 13 June 1917


Starting with Fatima in 1917 and continuing with Medjugorje today, Blessed Mary has been appearing throughout the twentieth century to guide us through these tumultuous times

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Number 1... Mary can't take ANYONE to heaven! That belongs to God and Jesus alone, to resurrect. Secondly, Mary isn't appearing anywhere because she's dead, in her grave awaiting the resurrection of life with all the others who are there waiting for Jesus to come. Mary doesn't guide us anywhere, only God through the holy spirit does. Stop believing these lies from satan or you will be deceived beyond return at the end of time.
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A While Longer

The End of Fatima

I will take Francisco and Jacinta [to Heaven] soon, but you must remain a while longer. Jesus wishes to use you to make me better known and loved. - Our Lady of Fatima to Lucia, 13 June 1917


Starting with Fatima in 1917 and continuing with Medjugorje today, Blessed Mary has been appearing throughout the twentieth century to guide us through these tumultuous times

..........................
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Number 1... Mary can't take ANYONE to heaven! That belongs to God and Jesus alone, to resurrect. Secondly, Mary isn't appearing anywhere because she's dead, in her grave awaiting the resurrection of life with all the others who are there waiting for Jesus to come. Mary doesn't guide us anywhere, only God through the holy spirit does. Stop believing these lies from satan or you will be deceived beyond return at the end of time.
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Well can you tell me what you think about the things mentioned in this video about the guadalupe apparition?


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Global Revolution!
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Mary's dead, in her grave awaiting the resurrection, not appearing anywhere talking to anyone. Stop believing the lies!
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Jesus speaks ...Are the Medjugorje secrets rapidly unfolding?

By Stephen Ryan

The Medjugorje visionaries say they can not reveal the secrets because ..well secrets are secrets but now that Jesus has spoken for the first time, after 31 years of messages from the Virgin Mary, it is a good time to recall Our Lady's messages that contained actual mentions of "time and place"

There have been very few revelations from Medjugorje that include "time and place", and because there are so few actual specifics from Medjugorje, it is important to focus on those precious few words. They provide hints about the ten secrets and the fuuture of the world.

On August 25 1991, Our Lady said Medjugorje is the fulfillment of Fatima - Here She mentions a specific place - Fatima.
Our Lady also said "Russia will come to glorify God the most, the west has made civilization progress and act as if they are their own creator." Here Our Lady not only mentions a "place" - Russia - but also a "time" - Our Lady speaks of the future by saying Russia "will come to glorify God" in the future.

It is important to understand that "Fatima applies to Russia. Fatima and Russia are one." this comes from Bishop Hnlinca the great friend of Medjugorje and JPII. [link to www.christendom-awake.org] ... nilica.htm
Today in the news is a great article called "The Anti-Christian Age" at [link to catholicexchange.com] ... stian-age/ This is a very good summary of the state of Christianity in the west.

In contrast, Russia is the midst of a surprising religious awakening. The west views the new development of the Russian government's close ties to the Orthodox Church with distrust and trepidation. It is a well known fact that Russia venerates the Blessed Mother. Years ago Marija said Russians love Mary from the heart while too many in the West look for signs and wonders (Fr. Laurentine)

Nobody, other than the Blessed Mother, foresaw the rise of religion in Russia as the west turned away from God, so many years ago.

The secrets are unfolding - look to how the west deals with Russia. If the west demonizes Russia's religious values then you will see how the secrets will unfold.

These are topics I discuss in great detail in my upcoming book.
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Medjugorje....Commentators: Message is a Major Sign

By Jakob Marschner on Dec 26, 2012

The Christ Child speaking instead of Mary on Christmas Day signifies major changes around the apparitions, and may even herald the end of the Virgin Mary’s messages, commentators agree. The Christ Child’s message echoes Jesus’ farewell discourse to the disciples in Gospel of John 13-14.


The scene that Medjugorje visionary Marija Pavlovic-Lunetti saw on Christmas Day, the Christ Child standing up on the Virgin Mary’s lap – depicted by Vladimir Borovikovsky in “A Vision of the Mother of God with the Christ Child among the Angels” (1823)
Experienced Medjugorje commentators agree that the unprecedented event on Christmas Day, the Christ Child speaking instead of the Virgin Mary, is a big and most significant development, a harbinger of major changes being underway.

“My personal feeling is that this change heralds the approach of the end of Our Lady’s messages as we have been used to all these years. We may be about to enter a new phase of the Medjugorje phenomenon” a longtime follower of Medjugorje with the pen name “bluecross” comments on Medjugorje Live. His real name is known by Medjugorje Today.


