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California Budget Tenuous Grip...

 
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Reporting from Sacramento — Gilbert Robles retired as a state parole agent at age 53, able to collect a $101,195 annual pension — 94% of his final salary. Last year, six months after he retired, the Arcadia resident accepted a political appointment with the same agency that pays an additional six figures.
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well, i guess Ah-Nold was in the hip-pocket of the
good-ol-boy-cronyism network after all. huh.
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Reporting from Sacramento — Gilbert Robles retired as a state parole agent at age 53, able to collect a $101,195 annual pension — 94% of his final salary. Last year, six months after he retired, the Arcadia resident accepted a political appointment with the same agency that pays an additional six figures.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4315279

well, i guess Ah-Nold was in the hip-pocket of the
good-ol-boy-cronyism network after all. huh.
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Ah-Nold was a RINO.....a PROGRESSIVE in Republican clothing.
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CA budget deficit problems, yet they have plenty of money to spend on building new caSINo's and the highway infrastructure to support them? Get a life.
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Maybe they spend money on infrastructure but they certainly spend no money on repairing roads. I reluctantly moved out of CA almost three years ago. I thought I wanted to move back but after my recent visit, I changed my mind. Absolute worst road quality in the country.
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Reporting from Sacramento — Gilbert Robles retired as a state parole agent at age 53, able to collect a $101,195 annual pension — 94% of his final salary. Last year, six months after he retired, the Arcadia resident accepted a political appointment with the same agency that pays an additional six figures.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4315279

well, i guess Ah-Nold was in the hip-pocket of the
good-ol-boy-cronyism network after all. huh.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


Ah-Nold was a RINO.....a PROGRESSIVE in Republican clothing.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer

he was a crook, just like all the rest of them.
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05/13/2012 10:56 AM
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So....


They get a bailout....BIG DEAL!
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Gov. Jerry Brown, disclosing the development in a video posted on YouTube, said that California’s shortfall was now projected to be $16 billion, up from $9.2 billion in January. Mr. Brown said that he would propose a revised budget on Monday to deal with it.

If you consider that many US states are as large as many European Nations, then through simple deduction you can extrapolate that the feces is about to collide with the rotating mechanical ventilation device.

Why?

Simple. The states have been out of money since 2008 and the federal government and the states have been playing a game with us. A game that most GLP people already recognize. The emperor isn't just naked, he is naked and lubed up!

16 billion dollar shortfall, and where is California going to make it up? And this is just for this year, what about next year?

Furthermore, California isn't the only state that is facing this austere future. At least seven other states are on the verge of bankruptcy.

You can only kick the can so long...:Skillet slap:
 Quoting: AmericanJedi


jedi i have read about 3 years back.it is happening now but let me ask you a question:

even if a state defaults,there is always federal govt it can borrow from.so what is the problem?
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Between illegals and their anchor babies, and high pensions of retired California state workers, they are screwed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15969440


I'm all for pension reform, but the ongoing attack on defined benefit pension plans is TPTB at their finest. DB pensions used to be the norm in the private sector until the big corporations realized they could make bigger profits by using 401Ks. So what if your employees end up old and poor, it's the bottom line that counts, right?

CA state employee pensions account for only about 6% of the annual state budget, hardly enough to break the bank. The big spending is from Education at 26%, Welfare at 11%, Protection (LE) at 12%, and Medicaid at 15%.

Over 70% of the total retirement dollars paid out to retirees is money generated from investments handled by the investment branch of CalPERS (California Public Employees Retirement System). CalPERS investments are currently funded at $232.1 Billion (with a B). That is investment money, not tax money.