The Christ Child’s words in the Christmas message from Medjugorje echoes Jesus’ farewell discourse to His disciples in John 13-14, depicted here in Duccio di Buoninsegna’s work “Maesta” (1308-11)
Over the years, a bluecross specialty has been locating the Bible passages that the Virgin Mary paraphrases in her Medjugorje messages. On Christmas Day, he soon tied the Christ Child’s surprising Medjugorje message “I am your peace, live My Commandments” to Jesus’ farewell discourse to His disciples in John 13-14:

“Jesus speaking in this way echoes His farewell discourse in John’s Gospel when he says: “Peace I bequeath to you, My own peace I give you, a peace the world cannot give, this is My gift to you. Do not let your hearts be troubled or afraid.” (John 14 : 27) Elsewhere in the discourse He says: “If you love Me, you will keep my Commandments” (John 14:15)” bluecross noted.




“The start of the discourse begins: “My little children, I shall not be with you much longer” (John 13 :33). In fact, the whole of the discourse can be viewed as a summary of all that Our Lady has been teaching us these past 31 years. (John 13 : 33-38, and chapters 14 to 17) bluecross added.

“Soon we expect an announcement from the Vatican on the Medjugorje phenomenon and I think this plus today’s major surprise will not be unconnected. That is just speculation on my part, but the surprise today’s message brings will make many ponder the reason why.”



Wayne Weible, the most popular author of books on Medjugorje since the 1980s, also ascribes great meaning to the unexpected way the Christmas message was given.

“I agree that it is a clear sign that Medjugorje’s first part is near completion. As to the meaning, yes, time is short. We have been given an extraordinary grace of nearly 32 years of direct teachings from Heaven. Jesus is definitely appealing directly to those of us who have accepted His grace, to pray with great intensity for those who have not yet discovered the love of God” Wayne Weible tells Medjugorje Today.

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Medjugorge is just an evil spirit,a jewish freemason deceiving people. And the people are falling for hook,line and sinker.
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January 25, 2001

"Dear children! Today I call you to renew prayer
and fasting with even greater enthusiasm until prayer becomes a
joy for you. Little children, the one who prays is not afraid of
the future and the one who fasts is not afraid of evil. Once
again, I repeat to you: only through prayer and fasting also wars
can be stopped – wars of your unbelief and fear for the future.
I
am with you and am teaching you little children: your peace and
hope are in God. That is why draw closer to God and put Him in
the first place in your life.

Thank you for having responded to
my call."
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Mary's dead, in her grave awaiting the resurrection, not appearing anywhere talking to anyone. Stop believing the lies!
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You are totally right! But thanks to Our Lady the Mother of God Mary will have to wait approximately one more day according to the Jews in Hollywood. The harps are apparently being shoved up George Bush's ass.
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the messages of the medjugorje apparition go against catholic dogma


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Then there is a good chance that Medjugorje is right!
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Fr. Robert Altier --healing ministry priest-- The Reality And Actions of Demons

Father Robert Altier - We need to speak about reality of the evil spirits. I thought it might be appropriate to explain that with a little bit more detail so that we would understand exactly what it is we are working against.
Cardinal Spirits
There are spirits that are broken up into different kinds of categories. There are, for instance, the spirits that are called “cardinal spirits”. Cardinal spirits are the ones that we get in because of repeated sin. If we do the same thing over and over and over again, we open ourselves up to allow the devil in. We do not become possessed by these things, but rather we are oppressed by them. And what we need to do is work them back out by changing the habits that we have and changing our vices into virtues.


Ministering Spirits
There are what are called “ministering spirits”. Ministering spirits are huge things from the higher order of angels. They are the ones that live within the wounds that are inflicted upon us from the time that we are quite young, when there are traumatic things that happen in our lives when we are young (before 12 years old). These are the great, big things that get wrapped around our personality, and because of that, they are very, very difficult to even be able to recognize or to get rid of. The problem with ministering spirits is, first of all, they are exceedingly intelligent, which is why they go after little children rather than adults because their arrogance will not allow them to do anything else. They try to hide behind the personality of the people. These are the ones that will cause pride, selfishness, anger, and also fear. So when we see these kinds of problems in our lives, these are things that are rooted deep, deep within ourselves. They are in the wounds that were inflicted when we were young, and the only way to be able to get rid of them is to get inside and be able to address the woundedness, to heal those wounds that are there through forgiveness, through working through the various things in prayer. Slowly, we will be able to push these things away.


Occult Spirits
There are also occult spirits. These are the things that get in through occult practices. They can be sent or they can be summoned. For instance, if we allow ourselves to be involved in any kind of occult things: playing with a ouija board, going to a palm reader or to a psychic or somebody like that, getting ourselves into any kind of satanic thing. That is how we are going to get these occult spirits. But they can also be sent by somebody. That is, they can be sent along with a curse. They can be sent by someone who is in the occult, someone who does not like you very much, to cause you lots of problems. These are particularly vile creatures. Because they are occult spirits, they are not very easy to get rid of because they are nasty and tenacious and they fight back, whereas the other ones we can push out. But these are going to cause lots of problems as we try to get rid of them.


Familial Spirits
Then there are other categories that still fit under these three general headings. There are familial spirits, which are within the family and get passed down; for instance, if there is someone who is in the Masons. The Masons are the lowest form of human life on the face of the earth. They are an occult religion, and they are the most despicable of human beings. In order to move up the ladder, they actually offer their children and their grandchildren and generations down the line in order for their own selfish ambitions to be met. So there are curses that are put upon the families and upon the children, and those get passed down from generation to generation.


Generational Spirits
There are others that are also generational spirits, familial spirits. One of these, for instance, is incest. That is a generational and familial spirit; it gets passed down from generation to generation. You see the same problems within the family that get passed along. We wonder how it is possible that this can happen generation after generation; it is because of the spirit that is there. There are familiar spirits. That is a different spirit that has a familiarity with you because it was already there and the wound is not necessarily fully healed, so it can come in because there is a woundedness that is already present for it. And there are retaliating spirits. There are all kinds of different ways that these things can get in, but it is just to understand what it is that we are working against.
When we think about the struggles that we have, Saint James tells us, for instance, that we have these wars within our members and so on, but the reality is that the war, as Saint Paul tells us, is not against flesh and blood; it is against the principalities and powers of darkness and the rulers of the high places. It is against Satan and his minions, and we need to be clear. We do have our own weaknesses because of our own sins, but the fact of the matter is it is not merely just our little human weakness – it is our human weakness being compounded by something which is a spiritual problem. And in order to deal with a spiritual problem, you have to deal with it in a spiritual way.



Our Battle Is Not Against Flesh And Blood
So again, it is a matter of how we are going to combat these things. Remember Jesus said, “This type (of demon) can only be gotten rid of by prayer and fasting.” If you really want to be able to make headway on some of these things, you need to pray, you need to take on some penances, and you need to face the things directly. It is all of these things. It is not just a matter of saying, “If I pray it will go away.” It is not just a matter of saying, “If I try to change my habits it will make a difference.” These things will help all by themselves; but if we really want to be able to get rid of the problems in our lives, it is going to require all three of these things: to pray, to do penance, and to work at making the changes that we need, because we have our part to do but it is still a matter of recognizing where the trouble is coming from. Not merely just within our own selves and within our own weaknesses, but by the spirits that are there.



Three Levels Of Spirits
There are also three levels of these things. There are oppressive spirits. Those are the ones that all of us deal with. They are the things that are there causing us the trouble. There are obsessive spirits. That is where a person gets obsessed with occult things. And then there are possessive spirits. That is when a person opens himself up to actually be taken over, to become possessed. That is the one that is very, very rare. We have to understand that just because someone is dealing with spiritual things, which all of us are, it does not mean they are possessed. In fact, it is very rare that someone would be possessed.
I make these distinctions for you simply so you can understand why we struggle the way that we do in our spiritual lives, what it is that we are fighting against, and to help us understand that just because we are struggling against the devil and his minions does not mean that we are possessed and it does not mean that we have given ourselves over to Satan. Some of the things we are completely innocent of: the generational things, the ministering spirits, and so on. The fact is they are still there, and so we have to do our part to work against them. Look seriously at what is going on within your own heart and soul, and make
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A MAJOR CHANGE AT MEDJUGORJE

BY WAYNE WEIBLE

The routine for the monthly message given through visionary Marija has changed little in the past 31-plus years. The Blessed Virgin appears, offers the usual greeting of ‘Praise be to Jesus”, and then gives another profound message meant for all of her children.

There have been a few exceptions to this script. The most notable was when Father Slavko died on November 24, 2000; the message the next day, November 25th, ended with an extraordinary salute to the charismatic priest who served so valiantly at the site. Our Lady said, “today, your brother Slavko has been reborn into heaven and intercedes for you.”