State workers make less than comparable private sector workers but their benefits are better, that's the trade-off. Do you really want the people in charge of water safety, food safety, highways, medical licensing, nursing home licensing, fighting forest fires, earthquake safety of bridges and buildings, etc etc to be paid minimum wage? You want McDonald's employees in charge of bridges? hospitals? law enforcement? architectural building standards? Brilliant...
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Re: California Budget Tenuous Grip...
thank you mr Amiano
thank you all the buttfuckers for ruining the state
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Reporting from Sacramento — Gilbert Robles retired as a state parole agent at age 53, able to collect a $101,195 annual pension — 94% of his final salary. Last year, six months after he retired, the Arcadia resident accepted a political appointment with the same agency that pays an additional six figures.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4315279

well, i guess Ah-Nold was in the hip-pocket of the
good-ol-boy-cronyism network after all. huh.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


Ah-Nold was a RINO.....a PROGRESSIVE in Republican clothing.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer

he was a crook, just like all the rest of them.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


There is a difference....but you have yet to recognize it.
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well, i guess Ah-Nold was in the hip-pocket of the
good-ol-boy-cronyism network after all. huh.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


Ah-Nold was a RINO.....a PROGRESSIVE in Republican clothing.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer

he was a crook, just like all the rest of them.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


There is a difference....but you have yet to recognize it.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


o.k., Ah-Nold was a popular crook.
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Between illegals and their anchor babies, and high pensions of retired California state workers, they are screwed.
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the financial rapists managed to sidetrack you boys easily.
Have you any idea how much of the bailout money went offshore?
You piss about pennies while sacks of money go out the back door. Do your homework and find out who belongs to the pecker in your ass.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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Between illegals and their anchor babies, and high pensions of retired California state workers, they are screwed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15969440


I'm all for pension reform, but the ongoing attack on defined benefit pension plans is TPTB at their finest. DB pensions used to be the norm in the private sector until the big corporations realized they could make bigger profits by using 401Ks. So what if your employees end up old and poor, it's the bottom line that counts, right?

CA state employee pensions account for only about 6% of the annual state budget, hardly enough to break the bank. The big spending is from Education at 26%, Welfare at 11%, Protection (LE) at 12%, and Medicaid at 15%.

Over 70% of the total retirement dollars paid out to retirees is money generated from investments handled by the investment branch of CalPERS (California Public Employees Retirement System). CalPERS investments are currently funded at $232.1 Billion (with a B). That is investment money, not tax money.

State workers make less than comparable private sector workers but their benefits are better, that's the trade-off. Do you really want the people in charge of water safety, food safety, highways, medical licensing, nursing home licensing, fighting forest fires, earthquake safety of bridges and buildings, etc etc to be paid minimum wage? You want McDonald's employees in charge of bridges? hospitals? law enforcement? architectural building standards? Brilliant...
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^this^
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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Re: California Budget Tenuous Grip...
Wherever Liberals and Socialists are in control.....the place is running in the red.
State....county....town....whatever.

Watch....they will try and raise taxes to offset it in Cali....AGAIN.
...and then MORE businesses / residents will leave.


:mentdis:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Not to digress off topic, but I don't believe the problem is strictly liberalism. I am a social liberal, but a fiscal conservative. The problem is people that believe in big government, and in tax-funded "programs" to fix everything. They also don't believe in personal responsibility and accountability. Many "liberals" fit this description, but not all, because I know them. I have several liberal friends here in California that are anti-illegal immigration, and anti-taxation and big government. There is a particular kind of liberal mind-set... rabid environmentalist (agenda 21) pro-immigrant, pro-affirmative action, anti-gun etc. I argue with these people all the time, and they don't like what I say. I own guns, and don't like taxes. Sorry for getting off topic...just sayin'
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Re: California Budget Tenuous Grip...
Wherever Liberals and Socialists are in control.....the place is running in the red.
State....county....town....whatever.

Watch....they will try and raise taxes to offset it in Cali....AGAIN.
...and then MORE businesses / residents will leave.


:mentdis:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Not to digress off topic, but I don't believe the problem is strictly liberalism. I am a social liberal, but a fiscal conservative. The problem is people that believe in big government, and in tax-funded "programs" to fix everything. They also don't believe in personal responsibility and accountability. Many "liberals" fit this description, but not all, because I know them. I have several liberal friends here in California that are anti-illegal immigration, and anti-taxation and big government. There is a particular kind of liberal mind-set... rabid environmentalist (agenda 21) pro-immigrant, pro-affirmative action, anti-gun etc. I argue with these people all the time, and they don't like what I say. I own guns, and don't like taxes. Sorry for getting off topic...just sayin'
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just tell all of the rich people and corporations to
cough-up the money or get the fuck out of California.
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Think Detroit, but state wide.
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Yeah...going to be amusing to watch.....ain't it?
....7th largest economy in the WORLD....a failure from LIBERALISM.