On this Christmas day, there was another change—even more dramatic.

Usually on Christmas, the Virgin appears in a beautiful gown of white with gold trim and is holding the infant Jesus. She then gives the message. On this day, she again came in the beautiful dress and again with the infant Jesus in her arms—but she did not give a message. In a startling change, the newborn Christ child spoke.

Imagine a newborn child speaking as an adult. Comprehend, if you will, the meaning of His few but powerful words. This is what our baby Jesus said:

“I am your peace; live My Commandments.”

Afterwards, Marija said that Our Lady and little Jesus blessed us.

So, what are we to make of this shocking revelation? Is it a marked change in the apparitions? One experienced commentator, known only as “Bluecross” at his personal request, had this to say: “My personal feeling is that this change heralds the approach of the end of Our Lady’s messages as we have been used to all these years. We may be about to enter a new phase of the Medjugorje phenomenon.”

The same internet organization, medjugorjetoday.tv, who published the comments from Bluecross asked me to comment on what I thought the message meant, if anything out of the ordinary. This is what I said: “I agree that it is a clear sign that Medjugorje’s first part is near completion. As to the meaning, yes, time is short. We have been given an extraordinary grace of nearly 32 years of direct teachings from Heaven. Jesus is definitely appealing directly to those of us who have accepted His grace, to pray with great intensity for those who have not yet discovered the love of God.”

This is my belief. This is what my new book, Medjugorje: The Last Apparition focuses on throughout its 259 pages. Medjugorje is composed of two major parts: the active apparitions and the start of the ten secrets and its aftermath. The fact that we have been given all of this time to convert is pure grace from God.

Over the years, our unidentified Bluecross has shown a specialty at locating the Bible passages that the Virgin paraphrases in her Medjugorje messages. On Christmas Day, he soon tied the Christ Child’s surprising Medjugorje message “I am your peace, live My Commandments” to Jesus’ farewell discourse to His disciples (John 13-14). He states, “Jesus speaking in this way echoes His farewell discourse in John’s Gospel when he says: “Peace I bequeath to you, My own peace I give you, a peace the world cannot give, this is My gift to you. Do not let your hearts be troubled or afraid.” (John 14 : 27) Elsewhere in the discourse He says: ‘If you love Me, you will keep my Commandments’ (John 14:15)”

Read these passages of Scripture several times. You will understand what Bluecross is saying through these quotations. He continued: “The start of the discourse begins: “My little children, I shall not be with you much longer” (John 13 :33). In fact, the whole of the discourse can be viewed as a summary of all that Our Lady has been teaching us these past 31 years. (John 13 : 33-38, and chapters 14 to 17).

Somewhere in the coming months, the Vatican Commission formed to investigate the apparitions will make a formal announcement on its findings. In all probability they will likely state that the apparitions cannot be declared supernatural; nor can they be declared non-supernatural. In other words, the situation is the same as it has been since the 1993 ruling from the former Yugoslavia Bishop’s Conference.

However, precedence has already been broken many times concerning these incredible apparitions. It is not totally ruled out that a positive, unprecedented ruling declaring them to be supernatural could be made, even while they continue to occur.

In the long run, whether a positive or negative declaration is made concerning the apparitions, the major message for all of us is to repent, to convert and to live as a child of God.

May the love, peace and grace of Jesus be with each of us.
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Utterly satanic. The thought of this demon masquerading as Mary makes me shudder. Compare the medjugorge teachings vs the word of God.

Medjugorge apparition:
"God presides over all religions as a king controls his subjects, through his priests and ministers."

Word of God:
"And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

1 Cor.
"19What do I mean then? That a thing sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons. 21You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. "

Through this and many other statements the apparition has identified itself to be of satan. Stay away.
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It has identified itself to be of Satan, but only to those who know and believe in the word of God.
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Utterly satanic. The thought of this demon masquerading as Mary makes me shudder. Compare the medjugorge teachings vs the word of God.

Medjugorge apparition:
"God presides over all religions as a king controls his subjects, through his priests and ministers."

Word of God:
"And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

1 Cor.
"19What do I mean then? That a thing sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons. 21You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. "

Through this and many other statements the apparition has identified itself to be of satan. Stay away.
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It has identified itself to be of Satan, but only to those who know and believe in the word of God.
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How is that?
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Utterly satanic. The thought of this demon masquerading as Mary makes me shudder. Compare the medjugorge teachings vs the word of God.

Medjugorge apparition:
"God presides over all religions as a king controls his subjects, through his priests and ministers."

Word of God:
"And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

1 Cor.
"19What do I mean then? That a thing sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons. 21You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. "

Through this and many other statements the apparition has identified itself to be of satan. Stay away.
 Quoting: SevenThunders


It has identified itself to be of Satan, but only to those who know and believe in the word of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31747852


How is that?
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(A statement from the Apparition:)

"Tell this priest, tell everyone, that it is you who are divided on earth. The Muslims and the Orthodox, for the same reason as the Catholics, are EQUAL before my Son and me. You are all my children. Certainly, all religions are not equal, but all men are equal before God... Those who are not Catholic are no less creatures made in the image of God, and destined to rejoin someday the House of the Father." (Page 85-86, The Final Harvest, Weible)
Mark 16:15: And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16. "He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. NKJV
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(A statement from the Apparition:)

"Tell this priest, tell everyone, that it is you who are divided on earth. The Muslims and the Orthodox, for the same reason as the Catholics, are EQUAL before my Son and me. You are all my children. Certainly, all religions are not equal, but all men are equal before God... Those who are not Catholic are no less creatures made in the image of God, and destined to rejoin someday the House of the Father." (Page 85-86, The Final Harvest, Weible)
There the aparition lies as it says Muslims who do not believe in the son of God are equal with Christians who do believe that Jesus is the son of God. Equal in the fact that they are human beings and can still be saved of course. But in order to do so they will need to become Christian and believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God. As the Bible clearly states.
1 John 5:10: He who believes in the Son of God has the witness in himself; he who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed the testimony that God has given of His Son. 11. And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. NKJV
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DRAMATIC MESSAGE FROM REPUTED APPARITION BRINGS UP CRUCIAL ISSUE OF WHAT CHRIST'S 'COMMANDMENTS' ARE



It is not an inconsequential development.

Since January 25, 1987, a seer at the apparition site of Medjugorje allegedly has been receiving a message meant for the world from the Blessed Mother on the twenty-fifth of each month, which tallies, over the course of twenty-six years, to more than three hundred of them. The twenty-fifth of this month -- January (1/25/13) -- will bring what may be the most anticipated one in the history of the monthly or any messages. The reason: for the first time since the apparitions started -- in 1981 -- the monthly message, on December 25, 2012, as officially reported by the local parish, was delivered not by Mary but by the Infant Jesus.

Each Christmas He is seen on the Virgin's lap. But this time, allegedly, He spoke to stunned visionary Marija Pavlovic.

What He reportedly said was as succinct as it was authoritative, powerful, and meaningful. "I am your peace," Marija quoted Him as saying (after He stood on Mary's lap). "Live My commandments." Seven words with vast implications, operating in accordance with Scripture on various levels -- and summarizing more than three decades of apparitions.

Medjugorje, situated near the city of Mostar in the interior of Hercegovina, formerly part of Communist Yugoslavia, has been under study for two years by a special Vatican commission that is expected to hand the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith a view of the events in coming months. The committee may recommend a number of ways, the three most often cited: that the apparitions be viewed by the official Church authentic; that Medjugorje should be instituted as a shrine due to its fruits but that its supernaturality not be definitively declared authentic; or that the apparitions be rejected out of hand. The second scenario is widely viewed as the likeliest, but no one outside of the committee has a solid indication of where it is headed. Pilgrims are currently allowed by the Vatican to go there, and have been, in record numbers. If and when the Church rules or issues a statement (no one is even sure if the Pope will publicly respond to whatever the commission reports to him), we will abide by its guidance.

Until then, we are free to contemplate that powerful message.

And it brings us to the crucial question:

What did the Infant mean by His "commandments"?

Here, many turn to the Book of John, particularly chapters 13 through 17, wherein Jesus, at the Last Supper, states to His disciples, in the most direct reference: "I give you a new commandment: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. If you have love for one another, then everyone will know that you are My disciples."

The word "commandment" is found in at least sixty-three places in the New Testament. One can study every passage, particularly the Sermon on the Mount.

But it comes down most powerfully to what Jesus said in John and also in Matthew 22:36-39, which cites a Pharisee interrogating the Lord and His response: “'Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?' And He said to him, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the greatest and foremost commandment. The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’"

In these passages, He warned against neglecting the commandment of God in favor of upholding the traditions of men.

They are points that we must earnestly -- and perhaps urgently -- remember in this time of preparation. The Lord gave the commandments in relation to entry into the afterlife. "Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God," states Corinthians 7:19.