:popcorn smiley: ura
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


ROMNEY'LL FIX IT!!!lmao
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Think Detroit, but state wide.
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Yeah...going to be amusing to watch.....ain't it?
....7th largest economy in the WORLD....a failure from LIBERALISM.

:popcorn smiley: ura
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


ROMNEY'LL FIX IT!!!lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14929070


it's not that LIBERALISM is a failure -- it's just that
the rich people and corporations refuse to do their part.
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bump
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Gov. Jerry Brown, disclosing the development in a video posted on YouTube, said that California’s shortfall was now projected to be $16 billion, up from $9.2 billion in January. Mr. Brown said that he would propose a revised budget on Monday to deal with it.

If you consider that many US states are as large as many European Nations, then through simple deduction you can extrapolate that the feces is about to collide with the rotating mechanical ventilation device.

Why?

Simple. The states have been out of money since 2008 and the federal government and the states have been playing a game with us. A game that most GLP people already recognize. The emperor isn't just naked, he is naked and lubed up!

16 billion dollar shortfall, and where is California going to make it up? And this is just for this year, what about next year?

Furthermore, California isn't the only state that is facing this austere future. At least seven other states are on the verge of bankruptcy.

You can only kick the can so long...:Skillet slap:
 Quoting: AmericanJedi



meg whitman would kick brown ass in the budget and getting things back where they needed and need to be!
brown is asking that the super rich donate and vote themselves to pay more taxes for like 7 years...and all pay more state taxes....good luck brown on getting your head out your ass...this is what happens when your a socialist state...dont cut the give-a-ways to illegals...just cut the schools and teachers...things that dont matter....maybe cops and firefighters too

hell a retired firefighter cpt. can get 250,000 a year in retirement....not equal to private jobs just way out of hand hell its tax payer money its ok....it so pays to be on the state or federal rip off program...just sit back don't work and get huge benefits...meg we need you!
we need socialst dems out of calif. who have run big business out...peelousy out brown out boxer...eww out
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Gov. Jerry Brown, disclosing the development in a video posted on YouTube, said that California’s shortfall was now projected to be $16 billion, up from $9.2 billion in January. Mr. Brown said that he would propose a revised budget on Monday to deal with it.

If you consider that many US states are as large as many European Nations, then through simple deduction you can extrapolate that the feces is about to collide with the rotating mechanical ventilation device.

Why?

Simple. The states have been out of money since 2008 and the federal government and the states have been playing a game with us. A game that most GLP people already recognize. The emperor isn't just naked, he is naked and lubed up!

16 billion dollar shortfall, and where is California going to make it up? And this is just for this year, what about next year?

Furthermore, California isn't the only state that is facing this austere future. At least seven other states are on the verge of bankruptcy.

You can only kick the can so long...:Skillet slap:
 Quoting: AmericanJedi



meg whitman would kick brown ass in the budget and getting things back where they needed and need to be!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993328


that's what they said about Ah-Nold.

wankers.
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So....


They get a bailout....BIG DEAL!
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LOL...what do you do? mop floors?
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Think Detroit, but state wide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14620252


Yeah...going to be amusing to watch.....ain't it?
....7th largest economy in the WORLD....a failure from LIBERALISM.

:popcorn smiley: ura
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


ROMNEY'LL FIX IT!!!lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14929070


it's not that LIBERALISM is a failure -- it's just that
the rich people and corporations refuse to do their part.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


although, i must admit that a major problem is that
"government" is doing a very poor job of effectively
re-distributing the wealth. but, the wealth must be re-distributed, nonetheless.
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many of us in California know we are screwed..I went to get a copy of my son's birth certificate last week. They moved the County recorders office. It was in a perfectly fine 10 story building downtown. They moved it a block away to a brand new marbel and glass building. Another 10 story building with a huge glass face and a beautiful water feature. Inside it was all marbel. Even the walls....We may be broke, but our officials do not really notice.
 Quoting: no-one-special


this is how it is in every state.