Some have noted that in John, Christ says, "My children, I shall not be with you very much longer" and discusses the true peace that He gives (as opposed to the peace of the world). "Peace is what I leave with you; it is My own peace that I give you." “The start of the discourse begins: 'My little children, I shall not be with you much longer' (John 13 :33)," notes one observer. "In fact, the whole of the discourse can be viewed as a summary of all that Our Lady has been teaching us these past 31 years." Indeed, His way of addressing the disciples (My children) is similar to how Mary has almost always begun those monthly missives (Dear children).

Other of His commandments are scattered throughout the New Testament, particularly in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7), and include humility, forgiveness, turning the other cheek, helping the poor, purity of heart, forsaking anger, and importantly, remaining away from the seduction of wealth -- things many who call themselves Christian but have fallen into the trap of worldliness often forget.

In this time of preparation, it is crucial that we all reconsider our lives in the Light of His commandments -- plus those given in the Old Testament.

Let us also note 1 Timothy 6:

"If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions, and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. But godliness actually is a means of great gain when accompanied by contentment. For we have brought nothing into the world, so we cannot take anything out of it either. If we have food and covering, with these we shall be content. But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

"But flee from these things, you man of God, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, perseverance and gentleness."

[resources: Tower of Light and Queen of peace DVD]

[also: Michael Brown pilgrimage, Medjugorje]

[see also: The Pope's Christmas message ties into May's appearance and Marija comments on unusual words from Jesus]

[Photo at top courtesy of Robert Falcetti]


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[Further note, as put together by a Christian named Samuel Mills, here is a list of what else could be considered as Christ's commandments from the four Gospels:

1. "When you stand praying, forgive"

2. "Remain in Me and I will remain in you"

3. "Let your light shine before men"

4. "Settle matters quickly with your adversary"

5. "Get rid of whatever causes you to sin"

6. "Do Not Swear at All"

7. "Do Not Resist an Evil Person" (Turning the other cheek.)

8. "Giving More than is Demanded" (Going the extra mile)

9. "Love Your Enemies"

10. "Give to Please God, Not to be Seen"

11. "Pray Privately, Not to be Seen of Men"

12. "This, then, is how you should pray"

13. "Fast Without Fanfare"

14. "Do not Store up Treasures on Earth"

15. "Do not Worry about Your Needs"

16. "Do not Worry about Tomorrow"

17. "Place God First"

16. "Do not Judge"

17. "Guard what is Sacred"

18. "Ask, Seek, and Knock"

19. "Care for Those in Distress"

20. "Enter Through the Narrow Gate"

21. "Watch out for false prophets"

22. "Exercise Spiritual Power"

23. "Do not Despise Childlike Believers"

24. "Do not Exalt Yourself"

25. "Settle Disputes Between Believers in this Manner..."

26. "Do not Oppose Other Christian Groups"

27. "Have Complete Faith in God"

28. "Do as the Good Samaritan Did"

29. "Love One Another" (This commandment summarizes all the others.)

30. "Do this in Remembrance of Me"

31. "You Should also Wash One Another's Feet"

32. "Be Merciful"

33. "Go and Make Disciples of All Nations, Baptizing Them"

34. "Obey What I Command"

35. "You Must be Ready"]
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Utterly satanic. The thought of this demon masquerading as Mary makes me shudder. Compare the medjugorge teachings vs the word of God.

Medjugorge apparition:
"God presides over all religions as a king controls his subjects, through his priests and ministers."

Word of God:
"And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

1 Cor.
"19What do I mean then? That a thing sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons. 21You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. "

Through this and many other statements the apparition has identified itself to be of satan. Stay away.
 Quoting: SevenThunders


It has identified itself to be of Satan, but only to those who know and believe in the word of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31747852

you are insane/ i am serious. No one is sacraficing to demons.
Live and let live, for we all have our own lessons to learn.
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Mary is dead and in her grave waiting for Jesus to come like all the others resting in Jesus. May doesn't communicate with us and if she did the last thing she would recommend is the mass which is an abomination to God! Stop worshipping the created and worship the creator instead!
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sounds like doom is near!
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MEDJUGORJE's GREAT PROPHCEY

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MEDJUGORJE's GREAT PROPHCEY

It has been said often that Medjugorje is the continuation and fulfilment of Fatima.
Fatima is viewed by Catholic intellectuals and Vatican experts as the most prophetic event in Catholic Church history since the days of Jesus Christ. So with this in mind it is important to examine how Medjugorje connects to Fatima from a prophetic perspective and it should be understood that the Virgin Mary at Medjugorje
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