Marble halls and mahogony thrones for our "Servants" while we the PEOPLE are cutting back, eating rice and beans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5859380


Yeah in Jefferson county CO they built what locals call the Taj Mahal for the county gubmint.

and on the fed level the DHS HQ building in the District of Criminals cost at least 3 billion?

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Yeah...going to be amusing to watch.....ain't it?
....7th largest economy in the WORLD....a failure from LIBERALISM.

popcorn smiley ura
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


ROMNEY'LL FIX IT!!!lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14929070


it's not that LIBERALISM is a failure -- it's just that
the rich people and corporations refuse to do their part.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


although, i must admit that a major problem is that
"government" is doing a very poor job of effectively
re-distributing the wealth. but, the wealth must be re-distributed, nonetheless.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


government doesn't exist to "redistribute wealth", it exists to secure civil and property rights and on the national level defense from foreign invasion.
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ROMNEY'LL FIX IT!!!lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14929070


it's not that LIBERALISM is a failure -- it's just that
the rich people and corporations refuse to do their part.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


although, i must admit that a major problem is that
"government" is doing a very poor job of effectively
re-distributing the wealth. but, the wealth must be re-distributed, nonetheless.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


government doesn't exist to "redistribute wealth", it exists to secure civil and property rights and on the national level defense from foreign invasion.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


looks like you never got the memo.
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Between illegals and their anchor babies, and high pensions of retired California state workers, they are screwed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15969440


I'm all for pension reform, but the ongoing attack on defined benefit pension plans is TPTB at their finest. DB pensions used to be the norm in the private sector until the big corporations realized they could make bigger profits by using 401Ks. So what if your employees end up old and poor, it's the bottom line that counts, right?

CA state employee pensions account for only about 6% of the annual state budget, hardly enough to break the bank. The big spending is from Education at 26%, Welfare at 11%, Protection (LE) at 12%, and Medicaid at 15%.

Over 70% of the total retirement dollars paid out to retirees is money generated from investments handled by the investment branch of CalPERS (California Public Employees Retirement System). CalPERS investments are currently funded at $232.1 Billion (with a B). That is investment money, not tax money.

State workers make less than comparable private sector workers but their benefits are better, that's the trade-off. Do you really want the people in charge of water safety, food safety, highways, medical licensing, nursing home licensing, fighting forest fires, earthquake safety of bridges and buildings, etc etc to be paid minimum wage? You want McDonald's employees in charge of bridges? hospitals? law enforcement? architectural building standards? Brilliant...
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You are assuming that the government can do these things better than the private sector. Of course they can't.
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Between illegals and their anchor babies, and high pensions of retired California state workers, they are screwed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15969440


I'm all for pension reform, but the ongoing attack on defined benefit pension plans is TPTB at their finest. DB pensions used to be the norm in the private sector until the big corporations realized they could make bigger profits by using 401Ks. So what if your employees end up old and poor, it's the bottom line that counts, right?

CA state employee pensions account for only about 6% of the annual state budget, hardly enough to break the bank. The big spending is from Education at 26%, Welfare at 11%, Protection (LE) at 12%, and Medicaid at 15%.

Over 70% of the total retirement dollars paid out to retirees is money generated from investments handled by the investment branch of CalPERS (California Public Employees Retirement System). CalPERS investments are currently funded at $232.1 Billion (with a B). That is investment money, not tax money.

State workers make less than comparable private sector workers but their benefits are better, that's the trade-off. Do you really want the people in charge of water safety, food safety, highways, medical licensing, nursing home licensing, fighting forest fires, earthquake safety of bridges and buildings, etc etc to be paid minimum wage? You want McDonald's employees in charge of bridges? hospitals? law enforcement? architectural building standards? Brilliant...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13921708


You are assuming that the government can do these things better than the private sector. Of course they can't.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


hey, if i wanna hear this kind of crap, i can watch Fox News.
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Between illegals and their anchor babies, and high pensions of retired California state workers, they are screwed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15969440


I'm all for pension reform, but the ongoing attack on defined benefit pension plans is TPTB at their finest. DB pensions used to be the norm in the private sector until the big corporations realized they could make bigger profits by using 401Ks. So what if your employees end up old and poor, it's the bottom line that counts, right?

CA state employee pensions account for only about 6% of the annual state budget, hardly enough to break the bank. The big spending is from Education at 26%, Welfare at 11%, Protection (LE) at 12%, and Medicaid at 15%.

Over 70% of the total retirement dollars paid out to retirees is money generated from investments handled by the investment branch of CalPERS (California Public Employees Retirement System). CalPERS investments are currently funded at $232.1 Billion (with a B). That is investment money, not tax money.

State workers make less than comparable private sector workers but their benefits are better, that's the trade-off. Do you really want the people in charge of water safety, food safety, highways, medical licensing, nursing home licensing, fighting forest fires, earthquake safety of bridges and buildings, etc etc to be paid minimum wage? You want McDonald's employees in charge of bridges? hospitals? law enforcement? architectural building standards? Brilliant...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13921708


You are assuming that the government can do these things better than the private sector. Of course they can't.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Private sector may be smarter, swifter, more cost effective, but they do NOT have the public's interests in mind when making bottom-line decisions. For-profit corporations are for PROFIT.
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Between illegals and their anchor babies, and high pensions of retired California state workers, they are screwed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15969440


I'm all for pension reform, but the ongoing attack on defined benefit pension plans is TPTB at their finest. DB pensions used to be the norm in the private sector until the big corporations realized they could make bigger profits by using 401Ks. So what if your employees end up old and poor, it's the bottom line that counts, right?

CA state employee pensions account for only about 6% of the annual state budget, hardly enough to break the bank. The big spending is from Education at 26%, Welfare at 11%, Protection (LE) at 12%, and Medicaid at 15%.

Over 70% of the total retirement dollars paid out to retirees is money generated from investments handled by the investment branch of CalPERS (California Public Employees Retirement System). CalPERS investments are currently funded at $232.1 Billion (with a B). That is investment money, not tax money.

State workers make less than comparable private sector workers but their benefits are better, that's the trade-off. Do you really want the people in charge of water safety, food safety, highways, medical licensing, nursing home licensing, fighting forest fires, earthquake safety of bridges and buildings, etc etc to be paid minimum wage? You want McDonald's employees in charge of bridges? hospitals? law enforcement? architectural building standards? Brilliant...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13921708


You are assuming that the government can do these things better than the private sector. Of course they can't.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Private sector may be smarter, swifter, more cost effective, but they do NOT have the public's interests in mind when making bottom-line decisions. For-profit corporations are for PROFIT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13921708


and then they give 50% of their profits to the People,
and the government re-distributes it. (in services, etc.)
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Boots on the ground report ,ground zero : California. Let this sink in: In January it was short 9 billion now it is 16 billion. California government wants more $$$ and is pushing for huge tax increases via a November election.In 5 months they have nearly doubled the shortfall ! The economy is steady and there is no real reason to blame any of this mess on nothing more than over spending and a complete lack of responsible government.

In my county they are building a multi billion dollar "Justice Center". The county is around 50 thousand residents.
They are using our taxes to make the prison police state. Our roads are a complete joke,fire protection is lacking,schools suck. I pay over 3 grand a year in property taxes and get zero back in the way of services,ZERO.

Sacramento has no credibility and the people have no reason to give these drunken sailors another penny.The wealthy have many ways to dodge state taxes and are leaving in droves,some times just on paper,to other states and countries.If the tax scam is approved by the welfare queens,non working,illegal sanctuary cities California will be done,as done as a lump of coal.
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in California the people will have to vote to raise their taxes, the state can not just raise taxes, by a simple majority house vote... bad news for Jerry is that working people do not their taxes raised up... an will probably will vote down his tax scheme down... the cuts in services will begin...
 Quoting: anonibee 15921964


This Californian will not vote to cut her own throat. Brown was recalled and here that bastard is back again with his same failed policies.

There are lots of conservatives in this state, but our voices are drowned out by the Commies like Boxer, Feinstein, Pelosi and a gaggle of others that have seized control on every level of government.

I don't know of hardly anyone that works, everyone is on some kind of assistance and are doing whatever they can under the table. White people are now a novelty here, it's a sea of Mexicans.

Time to get the fuck out of this shithole and move to Belize.

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